HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-16-2022 Planning Commission Minutes MINUTES OF THE
ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday,May 16,2022
6:00 o'clock p.m.
ROLL CALL
The Orono Planning Commission met on the above-mentioned date with the following members present:
Chair Mark McCutcheon,Vice Chair Scott Kirchner,Commissioners Chris Bollis,Dennis Libby, Jon
Ressler,Bob Erickson,and Alternate Dave Peterson. Commissioner Matt Gettman was absent.
Representing Staff were Community Development Director Jeremy Barnhart, City Planner Melanie
Curtis, and City Planner Laura Oakden.
Chair Kirchner called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m., followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Chair McCutcheon noted a request for item 2 under Public Hearings to be tabled.
Ressler moved,Kirchner seconded,to approve the Agenda.VOTE: Ayes 7,Nays 0.
APPROVAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 18,2022 AND
APRIL18,2022 WORKSHOP
Libby moved,Bollis seconded,to approve the minutes of the Orono Planning Commission meeting
of April 18,2022 and the April 18,2022 Workshop.VOTE: Ayes 7,Nays 0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. LA22-000017 JON RESSLER,3683 &3685 NORTH SHORE DRIVE,REQUESTS A LOT
WIDTH VARIANCES AS PART OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE BOUNDARY LINE
ADJUSTMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES. (STAFF: LAURA OAKDEN)
Commissioner Ressler is part of the application and recused himself. He stepped away from his seat.
Jon Ressler and Frank Plachecki,Applicants,were present.
City Planner Oakden noted Ressler and Plachecki are neighboring property owners at 3683 and 3685
North Shore Drive.The Applicants are looking to complete an administrative boundary line.Moving the
property boundary is a staff administrative action as long as no new non-conformities are created or an
existing non-conformity is not increased.Each property will require a lot width variance in order to allow
the boundary line adjustment and the existing lot width non-conformity will increase.Lot width is
measured in 2 places on lakeshore properties,at the ordinary high water level(OHWL)and at the 75 foot
lakeyard setback.Properties in the LR-1C district require 100 foot lot width.Both properties are
nonconforming to lot width, area and setbacks. Due to the angle of the proposed lot line,the lot width will
decrease at the 75 foot lakeyard setback from 54 feet to 52 feet at 3683 (the smaller property on screen)
and at 3685 the lot width will decrease from 92 feet to 82 feet at the OHWL.The new property boundary
will maintain the same lot area sizes. Oakden stated the new property line will improve many of the non-
conformities on the both parcels.The building setback,overall hardcover, and lot width at the OHWL
will improve on the smaller property; currently all of those are non-conforming and all will improve and
come closer to the City Code.The new property line will move off the existing driveway bringing the
driveway setback closer to conformance for 3685 North Shore Drive. Oakden showed a slide on screen
showing the proposed adjustments.The Applicant has primarily identified the existing conditions and the
improvement of many non-conformities to the city Codes for each property as practical difficulties
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supporting the requested variance lot width variances and boundary line adjustment.Additionally,they
have provided their supporting documentation regarding practical difficulties attached as Exhibit B, and
should be asked for additional testimony regarding the application. Staff finds that the proposed lot line
adjustment improving existing non-conformities on hardcover,building setbacks,and driveway setbacks
is a positive improvement.The lot width variance requested may be supported by practical difficulty.
Staff finds there may be some practical difficulties to support that lot width variance.
Jon Ressler,3683 North Shore Drive, stated the reason for this application is to apply how the property
has been used in practice for over three decades.
Chair McCutcheon opened the public hearing at 6:10 p.m.
Chair McCutcheon closed the public hearing at 6:10 p.m.
Kirchner stated it seems that there are slight improvements to hardcover and he does not have a lot of
issues with the application.
Bollis sees that it is clearing up an issue as far as how the properties have been used.He agrees that part
of it is getting smaller and the other getting bigger.The reduced hardcover and setback getting better in
places is helpful.
McCutcheon thinks they are improving the situation with items that Staff highlighted,plus thirty years is
a long time and they are correcting something,especially when there is agreement from both neighbors.
