HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-18-1986 Planning MinutesPLANNING COMMISSI0h MEETING
TUESDAY , FEBRUARY 18, 1986 7 : 3 0 P.M.
1275 BROWN ROAD SOUTH - COUNCIL
COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE - Tim Adams
ATTENDANCE
SCHEDULED PUBLIC BEARINGS
1. 7:30 P.M. #1007 Robert & Carol Trapp
4701 West Branch Road
Preliminary Subdivision
2. 7:45 P.M. #1008 John S. Pillsbury Jr.
315 Woodhill Road
3. 8:00 P.M. Zoning Amendment
Section 10.41, #B-2
Lakeshore Business District
4. #1003 Hans G. Wei' •^r & Don Kempf
1125 & 1135 North Arm Drive
Subdivision of a Lot Line Rearrangement
Continuation of Public Hearing
5. #1004 William Ulrich
1535 & 1595 Bohn's Point Road
Subdivision of a Lot Line Rearrangement
Continuation of Public Hearing
ACTION ITEMS
6. #842 Robert Zimmerman, 3415 Crysti Bay Road
Variance - Second Review - Property owners re -notified
7. #967 & #968 John B. Idstrom, 2580 Fox Street
Preliminary Subdivision & Conditional Use Permit -
Continuation of Public Hearing
8. #990 Ward Ferrell, 3405, 3411 & 3415 Watertown Road
Variance - Second Review
9. #999 Evan Meline, 3598 North Shore Drive
Variance - Second Review
10. #1005 Ned, Inc., 1390 French Creek Drive
Conditional Use Permit - Public Hearing
11. #1006 Chris & Dale Palm, 1710 Shadywood Road
VaL iance - Public Hearing
12. #1009 William W. Wear, 2160 Wayzata Blvd.
Variance
13. Final Review of Zoning Amendment -
Original Public Hearing held August 19, 1985
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 18, 1986 7:30 PM
ADDITIONAL ITEMS
14. Planning Commission approval of December 'S. 1985 Minutes.
15. Planning Commission to select a representative to attend the
March 10, 1986 Council Meeting.
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 18, 1986
ATTENDANCE 7:30 PM
The Orono Planning Commission met on the above date with
the following members present: c'hai.rman Kelley, Taylor,
Rovegno, McDonald, and Goetten. Absent: Sime and
Callahan. The following represented the City staff:
Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth,? Assistant
Zoning Administrator Gaffron, and City Recorder
Peterson.
#1007 ROBERT & CAROL TRAPP
4701 WEST BRANCH ROAR
PRELIMIIiiARY SUBDIVS10N
PUBLIC HERRING 7:30 - 7:42
Robert & Carol Trapp were present for this matter.
The purpose of the public hearing was to consider the
request for renewal of preliminary plat approval granted
previously on 6/2/80 which was never completed by
applicant.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained the
request which consisted of a 2 lot plat. He noted that
each lct was in excess of the two acre minimum lot
requirement and that there was an existing driveway
serving the existing house which would be shared by the
new lot.
In response to Chairman Ke 1 1 ey's question, Assistant
Zoning Administrator Gaf f ron stated that 3 horses are
allowed on 5.45 acres.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that a
variance would be required for the animal barn which is
located 1 30' from the existing east property line and
which will be located 701 from the proposed property
line whereas 150' is normally required and this fact
would be incorporated in the resolution if this
subdivision were approved so that the future owner of
T,ot 2 would be aware of the location of the animal barn.
There were no comments from the public and the public
hearing was closed.
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by McDonald, to
recommend approval of the preliminary subdivision
subject to staff's recommendations. Motion, Ayes 5,
Nays 0.
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 18, 1986
#1008 JOHN S. PILLSBURY JR.
315 WOODHILL ROAD
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION -METES AND BOUNDS
PUBLIC HEARING 7:45 - 8:03
Present for this matter was Henry Kingman and Robert
Hartf ie 1, representing John S. Pi 11 sbury Jr.; and John
Winston, representing Woodhill Country Club.
ZONING AMENDMENT
SECTION 10.41, #B-2
LAKESHORE BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARING 8:00
Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained the subdivision
request for a Class I metes and bounds division of 42+
acres into 2 parcels. The larger parcel will go to the
adjacent landowner, Woodhi 1 1 Country Club, and an eight
acre parcel will contain the principal residence and a l l
accessory structures for private ownership. Mabusth
noted that all structures meet required lot lines.
Regarding the existing guest house, Zoning Administrator
Mabusth stated that it could meet the required 2 acre
envelope and be divided off, but would not meet the
public road requirement.
