HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-22-1977 Planning MinutesAGENDA
PIANI^ING COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 22, 1977
ORONO CITY HALL - 7:30 P.M.
I. CURREOT IT0S
A. Action Items
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Call to Order
#223 - Public Hearing - 7:30 p.m.
William D. Levering - 275 Willow Drive
Sijbdivision (Preliminary)
Minutes of Regular ^feeting of February 7, 1977
#199 - Mrs. Robert Gasch - 1030 Tonkawa Road
Variance - Fence Setback (Structure)
#200 - Victoria Grain Con^any - 500 North Arm Drive
Subdivision (Preliminary) - Revised Plan
#210 - Jack Rhode - 1410 Bohns Point Road
Variance - Lot Area and Width - Conditional Use Permit
#131 - Stewart Perry - 2975 Casco Point Road
(Revised Plan) ?
Ski Tonka - Conditional Use Permit - Second Phase
#226 - Williamson Construction Co. - 3779 Casco Avenue
Vacation of unused alley or variance on Lots 12 and 13
if vacation is denied
#231 - Kermit LaQuey - 190 Cygnet Place
Lot Area and Width Variance Renewal
Review Platting Ordinance
Review Wetland Dredging and Duck Ponds (Moratorium)
Review ?4cCleaiy Resolution
Review Park Status (Nforatorium)
B. Work Session Items
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#232
#233
#234
#235
J. K. Bowers - 2905 Casco Point Road
Variance and Riprap
Robert Nelson - 4108 Higjiwood Road
Riprap
Stubbs Bay Nbrina - 3445 Bayside Road
Construction Proposal - Site and Elevati^ Plans
North Shore liarina - 3222 North Shore Drive
1977 License Application Review
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C. Incomplete Items
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#188
#202
#209
Steve Wallack (T.M.G. Corp.) - 4100 Sixth Avenue N.
Subdivision (Preliminary)
Harrison Johnston - 925 Willow Drive
Conditional Use Permit ^ Variance - Tabled - Moratorium
Richard Ledstrom - 3465 Sixth Avenue North
Wetlands Variance - Conditional Use Permit - Duck Pond
Tabled - Moratoriun
4, #217 - Robert Birkeland - 1298 Wildhurst Trail
Wetlands Variance - Dredging Permit - Deferred (Nforatorium)
II. C0MPI£TED ITEMS FOR COUNCIL
A. Ccm^leted Items
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#220 - William Gregory - 1410 Shoreline Drive
Vacation - Extension of Brackett Avenue - Council Tabled Per
Applicant’s Request
#222 - Ruth Wear Estates - 2901 IVatertown Road
Subdivision (Preliminary) - Concurred
#192 - Navarre Area Rezoning - Tabled For More Study
#219 - Gary Peterson - 3545 Ivy Place
Variance - Lot Area § Width - Right of V/ay and Lakeshore Setback -
Concurred - Suggested Investigating Adjacent Lot
#120 - James Sidivell - 1375 Park Drive
Review Previous Proposal - Approved
#225 - Good Shepherd Parsonage - 2466 Dunwoody Avenue
Conditional Use Permit - Annual Review - Concurred
#227 - Rebecca Derry - Nursery and Child Development Center
Transfer of CXmership of Existing Non-Conforming Use - Concurred
IXick Problem - 3908 Cherry Avenue and 1972 Shadywood Road -
Enforce Present Ordinances
#224 - John II. Honour - 3560 Ivy Place
Variance - Addition to Non-Confoiming Lot - Concurred
#228 - Vincent Johnson - 469 Tonkawa Road
Variance - Lot Area and Width - Concurred
#229 - Joe Van Bockel - 2800 Shadywood Road
Wetlands Variance - Dredge Existing Slip § Riprap Shoreline - Concurred
#21 - George Toman (Paul Schleich) - 100 Orono Ordiard Road
Lot Rearrangement and Variance - Concurred
#230 - Allan Pennington - 1991 Page mess Point Road
Riprap - Concurred
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0>cm OF ORONO, MINNESOTA
REOJLAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 22, 1977
mie Orono Planning Comnission net on the above date with the
following meiii>eTS present: Chaiman Gregg Hannah, Msiii>ers
Gloria McDonald, John Guthrie, Paul Pesek, and Dick Hassel.
