HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-03-1980 Planning MinutesAGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 3, 1980
COUNCIL CHAMBERS 7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
1. Call to Order/Roll
ACTION ITEMS
2. 7:00 P.M. - 8:00 P.M.
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Discussion of Proposed Accessory Structure Ordinance
Village Planner will attend meeting.
3. #497 William Wear, 2160 Wayzata Boulevard - VARIANCE
4. #537 David J. Butler, 4685 North Shore Drive - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
5. #540 Steven Tibbetts, 1998 Shadywood Road -> VARIANCE
WORK SESSION ^
6. #539 James Rivers, 1440 Shoreline Drive ~ REZONING’
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW
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7. #541 Ministers Life Development, 1484 Shoreline Drive - SUBDIVISION
I APPROVAL OF MINUTES
8. Meeting of February 19, 1980
INFORMATION ITEMS
9. Comprehensive Plan - Maple Plain
10. Planning Commission to determine how they wish to schedule
review of Orono's Comprehensive Plan with Gunnar Isberg
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f 11. Planning Commission to appoint two members to Marina Committee.
MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION I4EETING HELD ON MARCH 3, 1980
The Planning Commission met on the above date. Present
were the following members: Chairman Hammerel, Frahm,
Jabbour and Wilson. Hannah arrived at 7:40 P.M.
Mabusth and Olson represented the City staff.
Olson was present to discuss the Proposed Accessory
Structure Ordinance. He gave a brief explanation
of the necessity of amending this particular ordinance
and reviewed the questions posed by the members at
their February 19, 1980 meeting.
Some items discussed were as follows:
1.Some question regarding "lakeshore yard" - the
members had some concern that if a house was
placed further back from the lake than required,
they should still maintain the full use of their
yard (for a pool, tennis court, etc.). Maybe it
should be tied to the "average" setback. Also
a distinction should be made between accessory
structure and accessory building.
2.They were concerned with "cellar" or "basement"
wording - maybe the ordin2Uice should refer to
no occupancy of unfinished buildings.
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Questioned the requirement that a lot contain at
least twice the minimum area required for one
dwelling for a guest house. This could be covered
under the conditional use permit application and
the distance factor as pertaining to possible
future division could be addressed in each separate
application.
Olson will contact the planner, Gunnar Isberg, to
arrange a meeting with him and the Planning Commission
during the second week of April.
Mr. Wear was present. He presented his total signage
plan for the Orono Shopping Center. He neects a
variance in the height of the street sign of 8* and
a setback variance of 5* for the west side yard, as
well as a variance for exceeding the total signage
allowance.
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ATTENDANCE
7:00 P.M.
PROPOSED ACCESSORY
STRUCTURE ORDINANCE
ORONO COMPREHENSIVI
PLAN REVIEW
WILLIAM WEAR
2160 Wayzata Blvd.
VARIANCE
#497
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of the Planning Commission was
that the plan was appropriate for the center. Their
main feeling was that the lettering on the building
be consistent. Conceptually they approved the highway
gn noting that only external lighting can be used.
WILLIAM WEAR
2160 Wayzata Blvd.
n^ARIANCE
#497 (Cont.)
Frahm moved to recommend approval of the 8* height
variance and 5' setback variance for the highway sign
to a maximum of 96 sq. ft. vi no individual sign
exceeding 50 sq. ft. and a maxXmairt of four plaques;
and to allow signage on the building 12* x 2* per
business to be located within the top 3* of the building.
Thi be lighted externally - no flashing allowed.
The hardship noted are poor visibility from the east
and location of access drive.
Motion seconded by Jabbour. Vote; Ayes (5) , Nays (0) .
Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. and Mrs. Butler were present. Mabusth presented
pictures taken by staff showing the existing access.
Mr. and Mrs. Milliren, 1345 Rest Point Lane, were
present. Mr. Milliren's main concern was that any
grading or filling be kept to a minimum. Mr. Butler
was opposed to giving up his access on County Road
19 as he felt staff's suggested driveway would make
It impossible to turn around and also wanted to
retain his additional parking area on County Road 19
?? being used by his neighbor. He requested
that County Road 19 access be used only for ingress
and Rest Point Lane used for egress.
Hann^ moved to recommend approval of the Conditional
Use Permit due to the safety factors caused by the
topography of the lot for a circular fashioned entry
downhill to ingress off County Road 19 and egress to
Rest: Point Lane, based on the following findings:
1. To limit the amount of fill and grading. A newly
constructed driveway as suggested by staff to ingress
Rest Point Lane would require too much
filling and grading within 1,000 feet of shore. This
IS what Mr. and Mrs. Milliren opposed.