Taylor questioned the use of a driveway that appeared to
be used by the Pillsbury's and Carpenter's.
John Winston stated that Mr. Carpenter has allowed Mr.
Pillsbury the occasional use of it and it could be
closed off but he see's no reason ;:o do so.
Mike & Darlene Bla zek, 1230 Woodhi 1 1 Road, were present
for this matter for informational purposes only.
There were no comments from the public and the public
hearing was closed.
It was moved by
recommend approval
division subject
Ayes 5, Nays 0.
DISTRICT
Rovegno, seconded by Goetten, to
of the preliminary metes and bounds
..o staf f's recommendations. Motion,
Chairman Kelley announced that this Public Hearing would
be tabled until the March 17th Planning Commission
meeting.
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#1003 HANS G. WEILER & DON KEMPF
1125 & 1135 NORTH ARM DRIVE
SUBDIVISION OF A LOT LINEE4ENT
CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING 8:04 - 8:20
Mr. & Mrs. Hans G. Weiler
were present for this matter.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained the request for a
lot line rearrangement which was previously approved in
1972 in order to build a new house at 1125 North Arm
Drive but was never filed. Mabusth noted that Parcel C.
which is
acquired
used as a
part of Lots 22 & 31, will be
Mabusth explained that Lot 6 is
and staff recommends requiring an
open space easement over this lot.
actually a
by Weiler.
riparian lot
Planning Commission reviewed with applicant the proposed
lot combinations.
There were no comments from the public and the public
hearing was closed.
It was moved by Chairman
recommend approval of
rearrangement subject to
1. Kempf to combine
31.
2. Weiler to combine
C.
3. Weiler to
City formally
Weiler and
relationship
parcel),
Kelley, seconded by Goetten, to
the subdivision of a lot line
the following conditions:
Lots 23, 30 and rearranged 22 &
Lots 20, 21, 32, 33 w2 th Parcel
xecute special lot combination with
approving riparian use of Lot 6 by
recognizing special ownership
(Lot 6 cannot be sold as separate
Motion, Ayes 5, Nays
0.
#1004 WILLIAM ULRICH
1535 & 1595 BOHN'S POINT ROAD
SUBDIVISION OF A LOT LINE REARRANGEMENT
CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING 8:25 - 8:48
Representing Mr. Ulrich was his attorney,
Halbert, Also present in Mr. U 1 ri ch's behalf
Gronberg, John L. Noble, and Don Brauer,,
Gregory T.
were Mark
Goetten questioned why this application was being
submitted without the entire plan as requested by the
Planning Commission back in November. She stated that
would not be willing to approve anything until the
i1 picture was presented for review.
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#1004 WILLIAM ULRICH continued
Zoning Administrator Nia busth stated that the Conditional
Use Permit application was not before the Planning
Commission at this time, only a request for a lot line
rearrangement and that there is nothing in the ordinance
tc prohibit application or consideration of the
subdivision as a separate application. Planning
Commission may take formal action to table pending
receipt of the conditional use permit application for
the illegal fill.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth briefly explained the
request and noted that each parcel appears to satisfy
the standards of the zoning district and staff
recommends approval of the lot line rearrangement.
Rovegno stated that he would like to see the entire plan
of the property but feels denial of this request would
be inapppropriate because it meets the standards.
Chairman Kelley questioned haw the Planning Commission
could recommend approval of subdivision when the
conditional use permit for fill has not yet been
satisf ied .
Attorney Gregory Halbert stated that the subdivision
application is separate conceptually from the other
issues being dealt under the conditional use permit.
There were no comments from the public and the public
hearing was closed.
It was moved by Goet Cen, seconded by Chairman Kelley, to
table this matter until the April Planning Commission
meeting or until information needed is received.
Motion, Ayes 5, Nays 0.
#842 ROBERT ZIMMERMAN
3415 CRYSTAL BAY ROAD
VARIANCE - SECOND REVIEW
PROPERTY OWNERS RE -NOTIFIED
Robert Zimmerman
was present for this matter.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained the
request which was tabled in 1984 subject to applicant
revising his plans. He noted that applicant has revised
his plan to include a garage addition and proposes
removal of existing hardcover resulting in net increase
of 2.2% in 75-250' zone.
McDonald
stated
that she felt it would be a nice
addition
to
the neighborhood.
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#842 ROBERT ZIMMERMAN continued
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron stated that there
is no known opposition from the neighbors and all have
been re -notified.
It was moved by McDonald, seconded by Goetten, to
recommend approval of the 3.5% hardcover variance in the
75-250' zone, conditioned on the applicant removing 2
areas of gravel and the existing detached garage
structure. Motion, Ayes 5, Nays 0.
