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t>LANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 24, 1978
COUNCIL CHAMBERS - 7:30 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
1. Call to Order & Roll Call
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PUBLIC INFORMATION ITEMS
•7:30 P.M.#306 - Subdivision -
•7:45 P.M.#399 - Subdivision -
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•8:00 P.M.#408 - Subdivision -
Colpepper Land Cc
40 Orono Orchard
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4145 Watertown Road
4605 Watertown Road
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ACTION ITEMS
5. #407 -John Proegler, 2208
VARIANCE
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SKETCH PLAN REVIEW
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6. #410 - Popov/Pols son, 4080/4010 Bayslde Road
SUBDIVISION
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7. #412 - Hrs. Roy Hollander, 255 SUreh Avenue Nbrth
SUBDIVISION
WORK SESSION
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8. #394 - Edward Mahoney, 2760 Pheasant Road
SUBDIVISION
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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9. Meeting of July 10, 1978 . e
MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON JULY 24, 1978
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Ihe Orono Planning Coimnlsslon met on the above
date. Present were: Chairman Hassel, Hurr,
McDonald, Wilson, Hannah, Frahm and Hammerel.
Alan Olson represented the City staff.
ATTENDANCE
7:30 P.M.
Hassel announced this was the time and place
for a Public Information Meeting on this
subdivision request. Olson stated he had the
Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of
Mailing. Mr. Neslund and ^h:. Knutson, the
engineer, were present. No public in attendance.
There was discussion regarding Lot 2 only
containing 1.7 acres versus the required 2 acres.
It was stated that the average dry area for the
entire division exceeds two acres and lot lines
are on natural features. Hurr questioned the
amount of wetlands on Lot 12 and was informed
by Mr. Knutson that there were no designated
wetlands on Lots 10-12. All lots would be served
by a private road with a cul-de-sac. Due to
negative response from the Planning Commission at
the Sketch Plan Review, the hiking path has been
omitted. During discussion it was also noted
that Jim Olson's letter on file raised questions
in regards to an earlier plan which has now been
changed to the current proposal.
COLPEPPER LAND CO.
40 Orono Orchard Rd.
SUBDIVISION
PUBLIC INFO. MTG.
(#306)
7:30 P.M. - 7:42 P.M.
Hassel moved to approve the preliminary subdivision
in the form submitted, and for the record, a variance
to'the 2-acre dry buildable area be granted for Lot 2
because the overall density of dry buildable in the
subdivision exceeds the 2-acre requirement and there
is a natural drainage pattern that flows on the
proposed division line between Lots 2 & 3 causing a
topographical hardship, approval subject to:
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The new road be a private road with underlying
easement to the City.
Septic testing on each lot meet City approval
prior to final plat approval.
Conservation easement over the wetlands.
Drainage easements where necessary.
Payment of park dedication fee.
Developer's Agreement prior to road construction.
® Motion seconded by Hurr. Vote: Ayes (7), Nays
Motion passed unanimously.
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Hassel announced this was the time and place for
a Public Information Meeting on the subdivision
request by Michael Plank. Alan Olson stated
the request and noted he had the Affidavit of
Publication and Certificate of Mailing. Mr. Plank
was present as well as a neighbor, Mr. Sawchiik.
Mr. Sawchiik had coinments regarding the drainage,
but did not object to the current proposal.
Alan Olson stated that both lots meet the zoning
requirements of the RR-IA zone and that staff
had no problems with this subdivision as proposed.
He also stated that a variance for the new building
site has been requested becc;:uu? of topographical
conditions.
MICHAEL PLANK
4145 Watertown Rd.
. SUBDIVISION
PUBLIC INFO. MTG,
(#399)
7:45 P.M. - 8:10 P.M.
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After discussion, Hurr moved to defer action on
the variance requesting a more detailed survey
and plan for the proposed house. Motion was
seconded by Hannah and passed unanimously.
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Frahm moved to approve the subdivision contingent
upon payment of park dedication fee, conservation
and drainage easements, and dedication of Watertown
Road right of way. Motion seconded by Hannah.
Vote: Ayes (7), Nays (0). Motion passed unanimously.
Hassel announced this was the time and place for
a Public Information Meeting on this subdivision
request. Alan Olson stated he had the Affidavit
of Publication and Certificate of Mailing.
Mr. McCulley was present but no public were in
attendance. Alan Olson stated that all lots
meet the zoning requirements except for the
"existing" one-acre lot. All lots, including
this one-acre lot, average Just over five acres.
