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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-18-1981 Planning Minutesr': * . % - MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF MAY 18, 1981 The Planning Commission met on the above date. The following members were present: Acting Chairman Tom Frahm, George Rovegno, Jabbour, McDonald. Arriving late were Tim Adams and Chairman Hammerel. Also attending were Jeanne Mabusth and Tom Jacobs representing the City Staff. Gregg Hannah attended representing the Council and arriving later in the evening was Jo Ellen Hurr also from council. Mr. Tearse was not present but the owners of the property Mr. Douglas Skarp and Mr. Henry Skarp were present. Mr. Jacobs reviewed the application noting the application dealt with a request for special LR-IB zoning standard for the property. He advised this would involve a rezoning and staff could not recommend this. Rovegno stated if the applicant received credit for wetlands because it is sewered then what else is required for this review. He advised staff to review the findings of the Planning Commission with applicant and report back to the next meeting. McDonald moved to deny the application for LR-IB zoning. Jabbour moved to second. Vote: Ayes (4) Nays (0). The Donald Weiss's were present, they requested a re-examing of the original application and asked that the side set back be moved closer to the south property line. Staff advised Planning Commission that the locations of the existing buildings on the property to the south were almost on lot line. The 10 ft. distance would have to be maintained for fire protection. Jabbour moved to let the old motion stand. Tim Adams moved to second. Vote Ayes (5) Nays (0) Mr. Jacobs reviewed that this was a renewal of a lot area and lot width variance. Planning Commission noted of the encroachment of the deck into the 0-75 ft. set back area. Planning Commission felt that the City did not ATTENDANCE 7:30 PM H.H. TEARSE JR. 1080 W. FERNDALE RD VARIANCE #598 DONALD H. WEISS 2245 SHADYWOOD RD. VARIANCE #611 GARY NUNNALLY 3844 CHERRY AVE. VARIANCE #613 * \ i IJ ?• h PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MEETING—MAY 18, 1981 PAGE 2 have the right to remove the well pump. Planning Commission was concerned that the allowed hardcover of 1,886.5 sq. feet could not be maintained if the proposed house was to meet all the required set backs of the zoning district. The driveway serving this house would bring hardcover over the allowed amount.■1 If the house was moved back the applicant would lose the view of the lake because the neighbor­ ing houses are very close to the lake. A detached garage would result in possibly more or as much hardcover since the applicant proposes a tuck-under garage. Jabbour moved to recommend a variance of 366 sq. feet of additional hardcover to be consistent with the pattern of neighborhood development and there is no other way for him to put in a house on this lot without a hardcover variance and the fact that he cannot view the lake if we make him come back another 30 feet. Gloria McDonald seconded the motion. Vote: Ayes (5) Nays (1) Tom Frahm minority because; He has never been in the opinion that since the neighbors abuse the land that we should do it again. I think 1800 sq. feet is plenty of room to build a nice house. Mr. James McGowan was not pr'^sent, however the builder Mr. Jim Cleary was present with a few neighbors that had concerns. The neighbors were as follows: Mr. and Mrs. Robert Schneck 3155 Jamestown Road. Mr. Tom Cartier 3065 James­ town Road and Mr. Ken Allison 6th Avenue North. JAMES McGOWAN 3175 JAMESTOWN RD. VARIANCE #617 Their concern was just what he planned and the size of the barn for residential neighborhood. The plans show the barn will have four stalls, where applicant is only allowed three horses. Why can't the barn be located to meet the 150 foot setback. This application was tabled because Planning Commission felt members should get out on the site and also to allow time for neighbors to send in written complaints. hdama moved to table this application Hammerel moved to second. Vote: Ayes (6) Nays (0> •h*M. -i . :y-,: ; - JRENT % ttlDALE RD [VISION \ i ?•; ^REDESON >OINT RD.I 107 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MEETING MAY 18, 1981 PAGE 4 and 10 ft. north property line. The encroachment beyond 40 feet of lakeshore of the hardcover on the west side results from the location of the city street that is less than 10 feet from the lakeshore. Hannerel moved to second motion. Vote: Ayes (3) Nays (3) Minority; Frahm, Rovegno, & MdDonald. K*;v«:‘qno; It is a small lot, it is about 5o% of lot required area for the zoning district. It is gratuitous to grant a 40 ft. set back in a required 75 ft.. Mr. Hussman was present. Jeanne Mabusth noted that Hussman presented same 24 unit residential PRD application that he received preliminary approval from council August 14, 1979. Adams would like to know specifically; 1) How many new children? 