HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-16-1986 Planning MinutesPLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, JUNE 161 1986 7:30 P.M.
1275 BROWN ROAD SOUTH - COUNCIL
COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE - Tim Adams
ATTENDANCE
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1. 7 : 30 P.M. #1036 Nancy Ferrell - Vacation of a 30 foot wide
unimproved public right-of-way adjacent to Wi ldhurst
Trail,
ACTION ITEMS
2. #1026 Mike Hilbelink/John Vogt, 160 Old Crystal Bay Road
Preliminary Subdivision
3. #1034 R. Scott Prochnow, 3440 North Shore Drive -
Variance - Public Hearing
4. #1035 Robert Koehnen, 537 Hanlon Avenue -
Variance - Public Hearing
5. #1037 John B. Busse, 1951 Concordia Stieet -
Conditional Use Permit - Public Hearing
5. #1038 Gordon N. Nelson, 1310 Elmwood Avenue -
Variance - Public Hearing
7. #1039 William Ulrich,
1535
Bohn's Point
Road -
Condit.ional Use
Permit
- Public
Hearing
8. #1040 William Ulrich, 1535 Rohr's Point. Road -
Conditional Use Permit - Public Hearing
9. #1041 Thomas J. Maxwell, 3685 Watertown Road -
Variance - Public Hearing
ADDITIONAL ITEMS
10. Planning Commission approval of May 15, 1986 Minutes.
11. Planning Commission to select a representative to attend the
July 14, 1986 Council Meet:: ng.
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD JUNE 16, 1986
ATTMWANCE 7:30 P.M.
The Orono Planning Commission met on the above date with
the following members present: Chairman Ke 1 ley,
Bellows, Rovegno, Goetten, McDonald, Callahan, and
Taylor. the following represented the City staff:
Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth, Assistant
Zoning Administrator Gaffron, and City Recorder
Peterson. Councilmember Adams was also present.
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t # 10 3 6 NANCY FBRRBLL
VACATION OF A 30 FOOT WIDE UNIMPROVED
PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY ADJACENT TO
WILDHURST TRAIL
PUBLIC HEARING 7: 3 0- 7: 3 8
The Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mai_ ling
was noted.
Nancy Ferrell was present for this matter.
Assist=int Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained the
request to vacate adjacent 1/2 of undeveloped public
roadway originally platted as "Grandview Place". He
explained the history or. other portions which were
vacated prior to 1962. He noted that no one would be
denied access through this vacation.
Harriet Morgart , owner of property west and north of the
applicants, stated that she understood, based on
statements by previous property owners: that a 1 1 these
roads had been previously vacated years ago. She also
wondered exactly where this road was because it does not
appear on any survey/neap she has seen.
Assistant. Zoning Administrator Gaffron stated that
applicant has submitted a survey dated 2/26/80 which
indicated the portion to be vacated although the
surveyors did not stake the area.
No one was present from the public regarding this matter
and the public hearing was closed.
It was n--oved by Ca 1 ] ahan, seconded by McDona id to
the recomment approval of the proposed vacation request per
staff 's recommendations. Motion, Ayes 7, Nays 0.
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MINUTES OF THE PLANKING COMMISSION MEETING HELD JUNE 16, 1986
# 10 2 6 IKI ICE H I LBELI ITC/JOHN VOGT
160 OLD CRYSTAL BAY ROAD
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVSION
SECOIiD REVIEW
Mike Hi 1 be l ink and John & Maureen Vogt were present for
this matter.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained the findings
contained in the survey. She stated that all structures
meet the code requirements. She explained that access
roads for future development should be a consideration
at this point.
Bellows questioned whether the
served the purpose for future
that from a planning view, this
this point.
proposed 25' strip best
development. She felt
should be determined at
Chairman Kelley stated that in lieu of the potential of
future development of Lots 2 & 3, a 25' strip for access
should be up the west line. He also felt that access
should be addressed now in order to avoid excessive curb
cuts on Old Crystal Bay and Watertown Roads.
Taylor, Rovegno, McDona 1 d, Goetten and Callahan stated
that they did not feel it was necessary to determine
access roads at this point. Rovegno stated that when
and if the lots are developed, they can be limited to
one access off Watertown Road at that point.
It was moved by Taylor, seconded by Goetten,
recommend approval of the preliminary subdivision
proposed subject to staff's recommendation with
exception of creation of a 25' wide out lot along
northern lot line of Lot 2. Motion, Ayes 5, Nay
Chairman Kelley and Bellows voted nay stating that a
easement along the west line of the property should
required.
# 10 3 4 R . SCOTT PROCKNOiW
3440 NORTH SHORE DRIVE
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING 8:03 - 8:20
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as
the
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25'
be
The Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
was noted.
Scott Prochnow was present for this matter.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained the
request for average lakeshore setback variance to
construct an enclosed 3-season porch over the existing
deck. He stated that there was no view encroachment and
none of the neighbors have indicated opposition. It was
noted that no hardcover variance is required, the
existing hardcover is 24.4% in the 75-250' area where
25% is allowed,,
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COWMISSION MEETING HELD JUNE 16, 1986
#1034 R. SCOTT
PROCHNOW CONT.
