HomeMy WebLinkAboutPool questions Christine Mattson
From: Christine Mattson
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:03 PM
To: 'Kelly- Schoborg Land Services, Inc.'
Cc: Melanie Curtis; Jesse Struve
Subject: RE: Survey for 4355 Bayside Rd (PID 06-117-23-12-0007)
Hi Kelly,
All parts of the pool, including the apron or deck and equipment must be at least 20 feet from the drainfield and 10 feet
from other parts of the septic system.
I have copied Jesse Struve, City Engineer,on this email to address your"Bluff Analysis" question.
Have a great day.
Christine^'
From: Kelly - Schoborg Land Services, Inc. [mailto:kelly@schoborgland.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:24 AM
Subject: Fw: Survey for 4355 Bayside Rd (PID 06-117-23-12-0007)
Chris,
I see that Melanie is out today and tomorrow. Would you please help me with the following information? I would
like to know the minimum setback from a septic tank to a proposed pool, and I'd also very much like to see an
example of a "bluff analysis" in order to help me prepare one fox this property. Thank you for your help.
Sincerely,
Kelly Brouwer
Schoborg Land Services, Inc.
763-972-3221
kell��a,SchoborgLand.com
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From: "Kelly - Schoborg Land Services, Inc." <kelly(a�schoborgland.com>
To: Melanie Curtis <MCurtisCc�ci.orono.mn.us>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Survey for 4355 Bayside Rd (PID 06-117-23-12-0007)
Would you please also provide an example of a "bluff analysis", so I can get an idea of what format and what
information you're looking for?
Kelly BrouweY
Schoborg Land Services, Inc.
763-972-3221
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From: "Kelly- Schoborg Land Services, Inc." <kelly(a�schoborqland.com>
To: Melanie Curtis <MCurtis(a�ci.orono.mn.us>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: Survey for 4355 Bayside Rd (PID 06-117-23-12-0007)
Melanie,
There is a sepric tank in the rear yard under the deck on this property. What is the minimum setback from this
sepric tank to the proposed pool? Thanks for your help.
Kelly Brouwer
Schoborg Land Services, Inc.
763-972-3221
kell�p,SchoborgLand.com
From: Melanie Curtis <MCurtis ci.orono.mn.us>
To: "'Kelly- Schoborg Land Services, Inc."' <kelly(a�schoborqland.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: Survey for 4355 Bayside Rd (PID 06-117-23-12-0007)
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I just saw Paul. See the attached wetland ordinance revised.
You should show the 929.4 contour. I believe there is a bluff on this property which will probably drive the pool location to the street
side of the house...
He asked me some of these questions and asked that I send you our bluff definition. We need your survey to show the top of the
bluff. Also, if you would please provide your bluff analysis to me so I can assure the location is consistent with our definition. We've
had some trouble lately with accurate bluff information on surveys....
Bluff ineans a topographic feature, such as a hill, cliff or embankment, having the following characteristics(An area with
an average slope of less than 18 percent over a distance of 50 feet or more shall not be considered part of the bluffl:
(1) Part or all of the feature is located in a shoreland area;
(2) The slope rises at least 25 feet above the ordinary high water level of the water body;
(3) The grade of the slope from the toe of the bluff to a point 25 feet or more above the ordinary high water level
averages 30 percent or greater; and
(4) The slope must drain toward the water body.
Bluff impact zone means a bluff and land located within 20 feet from the top of a bluff.
Bluff, toe of the, means the lower point of a 50-foot segment with an average slope exceeding 18 percent.
Bluff, top of the, means that point on the cross section of a bluff below which the slope becomes more than 18 percent and
above which the average slope for a distance of 50 feet or more is 18 percent or less.
Sec. 78-1279.-Placement of structures on lots.