All new lots will have access by a new private
road with cul-de*^sac. Lots 1 and 2 will require
an easement declaration for the existing access.
There are septic problems with the existing rental
houses that must be resolved at once. McCulley
stated that he had talked with Mike Gaffron, the
Septic System Inspector, and was working on a
solution to the problem. There was discussion
reg«»rding the many large farm buildings on the
property and their possible uses within the
proposed development.
GRAYDON MCCULLEY
4605 Watertown Rd.
SUBDIVISION
PUBLIC INFO. MTG.
(#408)
8:25 P.M. - 8:40 P.M.
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Alan Olson stated that his recommendation would
to Increase the one-acre lot to two acres
minimum for unsewered property either by reducing
an adjacent lot or by omitting one lot.
Hannah moved to approve the subdivision as
submitted, subject to the following: pa}nnent
of park dedication fee. private road with
easement to the City, dedication of Watertown
right-of-way, drainage easement over the creek,
typical drainage and utility easements, variance
for Lot 2, Block 1, providing approved septic
system repairs can be made within this lot
(Including primary and alternate site), and that
notice be given that existing farm buildings
are to be used only for approved residential
accessory building uses. Motion seconded by
Hanmerel. Vote: Ayes (5), Nays (2), Motion
passed.
GRAYDON MCCULLEY
4605 Watertown Rd.
SUBDIVISION
PUBLIC INFO. MTG.
(#408)
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(Frahm and Wilson felt that no hardship was shown
for the lot area variance when so much adjacent
land Is available especially when conqpounded by
existing septic system problems.)
Mr, Proegler was present. No public in attendance.
Discussion was regarding encroaching on the drip
line of trees. Hurr felt that the proposed location
would possibly encroach upon the neighbor's trees.
Frahm also questioned having two garages (both with
variances) on the property. Mr. Proegler
felt that he would lose his grape vines as well as
storage space and therefore wanted to keep the
existing garage. A tum-aroimd area has been
provided as a safety factor.
JOHN PROEGLER
2208 Shadywood Rd.
VARIANCE
(#407)
Wilson moved to approve this variance as requested,
15 ft. front setback and 3 ft. side setback, on the
finding that the proposed variance Is consistent
'^l-th the general use of the area and the hardship
being the encroaching of the drip line of the trees.
Hammerel seconded the motion. Vote: Ayes (6),
(!)• Notion passed.
(Hurr objected to a 70X variance to side yard setback
allowed on both sides - Infringement on both neighbors.)
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Ttiis item was reviewed as a Sketch Plan Review.
Both Mr. Popov and Mr. Poisson were present,
but only Mr. Poisson made any comments. Ihe
Planning Commission noted that the area was not
staked and the members had difficulty orientating
themselves to the proposal. Major concern was
the drainageway and how the access easement would
affect it. Staff also stated they would need more
detailed topographical data before the engineer
could review the easement proposal and that soil
testing would have to be done on the back parcel.
This subdivision will also require formal platting.
Staff will review the Filbrandt property before
preliminary review.
A Public Information Meeting will be scheduled for
August 28, 1978.
This item was reviewed as a Sketch Plan Review.
Mrs. Hollander and Mr. Knutson, the engineer,
were present. They presented a new map showing
Lot 3 as having two acres dry buildable instead
of the 1.7 acres previously submitted. The
current proposal is to do the division in two
phases;
Phase I - West parcel to be divided into eight
lots plus a remaining outlot.
Phase II - East parcel plus the Phase I outlot
be divided into seven lots to complete
the division.
Discussion included the desire for a private road
with no direct access on County Road 6, a temporary
cul-de-sac and an easement to the City of the
continuation of the proposed road through the east
parcel. Mrs. Hollander proposed that the existing
rental house would eventually be included in with
her lot and used as a guest house.
McDonald corrected the Minutes as follows: Page 1,
Paragraph 2 - Vote should read: Ayes (3), Abstained
(1) Wilson^ motion passed.
Hannah moved to approve the Minutes as corrected.
Motion seconded by McDonald and passed unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:30 P.M.
POPOV/POISSON
4080/4010 Bayside Rd,
SUBDIVISION
(15^410)
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MRS. ROY HOIXANDER
255 Sixth Ave. No.
SUBDIVISKm
(#412)
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CORRECTION TO THE
MINUTES OF
JULY 10, 1978 MTG.