Applicant
deck off t
was asked if he intended to construct another
ie 3-season porch.
Mr. Proc:hnow indicated that in the future he
construct a deck (approximately 12'xl8' )
side of the proposed porch.
may want to
on the west
Zoning Administrator Mabusth suggested that he deck be
included in the request in order to avoid appi - cant
having to come back for another request requiring
another fee.
Mr. Prochnow agreed with this suggestion. He noted that
he did the hardcover calculations which he considered
"generous" and felt he could add a deck and stay within
the 2 5 % hardcover allowance. He also noted that he had
a letter from a neighbor approving his proposal.
No one was present from the public regarding this matter
and the public hearing was closed.
It was moved by Chairman Kelley, seconded by McDonald,
to recommend approval of the variance as proposed upon
staff recommeridation with the inclusion of a deck not to
exceed the allowed 25% hardcover in the 75-250' area and
that no additional structure be placed above or beyond
proposed deck. Applicant was info-med that the variance
was valid for one year only. Motion, Ayes 7, Nays 0.
# 10 3 5 ROBERT X C EMIEN
537 HANLON AVENUE
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING 8:20 - 8:27
The Af f idavit
was noted.
of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
Bob Koehnen was present for this matter.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron expalined the
request for a variance and conditional use permit to
construct a 1000 s.f. . detached storage bui 1 ding/garage.
He stated that the issue is if this is defined as a
"through" lot, then the variances and conditional use
permit are Necessary; if it is not a "through" lot, and
the lot line at the alley is considered a rear lot line,
then the variances are not necessary. He stated that.
this right-of-way appears to be the primary access for
the house to the south which would indicate it was a
street according to the zoning codes definition of
"street" and "alley". However, the right-of-way is less
than 50' which indicates it is an alley not a street. He
noted that i t i s the opi pion of the Ci ty's 1 ega 1 staf f
and the City Administrator that this is are alley and
should be considered the rear lot l i.ne.
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMTSSION MEETING HELD JUNE 16, 1986
# 10 3 5 ROBBRT 1COEIINEN CONT.
er Planning Commission concurred with staff's
interpretation.
to
No
one was present from the
public regarding this matter
st
and
the public hearing was
closed.
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Chairman Kelley,
due to the Planning Commission's interpretation that
this is an alley, not a street, that no variances are
required if structure is reduced to no more than 1000
s.f. and maintains the 10' setback from the alley and
doors open to the side; and staff be instructed to
refund the application fee. Motion, Ayes 7, Nays 0.
#1037 JOBN B. BUSSE
1951 CONCORDIA STREET
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
POBLIC BEARING 8:28 - 8:40
The Af f idavit
was noted.
of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained the
request for conditional use permit and variance to
regrade lakeshore yard to create a walk-ou � basement
conf iguration. He noted that City Engineer Cook, per
his letter, indicated that he felt disruption of the
bank could result in a negative impact on Lake
Minnetonka and does not recommend approval of the
grading plan.
John Busse was present for this matter and stated the
purpose of creating a walk -out was mainly to finish the
basement, provide 1 iaht, and to try and solve the water
problem by means of releasing the hydraulic pressure on
the foundation. He submitted a letter from Engineer
Mark Gronberg which explained the measures that would be
taken in order to prevent erasion into the lake.
Kelley stated that he was not in favor of this because
of his concern of creating a chain reaction in this type
of request.
Rovegno suggested that this application be table for
more review.
Goetten agreed with Kelley and Rovegno.
Taylor stated that he felt water damage was a legitimate
hardship.
No one was present from the public regarding this matter
and the public hearing was closed.
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD JUNE 16, 1986
#1037 JOHN Be BUSSE CONT.
It was moved by Rovegno, seconded by Goetten, to table
this matter so that appi icant can provide additional
hydraulic/hydrologic information for the City Engineer
to review, and also review impact on lake and
neighbor's properties, and neighbor's opinions. Motion,
Ayes 7, Nays 0.
#1038 GORDON N. NELSON
1310 FJMOOD AVENUE
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING 8:41 - 8:47
The Af f idavit
was noted.
of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
Assistant Zoning Administor Gaffron explained the
hardcover variance request to' construct a detached
garage (2.9 % increase in hardcover in the 75-250' f i om
3 2.9 % to 3 5.8 % ). Ga f f ron noted that applicant does not
have an exisiting garage and proposes to remove 2
existing storage sheds. H:� a 1 so noted that remova 1 of a
3rd existing shed would reduce the hardcover to 1.6 %
increase. He explained the grading work that would be
required consisting of approximately 90 cubic yards
which does not require a conditional use permit.
Gordon Nelson was present for this matter and stated
that he will remove the 3rd shed also (resulting in a
1.6% hardcover increase in the 75-250' - total 34.5%).
Goetten stated that she felt there was a real hardship
involved with the severe slopes of property.
No one was present from the public regarding this matter
and the public hearing was closed.
