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AGENDA
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, OCTOBER 20, 1980
COUNCIL CHAMBERS 7:30 P.M.
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CALL TO ORDER
Call to Order/Roll
ACTION ITEMS
#557 E. T. Mertz, 1820 Fox Street - FINAL SUBDIVISION (Resolution)
#545 Bruqe Hepp, 2605 West Lafayette Road - SUBDIVISION
#581 Richard Lorge, 2697 Casco Point Road - VARIANCE
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WORK SESSION
#586 Richard Speeter/James Henninger, 659 Minnetonka Highland Lane
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW
#587 Steven Valek, Tonkaview Lane - SUBDIVISION
APPROVAL OP MINUTES
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Meeting of October 6, 1980
INFORMATION
Joint Council/Planning Commission Meeting scheduled for 8:00 A.M. on
Saturday, October 25, 1980 at the Lafayette Club
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MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 20, 19S0
The Planning Commission met-on the above date.
The following members were present; Chairman
Hammerel, Frahm, Goetten, Jabbour, McDonald and
Rovegno. Mabusth represented the City staff.
ATTENDANCE
7:30 P.M.
The applicant was not present. Mabusth noted that
Council raised the issue of the guest house and
guestioned the applxcant as to its use. Council
advised the applicant of the requirement that no
payment or rent may be received for use of the
guest house. The final resolution noted that
condition.
Hammerel moved to recommend approval of the E. T.
Mertz subdivision subject to the findings and
conditions cited in the Staff resolution. Motion
seconded by McDonald. Vote: Ayes (6), Nays (0).
Motion passed uiianimously.
Mr. and Mrs. Bruce Hepp, Mr. Russell Baumgardner,
Mr. Thomas Lowe and Mr. John Hannah were present.
Planning Commission advised Kepp that his new plan
designating two riparian lots did not meet the
standards of the LR-IB zoning district. The lot
with the existing house does not meet the width
at the shoreline and the undeveloped lot does not
meet the width requirement along the building line.
Hepp asked the Commission for their input concerning
a property like his that has some 265' of shoreline
along Lafayette Bay and approximately another 140'
of shoreline along the lagoon. Staff advised the
Commission that the lagoon is not navigable and
functions more like a wetland. Rovegno questioned
if the ordinance distinguished between navigable
shoreline and non-navigable shoreline.
Council previously designated the subject lagoon as
part of Lake Minnetonka requiring a 75' setback.
Rovegno added that a wetlands would only require a
26* setback. He asked staff for some kind of guideline
to assist the Commission in making a determination
for applicant so he may proceed with an acceptable
plan.
E. T. MERTZ
1820 Fox Street
SUBDIVISION
(#557)
BRUCE HEPP
2605 West Lafayette Rd.
SUBDIVISION
(#545)
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Tom Lowe asked the applicant if he signed the
driveway easement serving the Hannah lot. Hepp
stated that he did not know, but that he would
check his records and report back to the Commission
if they required this type of information. Lowe
restated his concern that if Mr. Hepp required
any variances that the hardships be stated for the
record.
BRUCE HEPP
2605 West Lafayette Rd.
SUBDIVISION
(#545) Cont. /
Hammerel moved to table the application pending
staff resolving question of lagoon area being
credited as shoreline. Applicant will submit
new plan once determination is made. Motion
seconded by Jabbour. Vote: Ayes (6), Nays (0).
Motion passed unanimously.
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The following persons were present: Richard
Lorge, Mary Butler, Mr. and Mrs. Robert Hunt,
and Mr. and Mrs. A. L. Kane, future owners of
residence on Lot 4.
RICHARD LORGE
2697 Casco Point Rd.
VARIANCE
(#581)
Mabusth reviewed points raised at staff meeting
with Bruce Malkerson concerning the question of
common ownership. Commission is advised that
the standards set forth in Section 31.202 of
the Ordinance only applies to single separate
lots. Lots of common ownership are required to
meet full compliance with the standards of the
code. As to the question of ownership of Lot 4
and how we act on the common ownership question
if Mr. Lorge is no longer the owner of subject lot.
jEf the lots were in common ownership as of the
effective date of this ordinance, the applicant
is still legally responsible. Mabusth restated
again for the record that late last winter, she
advised the realtor for the property that a land
use application would be necessary because of the
common ownership question.
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Planning Commission reviewed the four previous
applications that staff was to report on for this
meeting. Two were subdivision applications on
Casco Point involving substandard lot widths. One,
an R.L.S. on Casco Circle was approved prior to
formal subdivision review procedures and the other
(Joe Braun), reviewed in 1978, was denied on the
basis of substandard lot width. The remaining
applications involved area and lot width variances.
One involved approval based on substandzird lots
being combined, the other (Watson) was approved on
the basis that lot was not physically maintained as
one and that lot was bought some ten years after
applicant purchased their homestead lot.
