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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-27-1978 Planning Minutesi r ■ V'H I AGENDA W PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF NOVEMBER 27, 1978 COUNCIL CHAMBERS - 7:30 P.M. CALL TO ORDER 1. Call to Order/Roll 2. Comprehensive Planning Comments PUBLIC HEARING - 7:30 P.M. 3. #444 Hennepin County Park Reserve District, Big Island STREET VACATIONS ACTION ITEMS 4. #429 John Noble, 1185 Femdale CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT & VARIANCE 5, #438 Paul C. Clabo, 1388 Park Drive VARIANCE 6. #441 John 0. Loughlin, 4215 Forest Lake Drive VARIANCE 7. #445 Patrick Baxter, 4120 Oak Street VARIANCE 8. #446 John Worre, 1270 Arbor Street VARIANCE SKETCH PLAN REVIEN 9. #431 Gerald P. Mills, 1600 Shoreline DrAve SUBDIVISION 10. #440 Louis B. Oberhauser, 200 Wayzata Boulevard SUBDIVISION 11* #442 Donald Scott, 2325 Longview Circle SUBDIVISION 12. #443 Robert Olson, 4665 Bayside Road SUBDIVISION APPROVAL OF MINUTES f' 1 13. Meeting of Novenber 13, 1978 MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Planning Coranisslon met on the above date. The following members were present: Chairman Hassel, Hurr, McDonald, Hannah, Frahm and Hammer el, Mabusth represented the City staff. Mayor Van Nest was also present. ATTENDANCE 7:30 P.M. Mabusth stated that she had the Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing. Gregg Mack represented the Park Reserve District. He presented a map on the Park Reserve *s plan for parks on Big Island and their recent decision as to park boundary locations. He stated that the purpose of the street vacations was to create a bulldable lot to use In exchange for another piece of property which the Park Reserve wants to obtain. This property, located on the east Island next to the veteran*s camp. Is a connecting link between two pieces of park property, Denny Kllbane, part owner of this parcel, was present. Discussion ensued reg rdlng replattlng that would put all of the public right-of-way Into a strip along the west edge of the lot rather than vacating any right-of-way. Hurr moved to table this Item pending further direction and rationale on public benefits derived by vacating public rl^t of way. They also requested calculation of area of public land within the platted lots and suggested that this be siibmltted as a replattlng. Motion seconded by Hammerel. Vote: Ayes (6), Nays (0). Motion passed unanimously. HENNEPIN COUNTY PARK RESERVE DISTRICT Street Vacations Big Island PUBLIC HEARING 7:37 P.M. - 7:50 P.M. (#444) The Nobles were represented by Robert Hoffman. Mr, and Mrs. Noble and Mr. Charles Alexander were present, ^^o revised plans were presented. Mr, Hoffman stated that the driveway to the east of the lot was formerly County Road 15 (this was also verified by a neighbor to the west of Noble). Previous variance applications (McDonald #361 & Rovlck #77) were also discussed. Mr. Hoffman stated that the pond was originally wetland and was then filled because It was unstable. He also stated that neighbors on both sides would rather have the house closer to the lake so they would not have to look Into their pool. JOHN NOBLE 1185 Femdale CONDITIONAL USE PERMI! VARIANCES (#429) • ♦ # 0 MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 27. 1978 . Page 2 ^ ■| Planning Commission noted the nimiber of variances r^uested, that many were severe variances, and that the house plans were too ambitious for the lot. Hassel moved to deny the application as no hardship was established, too many extreme variances were requested, and the amount of hardcover was too ^cessive for the lot. Motion seconded by Frahm. D^ing discussion, Hassel Informed the Nobles that they could submit revised plans rather than have their present proposal denied, however, they preferred to have a decision and go to Council as soon as possible. Vote: Ayes (6), Nays (0). Motion passed unanimously. to. Cld>o was present. Discussion concerned the location of the access and the possible driveway cut. Cy Lane, 1376 Park Drive, stated that all other houses in the area are on combined lots and that previously a larger lot than this proposed lot was denied. Wayne Holmes, 1390 Park Drive opposed the variance as he did not want a house built on this lot as he would feel ’’packed in”. ^ahm moved to approve the variance as no other land is available and there was previously a house on this lot which was assessed and hooked up to sewer, conditioned upon no further setback variances being granted for construction of the house. Motion seconded by Hurr. Vote: Ayes (4) Hannah were opposed as they felt the lot was ’’decidedly too small” to support a single dwelling. to. ^ughlin was present. After reviewing the plans the Planning Comnission noted that the proposed addition was in keeping with the neighborhood. Hardship was the existing house location on the lot. Hannah moved to approve the variance due to the hardship of the house location conditioned upon the addition not encroaching the 75* lakeshore setback. Motion seconded by Frahm. Vote: Aves ^6^ # Nays (0). Motion passed unLimously. JOHN NOBLE 1185 Ferndale CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT VARIANCES (Cent.) (#429) c i 1 ft "r PAUL C. CLABO 1388 Park Drive VARIANCE (#438) : (1 ' II! ' li JOHN LOUGHLIN 4215 Forest Lake Drive VARIANCE (#441) ma^ m # MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ^LD ON NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Page 3 Mr, Baxter was present. Applicant is requesting a 35* right yard setback and a 10* left side yard setback as well as a lot area and width variance. Discussion mostly concerned staff's request that he reverse the side yard setbacks. Mr, Baxter stated that although he would go along with- the request, the topography of the lot made if more feasible to build the proposed house as his plans indicated. Hannah moved to approve the variances, as originally aivvl