HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-03-2003 Council Work SessionCouncil Woricsession
5:30 p.m. Thursday, April 3,2003
Orono City Council Chambers
AGENDA
1. Planning Commission Interviews
3. Navarre Town Meeting Debrief
4. Telecommunications Tower and Antenna Regulations
(Discussion with Planning Commission Representative)
6. Other
40 minutes
2. Report from Assessor Regarding 2002 Property Valuations 15 minutes
30 minutes
20 minutes
5. City Parcel to be Sold for Dental/Medical Office Development 20 imnutcs
(Request from Buyer to reduce the Sale Price of the Property)
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TO:
FROM:
DATE:
Mayor Peterson and Council Members
Ron Moorse, City Administrator
April 1,2003
SUBJECT: Planif lug Conniissioii I ntcrviews
The retirement of Jan Berg from the Planning Commission, after serving the maximum three full terms,
has created a vacancy on the Commission. Also, David Rahn has completed his first ftill term on the
Commission, and has indicated he is interested in serving another term. The Council has requested that
staff schedule David Rahn, as well as Jule Hannatbrd and Stephanie Zugschwert, current Plaiming
Commission alternate members, for interviews with the Council. At this point, David Rahn and
Stephanie Zugschwert are scheduled for interviews at 5:30 p.m. on Thursday, April 3. Jule Hannaford
has not yet responded to indicate whether he is available on April 3.
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TO:Mayor Peterson and Council Members
FROM:Ron Moorse, City Administrator n
DATE:April 1,2003
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SUBJECT: Report From Assessor Regarding 2002 Property Valuations
A representative from the Assessor’s Office will provide an overview of the results of the 2002 property
valuation process, and will be available to answer questions, in preparation for the Board of Review
Hearing scheduled for 7:00 p.m. on Wednesday, April 23.
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TO:Mayor Peterson and Council Membera
FROM:Ron Moorsc, City Administrator
DATE:January 14,2003
SUBJECT: Navarre Town Meeting Debrief
The following is a summary of the Navarre Town Meeting Held on
March 13, 2003.
Key Feedback From Navarre Residents
Navarre is a great place to live, and a safe place for kids.
Residents enjoy the convenience and friendliness of the full
range of owner-operated service businesses in Navarre.
Navarre residents enjoy the small town neighborhood feel of
the area.
There is strong support for the Dakota Rail Corridor regional
recreational trail.
The residents very much appreciate the Navarre Park upgrade.
Key Issues Identified
It is important to preserve the small town retail character
with a diversity of owner-operated service businesses.
-Don't bring in big box retail or strip retail.
Add landscaping "green" (trees) to the Navarre commercial
area for improved appearance and a consistent theme.
Develop a 20-30 year master plan for the Navarre commercial
area, to enable greater continuity in the type, character,
and layout of buildings.
Improve the safety and ease of pedestrian movement
-Provide a safe crosswalk across County Road 15.
-Provide more sidewalks, particularly along Shadywood
Road.
Manage the volume of traffic on County Road 15.
Questions and concerns were raised regarding moving away from
Mound for fire service, and building a neighborhood fire
station in Navarre.
Orono C'ity Council Comment.s
The Council wants to be proactive vs. reactive, and will use
public input to guide the long term planning for the Navarre
area. Navarre residents are encouraged to provide the
creative element of this partnership with the City in
developing a master plan for Navarre.
Residents are encouraged to volunteer, to get involved, as
this is what makes the community great.
The Council indicated the Mound Fire Department has provided
high quality fire service over the years, and the Council is
committed to maintaining and improving the quality of fire
service provided to the Navarre area.
The Excelsior Fire District will ensure high quality fire
service for the three year period during which new volunteer
firefighters will be recruited and trained, and the Long Lake
Fire Department will take over in 2007, with fully trained
volunteers operating out of the Navarre Neighborhood Fire
Station.
Neighborhood fire stations are becoming more prevalent as
important elements of effective fire service provision,
because they facilitate recruitment of volunteer
firefighters, and improve response times.
Building a fire station in Navarre will be a significant
investment for the City.
The return on thin investment will be quality fire service
and long term cost savings under an in-place twenty-year fire
service contract with the City of Long Lake.
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Thursday, March 13,2003
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ROLL
The Council met with the public on the above mentioned date with the following members present:
Mayor Barbara Peterson; Council Members Jim Murphy, Jay Nygard, Jim White, and Bob
Sanseverc; Representing staff were City Administrator Ron Moorse and Recorder Kristi Anderson.
The audience was made up of appro.ximatcly 45 residents, plus additional members of City staff.
Mayor Peterson opened the meeting at 7:04 P.M.
Mayor Peterson welcomed the public to the Navarre Town Meeting, c.xprcsscd the Citj'*s desire to
listen to their comments, and turned the floor over to Administrator Moorse.
Moorse asked the public for their feedback on two fronts; first, what the public liked about
Navarre, its amenities, and features and characteristics worth preserving: Second, what
improvements could be made to make the community an even better place to live or work.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Evon Paige, 3493 Crystal Place, As a long term resident, Ms. Paige stated that Navarre is a nice
place to live, a safe place for kids, and presides a good mix of youth and older adults. Ms. Paige
commented that she would hate to sec a big box disrupt the natural order of the community or it
become an industrial area.
