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Planning Commission Meeting
April 19, 2021, 6:00 P.M.
Orono Council Chambers,2780 Kelley Parkway, Orono, MN 55356
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Council Representative: Richard F. Crosby II
Pledge of Allegiance
Approval of Agenda
Oath of Office Commissioners Erickson, Libby, Ressler
Approval of Minutes: March 15, 2021
Public Hearings:
1. LA21-000023 Mark Prueter, 3215 Crystal Bay Road, Variances (Staff: Melanie Curtis)
2. LA21-000024 Lorraine Goodwald, 706 North Arm Drive, Variances (Staff: Melanie Curtis)
3. LA21-000026 JALIN Design, LLC, 1395 Orono Lane, Variances (Staff: Melanie Curtis)
4. LA20-000047 Text Amendment related to boat storage (Staff: Jeremy Barnhart)
5. LA21-000027 Text Amendment related to plumbing in accessory buildings (Staff: Jeremy Barnhart)
Other Business:
6. LA21-000025 Dunkley—Vogstrom, 2709 Walters Port Road, Sketch (Staff: Jeremy Barnhart)
7. Update on April 12, 2021 City Council meeting
Adjourn
Planning Commission Liaison to Monday, April 26, 2021 City Council meeting: Scott Kirchner
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• Date Application Received: 03/16/2021
Date Application Considered as Complete:03/16/2021 IcLOAT
60-Day Review Period Expires: 05/15/2021
To: Chair Kirchner and Planning Commission Members
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From: Melanie Curtis, Planner i'Y1GG
Date: 19 April 2021
Subject: #LA21-000023, Mark Prueter, 3215 Crystal Bay Road,
Variances
Public Hearing
Application Summary: The applicant is requesting variances in order to replace an existing
nonconforming detached garage.
Staff Recommendation: Planning Department Staff recommends approval.
Background ",,
The applicant is requesting variances in 51°'6y ��
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generally the same location as the --s .: \
existing,failing garage.The new garage ; �Qb GARAGE
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the project will result in a 49 square foot 1.Lw °ROVEw
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side yard setback variances are c _t„�
requested.The existing home does not ••
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have an attached garage.
Practical Difficulties Analysis
Applicant Submittal Information:The applicant has identified the size of the property as
practical difficulties supporting the requested variance(s); as well as the property's orientation
and access with respect to the lakeshore, Crystal Bay Road, and the Dakota Trail.Additionally,
they have provided supporting documentation regarding Practical Difficulties attached as Exhibit
B, and should be asked for additional testimony regarding the application.
Planning Staff Practical Difficulty Analysis: Regarding practical difficulty, Staff finds that there
are practical difficulties in the lot's shape,size, width, and the configuration of the existing
garage and access over the easement in the rear which support the applicant's request for
variances in order to rebuild the existing garage with a more functional and more structurally
sound garage. The proposed garage replacement is at a scale which is consistent with the
immediate neighborhood.
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LOT ANALYSIS WORKSHEET •
Section 78-350—Garage Setbacks:
LR-1C Required Existing Proposed
Rear 10' 11.5' 10'
West Side 7.5'
3.6' 7.5'garage
4'stair
10. 'grage
East Side 7.5'
6.8'1staiar/landing 4.5'
Section 78-350—Lot Area/Width:
LR-1C Lot Area Lot Width
Required 21,780 s.f. (0.5 acres) 100'
Actual 10,965 s.f. (0.25 acre)* 53' @ 75'/60' @ OHWL
*after subtraction of 966 s.f. blacktop area of Crystal Bay Road
Section 78-1403—Structural Building Coverage:
Total Lot Area Total Structural Coverage
10,965 s.f. (0.25 acre) Allowed: 2,193 s.f. (20%)
Existing: 1,466 s.f. (13.3%)
Proposed: 1,548 s.f. (14.1%)
Section 78-1700—Hardcover Calculations:
Stormwater
Overlay District Total Area in Allowed Existing Proposed
Tier
Zone Hardcover Hardcover Hardcover
Tier 1 10,965 s.f. 2,741 s.f. 4,134 s.f. 4,085 s.f.
