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04-19-1982 Planning Minutes
AGENDA 9% PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING COUNCIL CHAMBERS 7;30 PM MONDAY, APRIL 19, 1982 Council Representative - Jo Ellen Hurr Call to Order 1. Call to order/roll Public Hearings Subdivision 3. 7:45 PM Zoning Amendment - Suntanning Studios 4. 8:00 PM #677 William Gregory/David Duff, 1410 & 1420 Shoreline Subdivision 2.7:30 PM 3.7:45 PM 4.8:00 PM 5."«:15 PM 6.8:30 PM Action Items Subdivision Subdivision 7.#615 8.#626 9.#648 10.#674 11.#675 12.#679 13.#680 Final Resolution - Subdivision Final Resolution - Subdivision Variance Conditional Use Permit Variance Variance : Conditional Use Permit & Variance Information Items :%• ' i' 14. Planning Commission to select Planning Commission Representative to attend May 10, 1982, Council meeting. Approval of Minutes 15. Approval of the Planning Commission minutes of March 15, 1982 % _-— I ill IIIIII1^I «^nxr»vi k'^'PTING of APRI^ 19/ 1982 «UTES of the commission ^^ETIN date The following - Planning ;firhan!%=Oonald City Planner Jeanne^^ epresented the City st:^ ere also present. affidcivit .ficate of mailing audience forrAsr-tc “ Si-oi' »“» srtdetermined tne ia adDOining purpose and that rni» was appropri line rearrangement 5?st- *“ •“■• ’ Ellis property. ^ ^ vote: Ayes (6)/ Nays (0). Opheim seconded. - .. a 4-he affidavit I r•^-^ficate of mailing en +.hf» audience * Olson noted the nr cne P^®®®^^this amendment rrtr.4 “^A allow suntanning as _-»T-»arate business, oisrondtttori use Pe-t^r/inanirrefttons as they related to different consoercral ' Rovegno asked if .?g*^frtm^these suntanning beds and tre'cfty°assr"!iibility of health issues. Tson stated that the directed at a use o^^P „^„j_d separately building or ^®®^hized in the business. ■.,»» but that in the attendance 7:30 PM mike ELLIS/ CITY OF ORONO I .0 Old crystal] Bay Road South subdivision #678 7:30 “ 7:32 Public Hearing m lift ! ZONING AMENDMEN' SUNTAN STUDIOS 7.45 - 7:46 Public Hearing •V: - v.!.r ;■=’£;* / v= H-l- i'i'pm:MmI':;'-'.:;':-'.':, . . . . . . . . . . .=■; 5/ RONO Crystal] south on 32 ■aring amen OMEN' STUDIOS 7:46 Hearing ■, i .■ -r^kM mfftING of APRIi* ' 198 „.„„S .F ™. ““ eliminatxng this _ , j \7r»+-e* Ayes (7) IRovegno seconded. V • affidavit ;r/.s “xr“EsH“2 - representing the PP ^^^^^ation. audience for thi P j^qw ♦-■ioned the fishing ptobrs:ir“co»».u.^ „„ «.«*4 “ ;j"n; 2;i“h“.°5«: “■ "f.*i;us»F i.rror,'4£iHk%.’".st « - to close off ana w fisherman. for all four lots, ophei. asKed about the tiparian t . auh- Mahusth advised the Co^itncoS.plete because the reguxte^.^^^ CTf%f/i-eVth the county. „a.^erei,-ed ""-^ihifriotr ^ pfinclpa? and alte^ addition to septic desig ^ «d =etba^^^^^^^ STxirttnrr«fct|res ^^ptefiJ^rnrirapproval of lirsurditrsforhv ^thfcity^f Otono. R.Uey seconded. Vote: ^yes O) . «ays ,0) _r «a^irna and Page 2 ZONING amendment (CONT.) william GREGOR^/ DAVID DUFF 1410 Shoreline Subdivision 8:04 - 8:15 Public Hearing V'-M -,'^- r'-V y i£;:::;.y'^.yy^-^v mmrn 4^;:\;• :V^ ^ '1«-, Xr nireT the ^fx^ornglare'^"of publication. The foi the Schlee „ho were present at^th^^^^ the developer,^was^^^^.^ Slson°s^arized the jchleej^P'°P^ensity^ traffic^ public E.;.™ sn" ~comments traffic problems. „a„ted to knowr.t%r.r»'HS.M r=.