tted, as the sitviation is improved by the combining of four drastically substandard lots into one building site due to the hardship of no other land being available and the topography of the lot, conditioned upon the combination of the lots. Motion seconded by Hammerel. Vote: Ayes (6), Nays (0). Motion passed unanimously. PATRICK BAXTER 4120 Oak Street VARIANCE (#445) Mr« Worre was present. Also present were his neighbors to the south and across the street. The request was for a 7* front yard setback and a 10* side yard setback. Mr. Worre stated he was now requesting a 10* front yard setback instead of the 7* previously requested. Some questions were regarding the height of the building, numbers of zoosns proposed and their proposed uses. It was stated that the existing garage would be kept. Neighbors noted that there was a 4* X 6* shed also located on the property. The main concern of the neighbors was that they did not want the addition so close to the south lot line as the neighboring house is only 8* from the jnroperty line and the proposed building would create a distance of 28* between the houses. Neighbors across the street felt that the neighborhood was more "open” than adjacent areas of Crystal Bay and was perhaps the only area with those distinctive qualities - they would prefer to keep this "openness". Planning Commission also questioned the size of the addition wondering if ^ would be feasible to make it smaller thereby increasing the distances between the houses. Mr. Worre stated that the size of the addition was because of a landing and rtairs that would be needed to get to the addition. It would also be used for a breezeway and an access to the back yard*. JOHN WORRE 1270 Arbor Street VARIANCE (#446) % O 1( • » • V MINUTES OF A PLAMJING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Page 4 Planning Comnlsslon asked Mf« Worre to consider making the breezeway smaller and requested a survey showing "all structures" on the lot. Hurr moved to table this Item pending submittal oT elevations for the addition from the applicant and to give him time to consider reducing the size of the addition. Motion seconded by Hammerel. Vote: Ayes (6), Nays (0), Motion passed unanimously. JOHN WORRE 1270 Arbor Street VARIANCE (#446) Cont. Sketch Plan Review - Mr. Mills and Mr. were present. Mabusth presented the revised plan. The following comments were made: 1. The 50* private road easement Is not designated on the plan. area allowance should be reconsidered with the exclusion of the driveway easement. 3. Existing Buildings: Lot 3 (existing cottage and garage) At this time the applicant did not know what would be done with these buildings. lx)t 4 (existing house) this Is shown on two lots. Lot line should be moved so It Is only shown on Lot 4. Public Information Meeting has been scheduled for Deceniber 11, 1978, Applicant was Instructed to contact staff for the required Information needed for that meeting. Mr, Oberhauser was present. This request concerns land In Orono and Wayzata. It was noted that the land In Wayzata Is now 2 acres Instead of 4 acres as originally submitted. Wayzata will first address this application at their December meeting. Applicant stated: 1, He has talked to the highway department and they have agreed to the access on old Highway 12. Talked with Wayzata and has made arrangements for sewer for this property. 3. The location of these condominium units across the city borderline was due to the topography as there Is a large bluff area In both cities and to be useful and bulldable the whole lot would have to be used. It also gives a beautiful view of the 8®^^ course and marsh which enhances the property values, P. GERALD MILLS 1600 Shoreline Drive SUBDIVISION (#431) I LOUIS B. OBERHAUSER 200 Wayzata Boulevard SUBDIVISION, REZOMING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT & VARIANCE (#440) • 9 " 2:4: e minutes of a planning commission meeting held on nov;MCI Planning Commission made the following conments- 1. Requested marshland be designated on the drawings. How much of the 8 acres is dry buildable? 2. Commented that when a development is golne to be sewered a credit would be given for the wetlands in determining the number of units allowed. 3. Possibility of a new amendment to the code to allow attached dwellings in a PRD development in a one-acre zone. This may be a possible, feasible and/or a better idea than granting a variance. * 4. Requested information on sewer capacity of the Wayzata system to determine future potential. 5. Advised applicant to contact staff if he wished to continue with the appiic.ation. 5ER 27, 1978 Page 5 Scott was present. No problems with the proposed plat, Mike Gaffron, septic system inspector, advised for, Scott that additional soil testing would be required to determine water table. Mr. Scott agreed staff to complete this requirement, A Information Meeting scheduled for 1-8-79, Mr, Olson was present. Mabusth noted that the proposed division line is within 7* of the existing pole bam and that possibly the division line should be moved to comply with the 10* required setback for accessory structures. Planning Commission requested revised drawings showing the lot line realignment and the compliance with the two acre minimum lot area for'^1^^^78* Information Meeting scheduled ^rrections: Page 4, James Bloemendahl, Paragraph 2 ADD to the motion: DNR is responsible for policing the park. Page 5, Fred Her fur th, DELETE: *'This density ratio which must be a minimum or 1/2 acre per unit.*' Hassel moved to accept the Minutes as corrected. Motion seconded by Hammerel and passed unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 11:30 P.M. LOUIS OBERHAUSER 200 Wayzata Boulevarc SUBDIVISION, REZONINC CONDITIONAL USE PERMl & VARIANCE (#440) Cont. DONALD SCOTT 2325 Longview Circle SUBDIVISION (#442) ROBERT OLSON 4665 Bayside Road SUBDIVISION (#443) APPROVAL OF MINUTES Novend>er 13, 1978 ADJOURNMENT