(25%) (37.7%) (37.3%)
Applicable Regulations:
Hardcover Variance (Section 78-1700)
The applicant is proposing 37.3%total site hardcover where 25%is permitted; 1,344 square feet
more than allowed but a 49 square foot reduction from the existing level.
The garage footprint is proposed to be increased from 20'x 22'to 22'x 24'to accommodate more
reasonably sized vehicles. The 2-car garage is proposed with an 18 foot-wide overhead door.The
driveway is 19 feet wide,the minimum required for that door width. The overall hardcover will be
reduced by 49 square feet with the removals proposed as part of the project.There are limited
parking opportunities due to the property's location along Crystal Bay Road and with access along
the Dakota Trail easement area.
Side Setback Variance (Section 78-350)
The proposed garage is shown to conform to the west and rear setbacks.The applicant has received
supporting comments from the property owner to the east where the 4.5 foot setback is proposed
(Exhibit F). An accessory shed on the property to the east appears to mitigate visual impacts of the
reduced setback. The elevation difference from the rear requires that the stairway be replaced. In
moving the stair from the east to the west side of the garage,the applicant is able to reduce •
hardcover for the pathway in addition to removal of the walls which encroach into the Dakota Rail
property. Supportive comments have also been received from the neighbor to the west where the
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3.5 foot wide stair will be 4 feet from the property line.
Governing Regulation:Variance (Section 78-123)
In reviewing applications for variance, the Planning Commission shall consider the effect of the
proposed variance upon the health,safety and welfare of the community, existing and
anticipated traffic conditions, light and air, danger of fire, risk to the public safety, and the effect
on values of property in the surrounding area. The Planning Commission shall consider
recommending approval for variances from the literal provisions of the Zoning Code in instances
where their strict enforcement would cause practical difficulties because of circumstances unique
to the individual property under consideration, and shall recommend approval only when it is
demonstrated that such actions will be in keeping with the spirit and intent of the Orono Zoning
Code. Economic considerations alone do not constitute practical difficulties. Practical difficulties
also include but are not limited to inadequate access to direct sunlight for solar energy systems.
Variances shall be granted for earth-sheltered construction as defined in Minn. Stat. §216C.06,
subd. 14,when in harmony with this chapter. The board or the council may not permit as a
variance any use that is not permitted under this chapter for property in the zone where the
affected person's land is located.The board or council may permit as a variance the temporary
use of a one-family dwelling as a two-family dwelling.
According to MN §462.357 Subd. 6(2)variances shall only be permitted when:
1. The variance is in harmony with the general intent and purpose of the Ordinance. The
proposed variances are in harmony with the purpose of the Ordinance.The substandard lot
has difficulties in its small size and width, and unique access circumstance over the
• easement on the rear.The garage location moves and improves a non-conforming existing
setback on the west side moving the encroachment toward a lesser affected property to the
east.The project results in an overall reduction in hardcover.
2. The variance is consistent with the comprehensive plan.The variances proposed to rebuild
a detached garage on this nonconforming lot are consistent with the comprehensive plan.
3. The applicant establishes that there are practical difficulties.
a. The property owner proposes to use the property in a reasonable manner not
permitted by the official controls; the request to permit re-construction of the
detached garage on the substandard lot is reasonable.
b. There are circumstances unique to the property not created by the landowner;
The substandard lot size is an existing condition, there is no available land with
which to make the property more conforming.The restricted driveway access and
lack of off-site parking availability are challenges not created by the owners.There
should be consideration for a setback variance approval for from the lot which is
substandard in width and area requirements. The project has been designed with
an effort toward limiting the additional hardcover without sacrificing functionality;
and
c. The variance will not alter the essential character of the locality. The variances
are requested in order to permit construction of a detached garage, which is
reasonable.
Additionally City Code 78-123 provides additional parameters within which a variance may be
granted as follows:
4. Economic considerations alone do not constitute practical difficulties. Economic
considerations have not been a factor in the variance approval determination.
• 5. Practical difficulties also include but are not limited to inadequate access to direct sunlight
for solar energy systems. Variances shall be granted for earth-sheltered construction as
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defined in Minn. Stat. § 216C.06, subd. 17, when in harmony with Orono City Code
Chapter 78.This condition is not applicable.