Kirchner moved,Libby seconded,to approve LA22-000017,3683&3685 North Shore Drive,Lot
Width Variances as part of an Administrative Boundary Line Adjustment Between the two
properties.VOTE: Ayes: 7,Nays 0.
2. LA22-000024 SHARRATT DESIGN,3350 FOX STREET,REQUESTS A CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT FOR A GUEST HOUSE USE. (STAFF: MELANIE CURTIS)
This item was tabled at the request of the Applicant.
3. LA22-000018 TEXT AMENDMENT RELATED TO SETBACKS FOR IRRIGATION
SYSTEMS.THE AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW IRRIGATION SYSTEMS IN
REQUIRED YARDS.(STAFF: JEREMY BARNHART)
Barnhart noted this is a general housekeeping amendment. Irrigation systems are a listed accessory use in
most zoning districts including residential and there is a setback for accessory structures between 5, 10,
and 15 feet. Irrigation systems are located throughout the yard and often within the required setback. They
are proposing to add irrigation systems as a non-encroachment, allowing them to be irrigated in required
yards. Staff recommends approval of the ordinance as drafted.
Chair McCutcheon opened the public hearing at 6:18 p.m.
Chair McCutcheon closed the public hearing at 6:18 p.m.
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Ressler moved,Kirchner seconded,to approve LA22-000018 text amendment related to setbacks
for irrigation systems as proposed.VOTE: Ayes: 7,Nays 0.
4. LA22-000019 TEXT AMENDMENT RELATED TO DOCKS AND EASEMENTS FOR
DOCKS IN THE SEASONAL RECREATIONAL ZONING(RS)DISTRICT. THE
AMENDMENT CLARIFIES CURRENT REGULATION ALLOWING BIG ISLAND
OWNERS TO GRANT DOCK EASEMENTS FOR INTERIOR BIG ISLAND LOTS. (STAFF:
JEREMY BARNHART)
Barnhart gave a presentation noting a couple of years ago the City drafted an ordinance amendment that
allowed Big Island lakeshore property owners to grant an easement to interior property owners.This
easement for dock access is unique to Big Island and is not allowed anywhere else in the City. Today they
are proposing to take the Code and add it to the zoning district so the user can find it easier.They are not
changing practice or removing any rights,the City is just saying as it is allowed in the subdivision Code,
they are now allowing it in the zoning Code.
Chair McCutcheon opened the public hearing at 6:23 p.m.
Chair McCutcheon closed the public hearing at 6:23 p.m.
Ressler moved,Peterson seconded,to approve LA 22-000019 text amendment related to docks and
easements for docks in the seasonal Recreational Zoning(RS)district.VOTE: Ayes: 7,Nays 0.
5. A22-000021 TEXT AMENDMENT RELATED TO EXTERIOR STORAGE IN R DISTRICTS
RELATING TO VEHICLE PARKING SURFACES.THE ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE
VEHICLES TO BE LICENSED,OPERABLE,AND PARKED ON A HARD SURFACE.
(STAFF: JEREMY BARNHART)
Barnhart stated this text amendment is intended to clarify the regulation for the general user who may not
understand the nuances of the City Code.The way the Code is written,extended parking of vehicles is
considered hardcover. When the City is reacting to complaints about junk cars or debris, one issue they
cite is the expansion of hardcover and some people get confused by that.The idea behind this change is to
identify and require that the parking of vehicles be located on hardcover: concrete,asphalt,or gravel.
Bollis spoke about the example of boat storage on a larger rural lot,noting someone storing a boat
seasonally is now required to put hardcover under that all summer long versus hardcover that would only
be there in winter.Bollis sees the intent but does not know that it should be blanket across all R districts.
It does not make sense to him, especially in some of those larger districts,to require hardcover under a
surface that would be there all the time,whether a boat or RV is stored there or not.He said even with a
hobby farm, a tractor parked outside would be considered the same thing. In Bollis' opinion it needs more
thought as to what districts this should be in and what the overall effect would be to require this
hardcover.
Chair McCutcheon opened the public hearing at 6:23 p.m.
Daniel Phipps,464 North Shore Drive, asked when they would pursue this issue about the hardcover
further. He has a rental house next to him with four vehicles,three boats, and an enclosed trailer on the
grass.The boats are there all year long and he considers it an eyesore,as do some of the other neighbors.
