HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-20-1985 Planning MinutesPLANNING COMMISSION MEI3TING
MONDAY, MAY 20, 1985 7:30 P.M.
1275 BROWN ROAD SOOTH - COUNCIL CHAMBERS
COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE - Mayor Mary Butler
ATTENDANCE
SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. 7:30 p.m. #913 Paul R. Phillips, 2160 Sixth Avenue North -
Preliminary Subdivision
2. 7:45 p.m. #916 G.W. Krimmel & Bruce Engelsma, 960 & 990
Partenwood Road - Lot Line Rearrangement
3. 8:00 p.m. #918 John D. Nordstrom, 541 Spring Hill Road -
Preliminary Subdivision
4. 8:15 p.m. #922 Chuck Van Eeckhcut, 2020 & 2080 Salem Court
Lot Line Rearrangement
ACTION ITEMS
James L. Hoff, 2056 Shadywood Road -
Conditional Use Permit - Public Hearing
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6.#912
7.#914
8.#917
9.#919
10.#920
11.#921
12.#924
Public Hearing
- Variances
Variance - Public Hearing
Variance - Public Hearing
T.M. Schultze, 1185 Wyndmere Road -
After-the-Fact Conditional Use Permit - Public Hearing
Lou Fegers, 3590 North Shore Drive - Variances
Public Hearing
Public Hearing
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Conditional Use Permit - Public Hearing
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW
13. #923 Schoell (. Madson, Inc., 565 Leaf Street - Subflivision
ADDITIONAL ITEMS
14. Planning Commission approval of April 15, 1985 minutes.
15. Planning Commission to select representative to attend the
May 13, 1985 Council meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
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MINUTES OP THE ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD MAY 20, 1985. PAGE 1
ATTENDANCE 7:30 PM The Orono Planning Conunission met on the above date with the
following members present: Chairman Callahan, with
members Goetten, Sime, Kelley, Taylor, and McDonald.
Planning Commission member Ro”egno was absent. Council
representative Mayor Butler was present. Building & Zoning
Administrator Mabusth, Assistant Zoning Administrator
Gaffron, and Recorder Sutton represented the City staff.
1913 PAUL PHILLIPS
2160 SIXTH AVENUE NORTH
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION
PUBLIC HEARING
7:30 - 7:39 PM Paul and Mary Phillips were present. Mark Gronherg,
surveyor, was also present. Chairman Ca) ahan called for
the public hearing concerning the preliminary subdivision of
Paul Phillips Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth
noted the certificate cf mailing and the affidavit of
publication. There was no one present from the public for
this scheduled public hearing.
Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth reviewed with the
Planning Commission Phillip's proposal to subdivide
approximately 12 acres of his land irto 4 lots. Mabusth
noted that portions of the 12 acres are located within the
City of Medina, but that the obvious building sites are
located within the City of Orono.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 7:39
p.m
Goetten moved, Sime seconded, to recommend approval of the
preliminary plat application of Paul Phillips finding all
standards of the RR-lB zoning district and on-site septic
code have been satisfied based on the following conditions:
1. Additional septic testing to be completed before
applicant is schedule for Council approval—Lots 1 and
3's alternate test sites.
2. Locate existing septic system on Lot 3.
3. Approval of curb cut by Hennepin County. City to
acquire drainage and utility easement over Outlet A.
4. Owner of Lot 4 must grant access easement in favor of Lot
3.
5.Future developer of lands within Medina to be served by
private road within Outlet A must obtain a conditional
use permit from the City of Orono prior to construction.
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6.Engineer to submit necessary hydraulic information in
order to determine size of retention area on Lot 1. City
will ask that the area be designated as a drainage
easement, the City will ask for a flowage and
conservation easement over designated area.
7.Payment of park dedication fee of $600 ($200 each
lot).
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9.
Dedication of right-of-way of 40' for County Road 6.
At the time Lot 1 is developed, berming to be done along
Outlot A to prevent »"unoff from flowing over mounds and
to protect mound sites when road is constructed.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
f916 G.H. KRIMMBL ft
BRUCE BNGBLSMA
960 ft 990 PARTENWOOD
LOT LINE REARRANGEMENT
PUBLIC HEARING
7:45 - 7:48 PM Jeanne Krimmel and Bruce Engelsma were present. Mark
Gronberg, surveyor, was also present. Chairman Callahan
called for the public hearing concerning the lot line
rearrangement for Krimmel/EnqeIsma. Building & Zoning
Administrator Mabusth noted the certificate of mailing and
the affidavit of publication. There was no one present in
the audience for this scheduled public hearing.
Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth informed the
Planning Commission of the applicants' proposal to rearrange
the shared lot lines so that the existing improvements on
each lot are located within their homestead lot. Mabusth
advised the owner of Lot 2 that there may be a need to relocate
the dock per realigned/extended side lot lines. Mabusth
noted for the record the dock setbacks as follows:
dock length 0-50' - 10' setback from extended lot line
dock length 50-100' - 15' setback from extended lot line
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 7:48 p.r.u
Goetten moved, Kelley seconded, to recommend approval of the
proposed plat of a lot line rearrangement for Krimmel and
Engelsma based on the fo’.lowing findings:
1. The lots each contain the minimum required one acre in
area.
2.All existing structures meet the required setbacks from
the newly created lot line.
3.Applicant has been advi.sed that the dock located on Lot 2
may have to be relocated per the above setbacks noted by
staf f.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
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1918 JOHN NORDSTROM
541 SPRING HILL ROAD
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION
PUBLIC HEARING
8:00 - 8:29 PM
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Dennis Buratti, attorney from Dorsey, Whitney, law firm, was
present to represent the Nordstroms. Mark Gronberg,
surveyor, was also present. Chairman Callahan called for
the public hearing concerning the preliminary subdivision
for Nordstrom. Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth
noted the certificate of mailing and the affidavit of
Dublication. George & Patricia Partridge of 625 Spring Hill
Road, and Harry B. Stocker of 465 Spring Hill Road were
present from the audience for this scheduled public hearing.
Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained
Nordstrom's proposal to subdivide his homestead lot into 5
bui Idable lots. Mabusth noted that the old driveway will be
removed up to the public cartway that serves the former
Crosby, Winston and Partridge residences. Mabusth stated
that staff recommends that the proposed curb cut on Spring
Hill Road be moved 60-70* eastward. Mabusth noted that all
new lots have suitable area for on site development but that
staff will ask for additional percs and borings for Lot 1
further east and uphill from Partridge drive and alternate
tests for existing house lot.
Patricia Partridge of 6.15 Spring Hill Road expressed her
concern if the developer does not finish off the road bed
requirements and asked who will enforce the conditions.
Partridge asked staff why the septic site is proposed so
close to the lot line.
Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that staff
will enforce the conditions of the final resolution.
Mabusth noted that the proposed septic test site meets the
required 20' setback but that time has shown that drainf ields
close to a drive can create problems.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron confirmed that the
proposed septic sitedo.iS meet the required 20' setback from
the lot line, but staff would feel more comfortable locating
the site further bac‘: from the lot line.
Kelley askro staff if each lot has 2 acres dry buildable.
Zoning AJministratoi Mabusth stated that the wetlands area
will be reconfirmed by the surveyor, Mark Gronberg.
Chairman Callahan questioned staff why the City should
require the applicant to abide by the DNR's setbacks from
lakes when the City hasn't even adopted the DNR's standards
yet and felt that this shouldn't be included in the motion.
Callahan closed the public hearing at 8:29 p.m.
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#918 NORDSTROM
(CONT)Sime moved, Goetten seconded, to recommend approval of the
preliminary plat application by John Nordstrom finding all
standards of the RR-lB Rural Residential Zoning District and
on-site septic code have been satisfied subject to the
following conditions;
1. Additionc.1 septic testing required prior to scheduling
application before Council for formal action.
a) new percs and borings uphill to the east on Lot 1.
b) alternate septic testing for Lot 3—surveyor should
locate existing septic system on plan.
2. All new construction and septic installat 'ons must meet
the Orono setbacks from the lake and owner is hereby
advised that Orono may adopt DNR setback regulations
which require additional setbacks from the lake.
3. Describe wetland in angles and bearings within Lot 5 at
970’ elevation. Designate wetland as drainage
easement. City to ask for conservation and flowage
easement over wetlands.
4. Existing drive must be removed at the time Lot 3 is served
by new private road and shared drive. Road must be
removed upto private cartway, and cartway is to be
returned to its natural state.