Also present were Hank Muhich, Zoning Administrator, mid
Mayor Brad Van Nest.
Acting Qiairman Pesek announced that this was the tine and
place for a Pi4>lic Hearing on the petition of Vttlliam D.
levering for a subdivision of property located at 275
Willow Drive. The Zoning Administrator presented the
Notice of Public Hearing and the Affidavit of Publication.
The Zoning Administrator informed the Comnission that Mr.
Levering is proposing to subdivide this land into nine
lots includmg a private road and cul-de*sac. He informed
the Comnission that the soils map and report he received
from the Hennepin County Soils Conservation District
indicates that the Gc soils in the northeast comer of
the property concurs with our wetlands map. He also
pointed out that the controversial Ha soil is also indi
cated on this map. Ihe Zoning Adninistrator once again
expressed his concern over classifying Ha soil as dry
buildable. Reports from the Hennepin County Soils
Conservation District reveal that this soil is not
i^*suitable for on-site septic systems. The Zoning Admin-
^Ostrator stated that he had contacted Mr. Jim Anderson
of the Soils Conservation District and hopes that he
will be able to attend the next meeting to define this
Ha soil.
The Zoning Administrator also pointed out that the pro
posed access onto Willow Drive is only 251 feet north
of the existing Elm Lane access. He suggested that ^s
access be relocated due to the number of access roads
already onto .billow Drive. One alternative would be to
line iq> tiie proposed access with tiie existing Glendale
Drive located across Willow Drive. The Zoning Adninistra-
tor indicated that the Levering plat shows a 50 ft. wide
private road. This access road should be 60 ft.
Mr. Levering was present. He brought forth s<xne pictures
for the Planning Connission to study. He stated that he
does agree with the wetlands areas and would be willing to
eliminate one lot if necessary. He would also be willing
to relocate the access road to line 14) with the existing
Glendale Drive.
Ron Miller, Don Mendelson, Jim Dillman and several other
neighbors in attendance were extremely concerned over
^jpssible future drainage problems. They infonned the
(rjnnmission that the northeast comer of the property was
^ften flooded. Water was known to have flooded over
Willow Drive before it was improved and revised.
ATTENDANT - 7:30 P.M.
WILLjlAM D. 1£VERING
275 WILLOW DRIVE
SUBDIVISION (PRELIMINARY)
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Orville Osgood, representing his father, expressed his con
cern regarding the proposed subdivision. Some of these
concerns were:(l) agricultural land that i^uld be destroyed,
destruction of small wildlife preserve, (3) an environ-
^^tal impact stu^ be conducted. He hates to see all this
go to waste just because of this development. He suggested
5 acre hobby farms as an alternative.
After all the concerned public were heard, the public hearing
was closed at 8:20 p.m. Chairman Hannah thanked the residents
for their comnents. He assured them that the Planning
Comnission was also concerned about the runoff and would make
certain that the lots would support an on-site septic system.
There are no plans for sewer in this area at this time. The
Planning Conoassion is also concerned about the wildlife.
All these items will be taken into consideration vdien making
their recomnendatian.
After some discussion, Pesek moved, Guthrie seconded, to table
this matter and requested the applicant submit a revised pro
posal indicating the following:
Exclude the area in the northeast comer from the dry
buildable area.
Give to the City an open-space conservation easement
over wetlands.
Access road to be 60 ft. wide rather than 50 ft. with
underlying easement to the City.
Easement to ccHitinue due west from cul-de-sac to west
property line of plat for possible future access to
land to the west.
Sanitary, water, telephone, gas and electric easements
along private road and Willow Drive.
Private road (no development agreement or bond needed).
Developer to provide title opinion of property
addressed to the City.
(8) Drainage plans indicating drainage easements (to be
approved by City Engineer and Public Works Director.
