HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-15-1985 Planning MinutesPLANNING CX)MMISS10N MEETING
MONDAY, APRIL 15, 1985 7:30 P.M.
1275 BROWN ROAD SOUTH - COUNCIL CHAMBERS
OOUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE - Tim Adams
ATTENDANCE
SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. 7:30 p.m.
ACTION ITEMS
#906 S.G. McWilliams, 1120 South Willow Drive
Subdivision of Lot Line Rearrangement - Class x
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2. #895
3. #903
4, #905
5. #907
6. #908
7. 1909
T.M. Crosby, 1240-1260 Bracketts Point Road -
Subdivision of a Lot Line Rearrangement - Second Review
Ward Ferrell, 3405 Watertown Road -
Request to Confirm Interpretation of Zoning Code -
Public Hearing
Dennis Thompson, 250 Old Crystal Bay Road -
Conditional Use Permit - Public Hearing
James Bigham, 1545 Long Lake Boulevard -
Variance - Public Hearing
Jon Scherven, 2649 Casco Point Roa-i -
Variance - Public Hearing
Lowell Zitzloff, 3542 Shoreline Drive -
Commercial Site Plan Review
ADDITIONAL ITEMS
8. Planning Commission approval of March 18, 1985 minutes.
9. Planning Commission to select representative to attend the
May 13, 1985 Council meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
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ATTENDANCE 7;30 PM The Orono Planning Commission met on the above date with the
following members present; Chairman Callahan, Rovegno,
Sime, Kelley, McDonald and Taylor. Planning Commission
member Goetien was not present. Council Representative Tim
Adams was present. Building & Zoning Administrator
Mabusth, Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron, and
Recorder Sutton represented the City staff.
#906 S.G. MCWILLIAMS
1120 SOUTH WILLOW DRIVE
SUBDIVISION OP LOT LINE
REARRANGEMENT
PUBLIC HEARING
7:30 - 8:00 PM Mr. Shirley McWilliams was present. Chairman Callahan
announced that now was the time and place for the public
hearing to be held concerning a subdivision of a lot line
rearrangement. There was no one present in the audience for
this application.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth noted the certificate of
mailing and the affidavit of publication. Mabusth
explained McWilliams' proposal to rearrange the shared lot
line between his deceased mother's property (1120 Willow
Drive) and his homestead lot (1130 Willow Drive). Mabusth
noted that he proposes a straight line division rather than a
jogged line around the detached structure of 24' x 30'.
Mabusth stated that the proposed Crystal Bay sewer project
will be decided on after April 22, 1985. Mabusth noted that
it is staff's understanding that the two lots will use a
shared driveway.
Shirley McWilliams stated that he is not proposing a shared
driveway and felt that 1120 should be allowed its own access
to a public street. McWilliams stated that an old driveway
existed since 1937.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that the division as
proposed would place severe limitations on 1130 Willow Drive
if the Crystal Bay sewer project is not ordered. Mabusth
stated that 1120 Willow Drive and 1130 Willow Drive also
share a well and that the City would require a separate well
drilled for 1120 Willow Drive before the property is sold.
Mabusth stated that according to the as-builts, a sewer line
appears to be located right on the lot line.
Taylor noted that the proposal doesn't leave much room for
future septic expansion, a new driveway location, or a new
well. Taylor suggested jogging the lot lines to accommodate
for these additions.
Kelley felt that the proposal should be with a shared
driveway and that the lot lines should be jogged.
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#906 S.G. MCWILLIAMS
Chairman Callahan noted that if the drainfield or septic
system failed that there would be no room for expansion.
Callahan closed the public hearing at 8:00 p.m.
Rovegno moved, Kelley seconded, to table the subdivision of
Shirley McWilliams until the May 20, 1985, Planning
Commission meeting until the Crystal Bay sewer project
status has been resolved and for the proposed driveway to be
shown on the plan. Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
#895 T.M. CROSBY
1240-1260 BRACKETTS POINT ROAD
SUBDIVISION OP LOT LINE
REARRANGEMENT
SECOND REVIEW T.M. Crosby was not present. John & Katharine Pillsbury of
312 Woodhill Road were present.
Chairman Callahan noted that this was tabled at the last
Planning Commission meeting to make sure that ell the parties
involved knew exactly what was going on and u.iere the actual
lot lines would be.
John Pillsbury Jr. stated that T.M. Crosby is his brother-in-
law and that they have discussed in great detail the outcome
of this proposal. Pillsbury stated that he has no problems
with the proposal.
