HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-19-1985 Planning MinutesPLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 1985 7:30 P.H.
1275 BRGMN ROAD SOOTH - COUNCIL CHAMBOtS
COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE - Lynn Adams
SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. 7:30 p.m. #868 Catharine A. Cram, 3760 Watertown Road -
Metes and Bounds - Class I Subdivision
2. 7:45 p.m. #889 Eugene Nelson, Big Island Record Lots 16 & 22
Lot Line Rearrangement - Class I Subdivision
3. 8:30 p.m. Proposed Amendment of the Flood Plain and
Wetlands Management Section of the Zoning Code.
ACTION ITEMS
4. #884 Richard Eller, 2655 Shadywood Road -
Variance
#891 J.D. Miller, 1105 Tonkawa Road -
Varian::e - Public Hearing
#892 Thomas Mortenson, 1971 Fagerness Point Road
Variance - Public Hearing
#893 Summerfield Farms, 3800 Wayzata Blvd. -
Conditional Use Permit — Public Hearing
ADDITIONAL ITEMS
8. Planning Commission approval of January 21, 1985 minutes.
9. Planning Commission to select representative to attend the
March 11, 1985 Council meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
MINUTES OP THE ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 19, 1985 PAGE 1
ATTENDANCE 7:30 PM The Planning Commission met on the above date with the
following members present: Chairman Callahan, Kelley,
Rovegno, Sime, and newly appointed member Paul Taylor.
Planning Commission member Goetten arrived at 8:41 p.m.
Planning Commission member McDonald was absent. Building
and Zoning Administrator Mabusth and Recorder Sutton
represented the City staff. Council Representative Lynn
Adams was also present.
1888 CATHARINE CRAM
3760 WATERTOWN RD
METES 6 BOUNDS
SUBDIVISION
PUBLIC HEARING
7:30 - 7:43 PM Catharine Cram was present. Zoning Administrator Mabusth
noted the affidavit of publication and certificate of
mailing. Neighbor Loren Butterfield of 3926 Watertown Road
was present from the audience for this public hearing.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained that this is a
division of the applicant's homestead creating one new
residential unit of 10 acres. Mabusth noted that the second
residence cannot be designated as a guest house because it is
a rental unit and so should be recognized as a non-conforming
use and subject to all pertinent ordinances.
Loren Butterfield stated that this is the typo of subdivision
he likes to see in this neighborhood.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 7:43 p.m.
after the neighbor's comments were heard.
Rovegno noted that the net 9 acre lot will not be subdividable
in the future because it is in a 5 acre zoning district and
would need 10 acres to be subdividable. Rovegno noted that
if the City requires a quit claim deed over the right-of-way,
the City would essentially be creating a new lot with another
tax statement. Rovegno asked if Mrs. Cram would want this
new lot.
Catharine Cram stated that she only wants the one lot
subdivided.
Rovegno noted the City's options in that the City can acquire
the quit cla im deed but recognize that this lot is one lot and
not separated by the quit claim deed. Rovegno noted the
other option is to waive the quit claim deeding for any right
of way for the City.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that the assessor should
have input on this application as to whether Mrs. Cram should
consider a special lot combination.
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#888 CRAM (CONT)
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Chairman Callahan asked why the City is requesting a quit
claim deed from a portion of the property that is not even
involved with this subdivision.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that it has been a
standard policy of the City to acquire right-of-way and since
we are dealing with a metes and bounds division, the City asks
for a quit claim deed.
Kelley felt that it was unfair for the City to divide the lot
for Mrs. Cram if she doesn't want that extra lot.
Sime noted that no future subdivision of Parcel A would be
permitted.
Rovegno moved, Kelley seconded, to recommend approval of a
metes and bounds subdivision of the property located at 3760
Watertown Road for Catharine Cram creating one new
residential unit finding all standards for the RR—IA zoning
district have been satisfied with such approval subject to
the L’cllowing conditions:
1. Conservation and flowage easement over wetlands in
Parcel A.
2.
3.
Payment of Park fee for Parcel A of $100.
Second residence on Parcel B is a non-conforming
structure and subject to all pertinent ordinances.
4.Resolution of the right-of-way issue be resolved between
applicant, staff, city attorney, and assessor.
5.No future subdivision of Parcel A based on current zoning
standards.
Motion, Ayes (5), Nays (0)
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#889 EUGENE NELSON
BIG ISLAND RECORD LOT #16
LOT LINE REARRANGEMENT
SUBDIVISION
PUBLIC HEARING
7:56 - 8:16 PM
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Eugene Nelson was not present. J.T. Smedberg was present to
represent his interest in the subject property. Zoning
Administrator Mabusth noted the certificate of mailing and
the alfKIivit of publication. Mabusth noted that this
appl i ion is to forma llydividea strip of lakeshore on Big
Island for tax purposes. Mabusth stated that this
subdivision is serving to tie up some loose ends created in
1970 when the registered land was divided without City
approval.