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He shared that is his input and agreed with the question of where the City will draw the line and where
they will not. Mr. Phipps noted enforcement is another matter.
Chair McCutcheon asked what zone Mr. Phipps lives in.
Mr.Phipps replied the lots are 1/2 acre minus wetland.
Greg Hahn was called late this afternoon to represent Mitch and Georgina Rasmussen,living on Park
Drive.Mr.Hahn thanked Mr.Barnhart as the family has been after this for two years and shared a
handout showing what the neighbors are looking at,noting it varies from day-to-day anywhere from 10-
16 cars.Hardcover is an issue to talk about, as it the number of vehicles on a piece of property that is not
even 1/2 acre.The owners have been there for 20-30 years and it changed when the next door neighbor
purchased this property which has an accessory building on it. Mr.Hahn believes the building is probably
being used for mechanical or fix-up purposes and does not know if there is a license or zoning that needs
to be done.Mr. Hahn stated this is an issue as the property owners are both retired and are selling their
property.Mr.Hahn is a real estate agent and he suggested talking to the City Planning and Zoning about
the number of cars and what is going on next door because it does affect the value of their property.
Recently Mr. Rasmussen's health has turned which has accelerated the need to get things moving on the
sale of their property,noting the family does not want to prosecute but wants to work with the City to try
to rectify the situation as it is an eyesore.
Chair McCutcheon closed the public hearing at 6:38 p.m.
Ressler asked Barnhart if the text amendment proposed is in reference to considering boats, cars, etcetera,
on soft storage to be counted as hardcover.
Barnhart replied right now the extended parking of vehicles transfers that area into hardcover.This
ordinance says if someone is going to store vehicles they must store them on approved hardcover(asphalt,
concrete,gravel).
Ressler clarified it is making it unlawful to store said vehicles unless it is on hardcover.
Barnhart replied in the affirmative.
Chair McCutcheon likes that it indirectly says if one has a smaller lot they will have a restriction on
hardcover,therefore they will be less apt to store vehicles.To Bollis' point on the bigger lots, it will
promote them to add hardcover and does the City want that impacting their lakes and runoff?
Bollis asked if it were approved,how would it apply to existing non-conformities such as the example the
gentleman just explained about the next door neighbors.
Barnhart replied this ordinance will not help him as most of those vehicles are parked on hard surface
such as gravel or concrete.The same rules apply, licensed and operable,so those three tests would still be
met. He noted with any change to the Zoning Code people would be grandfathered in but if someone
moved that vehicle and brings it back it must be parked on hard surface.
Peterson said from the two neighbors sharing their experiences with cars,those cars seem to be a much
bigger issue and are giving the neighborhood a black eye.He would be sympathetic to someone who has
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a recreational small utility trailer as he does not believe that is causing a problem as the cars do. He asked
if they can address this to cars and not just hardcover?
Barnhart noted Peterson raises a point: it seems the predominant issue is the parking of vehicles that are
operated sparingly.As a lake community,Barnhart knows there is a culture of one storing a boat off to
the side so it is not impactful of neighbors. He stated perhaps they can revise this with some more
direction and bring it back specific to cars or specific to zoning districts.
Ressler knows they have looked at this language before and have come to an impasse due to enforcement.
If a boat moves three feet it has been moved and it is no longer there for a long enough period of time. He
said there is intent and enforcement and he believes that is the difficulty they are experiencing. Regarding
Peterson's comment about cars versus a trailer, one could make the opposite argument with kids home
from college but are not keeping several trailers.He thinks this is a difficult one to get through and sees
there are merits and there are not merits.
Kirchner understands the intent but in looking at the photo examples brought forward tonight,based on
the photos the vehicles are all parked on hardcover. He asked Barnhart if complaints prompted this and if
they were complaints similar to those brought tonight,passing an ordinance like this will not correct it.
That does not seem like the best route.