(9) Drainage calculations to verify culvert sizes.
(10) Direct drainage with swails rather than culverts
idierever possible.
(11) Relocate access road to property directly across from
Glendale Drive.
(12) Indicate dry buildable areas of each lot.
(13) Park Dedication Fee as it would apply.
(14) No indication was made that the area designated as Ha
soil ^ould be excluded from the dry buildable area.
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Motion - Ayes (5), Nays (0).
WILLIAM D. LEVERING
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Mr. Bonner reminded the Planning Canmission that they
recomnended approval of Phase II subject to a safety
|rf||port. A qualified engineer has made his investiga*
^Hon and a report will be prepared by the time of the
Council meeting of February 28, 1977.
The Planning Conmission conveyed to Mr. Bonner their
unhappiness with the progress and past problems result
ing from the lack of the applicant complying with code
and licensing procedures.
Mr. Bonner felt that there has been a substantial break
down between the Council and his client. This is some
thing that can happen, and that they have nothing to
hide.
The Planning Comnission felt they should not consider
increasing the size of Ski Tonka at this time until
we can find out if present operation can exist. Any
increase in a Conditional Use Permit increases the
operation. Ski Tonka has not been able to prove
that the present facility can operate within the law.
A leng^y discussion followed. The Planning Comnissian
determined that the conditional use permit application
filed by Ski Tonka had expired. They also felt the
application w^ void as the owners had not lived iq>
the conditions set forth on the ccxiceptual approval
mer never submitted safety inspector’s report).
Pesdc moved, Guthrie seconded, to reconmend that a
new application for a Conditional Use Permit be sub
mitted on the basis that the old one was never taken
advantage of. Conditions of conceptual approval were
never met. Motion - Ayes (5), Nays (0).
^[iplicant was ^ instructed to submit another current
application with the necessary plans and reports.
Another fee would be required with the new application.
The Zoning Administrator informed the Comnission that
original request was for vacation of platted alley idiich
lies between his three lots and to conbine Lots 11, 12
and 13 along with the vacated alley to create a parcel
lai^e enoq^ to meet our minimum zoning requirements of
1/2 acre. ^>plleant is now requesting to change applica
tion for a variance only to use Lot 12 and 13 as a build
ing site.
The Planning Comnission felt that a cemservation easement
on Lot 11 should be granted to the City. Mr. Bill Ecoff,
i^resenting Williamson Construction, was present. He
he would be willing to grant this easement to
SKI TONKA
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WILLIAMSON CCNSTRUCTICN CO.
3779 CASCO AVENUE
VACATION OF UNUSED ALLEY
(M VARIANCE ON LOTS 12
AND 13 IF VACATION IS DENIED
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seconded, to recommendg|proval of lot area variance on the conditions that no other
«riance be granted for constniction of a dwelling and garage,
a ccnsei^atiOT easement over Lot 11 be granted to the City, aAd
the conbination of Lots 12 and 13. Justifications - property is
sewered, ttere is no other land available and vacating alley
would not be in the public interest. Motion - Ayes (5), Nays (0).
TTie Zoning Administrator explained that applicant is request-
approval for renewal of a lot area and width variance.
^royal was obtained two years ago and renewed one year ago.
This IS a preplatted lot. No other land is available.
After a brief discussion, Guthrie moved, Hassel seconded, to
^^omnend approval to continue the variance for one year.
Motion - Ayes (5), Nays (0). ^
I^e Zoning Administrator submitted final plat. Final plat is
the same as the preliminary. Subdivision consists of eiidit
2-acre parcels with a private road.
Hann^ moved, Pesek seconded, to reccmimend suproval of the
final mylar subject to the following;
Drainage plan and easements approved by City Engineer,
a) ^roval of City Attorney.
T3) Park Dedication Fee.
(4) Underlying easement on road.
(5) Utility easement along road.
Motion - Ayes (5), Nays (0).
The Planning Comnission took action on the following work
session items.