2. The topography of the lot is very steep.
Conditioned upon the following:
^ 1. The eastern access to be removed and seeded.
DAVID BUTLER
4685 No. Shore Dr.
CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT #537
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2. The applicant must submit construction plans for
the driveway containing the following: proposed
elevations, profiles, drainage plans and erosion
control steps during and after construction.
3. Relocation of garbage can shelter.
4. Applicant must certify that no gas, telephone, or
electrical utilities are in that area.
Motion was seconded by Frahm. Vote; Ayes (5), Nays (0).
Motion passed unanimously.
DAVID BUTLER
4685 No. Shore Dr.
CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT #537
(Cont.)
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Mr. Tibbetts was present. No public comments were
heard. Mabusth explained the two phases of this
project. It was noted that the house will be an
additional 8* from the lake when completed. Wilson
it was an ambitious project for this lot, but
did state he would approve if the density of the
adjacent lots was similar and if this was a situation
of completing a neighborhood rehabilitation as opposed
to just a beginning.
Hannah moved to recommend approval of the variance
application based on the following findings:
1. There is no additional land available.
2. It will relocate the house an additional 8*
further from the lake.
This remodeling will bring the house up to the
neighborhood standard. Applicant needs to
provide a new raised foundation for the existing
structure.
Drainage will be improved as the current drainage
to the lake will be directed to the sides.
This approval should be contingent upon:
1. Removal of the 8* X 21* existing structure
during the final phase of construction.
2. Building Inspector to recheck plans for drainage.
Motion seconded by Jabbour. Vote: Ayes (3), Nays
(2) Wilson and Frahm Motion passed.
Frahm was opposed to the application as he cannot approve
any hardcover variance of 60% under any circumstance.
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STEVEN TIBBETTS
1998 Shadywood Rd.
VARIANCE
#540
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Wilson felt it was too ambitious for the lot; however,
he again stated he would approve if the density of the
surrounding lots was similar and this was the last lot
in the area which needed such extensive remodeling to
make it consistent with the other houses.
STEVEN TIBBETTS
1998 Shadywood Rd.
VARIANCE #540
(Cont.)
At this point, Mr. Tibbetts questioned if the reasoning
behind the submittal deadline wasn't to allow time for
Commission members to inspect the site. Mr. Wilson
stated that before he could vote to approve the variance
he would need a list of surrounding lot siges and densities,
particularly hardcover calculations.
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Mr. and Mrs. Rivers and their attorney, Lou Oberhauser,
were present. Oberhauser reviewed the reasons for the
application, zoning history and use of subject property
through the 60*s and 70*s. Planning Commission was
concerned with limiting additional dock use on Tanager
Lake. Frahm noted that if the lots with residences
were to remain LR-lA this need not be a concern.
Since the use of the lakeshore lots bordering Browns
Bay have throughout the years been used by the many
marina operators, he saw no problem with extending the
B-2 zone north including the three Browns Bay parcels.
A conditional use permit for marina parking would be
required for the two residential lots. A public
hearing has been scheduled for March 17, 1980 at
7:45 P.M.
Mr. Robert Burton, Ministers Life Development, and
Mr. Ron Bastyr, their engineer, were present. Bastyr
gave a brief rundown of the proposed plat and showed
preliminary plans. The concensus of the Planning
Commission was that the plat as proposed was good,
however, there was concerns expressed regarding the
following:
1. The safety factor of using the currently unsafe
access for six residential lots, and
2. The three undersized outlets on Smiths Bay.
They felt the plat could be changed to obtain six
riparian lots without the use of the outlets,.but the
character of the plat would be destroyed. They did
not see any problem with the road easement through
Lot 2 to serve Lot 3. The developer was advised to
contact the County regarding scheduling the realignment
of Cty. Rd. 15 as the timing of the plat could be
affected by it.
JAMES RIVERS
1440 Shoreline Dr.
REZONING
#539
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MINISTERS LIFE
DEVELOPMENT
1484 Shoreline Dr.
SUBDIVISION
#541
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Hannah moved to approve the February 19,
as submitted. Motion seconded by Frahm.
Nays (0) . Motion passed unanimously.
Meeting adjourned
1980 Minutes 7VPPROVAL OF MINUTES
Vote: Ayes (5) February 19, 1980
11:00 P.M.