HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-23-2022 City Council Minutes MINUTES OF THE
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday,May 23,2022
6:00 o'clock p.m.
ROLL CALL
The Orono City Council met on the above-mentioned date with the following members present: Mayor
Dennis Walsh,City Council Members Aaron Printup,Richard Crosby III,and Victoria Seals. Council
Member Matt Johnson was absent. Representing Staff were City Attorney Soren Mattick, City
Administrator/Engineer Adam Edwards, Finance Director Ron Olson, and City Planner Melanie Curtis.
Mayor Walsh called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m., followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Following the Pledge Mayor Walsh asked for a moment of silence for the family of Eli Hart and the first
responders that dealt with the tragedy over the weekend. He stated their hearts and condolences go out to
the family.
After the moment of silence Mayor Walsh also noted it is Council Member Crosby's 55th birthday today.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
CONSENT AGENDA
1. CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 9,2022
2. COUNCIL WORK SESSION MINUTES OF MAY 9,2022
3. CLAIMS/BILLS
4. APPROVAL OF ONE-DAY GAMBLING LICENSE—RESOLUTION NO.7266
5. APPROVAL OF RENTAL LICENSE
6. APPROVAL OF GARBAGE HAULER LICENSES
7. APPROVAL TO HIRE FULL-TIME POLICE OFFICER
8. APPROVAL TO DISPOSE OF UNCLAIMED PROPERTY
9. APPOINTMENT OF SEASONAL EMPLOYEES
10. APPROVAL OF NAME CHANGE FOR THE ORONO PUBLIC GOLF COURSE
11. RESPONSE TO LONG LAKE CITY COUNCIL LETTER ON THE LONG LAKE FIRE
DEPARTMENT
This item was moved to the City Administrator/Engineer Report.
12. PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY UTILITY EXTENSION—FINAL PAY REQUEST—
PROJECT CLOSEOUT
13. LA22-000003—LONG BRIDGE FINAL PLAT—RESOLUTION NO. 7263
14. LA21-000051—ROBERT LINDEN CONSTRUCTION, 1074 LOMA LINDA AVE.,
VARIANCES—RESOLUTION NO.7221
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Crosby moved,Johnson seconded,to approve the Consent Agenda and to move Item 11 to the City
Administrator/Engineer Report.VOTE: Ayes 4,Nays 0.
ZONING REPORT
15. LA22-000015-MATT ALEXANDER OB/O LAKEWEST DEVELOPMENT,3245
WAYZATA BLVD-EISINGER FLATS SKETCH PRESENTATION
Matt Alexander,Applicant,was present.
Curtis gave a presentation on the item noting the Applicant is requesting non-binding feedback on the
proposed subdivision master plan. The property has been subject to several sketch plans in the past and
the five dry buildable acres on the north portion of the property are guided for low density residential and
the 10 dry buildable acres on the southern portion are guided for high density residential.The current plan
includes 180 stacked townhome units arranged in 16-18 buildings throughout the property. Because there
is no separation between the guided densities a Comprehensive Plan amendment will be required.
Additional approvals will be required including a zone change from RR1B to RPUD, a setback variance
from Lake Classen,and preliminary and final plat approvals.The Planning Commission Staff Report
provides additional analysis on the project. To date there have been no public comments for or against the
project.
Matt Alexander,North Shore Development Partners, 235 East Lake Street, Wayzata, noted they have
been trying to accommodate the density the Met Council has put on the site for both parcels. He spoke
about unit calculations on the north and south parcels,and Met Council has said it is at the City's
discretion to act as a PUD as long as the minimum threshold combined is being covered. The Planning
Commission had some very pleasant comments about the plan,they liked the common space and public
amenities including a pool and community center. One Planning Commissioner asked if it was possible to
put the detached garage underneath the two-story buildings. Mr.Alexander stated they studied the matter
and financially it is not a possibility on the project. He showed sample elevations on screen and the
Applicants know there is some environmental cleanup that needs to be done from previous owners of the
site. Mr. Alexander has met with the County and traffic engineers who have approved the design on
Wayzata Boulevard and have been working actively with City Staff to bring this forward.