It was moved r y
Goetten, seconded by Kel
recommend approval of the variance,
hardship findings and conditions and
of all 3 sheds and no additional
allowed. Motion, Ayes 7, Nays 0.
sub lect t
subject to
hardcover
ley, to
o staff's
removal
will be
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MELD JUNE 16, 198E
#1039 WILLIAM ULRICH
1535 BOHN'S POINT ROAD
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
PUBLIC SEARING 9:00 - 9:15
The Af f id ivit
,s noted.
of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
Representing applicant were John Noble and Clifford
Reep.
Applicant request a conditional use permit for
excava * in the 4-7 5' Lakeshore area for installation
of a geottierma 1 heating & cooling system. As stated in
the memo, staff recommends tabling all action on this
application until the appropriate staff members,
consultants and other reviewing agencies are prepared to
make recommendations on the proposed improvement.
Clifford Reep explained the discharge projections.
There
were
no
comments from the
public regarding this
matter
and
the
public hearing was
closed.
Planning Commission stated that they would like
applicant to submit the hardship involved at the next
review,
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Taylor, to table
this -ipsplication per staff recommendation. Motion, Ayes
7 , Nay8 00
#1040 WILLIAM ULRICH
1535 BOHN ' S POINT RORD
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
PUBLIC HEARING 9:15 - 9:27
The Affidavit
was noted.
of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
Representing the applicant were John Noble and Clifford
Reep.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth Explained the request for a
conditional use permit to extend the sea wall a lcng the
southern portion of the lagoon. Applicant was granted a
permit in 1983 for installation of a sea wall along the
northern shoreline of the lagoon to prevent damage
sustained by muskrats. Zoning Administrator Mabusth also
advised that the applicant's engineer has recert i t ied
the sea wall plans certifying that the plans will meet
the necessary standards.
Clifford Reep stated that the extension of sea wall was
needed due to erosion from high water and animal
control,
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD JUNE 16, 1986
#1040 WILLIAM ULRICH CONT.
McDonald stated
merely moves the
that a sea wall
lakeshore.
that by installing the sea wall it
muskrats down the shoreline and noted
wou' d never be approved on the main
Callahan stated that he felt there was no end to the
Ulrich plans and requests. He would like to see an
entire plan for both properties to be considered.
John Noble stated that he is unaware of any more future
plans for the B 1 ohorn property, but he really cannot
speak on behalf of Mr. Ulrich.
Goetten agreed with Callahan regarding seeing an entire
plan .
There
were no
comments from the
public regarding this
matter
and the
public hearing was
c 1 osed.
It was moved by Rovegno, seconded by Kelley, to
recommend approval of the southern lagoon sea wall
request subject to conditions and findings noted in
Resolution #1522 approved for the northern lagoon sea
wall, and noting that no sea wall would be approved on
the main lakeshore. Motion, Ayes 6, Nays 1. Goetten
voted nay.
# 10 41 THOMAS J . MAX ELL
3685 WATERTOWN ROAD
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING 9: 3 2 - 5: 5 0
The Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
was noted.
Present representing Mr. Maxwell was John Ebert of Ebert
Construction and Supply.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaf f i on explained that
this application was originally intended as a setback
variance application to construct or enlarge an existing
horse barn. After the survey was submitted, it
indicated that the existing barn was partially located
upon the proper* y of Mr. Maxwe l l's aunt, Arlie Thorpe.
In order to resolve this problem, Arlie Thorpe planned
to deed her land to Mr. Maxwell co he could combine the
properties, granting her a life estate. This would
present. the problem of two houses on one 10.21 acre
pa r ce 1 , which would require a conditional use permit. for
use of the second house as, a guest house.
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD JUNE 16, 1986
#1041 THOMAS Je MAXNELL CONT,
John Ebert reviewed the history of the property. It was
noted that Mr. Maxwell would like to remove the existing
6-sta 11 horse barn and replace with another 6-sta 1 1
barn and if the property combination was not done, they
would not be able to meet the required 1501 setbacks
required. He stated that the alternative to a
conditional use permit for guest house use would be a
lot line rearrangement.
At this point,
the
issue of number of
allowed horses was
brought up.
Mr.
Ebert stated a
6-stall barn was
proposed. Planning
Commission noted
that only 3 horses
are allowed on
a 5
acre parcel. If
the properties were
combined, the
barn
could meet the required 150' setback
and a maximum
of 8 horses would be
allowed on the 10
acre parcel.
No one was Present from the public regarding this matter
and the public hearing was closed.
Because of the issues and concerns involved in this
application, it was moved by Kelley, seconded by
Goetten, to table this matter so applicant can meet with
staf f to solve these issues and come up with a solution.
Motion, Ayes 7, Nays 0.
APPRdVA,I. OF MINUTES
It was moved by Kelley, seconded by Tay lo= , to approve
the Minutes of the May 19, 1986 Planning Commission
meeting as submitted. Motion, Ayes ./, Nays 0.
PLANNING COMMISSION RBPRBSZNTATIVE
Chairman Ke 1 ley was appointed to attend the July 14,
1986 Council meeting.
AUJOURNMRNT 9 : 5 2
PH
It was ino v ed
adjourn the
Motion, Ayes
by Chairman Kelley, seconded by Taylor, to
Planning Commission meeting at 9:52 PM.
7, Nays 0.