--- - o^.«^ -F-f,-iyys“S»iS o. BUi..«—» g;.r.rn5=y..d sbo«u«.. SCHLEE builders 3660 Shoreline Dr Subdivision I #671 8:15 - 9:00 Public Hearing 14. Y/ 'vyj- lders I line Dr| »n )0 aring APRIL 19f William Maxwell 3452 ' W^^|^at>af Mr- and MTS. Peters b wlyzatar^'^^SSSSl k ■■ Wayzata, MN 5539 Mr and Mrs. Johnson ^nft Lvric AvenuellllXm 5539X SCHLEE MAILING LIST Mr. and Mrs. Stallman 3520 Lyric Avenue^ Wayzata» MN 55S MV and Mrs. Escher gLS""ri;»” # f.kiT»9?|.,5r-Wayzata# MN Larry Sohns BOX 484 55384 Spring ParX, mw sIS9 ts£““ tard L6® 3^15 Lyric H^zata, MN 55391 Monte sohns ^ MMUavarre, MN 55392 Page 3 t^obertearaf-"--L Sslo^Northern Ave^ wayzata, MN 55391 4 Mr. and Mrs. Slechta 3700 **°'^^*'®/''c:539i wayzata # MN S“Sfs”Si William I>older 3515 vgayzata# MN : ' ll-'- S3’"?-- wm .t Russ Fierst gS.S’"» ».«1 ■' '■' •< ’a-' ^ .<r. % m[ |,-.U—n-> - -^\'\mmmmm' ’ - ------------- o, ». --«■«« ‘" J.rtv ««'• ”' “'SS doS“»??hra £•»«• ”5f “' Qty Uvfthere don’t this property should accommodate this proj anyway. „((-h this project Olson stated that thr/proie^ -f ,ftted rt^fiurUai^ est the existing nous the City's functioning ®tS'‘permi«ed without sewer an^ the^Ci Northern t®” ^ , an has stated that . g 1985. m “Ti’^S^'seiered^eventually. P^®?ruck^or pump system •‘“""'^^rialerfl sew«, a oil onlyreceive late , j-^ngs would be cai forward proceeding and Schlee the work comment IS ^ .g^ i^ot to look at d g..^e costs. if the City |g„n Livingston Avenue? accommodate tr technical option being . ^u,*. <-his was one technicalr.r»Ks'S ‘r«« would go down Livings o ,„enue stated that “t?;ft fhtn "the Citf^^Plf fh^^rsfderts'^along Livingston. Livingston at the exp a .- of 3596 Livingston County that they?;^r«af£ic problem was lef^up^W K s'lE?; is dead? tersection at Blaine and f^Tasnre"adr-d^p3a^d\o know what the City s 7lans were to improve this. Page 4 SCHLEE (CONT.) h Hr if.:. •■- . V'-'-; ■A•;y t L^-( NT.) s'jfc , ■ ■*-■ -: '■ :■ • . •• .. .* jr- ‘^'‘i^-i-. ': ■ ^XLt i '■' „»„„s or ™ PU.»™ " "“" r.-4-., e+-af£'s recommendation is to lllrt of this development.a parr ^ i-hat if a race tracjv/ e"he Karen Gabert of 3572 Livingston ^I^rarlaf an/£th moved into Orono be like living downtown. this d©V0lopin0nt ttnio uc I- „4.ot-pd that wouldn't E“.“BV£fs “”- - ho\is0S • 4-^/1 4-0 know william Mawwell stateds 52i: vx’-r,u<“- ^ •i-v»a'h last year they were p ^ TrJiTlI lownhousef and no^^ they were proposmg twicf as many . Why? a ^hat this proposal now includes twice C.H\lnTlt Sf previoL application. • comments were made by unknown people w o rdn^°t“rvrthrirna^s" one man wanted to know stated yes. to be built on without tne v „an stated that.the City should hold^anot^^^^ tttrtng or meeting in which the^neig^ ^ tfd gtrhrifofttfprevious Wednesday, but only 3 people came. . •f• d several people these people were outside about the hearing. ^ that the notice was published in the 30o' of the property which is mailed to people within .5uu required by law. one man he was opposed because^he^fel^^ fr^plrtt fof rti^ tiJtr^oveLnts. etc. Page 5 SCHLEE (CONT.) 'ti’ .••:• •• • :-^V. ,.T :, ; ' - • •: .•• • - ^ x V. ■ ■■■ . : ■■. r ^ ,-.L' ,r It! r.'y gk. iJ.' ■! *: *' r.TrvM mffTING of APRIL 19r 1982or C0».IS0..» ««.»I 4-hat would be required bHhwged for any cost. ------- SCHLEE (CONT.) be charged for any cost. , ..qo PM. The Planning “dffiSllS on «.ssssS.... -.