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Move curb cut on Spring Hill Road 60' to 70* to meet safe
sight distance.
The City will ask for underlying road and utility
easements over Outlot A—maintenance covenants for
upkeep and maintenance of private road. Applicant must
submit proof within private covenants that shared
drives, ownership and maintenance is shared by Lots 1, 2
and 3.
7. The City wi 11 ask that portions of the property involved
in Lydiard Lake be dedicated to the City for public use.
Since the property is abstract, the area should be
described i n angels and bearings, designated as drainage
easements and dedication on the plat to the City for
public use.
8. Payment of $800 park dedication fee ($200/lot).
9. Building envelope for Lots 2 and 4 should be changed to
reflect 200' setback from Lydiard Lake.
10. Lot 4 drainfield may need to be relocated after are 150*
Lake Lydiard.
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11. Applicant is placed on notice there there is a non-
conforming structure on Lot 3 and is subject to all
pertinent ordinances.
12. Applicant to assure that each lot has 2 acres of dry
buildable.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
1922 CHUCK VAN EECKHOU*?
2020 t 2080 SALEM COO;:^
LOT LINE REARRANGEMPJfT
PUBLIC HEARING
8:35 - 8:46 PM Chuck Van Eeckhout was present. Chairman Callahan called for
the public hearing concerning Van Eeckhout's proposed lot
line 1earrangement. Assistant Zoning Administrator
Gaf fron noted the certificate of mailing and the affidavit of
publication. Maxwell Alvord of 960 Brcwn Road North was
present from the audience for this scheduled public hearing.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron reviewed the
applicant's proposal to rearrange the lot line at 2020 and
2080 Salem Court by trading equal areas in order to create a
more attractive building site.
Maxwell Alvord of 960 Brown Road North pointed out an
existing drainage problem with the culverts. Alvord asked
staff to investigate into this matter. Alvord noted after
the drainage problem is solved, that he has no problems with
the lot line rearrangement.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth noted that the City was not
aware of the problem and that staff and City Engineer will
investigate into the drainage concern.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 8:46 p.m.
Kelley moved, Sime seconded, to recommend approval of the
proposed lot line rearrangement for Chuck Van Eeckhout at
2020 and 2080 Salem Court subject to the following
conditions: ’
1. Flowage and conservation easement over Lots 1 and 2.
2. Drainage concern raised at meeting to be investigated by
City Engineer for improvement.
3. Drainage easement bo granted by Lot 1 across Lot 2.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
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1910 JAMES HOPE
2056 SHADYWOOD ROAD
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
PUBLIC HEARING
9:18 - 9:26 PM Jciincs Hoff Wc3s pressnt, Mark Gronberg, surveyor, was
present. Chairman Callahan called for the public hearing
concerning Hoff's conditional use permit application to
regrade his lakeshore yard. Assistant Zoning Adminis
trator Gaffron noted the certificate of mailing and the
affidavit of publication. Neil & Jan Blesi of 2064
Shadywood Road were present from the audience for this public
hearing.
James Hoff explained hi s proposal to grade his lakeshore yard
to match his neighbors yard. Hoff explained that there is a
safety factor when he tries to maintain his yard and is very
dangerous. Hoff noted that he plans to extend the contours
of his neighbors to his own yard.
Kelley asked if the applicant plans on removing the retaining
wall.
Hoff confirmed that he will remove the retaining wall. Hoff
stated the the proposed improvements will improve the safety
of the bank.
Neil Blesi of 2064 Shadywood Road noted that the proposal
will greatly improve » e looks of the applicant's lakeshore
yard and will reduce the degree of existing hazard. Blesx
noted that the previous owner had regraded the lakeshore yard
and because of lack of family support built the hill back up
again. Blesi noted that the applicant's yard had previously
been the same contours that were proposed.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that according
to the City Engineer that the proposed contours as shown will
not accomplish the applicant's objective.
Chairman Callahan felt that the Planning Commission needs
more informat io.n to determine if the proposal meets the
applicant's objective. Callahan closed the public hearing
at 9:26 p.m.
Sime noted that the plan is not complete and is difficult to
see where the contours will be. Sime noted that when the
lakeshore area is graded that the applicant sod the ground
right away to prevent erosion into the lake.