J.T. Smedberg stated that Oronc made this proposal a few
years ago to Eugene Nelson and Nelson never responded.
Smedberg noted that the property at that time was owned by
three different persons. Smedberg noted that the RS Zoning
District was created for seasonal use and were grouped
together according to family ownership. Smedberg stated
that Nelson's sister owned some of the property and then he
bought the property from Eugene Nelson.
Chairman Callahan closed the public hearing at 8:16 p.m.
Sime felt that he could not act on the application tonight
because of the misunderstandings between applicant, new
owner, and staff.
Sime moved, Taylor seconded, to table Nelson's lot line
rearrangement application in order to allow time for staff to
work with new owner and applicant. Motion, Ayes (5), Nays
(0).
Planning Conunission asked staff to submit a report
concerning the RS Zoning District on Big Island and the
intent of such ordinance along with the separation of
ownership by right-of-way (roads) on Big Island.
PROPOSED AMENDMENT OP THE
FLOOD PLAIN/WETLANDS MANAGEMENT
SECTION OF CODE
PUBLIC HEARING
9:50 - 9:58 PM Zoning Administrator Mabusth noted the affidavit of
publication. Mabusth explained the the Department of
Natural Resources (DNR) has setforth different setback
standards for specific lakes and a drainageway within the
City.
Rovegno asked staff to find where it requires the City to
adopt the DNR's regulations.
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Planning Conunission felt they could not act on this amendment
to the code tonight and needed further information.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that the Planning
Commission is not being asked to approve the ordinance
amendment tonight but to merely make comments for Council and
staff to consider. Mabusth noted the formal ordinance will
be drafted later this year.
Chairman Callahan moved, Rovegno seconded, to table the
flood plain and wetlands amendment to the code until the next
Planning Commission meeting to allow staff to investigate
into this amendment further. Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
#884 RICHARD ELLER
2655 SHADYVroOD ROAD
VARIANCE
Richard Eller was not present. D.C. Messer of 2673 Pheasant
Road and E.J. Stanke of 2660 Pheasant Road were present from
the audience for this application.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained that the application
has been rescheduled before the Planning Commission because
the neighbors have failed to communicate and resolve the
issue. Mabusth stated that she checked with Chaska Marina
to verify the claim that Eller made regarding the moving of
the boat and the damage it would sustain if moved at this
point, and Chaska Marina confirmed that there would be damage
to the boat, if moved.
Sime felt, that in light of the fact that over 30 people had
signed a petition requesting that Orono enforce this City
ordinance, he felt compelled to follow their wishes. Sime
strongly felt that the City must enforce the ordinances or
change them when citizens complain. Sime also noted that
since the neighbors could not resolve the issue, that the
boat should be removed and the ordinance enforced.
D.C. Messer of 2673 Pheasant Road stated that he himself
arranged to hav'e Eller park his boat in Cookston's yard, but
Eller has refused saying that the boat is frozen to the
ground. Messer noted that the boat is on a trailer. Messer
noted that Stanke has had his home for sale and that several
buyers have been sea red off because of the eyesore of El ler' s
boat .
E.J. Stanke of 2660 Pheasant Road stated that this whole
thing started when he cal led City Hal 1 and asked what happens
if someone is in violation of the ordinances. Stanke
explained that he was told that if someone is found to be in
violation of the ordinances that a letter is written giving
the person a deadline and then a second letter is written and
then a citation is issued if the person still has not complied
with the City's order. Stanke stated that the first letter
was written back in November and now it is February and the
boat is still not moved. Stanke asked that the City enforce
MINUTBS OP THR ORONO PTANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 19, 1985 PAGE 5
•884 RICHARD ELLER
•891 J.D. MILLER
1105 TONKAWA ROAD
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING
8:40 - 9:03 PM
their own ordinances. Stanke felt that if the City isn't
going to enforce the ordinances then the City shouldn't have
adopted those ordinances. Stanke explained that Eller does
not have any hardship because other oversized boats in the
neighborhood are stored at commercial marinas or elsewhere.
Rovegno noted that the City owes it to its own citizens to
enforce the ordinances upon complaint or request and the
citizens are entitled to such enforcement promptly.
Sime moved, Kelley seconded, to recommend denial of the
variance for Richard Eller to permit the storage of an
oversized boat on his residential property and further
recommends that Council expedite the prompt moving of the
boat in order to enforce the existing ordinance, with such
denial based on the following findings:
1.Planning Commission doesn't see the validity of the
hardships claimed by Eller because there is adequate
area on the lot in a less obnoxious location to store the
oversized boat.