•*» »•.«■ .They first addressee t.u . . vhat he would be in °\ess in density.°P‘'""'?jri?dweUinfs. whichever would be less or multipl deciued to plat ,or multiple dwexxxn... Callahan ashed the developer why Outlot A?Outlot A? ar-Y-anaed to reduce^ ^ 4-h;»t the plan was arrangea Srensef for^roaas and utilities. • _ ^ /■ expenses for roa concept „ph,i. f.i. «•« «; “tSS'uS'S'ii." because it prvj^'-' open space. - —open space. tnnitiole dwellings Fierst stated that^they^had^looke family^dwelling C^^meftoTit -re into the a.ea an^^^^ ,„,,ungs. community would benefit _ _ ^^ssing thecommunity would oenu bypassing the -ii felt that the developer was yp c^df with a PHD subdivision plan. M _ _ ^ ^ ■ rr.»a »“-•* s »?•"* thUH th. « .... . 5S*ri".d ‘S».....- . 0.0 ‘"il*. .....d»« W-JS;^SS^"»SS ; ”°d tf^ttrttt“tight of way.rf street right of way. Kelley stated that the CO—un for the safety aspect uthe safety aspect o. «ion didn't like stated that if the Pi®""^"? ^k'^ith the original ^tfplat ttat schlee would come back ^ unit plan. ^^i T- "o unit plan. ^his nev stated that from a ?®^®^^be°City would determine Sft^rw?uirLTeSn?ri:?o the health, safety and ^ ...----- .ISM. HISMW V- - iS •.•••; •m:K-r. • f A: '^V'-■•>• • . ..•=!.'■ • •. ■y-.o ^••r ii ■ .b. • br-rx ■: *v- .A-' ;• -'.I ••.•• 3b •» V. •,..,. viid 11 W-'rr-: lir&l DMMISSION MKETING of APRIL 19, action with County Roaa 15 ess directly onto 15. hafl taken a traffic count along Mia? tSs plan would not^Le^ lildren already oi. j-iA .C counts have been taken every e county should be P^®®®"access to why they won’t allow ac. ter of review is coming and was It it hasn’t arrived yet. ,ere would be.no possible way to rorc^ur^then^l-^^^^^^^^ HOW do we handle it? This i study ahould be done^on the^^^^^ •ingston and th r ^^ance rs;iST,vt“5;i.V-. lo. at way they would get more units. W^make^ thf balk’'llad“a“eld end. ...^/.iates had met with theand his associates na unty and that both had sugg plan for the streets. the schlee Builders PRD subdivision wing findings: ot in conformance with the zoning ic analysis to make a recommendation ,ood impact against the plat. 1982 Page 7 I- • SCHLEE (CONT.) f-' i -Vi-. H Am :-;‘r ■' *1 1^1 ' V ■ i.' OF APRII' miuotes of the commission i£ they denied the plat that^the^ Callahan stated t a „ould factory. Hesurrounding Pt°P“ty „„„ „ere satrsfaoto y laits that had proPuid^.t aown f t%lan. hf wov^ld only come ^ack Id agree onSToSa“ ■..« «r ss the of on traffic. further mf developer could °'’*'^^acr«fth"a“^i«efen"t plan with less numbers, come ba a-his plat now the Hovegno stated tna^y a^ t ^^^t. developer would come o Plerst stated t-^-^the^raff bal recon^ended this had suggested and rn plan. .:.r,vation should be done povegno stated ;^,^^iS®“°“Rov:g^ then^expl^ tP t^^-t Audience!: who^was^still^pres^^^^ an| some level -ov>ablv would There is not muchts'SK- s;-..difference between Page ® SCHLEE (CONT.)i-i • ■ vote- Ayes (2), Nays (5). Motion failed. ^Uahan -n ,^^ved^^^ folJ^rtirs-. unit plat subject to th the problem. (City -o ^ , 48 single family units allows .2-48 singx Engineer s 3 . sewers to flow north per recommendation. Engineer's plan 4 . water main extension per City approval. city