Mr. Bowers was present and submitted plan to the Planning
Commission. He is requesting approval to repair an
existing concrete retaining wall with untreated wood ties.
This wall IS less than 75* from the shoreline so a variance
is nece^ary. Riprap request would be a continuation of
the neig^or's shoreline riprap.
The Planning Commission was concerned about the existing
concrete slab and suggested that the applicant have it
if®®®ved, ^Mr. Bowers stated that he would be willing to
remove this slab if the work involved is not too expensive
After a brief discussion, Guthrie moved, Pesek seconded, to
jrwoninend approval of replacing existing concrete retaining
/^!yi with untreated wood ties and requested that applicant
cw^der removing concrete slab. Also recommended approval
request subject to approval of the City Engineer
and applicant obtaining approval of all other agencies as
required. Motion - Ayes (5), Nays (0).
WILLIAMSON CONSTRUCTION
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KERMIT LaQUEY
190 CYGNET PLACE
LOT AREA 6 WmiH
VARIANCE RENEWAL
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VAN EECKHOUT BUILDING
OORPORATK*^
400 OLD CRYSTAL BAY ROAD
SUBDIVISION (FINAL)
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J. K. BOWERS
2905 CASCO POINT ROAD
VARIANCE AND RIPRAP
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The Planning Commission reviewed Mr. Nelson’s plan requesting
approval to riprap his 100* of shoreline. After some dis-
HjKsion, Pesek moved, Qithrie seconded, to recomnend approval
"^W)ject to the approval of the City Engineer and applicant
obtaining approval of all other agencies as required.
Motion - Ayes (5), Nays (0).
Mr. McCleary was present. He submitted a revised site plan
relocating the structure to meet the necessary 50* street
setback. Mr. McCleary is requesting approval of a structure
for purposes of dry storage of boats. Facilities would also
provide a service function along with the sale of gas. All
existing buildings on the property will be removed prior to
construction.
The Planning Commission was very concerned about the proposed
stora|^> of an additional 108 boats inside the building. They
felt It would have a great effect on lake traffic and consid
eration should be given to the possible effects this could
have on excess boat traffic. Mr. McCleary informed the
CommissicMi that the maximum percentage of boats on the lake
at any one time was approximately 201.
Ihe Planning Commission noted that although the building does
meet the required 75* lakeshore setback, it exceeds the
:inum 25% hardcover in zone 2 (from 75* to 250* from shore-
le). The Coimiissim suggested that applicant reduce build
ing size to comply with code. Mr. McCleary was quite upset.
Applicant was also informed that the exposed metal surfaces
of the structure would require some contrasting material to
meet the code.
The Planning Commission stated that this proposed usage is
something that we haven’t addressed in our standards. The
suggestion was made that a public hearing be held to deter
mine the reaction of the surrounding neighbors.
After some discission, McDonald moved, Hassel seconded, to
schedule a public hearing and to notify all property oilers
within 300 feet of the subject property and as many as
possible along the shoreline of Stubbs Bay.
Motion; Ayes - 3 Olannah, McDonald, Hassel), Nays - 1 (Pesek).
Abstain - 1 (Guthrie).
ROBERT NELSON
4108 HIOiWOOD ROAD
RIPRAP
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STUBBS BAY MARINA
3445 BAYSIffi ROAD
OaNSTRUCTION PROPOSAL
SITE AND EI^ATICN PLANS
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Shore Marina.NORTH SHORE MARINA
3222 NORTH SHORE DRIVE
1977 LICENSE APPLICATION
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Mayor Nest infonned the Planning Coiimssion that Council
^3^ considering holding a joint work session on the third
^■Hiursday of every month to discuss policy. After a brief
discussion, the members of the Planning Commission agreed to
this joint work session and would be willing to attend.
The Planning Commission gave a warm welcome to newly appointed
meirber Dick Hassel and expressed that they were looking forward
to working with him.
Pesek moved, Guthrie seconded, that the meeting be adjourned at
11:15 p.m.
JOINT WORK SESSICW
ADJOURNMENT - 11:15 P.M.