Mayor Walsh noted they are not all detached garages.
Mr.Alexander replied that is correct. Each unit is approximately 16 units per building and 8 stalls for
those units will be traditional tuck-under garage doors.A detached building will also include the other 8
detached garage stalls. He noted these are all rental units.
Mayor Walsh stated the Applicant is taking the higher density and lower density,merging them and
making it look like one contiguous project. To Mayor Walsh, it looks nice the way it is laid out. He asked
if the City would need a Comprehensive Plan amendment on the project.
Curtis thinks they are still waiting for an answer from Met Council.
Mayor Walsh said either way it would not be a big deal as the City has had to go in and adjust density a
few times before.
Crosby asked what rental costs would be.
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Mr. Alexander noted the average rent would be approximately$1,800-2,000 per month.
Seals thinks this is the most favorable of the plans they have seen. Out of transparency she stated she
would prefer not to do any developments there but knows they have to work with the Met Council and the
Applicant has done the best they can on this plan.
Printup asked if they decided to keep trails off Old Highway 12.
Edwards replied there was a proposed plan to have the Independence Trail or Wayzata Boulevard Trail
extend beyond and go further to the West.About a year ago the City said they were not interested in that
extension on the north side of the road.
Mayor Walsh noted the easements are in place for the future if they want to extend the trail on the south
end.
Crosby noted concern about the detached garages as he is not crazy about the look.As much tuck under
as they can get would be his preference.
Mr.Alexander noted the garages will be architecturally mirroring the units themselves.
Crosby likes the green space on the project.
Seals noted anything architecturally they can do to make each unit look not"all the same," as the second
picture down on the left shows,would be her recommendation.
Crosby asked about fire stops between units.
Mr. Alexander believes the Code says it is required for party walls to be fire rated and they will follow the
Code to the letter. They will also include sprinkler systems.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Gabriel Jabbour, 985 Tonkawa Road,noted he spoke at the Park Commission and feels he should speak
to the City Council, as well. He is dumbfounded that the public comments are three minutes, and is
dumbfounded that public comments are down on the agenda. When the Council Members took office he
thought he would support them his own way, let them do their own thing and put his differences aside for
the good of the community. He is here to tell them he cannot do it anymore. He is talking about the
process of item 11 tonight and stated Orono's sister city, Long Lake, sent a letter with their heart pain
about the Fire Department on the 17"'. There is a response letter on the agenda on the Consent Agenda
and Mr. Jabbour loves how much work they put into stuff like that. He asked when the Council Members
had the chance to digest the letter and write a response,noting there was no chance for a quorum. Plus,
the City Council's response is on the Consent Agenda, like the citizens do not need to know, and the letter
was not part of the online packet. Mr.Jabbour said that is very much like"Putin-style government."He
can assure the City Council that their methodology is not a good thing for the City,they are not engaging
people, and they are spending money like drunken sailors. He pointed to one Council Member and said
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"particularly you"who is Mr. Conservative and Mr. Jabbour cannot believe they passed an$18,000,000
bond in a twenty minute hearing. Mr.Jabbour helped build this building and complex for$4,000,000 and
was almost hanged by the citizens. The old City Hall did not even have bathrooms in it. Mr. Jabbour said
the City will spend the money on Public Works, and out there trying to get contracts,the City of Spring
Park is spending under$200,000, and Orono is building a$13,000,000 building for them that came
$6,000,000-7,000,000 overbudget. On top of all of that,they do not have one extra street in the City.
Mayor Walsh thanked Mr.Jabbour and noted he will be able to talk about item 11 further in just a few
minutes.
Mr. Jabbour stated Mr. Mayor,you are shutting me up at three minutes?