When more than one setback applies to a site,structures and facilities must be located to meet all setbacks. Structures shall be located
as follows:
(1) Structure and on-site sewerage system setbacks(in feet)from ordinary high water level:
� Setbacks
' Sewage
Public Water Structure Treatment
Classification Unsewered Sewered System
2
�______._ __.___._ ------.. _ __--�.___ _-____._
� NE � �150 �150 �I50
RD 100 75 75
GD 75 75 75
�Tributary 100 75 75
(2) Additional structure setbacks. The following additional structure setbacks apply,regardless of the classification of the water
body:
�Setback from: Setback
�' (in feet)
I Top of bluff 30
�Unplatted cemetery 50
i Right-of-way line of federal, state or county highway and local public and private roads 30*
* Except for detached garages on lakeshore lots as regulated in section 78-1435 and except for structures subject to less restrictive
side yard adjacent to street setbacks as regulated in the various zoning districts.
(3) Bluff impact zones. Structures and accessory facilities,except stairways, landings and lock boxes,must not be placed within
bluff impact zones.
(4) Uses without water-oriented needs. Uses without water-oriented needs must be located on lots or parcels without public waters
frontage,or, if located on lots or parcels with public waters frontage,must either be set back double the normal ordinary high water
level setback or be substantially screened from view from the water by vegetation or topography, assuming summer, leaf-on
conditions.
(5) Fences, docks, retaining walls. No fence shall be placed within the shore setback zone. Portions of dock located landward of
the OHWL shall be considered as a landing, subject to the regulations for landings per section 78-1282.Retaining walls shall not be
placed within the shore setback zone.
(6) Average lakeshore setback. No principal or accessory structure shall be located closer to the lakeshore than the average
distance fro��shoreline of existin�r�idence buildings on adjacent lots;except that this does not apply to stairways,lifts,landings
and lockboxes. Further,the average lakeshore setback shall apply only to classified lakes and shall not apply to tributaries. The
average lakeshare setback line shall be a straight line connecting the most lakeward protrusions of the residence buildings on the
immediately adjacent lakeshore lots.
a. In instances where the average lakeshore setback can not be met,administrative approval may be granted at the discretion of
the planning director provided no lake views of an adjacent lakeshore lot are obstructed and adjacent neighbors provide written
approval.
(Ord.No. 101 2nd series, § 1(]0.56(16)(C)),2-24-1992;Ord.No. 11 3rd series, § 1, 5-24-2004)
Melanie Curtis� 952249.4627 � mcurtis(ccci.orono.mn.us
From: Kelly- Schoborg Land Services, Inc. [mailto:kelly(a�schobargland.com]
Sent: Wednesday,June O5,2013 9:01 PM
To: Melanie Curtis
Subject: Re: Survey for 4355 Bayside Rd(PID 06-117-23-12-0007)
Melanie,
I just noticed that the southerly end of this parcel has what appears to be wetlands. Considering the size of this
parcel as well as the distance from the building site to the wetland area, would a wetland delineation still be
necessary? Some of the other cities I've worked with have the option of having a city specialist come on site (for
a small fee) and determine that the wetlands are sufficiently far from the building area that a wetland delineation
3
' is not necessary. Do you have something like this available? It usually is a difference between $100-200 for the
city representative or $1200 for a delineation.
Kelly Brouwer
Schoborg Land Services, Inc.
763-972-3221
kell�(�a,SchoborgLand.com
From: °Kelly- Schoborg Land Services,Inc." <kelly�a�schoborgland.com>
To: Melanie Curtis<MCurtis(c�ci.orono.mn.us>
Sent: Tuesday,June 4,2013 1:48 PM
Subject: Survey for 4355 Bayside Rd(PID 06-117-23-12-0007)
Hi Melanie,
We're doing another survey for a proposed pool. The address is 4355 Bayside Road, and the PID is 06-117-23-
12-0007.
This is a very large parcel. I assume that contours only in the area of the house and proposed pool area are
needed, not the entire parcel.
If there are any plans for septic or well, and surveys on file or any other information you can share with me, I
wou grea y apprecia e i . a you.
Sincerely,
Kelly Brouwer
Schoborg Land Services, Inc.
763-972-3221
ke11y�,SchoborgLand.com
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