2.Planning Commission doesn't find any hardship in moving
the boat that is currently sitting on a trailer which has
wheels.
Motion, Ayes (5), Nays (0).
Planning Commission member Goetten arrived at 8:40.
J.D. Miller was present along with Donald Pertinen and L.J.
Millerl, designers/architects. Zoning Administrator
Mabusth noted the certificate of mailing and the affidavit of
publication. There was no one present from the audience for
this application.
Donald Pertinen explained that the existing foundation,
which is almost entirely into the 0-75' setback zone, would
be removed and are proposing to remove this structure and
build a new home which would encroach a relatively minimal
amount on the 0-75' setback zone. Pertinen explained that
hardcover within the 0-75' setback zone would decrease from
11 percent to 4 percent and hardcover in the 75-250' zone
would increase from 16 percent to 22 percent. Pertinen
noted that this proposal would improve the drainage on the
site considerably.
Sime asked what the plans were for the boat house.
Donald Pertinen stated that the applicant's intent was to
keep the boat house and replace part of the retaining wall
that holds up the boat house.
J.D. Miller stated that he would like to keep the boat house if
it is stable enough.
Kelly noted that the proposed hardcover is a little too
much for this property.
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1891 J.D. MILLER Donald Pertinon noted that most of the hardcover is the
driveway down to the proposed qarage. Pertinent stated that
it is better to have a little more hardcover to allow
turnaround on the property. Pertinen explained that some
extensive grading will have to be done to improve the
drainage on the property.
Goetten asked for the approximate square footage of the boat
house. Goetten noted that the plan is a little ambitious.
J.D. Miller stated the boat house is approximately 150 square
feet. Miller stated that some trees will have to be removed
but he plans to replant.
Kelley asked if the proposal included a walkway down to the
lakeshore.
J.D. Miller noted that there is an existing concrete walkway
which needs repairing and he plans to replace it with a wooden
walkway.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth noted that staff will need a
landscape plan and grading plan for the engineer to review.
Mabusth noted that a conditional use permit fee should be
paid since extensive grading will be done to the site.
Kelley moved, Simc seconded, moved to recommend approval of
the hardcover and setback variances to construct a new home
and garage for J.D. Miller subject to the following findings:
1.Existing foundation is within the 0-75' setback zone of
the lakeshore and is improving the site by moving the
proposed home back away from the lakeshore.
2. Existing trees and topography prevent any other location
of the proposed home.
3. Applicant is improving the drainage on the site with the
proposed swale.
4. Applicant is reducing the hardcover within the 0-75*
setback zone from 11 percent to 4 percent.
Approval is subject to the following conditions:
1. Applicant to submit grading and landscaping plan for
staff and engineer review prior to scheduling
application for Council review.
2.Boat house is a non-conforming structure and subject to
all pertinent ordinances.
3.Applicant is placed on notice that future variances
regarding future hardcover on the property may not be
approved.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
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#892 TH(»IAS MORTBNSON
1971 FAGBRNBSS POINT RD
VARIAHCB
PUBLIC HEARING
9:04 - 9:23 PM Thomas Mortenson was present. Zoning Administrator Mabusth
noted the certificate of mailing and the affidavit of
publication. There was no one present from the audience for
this application.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained that Mortenson seeks
a setback and hardcover variance to construct a house
addition and attached garage. Mabusth noted that the
proposed plan creates a safer atmosphere in that with the
«v- . ched garage there will be adequate turnaround provided
or. 'hr property.
Thomas Mortenson noted that there will be a slight decrease
in hardcover in the 0-75' zone from 13.2 percent to 12.6
percent. Mortenson stated that the existing garage is 2' on
the neighbors property and 4' in the street right of way.
Mortenson stated that he plans to remove the flatstone
walkway and replace it with the house addition.
Sime noted that the removal of the existing garage is an
eyesore and a traffic hazard, and it would be an asset to the
neighborhood when removed.
Goetten noted that the increase in hardcover in the 75-250'
setback zone from 17.2 percent to 32.1 percent is a big
request. Goetten asked if the applicant could scale the
proposal down any. Goetten did note that the applicant has
been subjected to a 75' setback on both sides of his property
because of the Takeshore.
Thomas Mortenson noted that his proposal is consistent with
the neighborhood. Mortenson noted that any reduction in the
proposal adds more hardcover to the driveway.
Kelley asked if any trees would be removed and asked about
landscaping and the retaining walls. Kelley asked what
materials the steps would be made of.
Thomas Mortenson stated that two trees will be removed.
Mortenson noted that the sloping topography may require
retaining walls if the topography doesn't allow sodding.