Ralph Kempf, 3675 Togo Road, stated that, while he enjoys the small town neighborhood feel
provided by Navarre, he worried about the community turning in to a traffic corridor. Although
tUiTcntly a corridor of sorts, he indicated that over the past several years, traffle has worsened
dramatically with an increase of short cutting. He feared the current situation was a mere inkling
of what w'as to come, and cautioned the Council of allow ing Navarre to turn into another
Watertown. Mr. Kempf wished to prcseiv e the character of Navarre and provide better places for
people to w alk. As he found the intersection traffic shocking, Mr. Kempf encouraged the Council
to plan for additional walking trails in the area and along Shadywood.
John Ericson, 1620 Shadyw ood, and owner of two additional lots neat the Snyder’s in Navarre.
While Mr. Ericson felt Navarre provided its residents with nice amenities, he expressed his concern
over too much traflic. l•urthc^nore, be asked how and w hen the zoning of his two Navarre parcels
had been changed from residential to commercial, as appeared to be depicted on a map of the area.
(Note: Mr. Ericson had interpreted the map ipcorrcctly, the lots remain zoned residential.)
John Klick, 3703 Casco Avenue. As a new resident, Mr. Klick expressed his concern regarding
excessive dumping that has iKCurred on City owned land along Casco Point. He indicated that he
loved Navarre, but had concerns over the standing water, brush, and debris being left on those sites
and asked how he or the City could clean these up. Mr. Klick also expressed his desire for
installing speed bumps along his roadway.
Sanseverc asked Moorse to address the dumping issue.
Klick stated that the dumping seems to be occurring at several points along Casco Point Drive.
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Murphy pointed out that dumping has turned into a global problem for communities all over. He
added that, unfortunately, more and more of it is occurring along the trail and something needs to
be done. He could not offer a solution at this time.
White felt it was shameful, the amount of dumping going on public property, and believed it was a
matter of education that it is not legal to dump. He noted that the City owned lots will likely be
used for stormwater runoff in future years.
Klick offered to do some clean up, provided the City works with him to do so.
White thanked the numerous Navarre business owners in attendance, identifying many, A-1 Rental,
Champion, the Church, office center, Navarre Hardware, Gallery Navarre, Hope Chest for Breast
Cancer, Westonka Psychological, O’Sullivans, Navarre Liquor, Sign Age, Lakeshore Interiors, the
Freshwater Society, etc.
Suzy Swanson, 3229B Casco Circle. As a lakeshore resident since 1944, Ms. Swanson embraced
the hometown feeling of Navarre and the spirit of those living in the community. She did not
support speed bumps along Casco Point Drive and felt its neighbors, as well as the City, could do
much to clean up, acid have cleaned up, the d’’rnp sites in the past.
Dan Crea», 3701 Shoreline Drive, felt that Navarre offered a unique opportunity to business owners
and residents because it is convenient, every amenity is here. As the office complex owner, he
stated that his tenants choose to be here. Mr. Crear suggested that the Council consider creating a
Navarre Master Plan, reflecting the numerous changes made over the years, including those that
changed greatly afier the tornado of approximately 30 years ago. He encouraged the Council to
look down the road 20-30 more years to identify what a great spot Navarre could be. He pointed
out that nothing in Navarre matches, adding that much could be done to provide a greater sense of
continuity.
Dean Young, 3555 Crystal Place, believed that Navarre had everything to offer, and cautioned the
Council from allowing it to turn into Excelsior, a community made up of only junk shops and
antique stores. He liked the diversity of Navarre.
Murphy concurred, stating that the main purpose of the evening’s discussion was to begin the
process of creating a 20 year plan. Although difficult, he felt the City could not afford to be
reactive in its planning, and reiterated that the Council could not prixluce this plan without citizen
input.
Sansevere reminded residents that it was their town and that the Council wished to be careful not to
overrun the community with changes, instead presen c the best of Navarre 20 years down the road.
Charles and Candace Nadler, 2509 Kelly Avenue. Although a 20 year resident who expressed his
love of Navarre, Mr. Nadler voiced his concern with regard to future traffic issues in Navarre. He
stated that, even over the past three years, he has seen traffic increase dramatically and encouraged
the Council to create a traffic plan.
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Nygard agreed that trafTic is an ongoing concern for Nax^irre. He indicated that it is often difficult
to traverse the road by foot, even when crossing the road. He stated that, over the years, he has
encouraged the City and County to make traversing through Navarre on County Road 1S more
difficult for the general public, and that the traffic be encouraged to instead use State Highways to
the north and south of Navarre.
Evon Paige asked if the redevelopment of Highway 12 would cause an increase in traffic in
Navarre.
Nygard pointed out that, over the next few years, with the redevelopment of Highway 12 and other
roads in Orono, traffic would be difficult. He proposed that this w'ould be a good time to piuduce a
plan to effectively handle the traffic situation aAer these projects are complete.
Gabriel Jabbour, 98S Tonkawa Road, disagreed with Nvgard ’s assumption that traffic could be
routed away from County Road 15. Asa past Orono Mayor, Mr. Jab^ur stated that Council, over
the last 30 years, has attempted to work with the County on this traffic situation. He felt it was
unrealistic to tell the public that a plan could be created during the next few years that would
reduce traffic on County Road 15. Mr. Jabbour demanded that the Council tell the residents the
truth about what impacts the Highway 12 and County Road 6 construction will have. He
questioned what more the City or County could do, during redevelopment of County Road 6 and
Highway 12, especially when Mound plans to build 800 new residential units, which will only
increase the traffic burden. Mr. Jabbour felt the Council should not make a speech or promise
anything it cannot deliver.
