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planning commission meeting of august 14, 1978
COUNCIL CHAMBERS - 7:30 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
1, Call to Order & Roll Call
PUBLIC INFORMATION ITEMS
2 7*30 P.M. #414 Subdivision - A.J.z. /.w r.n. IT Shoreline Drive
ACTION ITEMS
3.#356
4.#372
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5.#399
6.#413
Karl Gardner, 2885 6th Avenue North
FINAL PLAT
Lloyd S. Kelley, 85 South Brown Road
FINAL PLAT
Michael Plank, 4145 Watertown Road
VARIANCE
Walter Wolfe, 1250 Spruce Place
VARIANCE
WORK SESSION
7, #415 - Lowell Zltxloff, 3502 Shoreline Drive
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
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8. #416 - West Shore Lafayette Bay Association
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
9. Meeting of July 24, 1978
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MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 14, 1978
The Orono Planning Coinnlsslon met on the above date.
Present were Chairman Hassel, Hurr, McDonald and
Wilson. Alan Olson represented the City staff.
Hassel annovmced this was the time and place for a
Public Information Meeting on A. J. Tourangeau's
subdivision request. Olson stated he had the
Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing.
Mr. Tourangeau and Mr. Robert Reuttman (lessee of the
service station) were present. No public conanents
were heard. The Planning Commission reviewed the
existing situation with two buildings on common lots
and the proposed lot line rearrangements to create
separate parcel Identities. It was noted that
service stations are conditional uses In the B-1 zone,
that this station has been existing and operating for
many years, but that there was never any formal
conditional use permit or application on file.
Parking was discussed noting that the code calls for
seven (7) spaces for this station. Mr. Reuttman
noted that the station only has "parking problems"
when the marina customers use the property on the
weekends. He stated that the marina (Paul's Landing)
does not have any authorization from him to use this
property for marina parking.
Staff has reviewed the septic systems and although
they are substandard they are functioning and are
acceptable to the staff.
Olson presented into the record a letter from the
Hennepin County Department of Transportation stating
their requirements and recommendations. Mr. Reuttman
was agreeable to the County requirements for curb cuts
and driveway controls; agreeable to providing a
landscaping plan and Improvements, and agreeable to
the building code requirements to brick closed the
one station window.
ATTENDANCE
7:30 P.M.
A.J. TOURANGEAU
1960 Shoreline Drive
SUBDIVISION
Public Info. Meeting
7:30 P.M. - 7:45 P.M.
(/M14)
There was discussion concerning the existing zoning and
In regards to the lakeshore parcel. All parties agreed
that a zoning boundary change is desirable. It was
noted that the station's fuel tanks are located under
Lot 26 the residentially zoned comer lot.
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Wilson moved to approve the preliminary plat as
requested with the following conditions:
1. A formal application be made for a condi
tional use permit per 35.022 for operation of
the "motor fuel station". This permit to set
out in writing all landscaping, curb cut,
parking, etc. conditions per 38.500.
2. A formal application be made for a rezonlng
to revise the existing district boundaries to
coincide with the proposed lot division; all of
Lot 1 to be RR-IB and all of Lot 2 to be B-1,
such rezoning to be pursuant to all required
reviews and hearings and to be effective only
upon recording of an approved final plat.
3. Concurrence with the Hennepin County Dept,
of Transportation requirement to close access
to County Road 15 except for one commercial
driveway approximately 120 ft. north of Central
Avenue.
4. Applicant to provide a landscaping plan and
schedule of completion for review with the condi
tional use permit prior to final plat approval.
5. Combination of the remaining Tourangeau
residential lots (7-14 & 20) for tax purposes.
6. Closing of the rear station window per State
Building Code requirements.
A.J. TOURANGEAU
1960 Shoreline Drive
SUBDIVISION
(VA414) Continued
7. Approval of all variances necessary to accomplish
the above finding hardships of no additional land
available and existing structure locations.
^fotlon was seconded by Hurr. Vo*;e: Ayes (4), Nays (0),
motion passed unanimously.
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Mr. Gardner was present. Olson stated that all
requirements have been met and the staff now
recommends approval.
NOTE: Wilson raised some legal concerns regarding
the format of our resolutions for plat approval
and wondered If staff should Investigate a more
efficient method to ensure proper recording of
required documents. Olson stated this was an
interim problem and what the City attorney intends
to do in the adoption of the ordinance is to have
the City, in the presence of the applicant, do
the recording.
Hassel moved to approve the final plat in accordance
with the attached resolution. Motion seconded by
Wilson. Vote: Ayes (4), Nays (0). Motion
passed unanimously.
Mr. Kelley was present. Olson stated that the
preliminary plat has been returned in the final
form and all technical requirements have been met.
Hurr recommended approval of the final plat in
accordance with the attached resolution. Motion
seconded by McDonald. Vote; Ayes (4), Nays (0),
motion passed unanimously.