2) What plans for Daniel Park on Lyric Avenue? He asked that staff send application to the Park Commission for additional review. Hussman agreed with coundil recommendation on the street name and changed plat road name to "Wiley Place”. Public hearing for subdivision was set for June 15, 1981 at 7;30 P.M. Mr. Myhre and Mr. Woodridge were present. Mabusth explained 2 lot subdivision noting existing driveway will serve both lots. Access to the new house on lot 1 will be via the private driveway and not off Casco Point Road. Frahm noted for record that the lot will have no riparian rights and that the city does not recognize access easements to the lake. Rovegno noted this lot will be limited to 25% hardcover. Mabusth noted possible need to realign lot line so that the 100 ft. depth and width is maintained along building line. Public hearing for subdivision set for June 15, 1981 7;30 P.M.. . •’j ■ (A Tin GEORGE HUSSMAN 3660 SHORELINE DR. SUBDIVISION #585 r = ^ :.v; DAVID MYHRE 2490 CASCO POINT R1 SUBDIVISION #614 1 M im piiB' PLM4NXNG COMMISSION MINUTES - MEETING MAY 18, 1981 PAGE ■i ;SMAN :line dr. >N «585 ■ .i IE ) POINT m «614 Me. and Mrs. Judd Ringer, Mr. Graydon McCuMey, and Mr. Gene Tomlinson were present. Mabusth reviewed the 3 lot subdivision noting the need for a platted cul-de-sac of 100 ft. width and diameter at the end of the designated road. In addition it was noted that the designated wetlands were not noted on the plat. Planning Commission reviewed the possibility of a loop road connecting Willow and 12. Staff advised intensive use of an access off 12 would have to be reviewed by the Highway Department. Staff advised applicant that subdivision review should be delayed pending resolution of the conditional use application of Parkview. Applicant may wish to change the plan at some­ time in the future. No action was required by Planning Commission. Mr. Harry Garrish and Ms. Pat Meyer were present. Jabbour noted that before we get into the subject of site plan for this facility, that this body must first determine if an in-patient hemical dependency treatment center is compatible with surrounding residential zoned neighborhood. Members listed the various criteria that could be used in a Use Comparison Study of the Treatment Center versus 10 lot Residential Plat. The following is the list: 1. Maximum size of facility 2. Age limits for patients 3. Limited to in-patient facility 4. Traffic question on Willow Dr. 5. Buffer area to residential 6. Security to be reviewed 7. Open space easement over wetlands around Dicky Lake 8. Restrict Lake use Frahm stated, "how can this body make any realistic findings without first establish­ ing a set of standards". JUDD RINGER 2280 WAY2ATA BLVD. SUBDIVISION #615 :■ 1 r ■M mmmliMl PARKVIEW TREATMENT CENTER 2280 WAYZATi BLVD. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT #616 •s ^ i _ V"- '■y- •)>fjr... ir SR \Th BLVD. 3N #615 1 !•: • 1 rREATMENT 30 WAYZATi ^IDITIONAL r #616 V =;.r;- PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF MAY 18, 1981 PAGE <1 Planning Commission decided that outside assistance was needed and advised staff to seek the necessary help. Planning Commission refused to accept Tim Olson's offer on behalf of the Metropolitan Health Board to review this facility's application for a certificate cv^ need even after F^vegno's explanation of the reasons ic»r the need assessment process, the noting of Olson comment that there is an excess of such facilities/ that any such hospital - sponsored facility would require a certificate of need. It was noted that Mike Gaffron had already presented some factual data on the application and it could be used to respond to this specific comparison. McDonald asked that the assessor make a comparison between tax monies that would benefit the city if either one of those uses were approved. Hammerel advised applicants that this type of review would necessitate rescheduling any actio i on the conditional use permit by the Planning Commission until June 15th meeting. Tom Frahm was appoints to attend the May 27th council meeing and Tim Adams to attend the June 8th meeing. Adams moved to approve the minutes of the May 4th meeing. McDonald seconded. REPRESENTATIVE TO COUNCIL MEETING APPROVAL OF MINUTES Meeting adjourned at 10:45 P.M.ADJOURNMENT • ••• f-p.: r. if: