HomeMy WebLinkAboutComplaint re: placing liner in wetland Andrew Mack
From: Andrew Mack
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 3:22 PM
To: 'permitting@minnehahacreek.org'
Cc: 'Brandon Wisner'
Subject: 3850 Bayside Rd - Ice Rink Liner Placed in Class 1 Wetland
Attachments: IMG 20141215 102435 457.jpg; IMG_20141215_102148_791.jpg; IMG_20141215_102138_
197.jpg; 12-15-14 Violation Map.pdf
Dear MCWD,
Today our office received a complaint regarding the placement of a liner in a Class 1 wetland is the side yard of the above
property. I am referring this complaint to your agency for follow up under the rules of the WCA.
Attached please find photos and an aerial map for your information.
Thank your for looking into this.
Andrew Mack, AICP
r��''����,r Community Development Director
;,`t'�f� City of Orono Minnesota
"C Direct 952.249.4626
amack(o�ci.orono.mn.us
www.ci.orono.mn.us
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From: Amanda Bednar[abednar@minnehahacreek.org]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:35 PM
To: Andrew Mack; Melanie Curtis; Christine Mattson
Cc: Courtney Hall
Subject: RE: 3850 Bayside Rd - Ice Rink Liner Placed in Class 1 Wetland
Attachments: IMG 20141215_102435_457.jpg; IMG_20141215_102148_791.jpg; IMG_20141215_102138_
197.jpg; 12-15-14 Violation Map.pdf
Good afternoon,
! inspected this site today and spoke with the homeowr�er. He informed me that they had previously checked about
regulations (I assume with the City?) before installing the rink. He informed me that no material was removed and the
liner is temporary. I inspected the site and reviewed the photos with our District Technician Courtney Hall and there is
no WCA violation at this time.
Please let me know if we can help you further with this at all.
Thanks,
Amanda Bednar
District Representative
15320 Minnetonka Blvd.
Minnetonka, MN 55345
952-641-4581
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From:Andrew Mack [mailto:amack@ci.orono.mn.us]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 3:22 PM
To: Permitting
Cc: Brandon Wisner
Subject: 3850 Bayside Rd - Ice Rink Liner Placed in Class 1 Wetland
Dear MCWD,
Today our office received a complaint regarding the placement of a liner in a Class 1 wetland is the side yard of the above
property. I am referring this complaint to your agency for follow up under the rules of the WCA.
Attached please find photos and an aerial map for your information.
Thank your for looking into this.
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From: lizz [clevang@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:30 AM
To: Andrew Mack
Subject: Re: 3850 Bayside Rd - Ice Rink Liner Placed in Class 1 Wetland
Hi Andrew,
I am very, very disappointed in the reply from the watershed. I understand we can't do anything about it...but
Stubbs Bay is an impaired bay. The wetlands where the rink is located happens to be a significant source of filtration for
Lake Mtka. I would think that keeping humans out of that wetlands would be a priority!! And this was no small rink.
There are many assumptions in the email from Amanda. That is,
He (owner) said no material was removed
He (owner) checked regulations -whose regulations?
And Amanda's statement: there are no WCA violations at this time - at what time would there be a violation? and what
would they be looking for?
I don't want to cause any problems here with the watershed. However, I would have liked to better understand what
Amanda is basing her opinion on. What factors were taken into consideration?What factors have no bearing on the
issue? If they cut cattails and other species to lay the liner(which they likely had to do) why is that okay?What can be cut
and what can't? Obviously wetlands were disturbed to build this thing...is there a size cut-off that would have triggered a
different opinion?
Yes..l understand that the rink is temporary. Still...l have to wonder what would happen if everyone on a wetland threw up
a liner?We have been preaching to people that they can't cut in the wetlands, can't put dirt near a wetlands, etc. etc.
Does it make sense that we spend some time in 2015 looking at our wetlands and coming up with some clarification as to
what can and cannot be done?
Thanks for following up on this. I'm hitting my head against the wall now...
Lizz
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Mack <amack@ci.orono.mn.us>
To: Lizz Levang (clevang@aol.com) <clevang@aol.com>
Sent: Fri, Dec 19, 2014 4:13 pm
Subject: FW: 3850 Bayside Rd - Ice Rink Liner Placed in Class 1 Wetland
Lizz,
This was the response I was afraid we would get. Planning Staff here at city
hall cannot identify a specific violation of our ordinance given the fact that
it is intended to be only temporary and will not `constitute' a wetland
alteration or a permanent/even temporary placement of a `structure' in the
required wetland setback area. Therefore, they can do it and there is no
violation.
[OronoLogo�ms 3 O 1]
Andrew Mack, AICP
Community Development Director
City of Orono Minnesota
Direct 952.249.4626
amack@ci.orono.mn.us<mailto:jloftus@ci.orono.mn.us>
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www.ci.orono.mn.us<http://www.ci.orono.mn.us/>
From: Amanda Bednar [mailto:abednar�minnehahacreek.org]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2 :35 PM
To: Andrew Mack; Melanie Curtis; Christine Mattson
Cc: Courtney Hall
Subject: RE: 3850 Bayside Rd - Ice Rink Liner Placed in Class 1 Wetland
Good afternoon,
I inspected this site today and spoke with the homeowner. He informed me that
they had previously checked about regulations (I assume with the City?) before
installing the rink. He informed me that no material was removed and the liner
is temporary. I inspected the site and reviewed the photos with our District
Technician Courtney Hall and there is no WCA violation at this time.
Please let me know if we can help you further with this at all.
Thanks,
Amanda Bednar
District Representative
15320 Minnetonka Blvd.
Minnetonka, MN 55345
952-641-4581
[MCWDrgbvert]
From: Andrew Mack [mailto:amack@ci.orono.mn.us]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 3 :22 PM
To: Permitting
Cc: Brandon Wisner
Subject: 3850 Bayside Rd - Ice Rink Liner Placed in Class 1 Wetland
Dear MCWD,
Today our office received a complaint regarding the placement of a liner in a
Class 1 wetland is the side yard of the above property. I am referring this
complaint to your agency for follow up under the rules of the WCA.
Attached please find photos and an aerial map for your information.
Thank your for looking into this.
[OronoLogo�ms3 O 1]
Andrew Mack, AICP
Community Development Director
City of Orono Minnesota
Direct 952 .249.4626
amack@ci.orono.mn.us<mailto:jloftus@ci.orono.mn.us>
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