KARL GARDNER
2885 Sixth Ave, No.
FINAL PLAT
(#356)
LLOYD S. KELLEY
85 South Brown Road
FINAL PLAT
(#372)
Mr. Plank was present. The preliminary plat was
approved at the last Planning Commission meeting.
The location of the septic system was discussed
in great lengths. Planning Commission was very
concerned with having to issue a setback variance
on a 5-acre lot particularly when the lot is newly
subdivided. After a couple of unsuccessful motions
and considerable discussion regarding the physical
problems and alternative solutions, Hassel moved
to approve the variance in that the hardship appears
to be contour and configuration of the land and
wetlands and the designated site for the septic system.
It was felt that because of slope of the ground and low
areas on the lot, there would be drainage problems,
access problems (driveway grade) and possible drainfield
operation problems if the house was moved 25 ft. further
from the road which would justify this variance. Motion
was seconded by Wilson. Vote: Ayes (4), Nays (0).
Motion passed unanimously.
MICHAEL PLANK
4145 Watertown Road
VARIANCE
(#399)
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Walter Wolfe Jr. and Mrs. Walter Wolfe Sr, were
present. No public comnents were heard.
Planning Conmlsslon discussed the proposal
and existing situation. It was noted that
there was quite a bit of equipment, machines,
auto parts, etc. as well as an old boat and
a vehicle with out-of-date license tabs on
the property. The Wolfes said these Items
would be stored In the new garage. Hurr
moved to approve the 84% variance for the
garage finding the hardship as the location
of the existing foundation and driveway
access, with the condition that the garage
be a single story, used only for residential
accessory use and that all debris, equipment,
etc. be stored Inside upon completion.
Motion seconded by Hassel. Vote: Ayes (4),
Nays (0). Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Zltzloff and Mr. McCharles, building owner,
were present. Mr. Zltzloff explained the
operation of his business. Planning Commission
discussed major concerns with traffic and parking
and Indicated that some curb cut work will be
required as a condition of approval. Mr. Zltzloff
is to return with a site plan showing parking,
access. Intended landscaping plus a floor plan
showing the store itself regarding retail/wholesale
floor space divisions.
Dewey Lindsay (dredge operator) and Mr. Hannah
(property owner) were present. Other owners
Mr. Hepp and Mr. Morris have supplied written
approval of the proposal.
WALTER WOLFE
1250 Spruce Place
VARIANCE
(#413)
LOWELL ZITZLOFF
3502 Shoreline Drive
COND. USE PERMIT
(#415)
WORK SESSION ITEM
WEST SHORE LAFAYETTE
BAY ASSOCIATION
Conditional Use Permit
(#416)
WORK SESSION ITEM
Mr. Lindsay noted that he does not intend to dredge
the channel but only the lagoon Itself. He said
the DNR has tenatlvely approved expansion of the
other permit to include this work and that the MCWD
will review the application on August 17, 1978.
They requested Immediate action because approval
would allow work to continue while the dredge is in
the vicinity while delay would make the project
unfeasible. Proposal is for esthetic Improvement
only and not for riparian access. Mr, Hannah Intends
to keep the bridge In place and to place an aerator
In the lagoon during the summer.
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Planning Conmlsslon was concerned with Hannah's
house construction and the excavated material
being left near the lagoon. Planning Conmission
was also concerned whether dredging for esthetic
purposes was reasonable or not. They were concerned
that FWBI had not supplied any test reports on the
existing project. After lengthy discussion and
several motions Wilson moved and Hassel seconded
to take action at work session and to pass cn to
the council a recommendation for approval of the
request to dredge the lagoon with the suction dredge
as an extension of the West Shore Lafayette Bay Assn,
permit finding that the proposal was beneficial to
the landowners with no adverse effects upon the
environment (due to the existing disposal system);
finding that this is for esthetic purposes and not
for riparian access; finding that the lagoon will
be dredged to remove muck down to elevation MSL 924 +
and that the channel will not be dredged; finding that
the lagoon is not a docking area; all on the condition
that the FWBI submit to the City all test reports
required by Resolution 913 and that those reports show
that such dredging is not detrimental to the lake.
Vote: Ayes (2), Nays (2) - McDonald and Hurr voted
against the motion because there were no FWBI reports
available to review, because action was requested at
the work session, and (McDonald) because of existing
erosion from Hannah excavation into this lagoon has
not been controlled.
WEST SHORE LAFAYETTE
BAY ASSOCIATION
Conditional Use Permit
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WORK SESSION ITEM
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Minutes were approved as submitted.APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Meeting of 7/24/78
Hassel and members present dlscusred the joint
meeting held on Thursday, August 10, 1978 and
found such a meeting very beneficial. Regarding
the joint planning committee, all members present
expressed desire to serve. It was decided that
Chairman Hassel would confer with the absent members
regarding the committee and that final choice of
Planning Commission members would be made on or before
the August 26, 1978 Joint meeting.
APPOINTMENT OF TWO
MEMBERS TO JOINT
PC/C PLANNING
COMMITTEE
Meeting adjourned at 10:30 P.M.ADJOURNMENT