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Lorge again reviewed his position and added the
following comments:
1. If he were aware of the common ownership
ordinance in 1975, he could have placed ownership
in the name of another relative.
RICHARD LORGE
2697 Casco
VARIANCE
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2. The exclusion of common owr' !:i?hip lots from the
code and the setting of different istandards for
single separate lots is discriminating.
3. The code has no statutory protection for
preventing this kind of condition.
Mr. Lorge continued with a review of his plan of
action or priorities. He would prefer to offer the
lot at a lower price to the abutting property owners.
If Council deems the lot unbuildable, he loses all
bargaining power. If Council approves Lot 3 as
buildable, he would still prefer selling to the
abutting property owners.
Bob Hunt said that the subject property has been
in common ownership since 1942. Both lots have been
maintained as one yard. Yard light and switch are
located on Lot 3. Driveway, trees, in fact all
improvements suggest use as one yard.
A1 Kane, future owner of Lot 4, had the following
comments:
1. Drainage problem exists and he worries about
his investment if additional hardcover is added to
overburden drainage basin.
2. Bought Lot 4 assuming Lot 3 was not buildable.
3. Questions area quoted in recent surveys.
4. He would never agree to a shared driveway
situation with Lot 3.
Frahm moved to recommend approval of Richard Lorge's
lot width variance of 40' or 40%, lot area variance
of 10% and common ownership variance based on the
following findings:
1. Lot is 90% of required area.
2. Lots on both sides are occupied.
3. If Lot 3 were built or- it would be typical
of neighborhood development.
4. When purchased, applicant was informed Lot 3
was a separate lot - price was based on that
fact.
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5. Property taxed separately - never received
benefit of homestead relief.
6. New building site will nDt create; a new curb
cut.
7. A house comparable in size to those in existing
neighborhood could be located on lot meeting
all setback and hardcover standards - even if
additional 4' is required on left side yard.
8. Of some 24 homes in the Casco Point neighborhood
19 are 60' wide or less.
and subject to the following conditions:
1. No zoning variances will be granted with a
building permit.
2. Drainage and utility easements must be worked
out between the two parties.
3. Engineering study of drainage area roust accompany
building permit.
In addition, Planning Commission recommends that the
sections in the ordinance dealing with common ownership
be reviewed specifically to address the issue of
preventing misunderstandings of this type and establish
realistic standards in consideration of existing
neighborhood development patterns.
Motion seconded by Rovegno. Vote: Ayes (5), Nays (1)
Jabbour: "It is difficult for me to vote against
the motidn, but our code is too specific in the
case of common ownership. As a member of the
Planning Commission, I feel that-I should vote
against it as there have not been sever .1 examples
which have given us a substantial guideline. If
the Council sees it fit to grant the variance,
it would do so very easily and possibly set a
precedent to guide us with similar cases in the future."
Mr. Lorge asked that his application be scheduled for
the Council meeting of November 10, 1980 because of
business conflicts.
RICHARD LORGE
2697 Casco Point Road
VARIANCE
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James Henninger and Richard Speeter were present.
Mabusth reviewed need for the conditional use
permit. Applicants in the process of rip rapping
lagoon area that abutts their property removed a
culvert that permitted water to flow from main
lake. The culvert was always blocked and never
functioned properly. The culvert area is now Ln
open channel to the main lake allowing water to
flow freely.
Points to be reconciled by action meeting:
1. Did applicant lose access rights by
creating island?
2. Does this proposed bridge block navigable
water? -Lord Fletchers was made to take
down their bridge by the DNR.
3. Are there simularities in this application
to the Dunlap conditional use permit?
4. Is it environmentally advantageous to have
water flow freely through lagoon?
5. If culvert had to be replaced by Council
action, what will be the environmental
effects?
'Chairman Hammerel advised the applicants that
action would be taken on their conditional use
permit at the meeting of November 3, 1980. He
asked that a copy of the original DNR permit
allowing the dredging be submitted for the City
records.
Steven Valek was present. Applicant reviewed
his reason for changing from his original seven
lot plat to the present three lot plat. The
cost of bringing sewer service and construction
of a paved city road was too great. Mabusth
advised Valek that although lots exceed two acres
in area, lots must be sewered. City would allow
three lots to be sciviced by a graveled private
road.
SPEETER/HENNINGER j
659 Minnetonka Highlands
Lane COND. USE PERMIT i
WORK SESSION ?
(#586)
STEVEN VALEK
Tonkaview Lane
SUBDIVISION
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW
(#587)
Hammerel jnoved to approve the Minutes as submitted. APPROVAIj OF MINUTES
Motion seconded by McDonald. Vote; Ayes-(5) October 6, 1980
Nays (0). Jabbour did not vote as he did not
attend the last meeting. Motion passed unanimously.
Meeting adjourned ADJOURNMENT
9:40 P.M.