6. The board or the council may not permit as a variance any use that is not permitted under
Orono City Code Chapter 78 for property in the zone where the affected person's land is
located. This condition is not applicable, as a garage is an allowed use in the LR-1C
District.
7. The board or council may permit as a variance the temporary use of a one-family dwelling
as a two-family dwelling.This condition is not applicable.
8. The special conditions applying to the structure or land in question are peculiar to such
property or immediately adjoining property. The property's substandard size, width, and
unique configuration creates difficulties which also apply to many of the properties in the
same neighborhood.The proposed setback and hardcover level are not out of character.
9. The conditions do not apply generally to other land or structures in the district in which
the land is located. The property's substandard size, width, in addition to the unique
configuration creates difficulties which apply to very few properties in the City. The
neighboring properties have similar challenges.
10. The granting of the application is necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of a
substantial property right of the applicant. The local climate supports the need for a
residential garage.The proposed size of the garage is minimal.Granting of the setback and
hardcover variances are necessary for the preservation of the property right of the
applicant.
11. The granting of the proposed variance will not in any way impair health, safety, comfort
or morals, or in any other respect be contrary to the intent of this chapter. Granting the
variances for hardcover and setback in this situation is not contrary to the intent of the
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zoning chapter.
12. The granting of such variance will not merely serve as a convenience to the applicant, but
is necessary to alleviate demonstrable difficulty.The variances for setback and hardcover
are necessary,and do not merely serve as a convenience to the applicant.
The Commission may recommend or Council may impose conditions in granting of variances.
Any conditions imposed must be directly related to and must bear a rough proportionality to the
impact created by the variance. No variance shall be granted or changed beyond the use
permitted in this chapter in the district where such land is located.
Public Comments
Public comments have been received and are attached as Exhibit F.
Issues for Consideration
1. Does the Planning Commission find that that the property owner proposes to use the
property in a reasonable manner which is not permitted by an official control?
2. Does the Planning Commission find that the variance(s), if granted, will not alter the
essential character of the neighborhood?
3. Does the Commission find it necessary to impose conditions in order to mitigate the
impacts created by the granting of the requested variance(s)?
4. Are there any other issues or concerns with this application?
Planning Staff Recommendation
Planning Staff recommends approval of the variances as requested subject to the proposed
hardcover reductions.
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List of Exhibits
Exhibit A. Application & Narrative
Exhibit B. Practical Difficulties Documentation Form
Exhibit C. Existing& Proposed Survey/Site Plan
Exhibit D. Proposed Plans and Elevations
Exhibit E. Submitted Hardcover Calculations
Exhibit F. Public Comment
Exhibit G. Aerial Photo
Exhibit H. Property Owners List
Exhibit 1. Plat Map
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Land Use Application Summary Exhibit A
Application Date: 03/16/2021 •i
Address: 3215 Crystal Bay RD
Orono,MN 55391
Parcel Number: 1711723410010
Land Use Number: LA21-000023
Application Submitted By: Property Owner
Owner: Name: MARK R PRUETER
Address: 3215 CRYSTAL BAY RD
WAYZATA, MN 55391
Applicant: Name: Mark Prueter
Company:
Address: 3215 Crystal Bay Road
Wayzata,MN 55391
mark.prueter@gmail.com
Contact Information: Associated Contact: Mark Prueter
mark.prueter@gmail.com
Associated Contact: Mark Gronberg
markg@gronbergassoc.com •
Associated Contact: Rick Stolein
Rick
Associated Contact:
Project Description: Removing existing old detached garage located on the rear of the property
and rebuilding a new detached garage in the same location
Land Use Application Type: Amendmend Application
Appeal of Admin Decision
Concept Application
Conditional Use Permit
Site Plan Application
Subdivision Application
Subdivision Exception
Vacation Application
Variance Application
Applicant Signature:
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2021 Orono Variance Application Narrative
29-year residence of Orono, Mark and Jennifer Prueter, 3215 Crystal Bay Road respectfully
request variances for the removal of an existing 20'x 22' (440 sq ft) 1 story walkout garage to
construct a new 1 story walkout 22'x 24' (528 sq ft) garage in the rear of the property.