Nygard stated that he felt the residents should be aware of the need for planning and discussion
regarding the traffic dilemmas faced by Navarre.
Steve Wagner, 3607 Shoreline, owner of A-1 Rental. Long time resident and business owner, Mr.
Wagner enjoyed the advantages a small community, like Navarre, has to offer. He indicated that
many of the local businesses would like to grow and progress together, w ith the community,
w ithout being faced with the City bringing in a big box or strip mall to detract from the small town
atmosphere of Navarre. He did, however, express the need for better crosswalks with working
buttons, and questioned if the proposed fire sub station w'ould mean higher taxes for residents.
Mayor Peterson indicated that they would discuss the fire station proposal later in the evening.
Bob Albertson, 2100 Shadyw'ood Read, 39 year Navarre resident. .Mr. Albertson suggested that the
City consider hiring a landscape company to design a nice plan for the Navarre area, and an
architect to come up with some conservative ideas to bring uniformity and continuity to the
community. If he were to ere ,.te a 10 year plan. Mi. Albertson stated that he would recommend
additional crosswalks and a center stoplight above the intersection in Navarre.
Lee Erger, 3265 Crystal Bay Road, felt that access to the Dakota Rail Comdor Trail should be
made for people entering and exiting the trail He also thanked Bob Sansevere for returning his call
reg.irding questions about his Mediacom bill.
Dr. Frank and Melissa Plachecki, residing at 3685 North Shore Drive for merely six months,
expressed his happiness in being a member of the Navarre community. He mdteated that li\ing in
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this community is a dream come true for he and his family and recognized what great neighbors
and shop keepers reside in the area. Dr. Flachecki stated that, as semi-retired, he was eager to
contribute to the community and had the energy they were looking for to accomplish great things.
White pointed out that Orono collects the lowest amount of tax dollars in Hennepin County and
will continue to tighten up its belt in this sluggish economy. He complimented the City staff and
the Police Chief for their high quality and well managed departments.
Miles Shaw, a Navarre resident, maintained that, while so many communities lack character,
Navarre is in a position to define itself.
Sansevere asked the public if they would be happy with the same Navarre in 10 years as they saw
now.
Suzy Swanson indicated that, although in need of a facelift and landscaping with trees. Navarre is a
great community. She suggested creating a cityscape to define and unify the town.
Dr. Plachccki stated that in the case of Lauderdale, his previous hometown off of Carpenter, the
residents chose colored street lamps and trees lining the roadway to define itself. He indicated that
now, there is no mistake visitors are passing through a special place.
Suzy Swanson praised Rick’s supermarket for its flower beds.
Candace Nadler staled that, in her recollection, there was much more green space in Navarre ten
years ago. and she asked what happened. She noted how residential homeowners are required to
meet strict hardcover standards and questioned why it seems that business are not held to that same
high standard.
John O’Sullivan, owner of O’Sullivans and Culvers, agreed that he too would like to see more
green; however, the County chose to take away the green boulevard he had once provided, in order
to replace it with a turning lane. He indicated that the current physical limitations of the
commercial area make it difficult to find additional grccnspace. He cautioned the City about
writing a master plan w ithout limitations to tremendous grow th and change. He stated that, as a
Maple Grove resident, he has seen huge growth and lots of recent vacancies and turnover. Mr.
O’Sullivan pointed out tliat the small family owned businesses in Navarre risk being costed out if
the same happens here. While he agreed that traffic is a big concern, he reminded the residents that
to divert it entirely w ould eliminate some of their customer base. After numerous conversations
with the County himself, Mr. O’Sullivan stated that he had been told the Navarre intersection is a
skewed intersection that the community would have to live with.
White concurred that Navane provides its own economic engine.
Tamara Homar, of Westonka Psychological at 3701 Shoreline Drive. Ms. Bomar stated that, as a
business person in Navarre the past 4 years, she has observed that more options for people to stroll
the road safely with better w alkw ays need to be provided. While she felt it would be nice to
beautify the commercial area, she urged the City to construct sidewalks'walkways to better access
the park behind the hardware store via C’ounty Road 19-Shadywood
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William Wolfe, 32SS Crystal Bay Road, asked what was happening with regard to the Dakota Rail
Trail project.
As a member of the committee which spearheaded the Dakota Line trail, Gabriel Jabbour stated
that he, as well as, Peter Johnson of Mound, continue to work on the project daily. He noted that
the biggest obstacle continues to be the objections raised by the Minnetonka Beach community.
While Hennepin County purchased the line in hope that it could be turned into a trail, they’ve been
forced to put the rail out for bid for anyone who could operate a rail service. Hennepin County also
approached the Three Rivers Park District about turning the 44 mile stretch into a walk/bike trail.
Mr. Jabbour believed this opportimity would be an enormous amenity to the area and create a
pedestrian corridor within Navarre, Spring Park, Mound, and Minnetonka Beach that would tic into
the Luce Line.
The public applauded Mr. Jabbour’s and the City’s efforts.
Mr. Wolfe asked if the trail could potentially act as a light rail corridor into Minneapolis.
Jabbour stated that the Dakota Rail trail is identified os #17 on the Minneapolis light rail trail plan,
which would put this light years into the future.