Rovegno moved, Kelley seconded, to recommend approval of the
separation of PID 11-1.17-23 32 0004 from the two contiguous
rural parcels owned by Eleanor Lawler Pillsbury, the
division or rearrangement of PID 11-117-23 32 0005 and a
permanent area variance for undeveloped Pillsbury property
based on one or more of the following findings:
1.
2.
The division will not increase the overall density.
The applicant's current property contains .92 acres of
area—the 75' setback area and the house and
improvements limit future septic expansion on the
existing property.
3. There is suitable and adequate area for principal and
alternate septic systems on the undeveloped building
site.
There is adequate area for a house to be located within
the building envelope of the undeveloped property.
A permanent residence had existed on PID 11-117-23 32
0005 up to 1979.
4.
5.
6. There is no additional undeveloped, contiguous land
available.
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f895 T.M. CROSBY Approval is subject to the following conditions:
1.PID 11-117-23 32 0004 and northern portion of rearranged
PID 11-117-23 32 0005 to be combined with Crosby
homestead lot.
2.PID 11-117-23 32 0006 and southern portion of rearranged
PID 11-117-23 32 0005 to be legally combined for tax
purposes.
3.All future construction on undeveloped lot thac involves
the alteration of flood plain fringe areas must be
reviewed and approved by the DNR before a building permit
can be issued by the City of Orono.
4.Tested septic site area on undeveloped lot must be staked
and protected prior to construction.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
#903 WARD FERRELL
3405 WATERTOWN ROAD
REQUEST TO CONFIRM
INTERPRETATION OP
ZONING CODE
PUBLIC HEARING
8:10-8:49 PM Ward and Mary Ferrell were present. Chairman Callahan
announced that now was the time and place for the public
hearing to be held concerning Ward Ferrell's application to
confirm the staff's interpretation of the zoning code.
There was no one present from the public for this
application.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted the
certificate of mailing and the affidavit of publication.
Ward Ferrell explained that in 1948 they bought the property
on Watertown Road. Ferrell stated that in 1958 they decided
to divide the property to build a new home. Ferrell stated
that he was informed by staff at that time that he had to
appear before the Council. Ferrell stated that everyone
agreed on the Council, except one person. Ferrell stated
that this property was divided at the previous Mayor's (Herb
Ross) request. Ferrell agreed and he met the zoning at that
time and noted that he could have had 5 lots but chose four
lots to make bigger lots. Ferrell explained that the
surrounding lots are all the same size. Ferrell stated that
the zoning has since changed.
Assistant Zon.nq Administrator Gaffron reviewed with the
Planning Commission that in 1967 this area was zoned 1 acre.
Gaffron stated that from 1967-1975, Ferrell could have built
on those lots without variances. Gaffron noted that in 1975
the area was rezoned to 2 acre. Gaffron explained that in a
similar case on Shoreline Drive, the Council uenied the
applicant the variances giving the City a clear policy in the
common ownership issue within the rural areas of Orono.
Gaffron reviewed with the Planning Commission the tax
history of the property.
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#903 WARD FERRELL Rovcgno noted that for 20 years it has been taxed as a separate
buildable site and for the past 3 years it has not been taxed
as a buildable site.
Ward Ferrell stated that he has kept the property all these
years thinking he could build on each parcel and he noted he
would like to build his retirement home on one of the parcels.
Ferrell noted he has owned the property since 1950 and is
entitled to build.
Planning Commission agreed with staff's interpretation of
the zoning code that the property needs a variance.
Chairman Callahan suggested that the Planning Commission be
polled as to their feeling on the application if it were an
actual variance request.
Kelley fel^. that Lots 7 and 8 should be combined into one lot,
thereby only allowing two lots [the existing lot with the
existing home and one other lot (7 & 8 combined)].
Mary Ferrell stated that the code is not consistent and is
contradictory in that the zoning has changed along with the
code over the years.
Sime felt that there is very little doubt that staff
interpreted the zoning code correctly, but whether he agrees
with the basic premise is another point. Sime felt that
there are a bundle of rights that go with the land and should
not be taken away from people by changing the rules or zoning
while they still own the land. Sim? stated that the common
ownexsii.p issue seems to alter the rules for people.
Most of the Planning Commission felt they could only approved
two lots [the existing lot with the existing home and one
other lot] conditioned upon Lots 7 and 8 being combined.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 8:49 p.m.
Rovegno moved, Sime seconded, to confirm staff's
interpretation of the zoning code that these lots do need
variances. Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
Rovegno felt that a less intense use of the property would be
more reasonable by combining Lot 7 and 8 and that way the
applicants would only need a lot area variance and not a lot
width variance.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that this application
was brought in under a request to confirm the interpretation
of the zoning code in order to save the applicants money.