Goetten asked for a recalculation of hardcover in that the
applicant could come up with ways to construct steps and
maybe deck without hardcover.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth noted that the City needs to
review a grading and landscaping plan.
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#892 MORTENSON
(CONT)
Kelley moved, Goetten seconded, to approve the setback and
hardcover variance request to construct a house addition and
attached garage based on the following findings:
1.Hardcover in the 0-75' lakeshore setback zone will
decrease slightly from 13.2 percent to 12.6 percent.
2.Topography of land prevents applicant from
constructing elsewhere on the property.
3.Existing garage is on neighbors property and street
right of way and proposal creates a safer entrance to
property.
4. The property is unique in that is it subjected to two 75'
setback zones.
Approval is subject to the following conditions:
1. Hardcover in the 75-250' lakeshore setback zone is
limited to 30 percent.
2. Drainage and grading plans must be submitted for staff
and engineer review prior to scheduling application for
Council review.
3.Landscape plans (including retaining walls, if needed)
must also be submitted.
4. Proper remove 1 of existing garage and f il 1 ing of hole and
sodding of area.
5. Future hardcover on this property may not be approved by
Counci 1.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
1893 SUMMBRFIBLD FARMS
3800 WAYZATA BLVD
CONDITIONAL USB PBRMIT
PUBLIC HEARING
9:24 - 9:45 PM Glenn Nellist and Lowell Schapcr were present representing
Summerfield Farms. Zoning Administrator Mabusth noted the
certificate of mailing and the affidavit of publication.
Cliff Otten was present from the audience for this
application.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that the Summerfield
Farms market wishes to add a mini-bake and delicatessen
operation (preparing party trays ) within the exist ing retai 1
area of the store. Mabusth noted that the delicatessen
operation will require a license from the Hennepin County
Community Health Department. Mabusth noted that the
installation of the oven is no problem as long as they abide by
the Uniform Building and Fire Codes. Mabusth asked the
Planning Commission if they felt that the uses proposed were
an intensification of a non-conforming use.
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#893 SUMMBRPIBLD FARMS
Rovegno felt that it was not an intensification of a non-
conforming use as long as the store did not become a full
fledged bakery that delivers to other stores. Rovegno felt
the minimal use of the bakery to bake croissants and other
bakery goods would be fine.
Glenn Nellist noted the difference between the bakeries and
their store was that they will not be baking from scratch
(flour, dough, etc).
Chairman Callahan asked about the delicatessen and how the
City would control the store from becoming a catering
business or restaurant. Callahan explained that the City
must be concerned with the future use of this building too.
Glenn Nellist assured the Planning Commission that he had no
interest in becoming a restaurant. Nellist stated that one
picnic table might be placed in front of the restaurant to
allow local bikers to sit down on a table rather than the
ground.
Cliff Otten stated that anything that would help the business
should be considered. Otten stated that there are no
problems with the business as long as it stays in business; it
is when the store is not in business that it becomes a problem.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that by placing the
picnic table on the site, the store would be encouraging the
customers to eat on the site.
Rovegno moved, Sime seconded, to recommend approval of the
conditional use permit application of Glenn Nellist and
Lowell Schaper to permit a mini bake and delicatessen
operation at the Summer field Farms Market at 3800 Wayzata
Blvd based on the following findings;
1.The new uses will not involve permanent structural
changes or additions to existing structure.
2.The new uses will not involve expansion of the retail
area.
3. The new uses wi 11 not encourage customers to consume food ^
on the premises as with a restaurant use.
4. The new uses appear consistent with the original intent
and scope of the market as set forth in Resolution #1646.
Approval is subject to the following conditions;
1. All equipment installed to support the mini bake
operation is subject to the standards of the Uniform
Building Code and Fire Code.
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1893 SUMMERPIELD FARMS
2.The applicants must apply for a license from the Hennepin
County Community Health Department for the delicatessen
use.
3.Applicants allowed only one picnic table to be placed
within outdoor sales area on east side of structure.
4. Food items must be purchased at the counter before
consumption of the product and carried to picnic table by
the customer.
Motion, Ayes (6), Nays (0).
COMMENTS BY PLANNING
COMMISSION Sime felt that the Council should reconsider their
limitation placed on a Planning Commission members in that it
only allows members to serve two terms.
Sime also asked that staff prepare an extra copy of the
Council agenda packet for the Planning Commission
representatives that attend the Council meetings.
APPROVAL OP MINUTES Goetten moved, Sime seconded, to approve the Planning
Commission minutes of January 21 , 1985. Motion, Ayes (6),
Nays (0).
COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE
TO ATTEND COUNCIL
MEETING 3-11-85 Chairman Callahan volunteered to attend the Council meeting
on March 11, 1985.
ADJOURNMENT
10:19 PM The Planning Commission adjourned at 10:19 p.m.