The existing garage is approximate 3' 6" off the west property line, 10' 3" from the east property
line and 10' from the rear property line. The structure is estimated to have been built in the
1970's. It is constructed with a block foundation on the lower level with wood construction for
the 1st floor and roof. 2"x 10"joists with 2"x 6" tongue and grove decking serve as the first-floor
garage parking area on which two SUVs are parked. We are concerned about the structural
integrity of the foundation and parking deck. As a result, we request the Orono Planning
Commissions and City Council approval of our variance application to enable us to proceed with
this project.
Side yard setback, rear yard setback, and hardcover variances are requested to enable the
construction of a new 22'x 24' 1 story walkout garage in the same vicinity. The new garage
would be centered on the property to measure 7' 5"from the west property line, 4' 5"from the
east property line and 10' from the rear property line.
The current exiting total hardcover of the property is calculated at 37.73%. Select existing
hardcover in the new construction area to be removed to reduce total proposed property
hardcover to 37.29%.
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Exhibit B
PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES DOCUMENTATION FORM
LA21-000023
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1. The property owner proposes to use the property in a reasonable manner not
permitted by the Zoning Chapter.
Response: Yes, 29-year residence of Orono, Mark and Jennifer Prueter, 3215 Crystal Bay Road
respectfully request variances for removal of the existing 20 x 22 (440 sq. ft.) 1 story walkout garage
to construct a new lstory walkout 22 x 24 (528 sq. ft.) garage in the rear of the property.
2. The plight of the landowner is due to circumstances unique to his property not created
by the landowner.
Response: The plight of the landowner is due to circumstances unique to his property not created by
the landowner. The uniquely narrow, small size, location with respect the Three Rivers Park District
Dakota Trail, the alley way, Crystal Bay Road, and required setbacks prevent a private garage
footprint consistent with the neighborhood. The proposed hardcover level, rear yard setbacks and
side yard setbacks are unique to the Property.
3. The variance, if granted, will not alter the essential character of the locality.
Response: The variances are requested in order to permit construction of a private garage detached
garage designed to mirror style of the residence and fit the character of the neighborhood.
4. Economic considerations alone do not constitute practical difficulties if reasonable use
for the property exists under the terms of the Zoning Chapter.
Response: Economic considerations are not influencing the decision to replace the existing garage
and replace with a new detached garage. The existing detached garage is uniquely constructed with a
wood supporting the parking area on first floor. Structure settling has heightened the desire to rebuild
a new garage with concrete construction
5. Practical difficulties include, but are not limited to, inadequate access to direct sunlight
for solar energy systems. Variances shall be granted for earth-sheltered construction as
defined in Minnesota Statutes, Section 116J.06, Subd. 2, when in harmony with this
Chapter.
Response: This condition is not applicable.
6. The Board of Appeals and Adjustments or the Council may not permit as a variance any
use that is not allowed under this Chapter for property in the zone where the affected
person's land is located.
Response: This condition is not applicable.
7. The Board or Council may permit as a variance the temporary use of a one-family
dwelling as a two-family dwelling.
Response: This condition is not applicable.
8. The special conditions applying to the structure or land in question are peculiar to such
property or immediately adjoining property.
.
Response: The conditions do not apply generally to other land or structures in the district in which
the land is located. The Property's substandard size, narrow width and orientation with respect to the
lakeshore, Crystal Bay Road, Three Rivers Park District Dakota Trail, alley way and adjacent properties
create difficulties which also apply to many of the properties in the same neighborhood.
9. The conditions do not apply generally to other land or structures in the district in which
said land is located.
Response: The conditions do not apply generally to other land or structures in the district in which
the land is located. The Property's substandard size and orientation with respect to the lakeshore,
Crystal Bay Road, Three Rivers Park District Dakota Trail, and adjacent properties create difficulties
which also apply to many of the properties in the same neighborhood.
10. The granting of the application is necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of a
substantial property right of the applicant.
Response: The granting of the application is necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of a
substantial property right of the applicant. Granting rear yard, side yard setbacks and hardcover
variances are necessary for the preservation of the property right of the Applicants.