Engineer and 5 . storm drainage system per City MCWD plan approval. engineer's plan 6 . street construction per City appto'^®^* , to Park Commission , Tot lot park dedicati^on subDect^ dedication per ^ - recommendations with ,„d the | °/urrenf1ef scredule. ^„d . of all required devel p ^g^ication fees, « - !:rovement inspection charges or type is decided. rt^d vote: Ayes (5), Nays (2). Rovegno seconded. Vote * V V : ■V- i , • c n. THE COMMISSION MEETING OF AFRII- 19, 1982 MINUTES OF THE n-i- Olson notsd dry Peterson and Gene Earnst^were <=a>^tificate of marling "^^t^Tlere pLsent Mrs. Keesling of 1384 na Baldur Park were p Baldur Park Road and Jerry o from the audience. proposal. n.».arized the Tonka Lake PropertiesOlson summarized th .„„„,«ion that in Page 9 tonka properties 1340 Baldur Park Subdivision #669 9:00 - S:30 Public Hearing He Olson suromaj-x^^- - . 4-v,at in ss;.nru;^rr.her property to g already this the lakeshore „._a with this proposal i* ® see how they Ps^people travelling across her SS« “ “■ . Ted Boer stated that no one ^had letter to the property which °'^^^J;^5.oached on his property 5 . TZllk that 8- of thlf all the City had ptanSf to‘’dS w^s condemenation of his prope Olson stated that ngaUy^esWbUsh^what^ia^tte ^fth/developer ^^cha^sinf "o t fe fh: ^ri^anl rhLrhrP-^vent furthe “r encroachment. 2?iiUns.“K.5Sv'rr.r«ti ». * >•• dwelling units much less 1.dwelling units traffic and parking Boer stated that there «®®g®3^2d’'that the City would not |^°en"!et°him‘'put’^uf a sign stating “Private Proper discourage parking. recommended st narking controls.about P j e aciuallv a swamp Keesling stated that the road wa t “t®- hl feit that it «°“l<i IlSning Commission that iS^ffic She also informed the Placing UtlrsoA had just listed the «ho P.^ osal was going Ss book. She wanted to know wny Sead if it was for sale. ■ /it"’ ■J I Blvd risioi :khout \ Brown i .vision, mi L. „.„„s or co»..ss.o» «.™o or »..o property to the south -ufficient hardships. „u„ .... .... ‘ “w“FS™ Ss’s'".. owner lirst National Bank of Navarre ootoh.r 15”. n|„ location.will :^>ve to Its new x ii 5* j to approve the setbaclc National ?o^r^l?> refbe^d ^ -‘’^ect to structure onthe following conditions. 1 . „u»« «•• """ signs. ri-rafted between bank ^ - Restoration of „iLd by the City 4 _ Any additional conditions r q Engineer in his the building 5 - payment for the engin permit. ^ cease when the 111 nse of the outer remote lane to6 - All use or location,bank moves to a new a a vote- Ayes (7), Nays (0). * Goetten seconded. Vote. Y meeting earlier Mr Cloutier was at the 3'^a^Ucation with Jeanne. in’thl evening. He discussed hi PP^^j^ withdrew his fp^rifatfora^-^seq^g^K^ i- CoL>ission on his applioc • agenda. meeting before this item variance Mabusth ftated that ^^is was the previously ^'’^Uved'by CouncU if 1978 and 1979. approved by u _ ^ -f this was agreeable to council Mabusth advised that sheds be removed"rt.r.irs... ..h.....-- Page 11 first national bank of NAVARRE 2445 Shadywood Variance #648 tr-, CORTLEN CLOUTIER 2480 Casco Point Conditional Use Permit #674 ■» j Vl DONALD CARTER j 4460 North Shore Variance #675 I <L ■ 7 MIKOTES of the planning commission meeting of APRIL 19. 1982 Applicant stated that that would be fine. 'S , . 4. 