Mayor Walsh replied in the affirmative,noting that is the rule.
Mr.Jabbour noted in the newsletter it said to contact the Mayor at any time.
Mayor Walsh replied that is correct and welcomed Mr.Jabbour to call him.
Jay Nygard, 1385 Rest Point Road, is here about something that happened a few years ago and it seems
that most of the Council Members were a part of it. He said in 2014 Mayor Walsh was elected to the City
Council and in 2016 Walsh formed a company called Go Green Energy LLC, Corporation.Mr.Nygard
stated his business is Go Green Energy LLC. From what Mr.Nygard understands Mayor Walsh was
running around giddy that he was stealing Mr.Nygard's business and all of the Council were just sitting
up there doing what?He asked how would they feel if someone did that to them...if someone elected to
the Council decided to form a business to mirror their business,then was giddy about it and used City and
State funds to sue them to run that business out of business?This is what Mr.Nygard experienced and the
entire Council was all part of it because they were there,they were with him, and they know how he
acted. Mr.Nygard knows it now, also, and has a witness ready to step forward.Not only did that happen
but after he moved to Mayor in 2017,Walsh devised a quid-pro-quo with a neighbor to sue the City,to
sue Mr.Nygard which is unconscionable. He noted that is not how property zoning complaints work.
Rather, if the City has an issue they use their own funds to do it. The League of Minnesota Trust is for
when they are sued, but Mayor Walsh figured that and shortly after the City Council appointed Mr.
Nygard's neighbor to some new zoning council.Unfortunately for Mr."I'm going to shake my head like
who I am up there and smirk and smile."Mr.Nygard now has someone who is going to tell the truth that
Walsh abused his position as Mayor to remove one of Mr.Nygard's products, interfere with one of his
contracts, and get rid of a turbine at another business. Simply because it interfered with Mr. Walsh's
litigation with Mr.Nygard and interfered with his chance to take Mr.Nygard's business over. It happened
and they all know it. Who here works and establishes a business for years to have one of their officials
dance around with glee that they are going to steal someone's business?He noted that is what is going on
here and it is called bribery. Mr.Nygard said that is what Mayor Walsh is involved in, it is a criminal act,
and the Statue of Limitations has not expired because the court cases recently closed. Mr.Nygard noted
the Council is all exposed to this and his question to the Council Members is are they all going to do the
right thing, come forward, and talk about what happened in real light or will they simply become an
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accessory to the crimes of this man against a long-time resident, against a disabled veteran,and against
someone who owns a business in this community?
Mayor Walsh noted the three minute public comment time is up.
Mr.Nygard said Mayor Walsh has let people go longer at a previous meeting and is the Mayor going to
stop him?
Mayor Walsh asked Mr.Nygard to have a seat and asked for the podium microphone to be shut down
until Mr.Nygard sits down.He asked if anyone else would like to speak during public comment time.
FINANCE DIRECTOR REPORT
Finance Director Olson had nothing to report.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REPORT
Ms. Curtis had nothing to report.
CITY ATTORNEY REPORT
Attorney Mattick had nothing to report.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR/ENGINEER REPORT
11. RESPONSE TO LONG LAKE CITY COUNCIL LETTER ON THE LONG LAKE FIRE
DEPARTMENT
Mayor Walsh noted there is a letter response that was formed by himself and Edwards over the weekend.
The majority of those answers the City has already given to the City of Long Lake many times over the
years.The letter spells out how long they have been discussing this and all of the information Long Lake
already has about the appraisal,the pricing of the equipment, and engines that was agreed to one year ago.
The only thing Orono cannot get from Long Lake is an answer on what they want to do.Mayor Walsh
does not think there was anything in the questions that Long Lake did not have answers for so it was easy
for Mayor Walsh and Edwards to sit down and craft a letter with the answers they have already given and
note nothing had really changed.
Seals has seen the answers to these questions in multiple formats and asked Edwards if she missed
something regarding an appraisal as that was one of the items.