Sime moved, Kelley seconded, to recommend approval of the
conditional use permit application of James Hoff to allow the
grading of his lakeshore yard based on the following
find!ngs:
1.Applicant's lakeshore yard will conform better to the
neighbors yards and will look more aesthetic.
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2.Proposal will reduce degree of hazardous condition
existing on the property because of the slope of the land
and will improve the health, safety, and welfare of the
applicant’s yard and neighborhood.
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Applicant's lakeshore yard previously existed as the
proposal now shows and previous owner built hill back up
again thereby creating extra hardship on current owner
for maintenance of yard.
Approval subject to the following conditions;
1. Regrading to be done under close supervision with staff
and City Engineer to assure that proposed contours will
blend with the neighbors yards.
2. City to require that the applicant have this grading done
professionally and not by the applicant.
3. Proper erosion controls to be approved and supervised by
staff.
4. If applicant proposes steps or a stairway to the
lakeshore, applicant may not exceed existing steps or
existing amount of hardcover.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
1912 GORDON HEDLUND
3990 NORTH SHORE DRIVE
VARIANCES
PUBLIC HEARING
9:44 - 10:05 PM Gordon Hedlund was present. Chairman Callahan called for the
public hearing for Gordon Hedlund's variance application to
permit the construction of a new residence. Building &
Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted the affidavit of
publication and the certificate of mailing. Robert & Sue
Bilger of 4005 North Shore Drive were present from the
audieiice for this public hearing.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that the lot is
partially located within the LR-lC and LR-lB zoning
district. Gaffron noted that Planning Commission should
decide first what zoning district standards should apply to
this application.
Kelley asked about the surrounding lots in the neighborhood
and felt that the zoning should match the surrounding lots.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron stated that the
surrounding lots are mostly half-acre.
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#912 HEDLUND (CONT) Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that an cabin
existed on the property but the previous owner damaged the
cabin when he tried to install a basement/foundation for the
cabin. Gaffron noted the sewer is available and both lots
have been assessed footage. Gaffron explained that the
applicant will be limited to 2,300 sf of hardcover and it
appears that the home and driveway the applicant has proposed
will meet this requirement. Gaffron noted a problem with
the access from the lot onto the "S" curve and that Hennepin
County has some recommendations. Gaffron noted that
Hennepin County made the following comments in their letter
dated May 14, 1985:
1. No point on the lot frontage meets the minimum sight
distance requirements for a driveway location for the
posted 30 mph limit.
2.Any proposed construction within County right of way
requires an approved utility permit prior to beginning
construction.
3.The developer must restore all areas within County right
of way disturbed during construction.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that the
County would request that a triangular area of 1,400 square
feet bo dedicated for roadway where the County road
encroaches into the property.
Robert & Sue Bi Iger of 4005 North Shore Drive stated that the
”S" curve is already dangerous enough without adding another
access onto the hazardous road. The Bilgers noted that
there is currently a safety problem on the "S" curve and many
accidents have occured in this area. The Bilger explained
that they have even had cars run into their home from that
?harp "S" curve.
Gordon Hedlund stated that when he talked to Hennepin County
about the access that they did not express too much concern.
Hedlund noted that Hennepin County mentioned that they would
need right-of-way and that they would make some
recommendations, but that they weren't alarmed about the
proposa1.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron asked if Hedlund
would be willing to use a shared driveway for access.
Gordon Hedlund stated that he would be willing to share a
driveway access with someone if the City required it.
Sue Bilger of 4005 North Shore Drive stated using a shared
driveway will not solve the existing problem on the "S"
curve. Bilger stated that the City would still be placing
more traffic onto this dangerous road if this variance is
approved.
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HEDLUND (CONT) Gordon Hedlund noted that there are a lot worse problems
within Orono and throughout Hennepin County than this access
point.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 10:05 p.m.
Goetten noted that in light of the dangerous access area that
she would not be able to vote in favor of the application.
Taylor moved, Kelley seconded, to recommend denial of
Hedlund ' s variance application to construct a new home based
on the following findings:
1. Lot does not follow the neighborhood pattern of existing
development, being smaller than 91% of the developed
lots within 1000' of the property.
2. Relatively unsafe county road access.
3. Applicant had forewarning that lots may be unbuildable
prior to his purchase.
4. Denial is consistent with past denials on vacant
substandard lots of this size.
5.Property could be combined with adjacent properties to
the east or south, both of which are substandard in area.