#967 i #968 JOHN B. IDSTRON
2580 FOX STREET
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION/CONDITIONAL USE PERM11
CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING 8:53 - 9:07
John B. Idstrom and David
this matter. Mr. Idstrom's
also present.
y. Ostreim were present
engineer, Mark Gronberg,
f or
was
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained the
request for a two lot subdivision (there are no houses
on the lot presently) creating a new building sites. He
noted that both lots meet the 2 acre dry buildable
minimum and standards for septic: systems. He also noted
that there is a potential for a future 3rd lot which
would also meet the 2 acre requirement. It was noted
that applicant is requesting approval for the driveway
to access onto Fox Street to serve both proposed
building sites.
Planning Commission discussed the proposed driveway
which will cross the designated wetland in order to
access the rear building site. It was noted that. the
Watershed District has approved this crossing.
There were no comments from the public and the public
hearing was closed.
It was moved by Rovegno, seconded by Taylor, to
recommend approval of the preliminary subdivision and
conditional use permit subject to staff's
recommendations. Motion, Ayes 5, Nays 0.
#990 WARD FERRELL
3405, 3411 &3415 WATERTOWN ROAD
VARIANCE - SECOND REVIEW
Ward Ferrell was present for this matter.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained that
this application was reviewed approximately 6 months ago
on an appeal basis giving the applicant a general idea
regarding the City's policy regarding situations of
three contiguous substandard lots in common ownership.
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 18, 1986
#990 WARD FERRELL continued
All the Planning Commission
with their opinions stated
Planning Commission meeting,
be allowed a total of only 2
members basically concurred
at the November 18, 1985
that this property should
buildable lots.
Mr. Ferrell
stated
that
the City of Orono
requested him
to divide
the property
back in 1958 so there would not
be future
problems
with
building another
home,
and that
this fact
should be
honcred. He also noted
that
when the
zoning changed from
a 1 acre to a 2
acre
zoning
district,
he was
told
that this would
not
affect
existing lots.
Assistant
Zoning Administor
Gaffron reviewed the history
of zoning
changes in that
area from 1 9 0 to
1984. He
noted that
the proposed lots meet the criteria
required
of lots in
single separate
ownership based on
the 1975
zoning code,
but a density
issue and setting a
precedent
are open,
because these are substandard lots
in common
ownership.
It was moved by Chairman Kelley, seconded by Taylor, to
recommend denial of the 3 lots because they do not meet
applicable zoning code criteria. Motion, Ayes 2, Nays
3. Motion dies. Rovegno, McDonald, and Goetten voted
nay. Rovegno stated that he felt this is a difficult
decision because it seems that 3 lots would have met
code requirements up until a few years ago. McDonald
stated that because of the many years of ownership by
applicant, it would be inappropriate to deny. Goetten
concurred with McDonald in this matter and stated that 2
lots would be acceptable.
It was moved by Rovegno, seconded by Goetten, to
recommend denial of 3 lots but could recommend approval
of a total of 2 properly laid out bui lding sites and
recognizes the efforts, time and reliance the applicant
has put in his 1958 application but still recommend
denial of 3 lots. Motion, Ayes 5, Nays 0.
#999 EVAN MELINE
3598 NORTH SHORE DRIVE
VARIANCE - SECOND REVIEW
Benn Belden, being half owner of the property, was
present for this matter. He noted that Evan Meline was
unable to be present because he is in Europe.
This application was
Planning Commission
could firm -up plans to
Hennepin County.
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tabled from the December 16, 1985
meeting, so that the applicants
purchase additional property from
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#999 EVAN IyELINE continued
Mr. Belden stated that the County intends to sell some
portion of the adjacent property at a public sale in
March, at which time they plan to bid on the property.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron reviewed the plat
map indicating the parcel of property Hennepin County
intends to sell. He further explained the variances
which would be necessary with -he proposed plan whether
the applicant acquires additional property or not.
McDonald
questioned Mr.
Belden
on when the existing
hazardous
foundation will
be
removed.
Mr. Belden stated that the foundation is presently
capped and will be removed as soon as possible, weather
permitting. He noted that the delay has been Mr.
Me 1 ine's absence and the weather.
McDonald stated that any new residence being built
should be built within the boundaries of the existing
foundation and would not be in favor of granting any
variances enfringing on the Fegers property.
Goetten stated that she would not approve the
application as presented, but acquisition of the
additional property may affect her decision.
Rovegno stated that it is a problem lot in that if
applicant was not allowed to build, it would '-)ecome a
maintenance problem, however, if the additional property
were acquired, a modest dwelling could be built within.
limitations.