Barnhart replied occasionally they City gets complaints about junk cars. One section of Code they would
be in violation of is how they park that car for an extended period of time and falls under the definition of
hardcover.He noted an example where one had an extension of hardcover without a permit which is one
section of Code that the City cites. It is difficult to get a judge or prosecuting attorney to agree with or
accept because it is somewhat written in the negative.What the City is trying to do is clarify that a bit. It
will not apply in all cases as there are certain situations where other issues can be used such as inoperable
cars,license,etcetera.In certain situations this is one of the options the City has in terms of enforcement.
With all Code enforcements it is based on a complaint,the City will go out to see what sections of the
Code they are in violation of, and then will write a letter letting the property owner know what the rule is.
If they choose to fix it that is great,if not,the City will take the next step.
Kirchner has some concern that it will not solve at least one of the complaints they heard this evening. In
his previous career in law enforcement he has experience enforcing junk vehicle ordinances that are
specific to inoperable or unlicensed,and for what it is worth he would stick with that rather than trying to
include additional language or violations of hardcover.He would defer to the ordinance that speaks to
inoperable,unlicensed,or unregistered vehicles.
Libby noted they had two public comments showing why people are upset about having errant,
abandoned,or unattended vehicles on private property that can be unattractive and distracting. He thinks
the draft amendment includes three elements on how to deal with that.The most difficult part,as
Kircher's point was well taken in terms of law enforcement, it can keep the City police department busy
making sure there is current registration on any and every vehicle that is parked for any lengthy period of
time. Still it is a good component of the draft that Libby thinks should be there;the three caveats or
elements of the draft amendment stipulate the vehicle must be licensed,operable,and parked on a hard
surface.He does not think the hard surface is a bad idea in any way and thinks the draft amendment in its
intent and language is practical and would serve public good. Libby is in favor of what the planners
brought forward.
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Chair McCutcheon can see for a citizen being impacted this would be very frustrating and understands
why they would come to Staff requesting something be done.At the same time,he sees the complications
and policing of it as a problem and can see the larger lot impact and noted there will be pushback on that.
They should think of having hardcover unnecessarily placed in the larger,more rural areas of Orono.
Things to consider also include the fact that they are a community of boat trailers and whether it is an
issue of cars and unlicensed cars,and the burden on the police department.
Barnhart has heard reasonable comments and a good range of discussion and has identified three options:
approve as written, deny as written,or direct Staff to come back with revisions.
The Commissioners continued discussion on the item including hardcover definitions,long-term storage,
and seasonal storage.
Peterson asked regarding the earlier complaint regarding cars, if it is suspected that someone is running a
repair garage,could they go to Staff to address the issue?
Barnhart noted there is an ordinance in the books against car repair home occupations.The challenge is
proving it.
Libby moved,Bollis seconded,to table A22-000021 text amendment and to direct Staff to come
back with a revision to the text amendment.VOTE: Ayes: 7,Nays 0.
6. LA22-000022 TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING VEGETATION REMOVALS IN THE
SHORELAND OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT.THE ORDINANCE RELATES TO THE
REMOVAL OF HAZARDOUS AND DISEASED TREES. (STAFF: JEREMY BARNHART)
Barnhart explained there is a distinction between live and dead trees.Removal of a live tree in the
shoreline area requires a replacement at a ratio established by the Planning Commission and City Council
some years ago.The important distinction is"live"which requires replacement versus"dead"which does
not require replacement.Recently the question has come up regarding aa hazardous tree which is going to
fall down in the opinion of an arborist, and property owners have asked if they can remove that tree.
Barnhart clarified yes they can,but they need to replace the tree due to the way the Code currently reads.
It is the same with a diseased tree.Barnhart clarified there is really no discretion on the Staff level,either
a tree is alive or dead.This ordinance clarifies that a bit and an item for discussion is whether diseased or
hazardous trees should be required to be replaced at the same ratio of a live tree or at a reduced ratio.
Barnhart is looking for feedback from the Planning Commission.
Chair McCutcheon opened the public hearing at 7:17 p.m.
Jay Nygard, 1446 Rest Point Road,has a huge tree by the lake as well as other trees and asked for a
clarification.He rioted Mr. Barnhart sent him an email that said this was potentially going to say one
could replace a diseased tree with nothing and he asked if that has changed.