6.Intent of the application is contrary to the letter and
intent of the Orono Comprehensive Plan.
7.Granting of this variance would set an adverse precedent
in the City.
8.The property falls too short of the zoning standards to
justify granting of the variance.
9.There * s an existing hazardous traffic problem on the "S"
curve and that an additional access onto this ooint would
further the dangerous situation.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
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t914 RICHARD KAUPPMANM
2696 ETHEL AVENUE
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING
10:08 - 10:25 PM
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Richard Kauffmann was present. Chairman Callahan called for
the public hearing concerning Richard Kauffmann's variance
application to the average lakeshore setback line to permit
the construction of a new home. Zoning Administrator
Mabusth noted the certificate of mailing and the affidavit of
publication. Harry & Thelma Pulver of 2691 Caroline Avenue,
Dorothy Kt-arns of 2961 Ethel Avenue, and Thomas Schmitz of
2696 Ethel Avenue were presant from the audience for this
application.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained that the applicant
wishes to construct a new residence 32 feet beyond the
average setback line. Mabusth stated that the applicant has
since amended his proposal to extend only 17 feet beyc.'J the
average setback line. Mabusth noted that the applicant has
asked that the present structure remain in use during
construction.
Richard Kauffmann presented a model of the proposed home to
the Planning Commission. Kauffmann explained that his
daughter and son-in-law presently live in the existing
house. Kauffmann noted that he has worked with the
neighbors and because of the neighbors comments he shifted
the location of the home and pulled back the home to only
extend 17 feet beyond the average setback line. Kauffmann
stated that he has no decks that would block the neighbors
view of the lakeshore. Kauffmann stated that he proposes a
screened-in porch with a walkout patio with spaced wood and
sand below that should not be considered hardcover.
Goetten asked what the highest point of the house would be.
Richard Kauffmann stated approximately 29'. Kauffmann
explained that he proposes a loft inside and needs the house
high enough to allow space for the loft.
Dorothy Kearns of 2961 expressed her concern for her view of
the lake.
Kelley felt that if approved no additional decks should be
allowed.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth advised Kauffmann that his
existing dock appears to cross over the lot line. Mabusth
noted that the boat attached to the dock encroaches onto
Pulvers property.
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(CONT)Richard Kauffmann stated that he did not know that the dock
encroaches onto anyone's property and that the pievious
owner, Hamlett, was the one that installed the dock.
Kauffmann explained his proposal to extend the dock 20' and
to pull the boat back from the lot line. Kauffmann stated
that he will move the boat to conform to the code if confirmed
that it crosses the line. Kauffmann noted that he is trying
to give the Pulvers enough room and therefore shifted his
home away from their lot line. Kauffmann noted that he will
be saving a mature tree by pulling the home back. Kauffmann
noted his hardship to be the steep existing grade of the lot
and explained his proposal to grade that down.
Kelley asked the neighbors what they thought of the proposal
The neighbors stated that they can live with the proposal
after Kauffmann made the changes.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 10:25 p.m.
Goetten moved, Taylor seconded, to recommend approval of
Richard Kauffmann's variance application to permit
construction of a new home into 17' of the average lakeshore
setback zone based on the following findings:
1.Topography is so steep that specific construction and
house location are needed to provide safe access to lake.
Slope from house to lakeshore is steep.
2.Design of roof and roof elevation does not create view
problems for adjacent homes.
The proposed improvement will not diminish surrounding
property values.
Approval is subject to the following conditions:
1. Applicant and future owner not allowed to place another
deck to the lakeside of the structure and such to be filed
in the chain of title.
2.Applicant to relocate dock and boat if dock is
encroaching over neighbors lot line.
3.AS applicant requested, existing house may remain in use
during construction and then must be removed from site.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
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TIPTON CORPORATION
1290 LYMAN AVENUE
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING
8:49 - 9:15 PM Mike Sjeklocha of 1424 Baldur Park Road was present to
represent Tipton Corporation. Chairman Callahan called
for the public hearing concer..ing Tipton's variance
application to construct a new residence on Lyman Avenue.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted the
certificate of mailing and the affidavit of publication.