Chairman
Kelley
stated he
has a very hard time approving
this as
being a
buildable
lot.
McDonald agreed with Chairman Kelley.
Taylor stated he would be willing to consider a proposal
for construction of a new house under one of two
conditions 1 ) i f the adjacent property cannot be
purchased, consider a structure no larger than the
one thats been there 2 ) if the adjacent property to the
west can be purchased, consider a proposal similar to
the one in concept presented at the December meeting.
Taylor noted that the current owners purchased the
property as if mid -January.
McDonald stated that someone should be fined for not
complying with the resolution ordering removal of the
foundation.
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#999 EVAN MELINE continued
It was moved by Goetten,
this application until
secured. Motion, Ayes 5,
#1005 NED INC.
1390 FRENCH CREEK DRIVE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
PUBLIC HEARING 10:02 - 10:15
Ned Dayton
#1006 CHRIS &
1710 SHADYWOOD
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING
seconded by McDonald, to table
acquisition of property is
Nays 0.
was present for this matter.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained the
request for a conditional use permit to excavate a pond.
He noted the City Engineer Cook has reviewed it and
feels that the proposed grading may have little effect
on the algae problem but- will provide a suitable duck
nesting area. Cook recommends a timber baffle structure
be installed to eliminate floating debris from moving
downstream and placement of silt fence at the outlet
during construction.
McDonald stated she has concerns with the disturbance of
land involving approximately 230 truckloads of sediments
and nutrients.
There
were
no
comments from
the
public regarding this
matter
and
the
public hearing
was
closed.
It was moved by Goet ten,
recommend approval of the
to recommendations by
permits required by the
Ayes 5, Nays 0.
DALE PALM
ROAD
seconded by Chairman Kelley, to
Conditional Use Permit subject
the Engineer and subject to
Watershed District. Motion,
10:15 - 10:49
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron submitted a
letter from ,lack F. Rhode, non-resident owner of the
property located at 1690 Shadywood Rd., indicating his
feelings and suggestions regarding any development being
done at 1710 Shadywood Rd.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained the
request for a hardcover variance to construct an
addition and attached garage. (2% increase in 0-75'; 6%
increase in 75-250' ).
Chris Palm was present for this matter along with their
agent Henry D. Lindner.
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 18, 1986
#1006 CHRIS DALE PALM continued
Mr. Lindner stated that they were open to suggestions
and their main concern was to be able to bring a 1940's
house to a livable size & condition.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that there
was no average setback problem.
Planning Commission would like applicant to submit a
final plan eliminating some of the concrete, and
reducing the amount of proposed hardcover in the 0-751
.
Planning
Commission
reviewed the
possibilities and
suggested
removal of
some portions of
hardcover.
There were no comments from the public regarding this
matter and the public hearing was closed.
It was moved by ChO i rman Ke 1
1 ey, seconded by Goetten, to
recommend approval:
variance
to allow 0-7 5' hardcover
addition subject to r
-mova 1
of
0-7 5' existing structures
to the north & east
(A, B, &
C)
; and variance to allow
maximum of 30% (3,078
s.f.)
hardcover in the 75-
250'zone; subject to
a final
proposed site plan being
submitted before the
Council
meeting for staff review.
Motion, Ayes 5, Nays
0.
#1009 WILLIAM W. WEAR
2160 WAYZATA BLVD,
VARIANCE
Bill Wear was present for this matter,
Zoning Administrator Mabusth submitted a final sketch of
the proposed -ign,
It was moved by Chairman Kelley, seconded by Goetten, to
recommend approval of a variance to the moritorium for
the property located within the Hwy. 12 corridor.
Motion, Ayes 5, Nays 0.
FINAL REVIEW OF ZONING AMENDMENT --
ORIGINAL PUBLIC HEARING HELD AUGUST 19, 1985
It was moved by Rovegno, seconded by McDonald, to table
this matter at this time and schedule a special meeting
date of Thursday, February 27, 1986, at 7:00 PM, at the
Council Chambers to review this matter. Motion, Ayes 5,
Nays 0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
DECEMBER 16, 1985
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Taylor, to approve
the Minutes of the December 16, 1985 Planning Commission
meeting as submitted. Motion, Ayes 5, Nays 0.
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 18, 1986
PLANNING C01-if :.ISSION REPRESENTATIVE
Chairman Kelley will attend the March 10, 1986 Council
Meeting,
ADJOURNIUM 11:00 PM
It was moved by Chairman Kelley,
adjourn the Planning Commission
Motion, Ayes 5, Nays 0.
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seconded
by
Taylor,
to
meeting
at
11:00
PM.