White felt the future development of the trail to be the tic that links the center of all the lake
communities together. Other than the Lake Superior Trail, White believed this trail would be
second to none.
Evon Paige asked if the vae2:,i parcel ne.xt to the liquor store was contaminated or prime real
estate.
Mike Gaffron stated that remediation of the vacant Keaveny property had occurred 10-15 years
ago. He indicated he is not aware of the current status of the property in terms of the remediation
or any plans for redevelopment.
Ralph Kempf reiterated that, while current business is vital, he would not wish to apply any undue
burden upon the local business owners by requiring them to update too much. He stated that,
further west, vacancies arc common place and he would not want that to be the case for Navarre.
Mr. Kempf agreed that the addition of trees and/or a defining feature would be nice.
Moorse asked for any further comments.
Tamara Bomar asked if there were any plans which would include adding accommodations to the
area.
Jabbour pointed out that new accommodations e.xist in Long Lake and that Mound has plans to
build a motel as well.
Dan Clear cautioned the Council from taking too great an oixmership position in Navarre, one that
would discourage others from coming in. He stated that progress w ill happen, and encouraged the
public and Council to keep an open mind. He reminded the public that the traffic, however
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difficult, allows Navarre to succeed. As a Minnetonka Beach resident in support of the trail, Mr.
Crear felt that it was ludicrous that the trail was facing such opposition in his community.
Alisa Rashid, owner of the Sign Age at 3502 Shoreline Drive, stated that she has thoroughly
enjoyed working with the community over the past 8 years. She stated that Navarre provides a
close network of people who support one another. She stated that business owners have begun
different attempts to unify the community, for instance, the banner program has been embraced by
business owners. She thanked her neighbors for their active support and encouraged even more
sponsorship and support for local events like the Dog Days of Navarre. While Ms. Rashid agreed
that Navarre could be a very quaint and charming community made up of numerous specialty
stores, she believed more care needed to be given to improvements and beautification through a
partnership of business owners and the City.
William Omiie, I860 Shadywood Road, questioned whether there was any way to construct a
sidewalk along County Road 19. He felt that Shadywood was a dangerous place to walk.
White stated that the City would like to get a sidewalk from Navarre to the Dakota Rail Trail.
Greg Gappa, Public Service Director, stated that the City hopes to complete sidewalk construction
along the first block of Shadywood this year using some state aid funding. He indicated that
attempts will be made to complete consecutive blocks as resources become available.
Phyllis Hendersen, 2308 Shadywood Road, asked which side of the road the sidewalk was
proposed for or whether it would run along both sides.
Andrew McDermott, Park Commission Chair, stated that the sidewalk would likely nm along the
west side of the street.
White commended McDermott for his design of the Navarre Park.
There was public applause and appreciation.
Louis Hudlow, 3438 Lyric Avenue, stated that, while she lives a mere block from Navarre, she
doesn't dare walk to the grocery store. She stated that, currently, Navarre is very unfriendly to
p.iicstrian traffic, and what sidewalks do c.xist, are not maintained in the winter due to snov.' cover.
She urged the Council to do more for pedestrian access to Navarre and the addition of crossing
lights.
Rick Rice, 2700 Kelly Avenue, suggested the City investigate using the lagoon across from the
Sign Age for boats w ishing to gain access to Navarre businesses. He felt it would be nice if people
could diKk somewhere and use the Navarre amenities.
Mark Palmer, 2450 Carman Street, stated that, as a resident of the lagoon area, there is little room
for more access here. He stated that it was difficult to negotiate the lagoon as it stands yet alone
adding additional traffic.
Murphy thanked the residents for coming to the to\. ,i meeting and making their voices heard He
stated that; while the current tax situation is difficult, Orono was better off than most of its
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neighbors. He encouraged people to volunteer, to get involved, as this is what makes this
community great. Murphy encouraged residents to provide the creative element of this partnership.
Sansevere pointed out that the City has one opening on its Park Commission if residents were
interested in getting involved now.
With regard to the Navarre Fire Station, Moorse gave a brief history of its evolution. In the past,
Orono had been served by four different Fire Departments; Mound, Long Lake, Maple Plain, and
Wayzata. In recent years, the costs associated with these four partnerships have been on the rise
and long term plans related to facilities and equipment would have cost the City a great deal, llie
City began to look into different options which might save money over the long term. Recently,
the City came to a 20 year fire service agreement with Long Lake covering a large portion of
Orono. While Moorse pointed out that this agreement set the City up well in the area covered by
the Long Lake Fire Department, negotiations with other fire service cities did not fair the same.
The City then decided to look into consolidating additional areas of the City covered under the
Long Lake contract, including areas covered by Maple Plain and Mound. In terms of response
time, putting in a Navane \'oluiiteer fire station run by Long Lake seemed to be the most cost
effective option. Moorse indicated that, over the next few years, Navarre would be recruiting and
training volunteers, with the help of the Excelsior Fire Department. While Mound would continue
to provide service through 2003, Moorse explained that Excelsior would cover the area from 2004-
2006 while the station becomes operational and staffed.
Dan Crear asked where the station would go.
Moorse indicated that the Navarre neighborhood station would reside where the old landscaping
business was located east of the Hennepin County Highway Department facility, and west of the
old drive-in theatre property. Murphy introduced and thanked Mark DuCharme, Excelsior Fire
Chief, for his commitment to assist Orono as it builds the new station, and recruits and trains
volunteer firefighters to staff the station.