11. The granting of the proposed variance will not in any way impair health, safety,
comfort, morals, or in any other respect be contrary to the intent of the Zoning Code.
. Response: The granting of the proposed variance will not in any way impair health, safety, comfort
or morals, or in any other respect be contrary to the intent of this chapter. Granting the requested
hardcover, rear yard and side yard setback variances in this unique situation is not contrary to the
intent of the zoning chapter.
12. The granting of such variance will not merely serve as a convenience to the applicant
but is necessary to alleviate demonstrable difficulty.
Response: The granting of such variance will not merely serve as a convenience to the applicant but
is necessary to alleviate demonstrable difficulty. The variances for rear yard setback, side yard
setback, and hardcover are necessary, and do not merely serve as a convenience to the Applicants.
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City of Orono
• �*onto Hardcover Calculation Worksheet
s , Property Address: 32/5 CRrfrA4 t94y' /0/14 (PRNFTEA)
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't 5, Prepared by: Date:
GAo,✓ecxc rt AS;9c /Arcs, lNC, 1/--/5_20
Stormwater Quality Overlay District Tier: (Circle one) (Tier 1) Tier 2 Tier 3 Tier 4 Tier 5
Step 1: STING HARDCOVE
In the following e i en i a items of existing hardcover on the property, keyed by letter to Certificate of
Survey (survey must accompany this form). Use as many lines as necessary to accurately depict existing
hardcover status of the property. For Tier 1 properties, identify any features by letter which are split at the
75'setback line and calculate hardcover square footage separately for each portion.
Survey Hardcover item(Describe) Length x width Total
y (Square Feet)
(Example) (Garage) , (24'x 30') (720 S.F.)
A h/auJ'E COZo S.F.
B GARAGE 5'Y6 S.F.
C DE'r/c i ITfps
7 3 S.F.
D Or rk t J'7-EAS
Z G e S.F.
E PA✓FR S/DFw/1 LK _ ZBE S.F.
F Q/A L/�F-L /A R K/UG ARE-017VC S.F.
G G424 t1EL Opt/L/FW/i y S.F..3 y8
H WaoD P74/Ai >F GANG/NG ,Ir GA4dac $9 S.F.
I 17E-AP'A1c 57 ONFS 4-FTE"P Q8 S.F.
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120 S.F.
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• L TTo,/E STGci,o t Trrp 57 S.F.
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(1) Total Existing Hardcover
y219 S.F.
Excludable Hardcover(bee City Code Sic 78-1684):
/e 1 i 2f'4 #Woe0 WALL y/ S.F.
T IAA,Lt..s S y S.F.
S.F.
S.F.
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(2) Total Excludable Hardcover 95 S.F.
(3) Net Existing Hardcover [Subtract line(2)from line(1)] y13 ' S.F.
(4) Total Lot Area ".92_2_ CC e/Atk7cp,o--Gt7fId c 44 `/Roll = /0, 956- S.F.
Proposed Hardcover Percentage [(3)+(4)] 3 7. 73 %
(Proposed Hardcover next page)
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This is an information packet regarding Hardcover. Every effort has been made to insure the accuracy of the information contained herein;
however,if any information is not consistent with provisions of the City Code,the Code provisions will prevail.
Page 8 af 9
City of Orono •
z�oNo Hardcover Calculation Worksheet
-i.''1.4t Property Address: 32/.s CRY.rrrc BAr ,Qa.to (/RwETFR)
`'r!N0"` Prepared by: Date:
GA0tva f RG f ATJoc /A Tri, /Nc. V /S to- .3-8-Z/
Stormwater Quality Overlay District Tier: (Circle one) (MID Tier 2 Tier 3 Tier 4 Tier 5
Step 2:(ROPOSED HARDCOVE)
In the following table, identify all items of proposed hardcover on the property, keyed by letter to Certificate of
Survey(survey must accompany this form). Include all existing hardcover items that are intended to remain, as
well as all proposed hardcover items that will be added. Use as many lines as necessary to accurately depict
proposed hardcover status of the property. For Tier 1 properties, identify any features by letter which are split at
the 75'setback line and calculate hardcover square footage separately for each portion.