Mabusth noted that a completed application would require
payment for area variances for each proposed and existing
building site in addition to septic testing for each
undeveloped site and an alternate test site for existing
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house. Mabusth noted that staff concluded that in light of
Council's recent amendment of the zoning code dealing with
rural lots under common ownership and their decision on the
Shoreline Drive property of Alden Anderson^ that this
approach was the most inexpensive way to get an answer for the
applicant.
#905 DBNMIS THOMPSON
250 OLD CRYSTAL BAY ROAD
CONDITIONAL USB PERMIT
PUBLIC HEARING
8sS0 - 8:51 PM Dennis Thompson was not present. Chairman Callahan announced
that now was the time and place for a public hearing
concerning Dennis Thompson's conditional use permit
application. Zoning Administrator Mabusth noted the
certificate of mailing and the affidavit of publication.
There was no one present in the audience for this
application. Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing
at 8:51 p.m.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that during
construction on the Thompson home, staff noted a second
kitchen and a separate apartment area being constructed and
felt that a conditional use permit should be applied for.
Mabusth stated that Thompson has agreed that the guest
apartment will never be rented out.
Kelley moved, Sime seconded, to recommend approval of a
conditional use permit for the guest partment within the
residence located at 250 Old Crystal Bay Road finding all
standards of Section 10.20, Subdivision 3(G) to be
statisfied subject to the condition that the separate
apartment unit may never be rented. Motion, Ayes (6), Nays
(0).
*907 JAMBS BIGHAM
1545 LONG LAKE BLVD
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING
8:52 - 9:12 PM James Bigham was present. Chairman Callahan announced that
now was the time and place for the public hearing concerning
James Bigham's variance request. There was no one present
from the audience for this application. Assistant Zoning
Administrator Gaffron noted the certificate of mailing and
the affidavit of publication.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained that the
applicant is requesting a variance to construct an addition
to his home which will increase the hardcover in both 0-75*
and 75-250' setback zones. Gaffron stated that the addition
will increase the potential water usage since they plan to
construct a bedroom. Gaffron noted that Bigham replaced his
septic system in November of 1984, but tliat there are no
alternate drainfield sites on ti>e propei ty and that if the
new system fails at some point and it could not be repaired, a
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holding tank would be required. Gaffron stated that the
real concern is when the house is sold and an eight member
family could move in and this could have a major impact on the
septic system.
Taylor asked how many bathrooms the house would have after
the proposed construction is finished.
James Bigham stated that there is 1 full bathroom with 2 1/2
bathrooms existing now and they are proposing one additional
full bathroom with another half bathroom. Bigham noted the
total of 1 full baths and 3 half baths.
Rovegno asked the applicant if he would consider building up
instead of out.
Kelley suggested expanding the second floor above the
garage.
Bigham stated that with the proposed dining room expansion it
would not be feasible to expand second floor above the
garage. Bigham noted that it also isn't feasible to go up
instead of out.
McDonald noted that sometimes a house gets bigger than the
property cannot handle.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 9:12 p.m.
Taylor felt that the modest increase within the 0-75' and 75-
250' setback area was not a burden. Taylor noted that the
addition to the house will not be any closer to the shoreline
than the existing house is now or other houses in the
neighborhood.
Rovegno noted the negative side of the application is that if
the septic system fails he has to install holding tanks.
Rovegno felt that in the resolution which is filed in the
chain of title that the future owner should be placed on
notice that if the system fails that the owner would be
required to install holding tanks.
James Bigham felt that eventually all the homes in that area
will be on holding tanks because of the lack of area for a
proper system.
Sime felt hesitant in approving a variance when the property
may have septic problems, but felt it would be alright to
grant a variance as long as a future owner is cautioned about
the septic situation through a resolution filed in the chain
of title.
Kelley moved, Sime seconded, to recommend approval of the
variance application by James Bigham based on the following:
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#907 JAMES BIGHAM 1.Total hardcover within the lakeshore setback area will
be 3.3% within the 0-75' setback area and 39.7% within
the 75-250' setback area.
2. Applicant has worked very hard in improving the run off
with the terracing of the yard.
3. Applicant has recently installed a septic system in
November, 1984.
4.Staff draft a resolution to be filed in the chain of title
noting the septic situation and cautioning a future
owner about the possible septic problems.
5. Applicant's proposal is the only place to expand on the
lot because of the topography of the land.
6. Conditions 1, 2 and 5 of previous Resolution #1600 be
completed in a timelv manner.