Murphy explained that the City has owned this parcel for quite awhile; theretbre. taxes wouldn ’t be
going up because of the fire station. He reiterated that the construction of the neighborhood siition
proved to be the most cost effective way to deliver fire service to the community. He encouraged
business owners to allow their daylime staff to operate as volunteer fir; fighters. Although Mc'und
has provided the City with years of good service, Murphy staled that Otono is committed to
transferring fire service to Long Lake. He indicated that many attempts had been made to come to
an understanding w ith Mound, however, these didn’t work out and the two parted ways on liiis
issue.
Rick Rice asked, why all of a sudden, how it could be cheaper to build our own lire stat ion than it
was to share with Mound.
Murphy slated that, while the short term costs arc higher, the long term costs are lower and benefits
are greater.
Nygard pointed out that, although Orono paid a high percentage for service to Mound, it had no say-
over expenditures.
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Rice asked how much the building and trucks would cost.
Moorse stated that the estimated cost to construct and equip a Navarre station would be $ 1.5
million. Murphy indicated Orono would have paid SI .2 million toward the Mound fire station.
White reiterated that the City cannot afford to continue to pay for 20-50% of these other
community’s budgets, when it could create its own service.
Clem and Barb Birch, 2205 Bayview. Mr. Birch questioned the trade off of service in order to gain
control of the Are station. Confident in the service provided by Mound, he was concerned that this
happened relatively quickly.
Nygard pointed out that the City had little choice but to move on this decision, since Mound had
insisted that if we continue to get their service we renew our contract and commit to paying for
theit new building.
While Sansevere agreed that Mound had offered phenomenal fire service over the years, he had
difficulty with the fact that their Council would not give Orono any leadership or ownership in the
building it would help fund. Given the size of the investment, Orono felt the Mound City Council
should listen to their concerns. He explained that three years should be adequate time to provide
Orono with quality responders. He maintained that if the Council had any doubt, they would not
have proceeded with this action.
Murphy concurred, stating that this development had caught the Council by surprise as well. He
explained that only one year ago did they learn what was going on. The City then began to
unders. ■ the escalating costs of providing fire service and that not everyone else w'as as
concerned about the long term costs as Orono was. We were in a position where the City was
forced to negotiate contracts that would be escalating due to construction of new stations in both
Mound and Maple Plain in upcoming years. Murphy stated that the trade off was that Orono would
be spending more in the near term, than we would with Mound fire service, however, the long term
savings would r.iore than make up the difference.
Tim Olson, 2510 Old Beach Road, asked w'hethcr the City had considered a joint fire agreement
with Excelsior. He inquired if the SI .5 million included the cost of trucks etc.
Murphy explained that, once the Council had realized that the negotiations with Mound were
worsening, the Cit}' sent out an REP to other communities to discuss service options. He stated that
the City had considered joining the Excelsior Fire District, however, chose Long Lake since they
had a change of heart and Orono already had a long term commitment with them. Murphy
continued, stating that fortunately. Excelsior agreed to play an integral role in the plan by assisting
Orono with its fire consolidation effort, and continues to provide the Cit>' vi'ith a 2007 option. With
regard to equipment purchases, Murphy indicated that many purchases can be made more
reasonably than they had been led to believe and options for used equipment exist.
Jabbour pointed out that several choices presented themselves; the first was to continue fire service
with Mound, the second to make a new commitment to Excelsior, and third, continue to partner
with Long Lake. Although all would make great partners. Jabbour felt making a $1.2 million
dollar contribution to Mound with no equity or authont>- made the least sense. He added that the
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contribution to Excelsior would be upwards of $2 million as well. With regard to the sense of
urgency. Jabbour pointed out that the City was about to make a 20 year commitment to Mound,
with taxpayer money. Jabbour explained that this Council worked its tail off taking into
considciation response time, economics, Maple Plain’s need for a new station in 200S, Mound's
need for a new station, and finally, chose to go with Long Lake Fire, a current parmcr with whom
the most recent fire station construction costs came in $I million below budget. The issue of
staffing continues to be the greatest concern, however, Jabbour pointed out that if all else fails, the
City would extend its contract with Excelsior in 2007. He reiterated that the City was truly given
no other choice than to react to the ultimatum.
Sansevere reminded residents that Orono already has a great relationship \\ ith Long Lake, and 50%
ownership of the Long Lake Fire building.
White pointed out that one consideration when looking at Excelsior is the traffic problems along
County Roads IS and 19.
As two Mound firefighters were present. Mayor Peterson reiterated the Council's diligence in
working with the Mound City Council in an elTort to gain some ownership, unforbinately, this did
not happen. She thanked Mound for providing Orono with terrific service over the years.
Sansevere stated that the negotiations continually frustrated both the Mound firefighters and the
Orono City Council.
Suzy Swanson stated that, she believed, the Navarre sub station would be a great addition to the
community. She indicated that, once the City offices relocated, Navarre residents felt remote from
this hub of activity. She believed it would be a community resource.
Andrew Anderson, 3580 Li\ingston Avenue, a firefighter from upstate New York, slated that he
would be honored to volunteer here as he had done in the bedroom community he had most
recently served in New York. He pointed out that the fire station often has the potential to become
the City's community center, building great relationships with the community through this center.