4-^1- an estimate cn how longVs s: SS! Applicant stated at the end of 1983. 4-V ia 1 nt" a.]T03> 2tnd Xot wxdtli Goetten '”°''®‘^r,’^°,?5^carter*^subject to the following variance for Donald Carter suoje conditions: ^ - riefs^ ToTard^-ef v^riili^erSo^^^^^ _ in the future. ^ i-»v.e 2 - Removal of ^"fo?f wattbotr^inspection aSd the resoding of all disturbed areas. 3 - Approved access permit from Hennepin County. 4 • No setback variances. Kelley seconded. Vote: Ayes (7), Nays (0). Mr. and Mrs. Smiley were present^with^their^attor^^y^ Dick Hassel. Hassel ^ smiley's objectxve was in 1949 and Lot 17 , a'^'hluse on Lot 16 based^ obtain a variance to build a nou the following findings: The area surrounding Lot 16 is h acre and sewered. Lot 16 may be the only lot that shows no building on. 3 . unanimous approval from all neighbors. 4 - 1967 the zoning was changed to 1 acre smiley stated that ”*He"stated’^that the housebe able to build on that lot. He was built approximately m 1953. 4-^^n.r:,q Hassel about the 8' encroachment of Hassel stated that the City could appro^^an^e^^^ Tarfa r^fth^r 1^00^601 Lot 16. 18*’'to^t^etst”satisfrth^ &ard of^the zoning district. Xetten noted that this lot was held in common ownership. Goetten asked if there was a water stub at Lot 16? 1 - 2 - Page 12 CARTER (CONT) WILLIAM SMILEY 2720 Pheasant Variance #679 ' . *7’' i1 1 ?■ A NT) SMILEY asant f- ■< /A minutes of the PLM^NING commission meeting of APRIL 19, 1982 Jof"ifand^nt bufoSrrj'ewafstufafLot 16 serving Loti 17 • Vi i o ^ ^-bat anv lot held in common ^code standards. „hat were the hardships. f194ftherfwerfno°area requiren.ents and thl?e additional land available. ^fritnee ^rwifu^^SmUer-blecrtf thf following findings; ^ - -Usitt-i? rtfe°xL:fnrprttrm OI • . Lighborhood development. 2 - Lots never combined for tax benefi . 3 - NO additional land available. : r^r,* for triangle shape which ^ encroaches onto other lot. Page 13 SMILEY (CONT.) ■% m L,-, ^^ vote; Ayes (4), Nays (3). rnliniinions inc^ They all felt that this lot^w^ ^00^ °L^®tth toning code standards, ^pl^cation total of Tllllr rfrttfunit!^ &ry"srg"hfuse L fhe^twrrts irrnrresfdtntial unit. Lots have been maintained as one yard. tSe”tpp?ictttrtrDtv!d"ttitt°r^ following hardships: X - steepness of slopes. 7 . Difficult access to lake. ^ v, »of to the following conditions: veant file a permit with the M.C.W.D. 1 - Appl cant fil P rt„vices be employed 2 - Adequate erosion stch as placement during period of j shoreline and at - ■ bales «l°^f„tg%tsfand west lake— ^ DAVID BUTLER 4685 North Shore Conditional Use & Variance #680 i •. .a: I of banks strategic areas (1) Abstention Opheim Callahan seconded. Vote: Ayes (6), Nays (0). abstained because of a conflict of interest ■ . COMMISSION MEETING OF APRU. 1^, 1982 Page 14 minutes of the planning commission me Tsr lixrMTKfn • 4on elected George Rovegno to attenPlanning Commissxon ele t »Ve council meeting of May x . d to approve the Planning Commission minutes Goetten moved t P of March 15, 198x, Vote: Ayes (4) , Nays (0) •Callahan seconded. Vote. y „ .He Planning Commission adjourned at 11:45 PM. planning commission representative to attend council ■ meeting approval of minutes ajournment 11:45 PM -t V i.;: ' - V: ^ ■ r-ii n • ■ 7 ^ V” V •: ■ J I.X--- ■’ifiK H.-': ■jTFIWIW^- ftlS.n,