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AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF APRIL 24, 1978
COUNCIL CHAMBERS - 7:30 P.M.
I. CURRENT ITEMS
A. Action Items
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
Call to Order
Roll Call
#360 - Public Hearing - 7:30 p.m. - Subdivision
780 Old Crystal Bay Rd. So, - Joe Whitney
#363 - Public Hearing - 7:45 p.m. - Subdivision
2400 6th Ave, N, - American Rebuilders
#368 - Walter Wittmer, 1420 Baldur Park Rd,
Variance
#371 - Richard Konerza, 245 Tonka Ave,
Variance
Minutes of Regular Meetings of March 13, 1978
B, Sketch Plan Items
1, #367
2, #380
Jergen Stielow, 565 Leaf St,
Subdivision - Preliminary
Philip Rusciano, 2340 S. Watertown Rd,
Subdivision
C. Work Session Items
1.
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7.
8.
9.
#373
#374
#375
#376
#377
#378
#379
#381
#382
Dennis Holmquist, 135 Tumham Rd.
Variance
John Perkins, 1265 Elmwood
Variance
Timothy Gagner, 740 Tonkawa
Variance
Hennepin Co,-Vo, Tech,, 2940 6th Ave,
Conditional Use
John Swanson, 2785 Casco Pt. Rd,
Conditional Use
Blke/Hlke Trail, Baker Park Reserve
Wetlands Variance
Edward T, Johnson, 1340 North Arm Dr.
Subdivision
Jack Safar, 925 Partenwood Rd,
Subdivision
David Butler, 4685 No. Shore Dr.
Variance
II. INCOMPLETE ITEMS
1. #364 - New Horizons, 2380 Shadywood
2, #366 - Wm. Taylor, 2227-29 Shadywood
Conditional Use
- Subdivision
MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 24, 1978
wai™n Hassel. Conmiissloner Hurr was absent.
present in place of Hank
Munich, Zoning Administrator, who was ill.
attendance
7:30 P.M.
Chairman Hassel announced this was the time and
place for a Public Information Meeting on the
petition of Joseph Whitney. The City Planner
Notice of Public Meeting and the
Affidavit of Publication. Mr. Whitney was
present as well as the following neighbors:
^eve Raster, Denny Kumlin, and Joe Wiswell.
The plats, dated 3-17-78, were reviewed. It was
noted that they consisted of 7 lots all exceeding
the minimum 2-acre, 200* width requirement. Ihe
neighbors questions were in regard to the existing
niiriS the location of homesites
ditches, as well as the location of the
ulldlng on Lot #3 which is an odd shape. Jim Olson,
lira's'"®® present and he noted that he had
A^ recommended preliminary approval.
record the County
Highway Engineer s recommendations concerning the
1oo!m wherein a possible alternate access
location along the north property line would provide
**^®tances than the proposed location,
Th! proposed location would be acceptable.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:47 P.M. There
was tother discussion as to the recoimnendatiorof
not Highway Engineer and regarding whether or
rlL^ I r® buildable. The Planning Commission
recomended approval of the preliminary plat subject
to the following items: plating of the road and^
drainage easements as outlets; completion of a develooers
greement for the road and drainage construction; removal
of fisting driveway when the new road is created- com
pletion of septic system testing prior to final plat
no^ri’ dedication fee, and orter
Motion by Hannah, seconded by Hammerel, mot^n carried unanimously. ^
PUBLIC HEARING
7:30 P.M.
JOSEPH WHITNEY
780 Old Crystal Bay
SUBDIVISION
(#360)
MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 24, 1978
Chairman Hassel announced this was the time and
place for a Public Hearing on the petition of
American Rebullders. The City Planner presented
the Notice of Public Meeting and the Affidavit of
Publication. The applicant Mr, Herfurth was
present as well as the following neighbors: Fred
Keller and Jack Rosengren, a representative for
Elmer Ties. A1 Olson read into the record a
recommendation of the County Engineer regarding
access and right-of-way on this property -
Basically, the County would request an additional
10' of right-of-way along County Rd. 6 as has
been standard procedure along this highway and
that no more than two new access points to County
Rd. 6 be granted. This last request would require
at least one common access point along the three
lots abutting County Rd. 6. The Public Hearing
was closed at 7:58 P.M. Most of the Planning
Coninlsslon discussion centered on the Highway
Department's recommendation - they were not
ready to limit access to two access points until
the staff had reviewed it further. Jim Olson,
city engineer, noted for the record that Lots 2, 3,
and 4 were Just under 4 acres each and that due to
the 2-acre zoning requirement they would not be
further subdlvldable. The Planning Commission
thereafter reconmended approval of the preliminary
plat as shown on the drawings dated 2-9-78, subject
to septic system testing prior to final plat approval,
park dedication fee payment, conservation and flowage
easements over the wetlands, and to the 10' additional
right-of-way dedication along County Rd. 6 as shown
on the preliminary drawings. Motion by Frahm,
seconded by Hammerel, Ayes (6), Nays (0), motion
carried.
Mr. Wlttmer was present. It was noted that a letter
had been received from Mr. Wlttmer revising the
application. Frahm moved, Hassel seconded approval
of the variance contingent upon maintaining the
steps and omitting the deck. Motion, Ayes (6),
Nays (0), motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING
7:51 P.M.
(FRED HERFURTH)
SUBDIVISION
2400 6th Avenue No,
(#363)
WALTER WITTMER
1420 Baldur Park Rd.
VARIANCE
(#368)
MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 24, 1978
Mr. and Ifrs. Konerza were present. They advised
the Planning Connnlsslon that due to rain they
could not provide septic testing and requested
tabling of the variance application.
McDonald moved and Hammerel seconded to table
this Item. Motion: Ayes (6), Nays (0), motion
carried.