He indicated that tours and community rooms can build a strong sense of pride. Mr. Anderson
reminded everyone that being a volunteer firefighter is no les.« dangerous than being a paid
professional and carries the same weight. He agreed that the savings are well worth the investment
over time, financially and civically. lie indicated that equipment lease programs arc available and
encouraged the Council to maintain their relationship with its neighbors for mutual aid. He felt the
Navarre Fire Station would be a great thing.
The public applauded Mr. Anderson's comments.
Murphy agreed that neighborhood fire stations were on the rise.
Bob Albertson stated that he had visited the new fire station and read up on literature that confirms
that new mini stations cut down on response time. He also spoke to Mound firefighters who
admitted that the traffic and congestion along County Road 15 could impact response times from
Mound to Orono. He believed it was very important to the future of Navarre to do this.
Rick Rice asked what the service area would be.
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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO NAVARRE TOWN MEETING
Thnrsdayy March 13,2003
7:00 o’clock p.m.
Mayor Peterson invited Mr. Rice to visit after the meeting to learn more, however, indicated that
the service area would be all that was covered by Mound. She encouraged residents to watch for
the groundbreaking to take place sometime in late April or early May.
The meeting adjourned at 9:05 P.M.
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FROM:
Mayor I’ctcrson and Council Members
Ron Moorsc, City Administrator iKv '
DATE:April 1,2003
SUBJECT : Telecommunications Antcnna/Tower Regulations
BACKGROUND
In the mid 90 ’s, telecommunications carriers began to expand their services in the suburban areas. This
required the placement of antennas on towers, at various inteiA'als, depending on the height of the
towers. To manage the proliferation of towers and antennas, particularly in residential areas, cities
developed regulations to limit the areas in which towers could be placed, while making reasonable
accommodations to enable the expansion of the telecommunications services, as required by Federal
regulations.
The City amended its land use regulations in preparation for the requests from telecommunieations
carriers to place antennas in the city. These regulations enable telecommunications antennas to be
placed only on the City ’s two water towers. They are not allowed in any other location. Because the
towers arc located at the two ends of the city, in the areas of highest development density,» ! along the
two highest tralTic roadways in the city, the tower locations have served the telecommunications
carriers well. 'I he City has leased space on its two towers to six telecommunications carriers.
Complete C’ovcrace
One of the carriers has indicated the two water tower locations do not enable full coverage of the city.
I here arc gaps in the coverage, particularly in the central area of the city. T he carrier has indicated a
solution is to place a tower and antenna in the Crystal Bay area.
Providing a solution to the coverage problem would require a significant change to the City ’s
telecommunications antenna tirdinance to allow antennas (and antenna towers) at locations other than
the City ’s two water towers. More .specifically, it would require allowing antennas and towers in otlicr
locations in the City's rcsidentiaj_arcas.
Issues lelated to nmendint; the City ’s teleconununications tower/antenna ordinance.
Staff has obtained advice from the City Attorney and the City ’s telecommunications consultant
regaiding issues related to the request for additional telecommunications tower locations, and its
impact on t*'c City ’s telecommunications regulations.
1 he key i.ssue is how the City can be.st balance the interests of the public and the interests of the
telecommunications carriers, while complying with the Federal telecommunications law. The
telecommunications consultant has indicated that if a carrier can demonstrate a gap in coverage that
cannot be addressed by locating antennas on the two City water towers, the City w ill need to enable an
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additional option for locating towers and antennas. However, the City can place restrictions on the
sites that can be used for towers, and on the towers and antennas, to minimize the negative impacts of
the towers and antennas. As the City considers the issue of providing additional options for the siting
of telecommunications towers, the two most difficult elements are the types of locations that could be
allow'*d, and the maximum tower height to be allowed.
Options for Tower Locations in Residential 2^nes
Towers in residential zones could be restricted to only a limited subset of residential properties, such
as one or more of the following:
- City water towers
•• City Emergency siren tower locations
- Other City-owned property, such as parkland
- Institutiorml Use Property
-church
- school
In reviewing the locations of “institutional" use properties there are no institutional use properties
located in areas of the City that could address a gap in coverage, and that are not near an existing
emergency warning siren site, or City parkland.
The potentially available properties could be further restricted by limiting a tower site to parcels with a
minimum size i.e. 2 acres, 5 acres, 10 acres.to enable better opportunities to limit the visual impact of
the tower.
Maximum Height of Towers
The telecommunications carriers generally want to build towers between 90 and 120 feet in height. At
minimiun the towers need to be taller than the tree canopy in the area of the tower. The
telecommunications consultant has suggested that in residential areas it would be reasonable to limit the
height of towers to 75 feet. This height is the maximum height the City would be required to allow for
an amateur radio tower. The trade-offs related to the lower height are that the potential for co-location
is significantly reduced, and it may result in the need for a larger number of towers.
Other Potential Restrictions Related to Towers in Residential .\reas
- Stealth or camouflaged towers and antennas are required if the carrier has or can obtain the necessary
technology.
- Only monopole towers arc allow'ed.
Council Direction from Previous Work session
The consensus of the Council in terms of a solution to the tower siting issue is as follows:
- The height of telecommunications towers in residential districts should be limited to a maximum of
75 feet.
- The additional sites available for telecommunications antennas are limited to the existing sites of the
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City's emergency warning sirens. A map is attached showing these sites.