Marc & Tracy Whitehead of 1220 Lyman Avenue were present from
the audience for this application.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained that
Tipton Corporation plans to remove existing house and
detached garage and sheds from site and build a new
residence. Gaffron noted that the proposed house appears to
meet the required front, rear and side setbacks. Gaffron
noted his concern that the primary drainfield site will not
meet minimum setbacks from the house, and the alternate site
is not realistically capable of containing the 1,200 sf
drainfield required while maintaining safe setbacks from
foundations walls.
Marc Whitehead of 1220 Lyman Avenue stated that there is no
question that the existing buildings on the property are an
eye sore, but that the size of the home proposed is too large.
Whitehead stated that he thought the lot size was
approximately 1.8 acres (closer to 2 acres), but just found
out tonight that it is 1.3 acres. Whitehead noted that he
was also surprised that Tipton has already made their
proposal to the City, since he and Tipton representatives had
conversations relating to trading and/or buying of the lot
last year. Whitehead asked to have the issue decided
regarding if the driveway was to be a private driveway or
vacated roadway.
Sime asked Whitehead if he would be willing to sell some of his
acreage so that Tipton could combine itwith their 1.3 acres.
March Whitehead of 1220 Lym.an Avenue stated that he might be
willing to sell some land , but he doesn' t know how much land he
has now. Whitehead noted if Tipton is willing to go to the
expense of surveying his land to find out exactly how much
acreage he owns, he might be willing to sell. Whitehead
noted that he hasn’t had time to investigate and see what his
options would be in the future if he sold some land to Tipton.
Whitehead stated that the neighbors are concerned that the
building will sit too high on the site and ask that the
building be lowered so as not to be too conspicious.
Whitehead asked that the City enforce the 2 acre minimum and
that approving this variance for 1.3 acres could set a
precedent.
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Mike S jeklocha stated that the high point of the home will not
be conspicious. Sjeklocha noted that the garage is even
with the existing building now. Sjeklocha noted that he was
not aware until tonight that there were problems with the
septic test sites not meeting the setbacks. Sjeklocha noted
that there should be no problem in 'iioving those sites to meet
the setbacks.
Kelley noted that a smaller horn;? would meet the septic test
sites and suggested reducing the sii.;. dome. Kelley
noted that the home could be built Vl*u» lot as long as
Gaffron approves the site.
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Goetten noted that the size of the house being proposed is too
large for the lot and would like to see something smaller.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 9:15 p.m.
Callahan noted that the drainfield testing site may be
ulright if the house was only 3 bedrooms.
McDonald movedf Sime seconded, to table Tipton Corporation's
application for a variance to allow the applicant time to
consider their options. Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
#919 T.M. SCHULTZE
1185 WYNDMERB ROAD
CONDITIONAL USB PERMIT
PUBLIC HEARING
10:36 - 10:53 PM Ted Schultze was present. Chairman Callahan called for the
public hearing concerning the after-the-fact conditional
use permit application by Ted Schultze. Building & Zoning
Administrator Mabusth noted the certificate of mailing and
the affidavit of publication. There was no one present from
the audience for this public hearing.
Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained that at
the time of the final inspection of the Ted Schultze
residence, staff noted the excavation of the pond. Mabusth
stated that the pond is approximately 10,000 sf in area and is
not located within a designated wetlands. Mabusth
explained that the pond serves as a collector basin for all
runoff from a small localized watershed. Mabusth noted that
the pond will not change or redirect the previous drainage
patterns nor have any negative effects on surrounding
properties.
Ted Schultze noted that he was not aware that he needed a
permit for the construction of a pond and that he was not
informed by staff of the need for a permit. Schultze noted
that his pond collects drainage from the surrounding
neighbors property and is equipped to handle all runoff in
the area. Schultze noted that this is not to be a wildlife
pond.
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#919 SCHULTZE
(CONT)Kelley asked staff for the definition of a wildlife pond
versus a decorative pond, ^
Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth answered that the
applicant first advises whether the pond is to be a wildlife
or decorative pond. Mabusth stated that if a wildlife pond
IS to be installed, there is a more extended review process by
other agencies. Mabusth noted that the physical difference
between the two ponds is that the wildlife pond has more
gadual slopes with an island. Mabusth explained that the
decorative pond has sharper or steeper banks and usually no
islands to encourage wildlife. Mabusth advised that the
decorative pond is deeper and water quality controlled with
noted that the applicant can place swans
nest th^ order to discourage other wildlife that might
pond^"*^*^ Callahan asked Schultze if he plans to aerate the
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 10:53 p.m.