Barnhart replied he has drafted an ordinance with two options. One has no replacement required for
diseased,dead,or pose a safety hazard.An alternative text requires the replacement of a tree one-to-one.
Mr.Nygard thanked Barnhart and said that is helpful.Personally he thinks saying something is a diseased
tree and that they do not have to do anything is ridiculous.He has a problem next door which Mr.
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Barnhart knows about where a neighbor cut down a tree, disposed of it, and then had an arborist sign
something later noting it was diseased. He asked how does anyone know?Mr.Nygard knows because he
took the bottom stump when it was left on the street and knows it was not diseased. Having an ordinance
as Mr. Barnhart was saying where no tree replacement is required goes completely against what Orono
has been all these years in protecting the lake. Especially in looking at the 75 foot setback rather than the
50 foot setback of the DNR,they have one-third of the lakeshore on Lake Minnetonka and it is actually
important that Orono maintains that.Mr.Nygard got a tree replacement permit next door when he bought
that house because the tree was destroying the boathouse by the lake and the City came and said yes,it is
healthy,but it should be replaced.Therefore,Mr.Nygard went through a tree replacement plan,which he
thinks is a bit ridiculous as it would have required him to put eight trees in a line in a certain area. This
broaches many of the topics the Commissioners brought up today. Mr.Nygard negotiated a different
settlement with the City and will not need eight trees and he put them in a good spot where it fits in which
worked quite well.What he sees missing here is an actual forestry expert talking about the forests of Lake
Minnetonka.They cannot leave it up to residents and a few arborists,but they must talk about the fact that
Orono owns one-third of Lake Minnetonka and how do they protect the forest as a whole?
Chair McCutcheon closed the public hearing at 7:21 p.m.
Ressler recalls in talking about greenspace there is a certain species approval of trees,knowing the City
cannot be experts at everything, so they defer that expertise to the DNR and other entities.He does not
see the benefit of replacing a Cottonwood or nuisance tree and requiring a replacement,especially if it
was diseased. Regarding a perfectly healthy nuisance tree,Ressler noted those would be replanted by the
laws and rules in place.
McCutcheon noted they make seedless Cottonwood trees now. He likes the idea of putting in a setback
for the tree and asked Staff if the tree would be replaced in the lake setback or anywhere on the lot.He
stated they may find out that every tree is diseased in some way or another and definitely do not want to
promote that.
Kirchner does not like lines 15 and 16 in the proposal and would not support. The alternative text that
would require replacement of dead, diseased,or hazardous is something he would support more than not
replacing a tree. Regarding public comments tonight regarding placement of trees,there are
circumstances that do not allow for replacement in that area. He suggested including language saying a
tree would be replaced in the same location or allow for an administrative review with Staff to allow for
extenuating circumstances,almost like practical difficulties.He would like to keep it administrative rather
than bringing those before the Planning Commission for approval.
Erickson said besides the lakeshore erosion possibility,certain types of oak wilt are transmitted through
their roots which may be another reason a property owner may not want to replant in the same spot.
Bollis noted the way he reads the existing Code,the City does not address dead or diseased trees.At first
he was in favor of lines 15 and 16 only and in choosing lines 30-32 it would give the owner and Staff
some flexibility on where to place that tree within the lake setback.
Barnhart and the Commissioners discussed the language options in the ordinance.
Kirchner moved,Ressler seconded,to approve LA22-000022 text amendment regarding vegetation
removals in the Shoreland Overlay Zoning District including lines 30-33,alternative text requiring
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replacement of dead,diseased trees deemed hazardous and directing Staff to incorporate an
administrative review process regarding replacement location of the tree as suggested by Staff.
VOTE: Ayes: 7,Nays 0.
OTHER BUSINESS
7. UPDATE ON MAY 9,2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Barnhart shared the City Council reviewed several items approving the variances at 1074 Loma Linda and
940 North Arm Drive.Regarding 1720 Bohns Point Road,after much discussion the City Council
approved the amended plans for the retaining walls. Feedback was provided to Stonewood for the
boundary line adjustment.
ADJOURNMENT
Ressler moved,Kirchner seconded,to adjourn the Planning Commission Meeting.VOTE: Ayes 7,
Nays 0.
The Orono Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 7:41 p.m.
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