Edwards replied Orono did the original appraisal and the idea was that both cities would get an appraisal
on the building,they would compare, and if the cities could not come to an agreement from those two
appraisals they would seek a third tie-breaker. He noted Orono has presented the appraisal to Long Lake
but Orono has not received one in return.
Seals spoke about the pension and noted the Long Lake letter is a public letter and was also sent to the
firemen. She stated the firemen she spoke with were actually very upset regarding about Long Lake's
response in basically trying to sell an asset they do not have. Seals wonders how they can be that far off in
thinking they can sell that.
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Mayor Walsh noted the pension is owned by the Relief Association which is voted on and up to the Relief
Association.
Seals thinks it seems like a pretty big statement to put out there.
Mr. Jabbour asked to speak and asked if two of the Council Members remember talking to him in the
back of the room he told them the issue was going to come up and the response was that it was not Mr.
Jabbour's problem. He is the one who helped on that station and changed the contract,went to MnDOT
and represented Long Lake after they failed miserably,and changed the offer from$365,000 to
$7,200,000.It is unfair for the City Council particularly to say they are selling an asset they do not have.
Seals replied she was talking about the pension.
Mr. Jabbour begged their pardon and noted he made a mistake.
Seals always understood the pension to be the Fire Relief Association, noting the City is on the hook if
anything goes sideways but it has always been a very well-funded asset.
Mayor Walsh noted the question was"What is Orono's proposed purchase price for the Long Lake Fire
Department Pension Plan?"
Mr.Jabbour noted when they sat down to write the constitution for the two cities they worked very hard
against having words. This City Council are voted in at large and he does not see the need of any Council
Member because the Mayor calls the shots and they are just like a whole bunch of buffalo jumping off a
cliff.
Seals replied that is not true.
Mr. Jabbour has proven it to them over and over again.He stated right now they are exactly where they
were in 1991, in litigation with them, and Mr.Jabbour asked the Mayors of Orono and Long Lake to
please have breakfast together. He said they both told him to go you-know-where.The Mayor of Long
Lake was born in Orono and Mr.Jabbour asked them to work it out face-to-face.
Mayor Walsh replied they have met face-to-face many,many times and this conversation has been at the
City Council where they have talked about the fact that Orono is paying 90%of the bill. He clarified the
contract Mr.Jabbour put in place that the current City Council has no control over, is ending. The City of
Long Lake was told three years ago that it is ending and Orono is bringing it in-house. He noted they just
brought in a maintenance person for the trucks because they were spending so much money at the car
repair shop,and they can do it all in-house with more efficiency and is available when the City needs it
without having to wait.This is not unlike what is going on with the Fire Department.
Mr. Jabbour stated his daughter had a lot of anguish when Orono and Long Lake were having fights and
he received a lot of flak at church,as well. He noted it is a social issue,the kids go to the same school,
and he is not asking the Council to abandon their plan.He is asking them to change the approach and be
decent about it.
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Mayor Walsh thinks they have met very decently,they have met many times to talk about it,and he does
not think Long Lake wants to give up a fire department that they cannot afford to have. He noted they get
along with the City of Long Lake but they do not agree on the situation.
Crosby noted Mr. Jabbour was involved with setting up the two stations, one of which is in the City of
Orono. The fact is Orono is paying more than 85% of the bill and this is a financial consideration. They
are not looking for this to be something hostile; rather it is a matter of dollars and cents.Nobody in the
world would expect to pay 85-90% of a bill and have no say. Crosby stated that is the position Orono is in
right now,the contract is ending, and it is not going to be that way anymore.
Mr.Nygard tried looking for the letter online today and the letter from Long Lake was up but the City's
responses were not up. He agrees sometimes erasing history is more expensive than what they are talking
about and thinks it is kind of silly that this Council which is spending a lot more fees than ever before, is
all of a sudden worried about money when it comes to history in this community.