McDonald moved and Hannah seconded approval of
the minutes of the March 13, 1978 Planning
CouHnlsslon meeting. Motion: Ayes (6), Nays (0),
motion carried.
Mr. Stlelow was present at this meeting. The
fl^^mlng Commission reviewed a revised plan
datwd April 20, 1978 which appeared to resolve
all previous problems. The County access
requirements are satisfactory with revised plat.
AI Olson noted that the access for Lots 10 & 11,
Block 1, should be a joint access on the common
property line rather than separate access points.
It should also be noted that this plat shows Outlot
A the Island lying to the southwest corner of the
property. This outlot Is mostly marsh land and Is
not separately bulldable. It Is meant to be owned
by Lots 5 or 6 or perhaps a combination of those
two lots. Hannah moved and Hammerel seconded
approval of the preliminary sketch plan subject to
receipt of engineering details of the road profile
and grade and septic system testing Information.
Mr. Stlelow was Informed that a public Information
meeting would be scheduled to review the preliminary
plat.
The sketch plan of Philip Rusclano was tabled as
the applicant was not present. McDonald moved,
Hannah seconded, motion carried.
RICHARD KONERZA
245 Tonka Avenue
VARIANCE
(#371)
MINUTES
March 13, 1978
JURGEN STIELOW
565 Leaf Street
SUBDIVISION
(#367)
PHILIP RUSCIANO
2340 Watertown Rd.
SUBDIVISION
(#380)
MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 24, 1978
WORK SESSION ITEMS
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opinion or decision
without having specific facts. Hie applicant has the
property for sale and intends to sell it. The Cit^
does not have any septic system information. Jim
Olson, the cxty engineer, discussed the situation
and was concerned about the unimproved road to the
property and the lack of documented easements to the
property. Staff recommended that no action be taken
to applicant provides enough informationto thoroughly review the application.
DENNIS HOLMQUIST
135 Tumham Rd.
VARIANCE
(#373)
Planning Commission reviewed item in Wodc Session.JOHN PERKINS
1265 Elmwood
VARIANCE
(#374)
SsSlOT* -reviewed this Item In Work TIM GAGNER
740 Tonkawa Rd.
VARIANCE
(#375)
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MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 24, 1978
Mr. Jim Nossback was present. Considering that
there were no complaints and this request is
identical to that made previously, Hannah moved
and McDonald seconded approval subject to the
same conditions as last year, subject to renewal
in 1979, Motion: Ayes (6), Nays (0), motion
carried.
^h^. Swanson was present and explained his application
that would Include the creation of two new apartments
off an existing house, a mother-in-law apartment in
the basement of the house, and a separate apartment
over an attached double garage for his parents to
live in for a part of the year. Each apartment
as well as the house would have separate kitchen
and bath facilities so you would in effect have a
triplex if his proposal is approved. The Planning
Commission was concerned with the effect of building
an apartment unit in a single family zoning district,
and noted that the guest house requirements would
require a lot size variance because each separate
guest house by the ordinance is required to have all
the requirements of a single family house on each lot.
In this case, the lot is large enough for one unit
not three. Dick Hassel recommended review of the
plans and redesign to accommodate the guests without
separate facilities or separate entrances. Gregg
Hannah also suggested separate wings would be alright
if the access was through the house and not from an
outside access. The Planning Commission suggested
that if the house was redesigned to allow for this,
a conditional use permit may not even be necessary
and only an addition would have to be considered for
the hoiise.
HENNEPIN CTY
VO-TECH
2950 6th Avenue No.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
(#376)
JOHN SWANSON
2785 Casco Pt. Rd.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
(#377)
Tim Marr and Alex Mayer were present. They went
through the materials and explained to the Commission
the extent of what was requested and the reasons for
it. They show a total of 7.1 mile tiail around the
entire park including a 1,2 mile section of trail
within the City of Orono. The trail would be asphalt
surfaced except through the fill area we are discussing
which would include a crushed limestone surface across
the marsh. This has been before the Park Commission
and approved by them on April 4, 1978. The Planning
Commission was interested in having all members completely
review the facts and had a question as to how much of
the marsh would be filled by this proposal.
BIKE/HIKE TRAIL
HENN. CTT PARK
RESERVE
WETLANDS VAR.
MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 24, 1978
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Planning Conunlsslon reviewed proposal and the
circumstances of prior approval as outlined
by staff. A public information meeting was
scheduled for May 22, 1978.
EDWARD T. JOHNSTON
1340 No. Arm Dr.
SUBDIVISION
(#379)
Mr. Safar and Mr. George Johnson were present.
Mr. Johnson went through an explanation of the
creation of this outlot along with the creation
of the other lots within the Partenwood Subdivision
noting that there were thirteen one-acre sites in
a total area of 24 acres, eleven of those sites
are actually riparian with two lots Inland. Those
two lots being the subject of this variance. Outlot
A which is where the dock is requested to be placed
is now owned in fee by Mr. Johnson because he is
also the fee owner of Lots 1 & 2, Block 3. Lots 1
and 2 each have a 1/2 undivided interest in Outlot A.
Mr. Johnson argued against imposing higher restrictions
today than those imposed when the lot was plated.
Brad Van Nest noted that the City would consider
granting a variance to build a dock under the current
dock regulations, l.e. that the dock be no mere than
100' long and that no more than two countable boats
be placed at the dock at any one time, and also that
IMCD Multiple Dock License would be required due to
the dock location on an outlot.
JACK SAFAR
925 Partenwood Rd,
VARIANCE
(#381)
Planning Commission reviewed this item in work
session.
DAVID BUTLER
4685 North Shore Dr,
VARIANCE
(#382)
Meeting adjourned.