Kelley moved, McDonald seconded, to recommend approval of
conditional use permit application of Ted
Schultze »ased on the following findings:
wetlands located within a designated
2.
Approval is subject to the following conditions:
Applicant must submit additional hydraulic information
such as the elevation of the pond and specific controls
on outlets and inlets, especially to the north if the
applicant considers this as a possible outlet.
2.Applicant to restore entire disturbed area with suitable
ground cover upon completion of land alteration.
Spoils stored on edge of pond to be used in restoration
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
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1920 LOU PBGERS
3590 NORTH SHORE DRIVE
VARIANCES
PUBLIC HEARING
10:54 - 11:15 PH Lou & Marilyn Fegers were present. Marty Bethke, contractor,
was also present. Chairman Callahan called for the public
hearing concerning Lou Feger's variance application.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted the
certificate of mailing and the affidavit of publication.
There was no one present in the audience for this public
hearing.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained Feger's
request to replace a structurally unsafe attached garage
with 1 ivi ng area. Gaf f ron stated that the attached garage' s
foundation i s cracking and in disrepair. Gaff ron noted that
the applicant plans to make tradeoffs in hardcover by
removing the portable shed and a walkway. Gaffron noted
even with the proposed tradeoffs in hardcover, in the 0-75'
^®^®®hore setback zone the hardcover would increase from
3.2% to 5.0% and in the 75-250' lakeshore setback zone from
53.8% to 56.8%.
Goetten asked Fegers if he proposes a garage.
Lou Fegers stated that he has no plans for a garage.
Kelley noted that in the chain of title it place a future owner
on notice that the hardcover on this property already exceeds
the maximum allowed and that future variances for a garage
may not be approved. Kelley asked what is kept in the shed.
Lou Fegers noted that gardening tools are kept in the storage
shed and that it is a portable shed. Fegers noted that he has
temporary planks that he puts on the ground so that he can have
access to the shed when the water is high.
Marty Bethke noted that they could use the special treatment
under the deck so that it would not be considered hardcover.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that his
hardcover calculations took into account the condition that
the applicant would remove the shed and the walkway.
Gaffron stated that the applicant could move the shed under
the deck.
McDonald noted that the hardship for the applicant in that he
has water on both sides.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 11:15 p.m.
Kelley moved, Taylor seconded, to recommend approval of the
findfngs^^' application based on the following
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#920 FEGERS (CONT)
1.
2.
Existing garage is in disrepair and is a hazard to the
health, safety, and welfare of the coimuunity.
Applicant has been subjected to two 0-75' lakeshore
setback zones since he is surrounded by water on both
sides.
3. Tradeoffs in hardcover decreases impact of proposal on
the lake.
Approval is subject to the following conditions:
1. Hardcover is limited in the 0-75' setback zone to 5.0%
and in the 75-250' setback zone to 56.8%, with lakeshore
setback as 63' or a variance of 12'.
2.
3.
4.
Applicant must remove shed and walkway to make tradeoffs
in hardcover.
Railings required on deck.
Applicant is placed on notice that any future vaivrnces
for hardcover may not be approved and that future owner
is placed on notice that the property is without a garage
and such variance application for a garage may not be
approved.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
#921 CHUCH VAN BBCRHOUT
2135 SALEM COURT
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING
11:18 - 11:26 PM Chuck Van Eeckhout was present. Chairman Callahan called for
the public hearing concerning Van Eeckhout's variance
application. Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted
the certificate of mailing and the affidavit of publication.
There was no one present for the audience for this
application.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained that this
variance application is a result of a construction error in
which the house was placed incorrectly by the applicant's
footing contractor and ended up too close to the lot line.
Gaffron noted that either a lot line rearrangement or a
variance is needed.
Chuck Van Eeckhout explained that the reason the mistake
happened is because there was about 10' of snow on the ground
at the time of the footing inspection. Van Eeckhout noted
that it. was virtually impossible to see the corner stakes at
that time. Van Eeckhout noted that at the time the footing
inspection was made, the footings for the garage had not been
dug and that the footing inspection was only for the home.
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#921 VAN EECKHOUT
(CONT)Van Eeckhout noted that the home met the setbacks at that
time, but once the footings for the garage weie dug it was
apparent that the setbacks were 11' from the lot line.