Key to Hardcover item(Describe) Length x Width Total
Survey S.uare Feet)
(Example) (Garage) r_24'x 30') (720 S.F.)
A /YOe/f'ECEX/ c)r7J ' . /020 S.F.
B GAL,,iCc fro A£ /tFhcvEOI r+ —jt'�- S.F.
C DE-rk vi. 170S If /7 3 S.F.
D ecrK #. t1 /1 I. 2 0$ S.F.
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L 57-0,(-1" ,STOOP it fTf,P i, S 7 S.F.
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U 'AGI6frO rrilAA_GE 528 S.F.
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W 1,01611C0 1.4.A000 OfC.t; 1 Ldit,40r,vF _TZ S.F.
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(1) Total Proposed Hardcover 4'/68 S.F.
Excludable Hardcover(See City Code Sec 78-1684):
If IG/G/Llint i 4'C L4,dLL y1 S.F.
7-' ' 14/41-4,7 y2 S.F.
S.F.^
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S.F.
(2) Total Excludable Hardcover 3 S.F.r
(3) Net Proposed Hardcover [Subtract line(2)from line(1)1 y0 8 5 S.F.
(4) Total Lot Area/I 9 2 2 - 9 CC,9 Acic roP /N CA r fTA L 84 Y AcAQ = /0,95 6 S.F.
Proposed Hardcover Percentage [(3)+(4)] 3 7, 2 9 %
0
Subdivision Application-January 2016 This is an information packet regarding Hardcover. Every effort has been made to
ensure the accuracy of the information contained herein;however,if any information is
not consistent with provisions of the City Code,the Code provisions will prevail.
Page 19
Exhibit F
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS' ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FORM
I (we) eC.-\\ .S A I:\i\ le'•'Q ,) of 32q L tAL. U ‘
[print name(s)] [print-address]
h ve revie ed the las for the proposed improvement or proposed use of the property located at
S7.4 o referred to as Land Use Application No. .
I (we) understand that in executing this acknowledgement, I (we) am (are) not asked to declare approval or
disapproval of the property or use but merely to confirm for the City Council that I (we) am (are) aware of the
imp .vement ,.ns and the proposed neighbor's project or use requires Council approval.
111. 20
'roperty Owner Date
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Property Owner Date
If you have any information that may assist the City in the review of this Land Use
Application, please submit your comments to the Building &Zoning Office at least 10
days prior to the scheduled meeting date.
• ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS' ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FORM
I (we) of
[print name(s)] [print address]
have reviewed the plans for the proposed improvement or proposed use of the property located at
also referred to as Land Use Application No. .
I (we) understand that in executing this acknowledgement, I (we) am (are) not asked to declare approval or
disapproval of the property or use but merely to confirm for the City Council that I (we) am (are) aware of the
improvement plans and that the proposed neighbor's project or use requires Council approval.
Property Owner Date
Property Owner Date
If you have any information that may assist the City in the review of this Land Use
Application, please submit your comments to the Building &Zoning Office at least 10
days prior to the scheduled meeting date.
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Adjacent Property Owner Form—January 2021
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t5d--- l"R also referred to as Land Use Application No.
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disapproval of the property or use but merely to confirm for the City Council that I (we) am (are) aware of the
improvement plans and that the propos d ighbor's project or use requires Council approval.
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days prior to the scheduled meeting date.
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ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS' ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FORM
I (we) of
[print name(s)] [print address]
have reviewed the plans for the proposed improvement or proposed use of the property located at
also referred to as Land Use Application No. .
I (we) understand that in executing this acknowledgement, I (we) am (are) not asked to declare approval or
disapproval of the property or use but merely to confirm for the City Council that I (we) am (are) aware of the
improvement plans and that the proposed neighbor's project or use requires Council approval.
Property Owner Date
Property Owner Date
if you have any information that may assist the City in the review of this Land Use
Application, please submit your comments to the Building &Zoning Office at least 10
days prior to the scheduled meeting date.