-Stealth antennas are requited if the technology is available
- The lease schedule should be amended to provide for lower lease rates for lower towers and antennas.
Planning Commission Recommendations
The Planning Commission will be discussing the information in this memo at its April 2 work session.
A representative(s) of the Planning Commission will attend the April 3 Council work session to share
the recommendations of the Planning Commission.
Staff Recommendation
Based on the Council’s direction, and on advice from the City Attorney and the City ’s
telecommunications consultant, the following is stall's recommendation regarding the key elements of
an amended telecommunications tower/antenna ordinance.
- The height of telecommunications towers in residential districts should be limited to a maximum of
75 feet.
- The height of a tower can be no higher than the minimum height required to address the gap in
coverage
- The sites available for telecommunications antennas are expanded to include the existing sites of the
City ’s emergency warning sirens, and an additional site located on the City ’s GolfCourse property, that
would serve as both an emergency warning siren site and a telecommunications antenna site. The Golf
Course site was added to fill a gap in the cast central portion of the City. A map is attached showing
these sites.
The antennas must be located on the existing emergency warning sirens, unless the height of the
existing pole, or the capacity of the existing pole to support the antcnna(s) is inadequate to minimally
meet the needs of the carrier. In this case, the carrier may be allowed to install a replacement tower that
will accommodate both the emergency warning siren and the telecommunications antcnna(s). (The
City ’s telecommunications consultant has advised that it is unlikely the e.xisting wooden poles on which
the emergency warning sirens are located would be able to support both the sirens and the
telecommunications antennas. The existing poles would likely be replaced with a monopole that could
support both the sirens and the antennas.
- The setback of a tower from a property line must, at minimum, be equal to the height of the tow er,
except where an existing emergency warning siren is located on a site that docs not enable this setback
to be provided.
- A carrier must demonstrate through an engineering analysis that there is a gap in coverage.
- At the City’s discretion, a tower must be designed to structurally enable co-location by another carrier,
and the carrier must agree to allow co-location.
- The carrier must provide computer-generated photos showing the views(as selected by the City) with
and without the tower.
- All consultant analysis and legal analysis related to the towers and the lease of the towers shall be
paid by the carrier.
- The carrier is required to provide coverage maps to demonstrate the specific gap in coverage and need
for an additional tower and antenna(s), and to demonstrate there are no existing tower options within a
radius of one-half mile that could accommodate the carrier's antenna needs.
- The size of the cabinets on the ground needed to house the support equipment for the antennas is
limited.
- "Stealth'’-type antennas (cylindrical) vs. an array of panels, is required if the technology is available.
-Only monopole towers are allowed.
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FROM:
DATE:
Mayor Peterson and Council Members
Ron Moorsc, City Administrator
March 31,2003
SUBJECT: Sale of City Parcel for Dental/Medical Office
Background
The City has agreed to sell the two-acre parcel at the northeast comer of Highway 12 and Old Cr> stal
Bay Road to the Professional Partnership of Orono (PPO)for construction of a dcntal/mcdical office
building. The City had been holding this parcel to ensure that the design and quality of the building
constructed on the parcel would set the tunc for the design and quality of the office buildings planned
along the north side of Highway 12 between Old Cry stal Bay Road and Willow Drive.
Although the initial design and quality of the building proposed by the PPO were acceptable to the
City, the plans recently were changed to reduce the cost of the building. The result was a lower quality
building that did not meet the standards agreed to by the Council. The PPO has indicated they could
provide a higher quality building if the City would reduce the cost of the land.
Request for Reduction of the Pt ice of the Parcel
'fhe Council has recently received a letter from the PPO providing infonnation regiuding soil correction
costs, and requesting the City to consider reducing the price of the property from the amount agreed to
in the purchase agreement, ba.sed on the amount of soil correction costs.
1 he City ’s Appraiser, who performed an appraisal of the property as the basis for the City setting a sale
price for the property, and the City ’s Consulting Engineer have both provided input regarding the price
reduction request.
The Appraiser indicated that soil correction costs can have an impact on the price of property if the
amount of soil correction needed is significantly beyond w hat would typically be expected.
The Consultant Engineer has indicated the soils report is clear about the amount of soil correction
needed, and that the amount of soil correction required is typical for this area. 1 his information was
available prior to the PPO signing the purchase agreement. The 1-foot subcut for the paved areas is
typical for most soil types. The 5 foot subcut for the building pad is necessaiy only in the area of the
perimeter footings, fhis depth for footings is, again, standard unless the soils are ver> pt>or. Please
see the attached letter from Tom Kellogg of BRA.
Design and Quality of the Building
Although the PPO has focused on reducing the price of the parcel, the more important issue is whether
the PPO w ill provide the design and quality of building the Council wants, to set the standard for the
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future office buildings to be constructed along Highway 12. Staff has requested that the PPO provide
the most recent building design plan, so that we can determine the level of quality of the building
design and exterior materials. The plan has not been provided at this time.
Staff Recommendation
The PPO is requesting the price of the property be reduced by 30%. based on the cost of soil
corrections, most of which are standard for most soil types. Rather than considering these costs as
expenses by which the price of the property should be reduced, these costs should be considered as
development costs that are beyond the cost of purchasing the property. The condition of the soils was
known to the PPO prior to agreeing to the price reflected in the purchase agreement. Although the
amount of soil correction is somewhat beyond what might generally be considered typical, the types
and cost of the soil corrections do not rise to the level that would require a price reduction.