7. No future variances will be granted based on the
limitations of the property.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
#908 JON SCHERVBN
2649 CASCO POINT ROAD
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING
9:25 - 10:00 PM Jon and A1 Scherven were present. Chairman Callahan
announced that now was the time and place for the public
hearing concerning Jon Scherven's variance. Assistant
Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted the certificate of
mailing and the affidavit of publication. There was no one
present from the public for this application.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that the
applicant is proposing to bui Id a two-story addition over the
existing concrete slab and deck on the lake side of his
parents home. Gaffron noted that in the construction plans
a second kitchen is proposed to act as a second dwelling unit
that his parents would live in. Gaffron noted that the
applicant proposed equal amounts of hardcover tradeoff.
Rovegno noted that he has no problem with the variance
because of the trade off factor but that he has a problem with
the conditional use permit because the property does not have
adequate area to support a second dwelling unit.
Kelley felt that the City could place the same restrictions
on Scherven's application as they did in the Beck's
application. Kelley felt that the resolution should bo
filed in the chain of title and require that the conditional
use permit not transfer to a new owner.
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1908 JON SCBBRVBM Taylor suggested using the same conditions as in the Beck
Resolution 11687 as follows;
1. The guest apartment is for use of family members only.
2. This guest apartment use may not be convoyed to any
purchaser of the property.
3. The guest apartment may not be rented out.
4. This use is subject to City review at the end of four
years.
Jon Scherven stated that he will need more than four years as
his parents plan to retire there. Scherven noted that the
house needs upgrading and he proposes to do that.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth asked if there was a separate
entrance to the guest apartment use.
Jon Scherven stated that there is the main entrance to the
vestibule and then a door leading downstairs and a door
leading to the upper level of the house.
Rovegno noted that thi s would be like a duplex on a quarter of
an acre. Rovengo felt that this was not enough area.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 10:00 p.m.
Taylor move, Sime seconded, to recommend approval of the
variance based on the hardship of the location of the
existing building and that such approval of variance is
subject to removal of an equivalent amount of existing
hardcover and the deck may not have concrete underneath the
deck if it extends into the 0-75' setback area and to further
recommend that the applicant be required to pay the fee for a
conditional use permit subject to the following;
1. The guest apartment is for use of f amily members only.
2. Th; s guest apartment use may not be conveyed to a
purchaser of the property.
3. The guest apartment may not be rented out and such to be
confirmed by staff yearly.
4. This use is subject to City review at the end of four
years.
Motion, Ayes (5), Nays (1). Planning Commission member
Rovegno voted nay. Rovegno felt that the property did not
have adequate area to support a second dwelling unit.
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•909 LOWBLL ZITZLOPP
3542 SBORBLINB DRIVE
COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN
REVIEW Lowell Zitzloff was present. Zitzloff explained that the
proposed use for the building is for retail use and for
Lowell's Auto Parts store.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained to the applicant that
there are still outstanding items that the City will need
before the application is scheduled for Council review.
Zitzloff explained that he will cooperate with staff if
anything else is. required.
Sime moved, Rovegno seconded, to recommend approval of the
commercial site plan subject to the f ol lowij'.'o being
submitted prior to Council review:
1. Revised comprehensive parking plan required.
2. Detailed information on signage.
3. Physical makeup of retention area -- paved, grassed
if grassed need for rip rap at entrance of orifice.
4.
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If both lots are to be used in common, all land
alterations of developed lot (east) must be shown in a
total plan as with the landscape plan.
Report froiii City Engineer.
6. County approval of new access.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
APPROVAL OP MINUTES
Callahan moved, Sime seconded, to approve the Planning
Commission minutes of March 18 , 1985, as submitted. Motion,
Ayes (6), Nays (0).
REPRESENTATIVE TO
ATTEND COUNCIL MEETING
OP MAY 13, 1985 McDonald stated that she would attend the Council meeting of
May 13 if it rains, and Callahan would attend the meeting if it
is sunny.
HOWARD JOHNSON
APPEARANCE POR
CONCEPTUAL DIRECTION
Howard Johnson was present. Zoning Aiiministrator Mabusth
explained that Howard Johnson was instructed by the Council
to propose a conventional plat and not a PRD concept for his
property.
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Howard Johnson asked for Planning Commission *s opinion on
his proposal.
Planning Commission advised Johnson that they also would
like to see a conventional plat with no more than 7-0 units.
nRimm 10:35 PM
SJme moved, Rovegno seconded, to adjourn the regular meeting
at 10:35 p.m. Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
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