Mayor Walsh asked what fees they are raising.
Mr.Nygard replied two things, first they have changed the payment schedule from quarterly payments for
fees to monthly payments to disguise how much they are going up. In his opinion they did it to hide the
ever-escalating fees in the City.Now he has to write 12 checks a year instead of 4 checks a year and they
are making it more difficult on the constituents. He knows fees have been going up because he has been
paying them.
Crosby took offense at saying they are erasing history because he was part of that history and they put
their lives on the line for that community. There is no history that is going to be erased here.
Mr.Nygard replied the City tried giving away Summit Beach.
Mayor Walsh stated that is completely untrue.
Mr.Nygard's position is that it is bigger than the fire department.A fire lane was given to a Planning
Commission Chair for a nominal donation,they are allowing people to bike in Bederwood Park without
going through the proper process, and the City tried to give Summit Beach to the rowing club and put a
monstrous building there.Those are all facts.
Mayor Walsh asked if Mr.Nygard has anything to say about the fire department right now.
Mr.Nygard stated the City shouldn't be doing this, it is bad for the community, and Mr.Jabbour is
absolutely right it is about sitting down and communicating. Something he does not think Mr.Mayor
understands at all as an outsider coming in who does not understand what it is like to live in Long Lake
and Orono: it is like a big brother/little brother thing. Unfortunately they are doing the strong arm thing
and are not looking out for little brother.
Seals thinks the response to the letter was good, she appreciates them taking the high road on the intro,
and when she met Mr.Jabbour a few years ago he told her the fire contract would end and that the fire
department belongs in Orono. In talking to the firefighters,many of them are excited to have the chance
to have greater support from City Staff such as a finance person and a mechanic.Long Lake is smaller
and they just do not have as many people,which is okay. Seals is excited for the firefighters and their
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families,noting her husband is a firefighter. She understands it must be tough to lose a fire department,
but the history does not disappear. She thinks the letter is full of clear responses,they have done a good
job of running the numbers, and everything was talked about at work sessions. She clarified the contract
ends in 2025 and the big reason they are having this conversation now is so that there is no disruption,
there is a well thought-out plan,and the firefighters are taken care of.
Crosby wants to be clear that this Council and the Mayor have gone out of their way on several occasions
to have open dialogue with the City of Long Lake. This is not coming out of the blue for Long Lake,they
understand what is happening, and noted the response letter is direct and clear.
Printup moved,Crosby seconded,to approve sending the response letter to the City of Long Lake.
VOTE: Ayes 4,Nays 0.
MAYOR/COUNCIL REPORT
Crosby noted the news about the young man [Eli Hart] is disturbing and heartbreaking and prayers go out
to his family and the community to heal. When officers and first responders are on a scene like that it is
heart-wrenching and is something that never goes away, especially when it is a child. There is an officer
in the audience tonight and something like that should just never happen. He asked everyone to be good
to each other and watch out for each other.
Printup noted that was well-said and it is definitely weighting on his mind,more so than bickering about
contracts that took place in 1991 and the cost of land. What happened to that little boy is disgusting and
he prays for healing and strength for the police officers, firefighters, and everyone who was involved. It is
heart-wrenching.
Seals echoes her fellow Council Members and does not think there are any words to sum up their feelings
on the matter.In addition to police, fire,and family members, she thinks of the children in the little boy's
class.
Walsh stated their hearts ache for all of the communities affected. He spoke with many people this
weekend and every one asked him to be sure to say thank you to the first responders on how well they
did,how professional they are,and how safe people feel out in this area. He stated the City supports them
100% on everything, and in getting help after seeing these things. Mayor Walsh does not know how
someone can see that and not have nightmares forever. He is very thankful for the professionalism of the
support staff in the City,police force, fire department, and first responders.
ADJOURNMENT
Seals moved,Printup seconded,to adjourn the meeting at 6:58 p.m.VOTE: Ayes 4,Nays 0.
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