Of more concern is the current status of the building plans, in terms of the building design and the
quality of exterior materials. It is important that the building design and exterior materials are of high
quality. Without a high quality building, the price of the parcel and the purchase agreement become
moot issues.
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Rosene
Anderlik&
Associates
Engineers & Architects
March 27,2003
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City Administrator
CityofOrono
Post OfTice Box 66
Crystal Bay. MN 55323
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Rc: Professional Properties of Orono
File No. 139-03-000
Plat No. 02-2782
Dear Ron:
We have reviewed the geotechnical report (GMF Consultants, Inc. dated Sept. 19,2002) and cost estimates for
soils corrections (VP Hnterpriscs of Minnesota dated March 26,2003) for the Professional Properties building.
The cost estimate contains six line items identifying costs associated with the site work. We arc writing in
regards to line item #3 (building pad) and line item #4 (parking lot).
The costs associated with line item #3, building pad, stale that bceause of the poor native soils the contractor
will need to remove 5-fcct of material over the entire building pad site. The total building pad site is
appro.ximatcly 16,000 square feet equating to excavating appro.ximatcly 3000 cubic yards (CY) of material and
replacing it with granular material. The soils report identifies the estimated minimum depth of subcutling for
the six soil Iwrings taken under the building pad (table on page 10 in the GMH report). 1 he average depth of
the subcul recommended was 2.9-fcel over the building pad and additional depths under the perimeter footings.
The depth under the footings is for stability and frosi protcciion and is standard in any new building
construction. Taking the average depth of subcut to be 2.9-fcct the total excavation required for soils
corrections is approximately 1750 CY.
Line item 1/4 states the parking lot will be subcut 1-foot below the proposed gravel base. This agrees with
t>pical sections used on the construction of the adjacent Kelley Parkway and also agrees with our site
impiovement cost estimate dated September 25,2002. Our cost estimate assumed the site would need l-foot of
select granular under ait paiking ioi areas ucfoie we received the geoieeiinical tepori. Oar as.^umpllons were
based on visual site inspection and similar projects in the area
It is clear given the .surrounding properties, the possible wetland on site, and the findings of the geotechnical
report that a high ground water table and organic soils would be present on this site. The additional costs
associated with construction on this site are t>pical for this area. In general, wc do not feel that there arc any
suriiriscs in the soils rc|xm that a trained professional would not anticipate after a general review of the project
site.
Please contact me at (651) 604-4863 if you have any questions regarding this rnatlcr.
^'ours vciy truly,
liONhSTROO. ROSENE. ANDERLIK & ASSOCIATES. INC.’* ’ *
I homas P. Kellogg. P.E.
2335 West Highway 36 • St. Paul. MN 5SII3* 651-636-4600 ■ Fax: 65l-636-f3U
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PROFESSIONAL PROPERTIES MAPLE GROVE PROFESSIONAL CENTER
13998 Maple Knoll Way Maple Grove, Minnesota 55369
March 14, 2003
City of Orono
Mr. Ron Moorse
P O Box 66
Crystal Bay MN 55323-0066
Re: Plan Revisions for 2765 Kellev Parkwav
Dear Mr. Moorse:
Our partnership members, our builder and our architect met last Friday with
Mike Gaffron to discuss the concerns that were raised by the Council over our
revised plans. The revision was necessitated in an attempt to control building
costs that came in much higher than anticipated. In particular, the poor soil
conditions of the lot resulted in an additional expense of $145,000.00 to correct.
Our builder tried to offset that cost by changing the building as per the revised
plans that were submitted. (Enclosed are copies of the builder’s estimates and soil
preparation costs.)
All the members of our partnership liked the original design better. It was just too
expensive to build. However, we would be willing to go back to the original
building plans that you have approved, if we could recoup some of those increased
costs by receiving a discount in the purchase price of the lot. Specifically, we are
asking for a discount in the price of the land of $145,000.00 to cover the additional
excavation costs. It is our understanding that is a common practice in the building
industry to be granted a discount for this soil correction.
In suinmaiy, we are hopeful that Orono can help us in our goal of building a
professional center that all of us can be proud of having in the community.
Sincerely,
William J. Kottemann, DDS; Partner
Karl G. Berg, DDS; Partner
McCarthy Construction. Inc.
11100 Brm Road West. Suite #200
Minnetonka. MN 55343
952.922.2227
952.653.1190
McCarthy Construction
March 13,2003
Mr. Bob Ritter
ReMax Real Estate
I2S West Lake Street
Wayzata, MN 55391
Orono Professional Center
Dear Bob:
The following list identifies project cost revisions for potential building exterior design
changes and soil correction costs required due to poor soil conditions.
1. Added architectural and structural fee’s for revising
original design documents. Please note, if drawings are
changed again additional design fees will be assessed.
2. Elimination of exterior stone and add stucco in its place
+ $ 9,870.00
- $ 42.600.00
3. Remove flat roofi and simplify roof fiaming to a pre
engineered truss roof system
4. Eliminate all high glass
- $ 61,720.00
- $ 27,240.00
5. Soil correction required due to poor soil conditions
See attached analysis from earthwork contractor +$ 145,000.00
Should you have any further questions, don’t hesitate to calL Thank you.
Team Builder