McDonald noted that the setbacks should have been confirmed
by the inspector at the time of the footing inspection and
should have known that the garage footings were forthcoming.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 11:26 p.m.
McDonald moved, Sime seconded, to recommend approval of the
variance application of Chuck Van Eeckhout based on staff's
error in verifying the setbacks at the time of the footing
inspection. Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
t924 JOHN SCHBRVBN
2649 CASCO POINT ROAD
CONDITIONAL USB PERMIT
PUBLIC HEARING
7:54 - 7:57 PM John Scherven was not present. Chairman Callahan called for
the public hearing concerning John Scherven's conditional
use permit application. Assistant Zoning Administrator
Gaf f ron noted the certificate of mailing and the affidavit of
publication. There was no one present for the audience for
this public hearing.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that the
applicant appeared before the Planning Commission in April
for an average setback variance and an addition with
hardcover tradeoff. Gaffron noted that the applicant is
requesting a guest apartment use to allow his parents to live
in the apartment.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 7:57 p.m.
Kelley moved, McDonald seconded, to recommend approval of
John Scherven' s conditional use permit application to permit
a guest use apartment subject to the following conditions:
1. The guest apartment is for use of family members only.
2. This guest apartment use may not be conveyed to any
purchaser of the property.
3. The guest apartment may not be rented out.
4. This use is subject to City review at the end of four
years.
Motion, Ayes (5), Nays (1). Planning Commission member
Goetten voted nay. Goetten felt that the lot should have the
area required in order to sustain the extra guest apartment
use.
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1923 SCBOBLL k MAOSON
565 LEAP STREET
SUBDIVISION
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW Larry Hanson, representative from Schocll 6 Madson, was
present. Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron reviewed
with the Planning Commission the applicant's proposal to
subdivide a 5.9 acre parcel into 3 lots with an average lov
size of 1.88 acres.
Goetten noted that the City has never been in the position to
approve substandard lots. Goetten noted that she would
consider 2 lots but not 3.
Larry Hanson noted that the existing building will be
removed.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that the
drainage easement area should not be included in the total
dry buildable area. Gaffron noted the total parcel of 5.9
acres minus the 11,000 sf of drainage easement equals 5.65
acres of dry buildable.
Lrrry Hanson noted that the "drainage" area is dry and
buildable but does carry water at certain times.
Kelley asked if the builder could acquire more land for his
proposal. Kelley noted a strip of land to the north and
south.
Larry Hanson stated that it is a consideration.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained that
Reverend Glen Chaffin, of the adjacent Church of Religious
Science, talked with him and noted that the fences do not
indicate the boundary lines.
Taylor explained that if there is 11,000 sf of wet area, and
the applicant is already 4,200 sf short of 6 acres, there
would be a total of 15,000 sf needed in order to provide for
drainage easement and to assure at least 2.0 acres for each
lot.
Larry Hanson questioned the City's definition of drainage
easement being unbuildable. Hanson noted that the actual
channel is narrow.
Chairman Callahan summarized Planning Commission's
viewpoints. Callahan noted that unless the applicant can
acquire 6 dry buildable acres that the commission will not
approve of 3 lots. Callahan informed the applicant that the
Planning Commission will only consider 2.0 acres per lot.
APPROVAL OP MINUTES
Sime moved, Goetten seconded, to formally approve the
Planning Commission minutes of April 15, 1985. Motion, Ayes
(6 ), Nays (0).
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REPRESENTATIVE TO ATTEND
COUNCIL MEETING Geotten volunteered to attend the Council meeting of June 10,
1985.
DISCUSSION OP INVITATION
TO ADMINISTRATOR Planning Commission extended to invitation to City
Administrator Bernhardson to attend the Planning Commission
meeting of June 17, 1985.
MARINA COMMITTEE APPOINTEES
Planning Commission selected representatives Kelley and
Sime to be appointed to the Marina Committee.
DISCUSSION OP HAZARDOUS
BUILDING Sime noted a hazardous bui Idi ng just west of Fegers and asked
staff to investigate.
ADJOUR IT 11:45 PM
Sime moved, Goetten seconded, to rdourn the regular Planning
Commission » ■'»*".ing at 11:45 p.m. Motion. Ayes (6), Nays
(0).
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