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Exhibit H
RUN DATE:03/16/2021 HENNEPIN COUNTY PROPERTY INFORMATION SYSTEM(PROPERTY OWNERS LIST)
38 17-117-23 34 0052 38 17-117-23 41 0013 38 17-117-23 41 0033 II
HENNEPIN CO REGIONAL RR AUTH GREGORY J BLASKO PATRICIA A STUDSRUD
38 ADDRESS UNASSIGNED 3295 CRYSTAL BAY RD 38 ADDRESS UNASSIGNED
ORONO MN 00000 ORONO MN 55391 ORONO MN 00000
HENNEPIN COUNTY GREGORY J BLASKO PATRICIA A STUDSRUD
REGIONAL RAILROAD AUTHORITY 3295 CRYSTAL BAY RD 3130 OLD COUNTY RD
701 4TH AVE S SUITE 400 WAYZATA MN 55391 WAYZATA MN 55391
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55415
38 17-117-23 41 0001 38 17-117-23 41 0014 38 17-117-23 41 0035
DONNA KABANUK LEROY J ERGER&WIFE C G OWEN&J L HUGHES
2130 KENWOOD WAY 3265 CRYSTAL BAY RD 2175 KENWOOD WAY
ORONO MN 55391 ORONO MN 55391 ORONO MN 55391
DONNA E KABANUK LEROY J ERGER CLIFFORD G OWEN
5233 TWIN LAKE BLVD E 3265 CRYSTAL BAY RD JILL L HUGHES
BROOKLYN CENTER MN 55429 WAYZATA MN 55391 2175 KENWOOD WAY
WAYZATA MN 55391
38 17-117-23 41 0002 38 17-117-23 41 0015 82 16-117-23 32 0010
DONNA E KABANUK CRYSTAL BAY LLC THE RHONDA ONEILL REVOC TRS
2140 KENWOOD WAY 3285 CRYSTAL BAY RD 3144 NORTHVIEW RD
ORONO MN 55391 ORONO MN 55391 MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
DONNA E KABANUK CRYSTAL BAY LLC THE RHONDA ONEILL REVOC TRS
5233 TWIN LAKE BLVD E 3285 CRYSTAL BAY RD 4877 ROLLING GREEN PKWY
BROOKLYN CENTER MN 55429 WAYZATA MN 55391 EDINA MN 55436
38 17-117-23 41 0003 38 17-117-23 41 0016 82 16-117-23 32 0011
S P KANE&M A RETHLAKE DAVID A SCHMID T E EMMEL&K L EMMEL
2150 KENWOOD WAY 3309 CRYSTAL BAY RD 3138 NORTHVIEW RD
ORONO MN 55391 ORONO MN 55391 MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
SEAN PATRICK KANE DAVID A SCHMID THOMAS EDMUND EMMEL
MORGAN ANN RETHLAKE 3309 CRYSTAL BAY RD KATHERINE L EMMEL
2150 KENWOOD WAY WAYZATA MN 55391 3138 NORTHVIEW RD
WAYZATA MN 55391 MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
38 17-117-23 41 0004 38 17-117-23 41 0017 82 16-117-23 32 0012
GREGORY BLASKO DALE OLSEN&JONMARI OLSEN GERALD R ANDERSON REV TRUST
2160 KENWOOD WAY 3315 CRYSTAL BAY RD 3150 NORTHVIEW RD
ORONO MN 55391 ORONO MN 55391 MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
GREGORY BLASKO DALE OLSEN&JONMARI OLSEN GERALD R ANDERSON •
3295 CRYSTAL BAY RD 4680 CREEKWOOD TRAIL 3150 NORTHVIEW RD
WAYZATA MN 55391 MAPLE PLAIN MN 55359 WAYZATA MN 55391
38 17-117-23 41 0008 38 17-117-23 41 0027 82 16-117-23 32 0013
J HOROSHAK&A HOROSHAK J V FINNEGAN&K C FINNEGAN EDYTHE B MISEL TRUSTEE
38 ADDRESS UNASSIGNED 2190 KENWOOD WAY 3156 NORTHVIEW RD
ORONO MN 00000 ORONO MN 55391 MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
JOHN HOROSHAK JESSICA V FINNEGAN EDYTHE B MISEL TRUSTEE
ALEXA HOROSHAK KEVIN C FINNEGAN 3156 NORTHVIEW RD
3159 NORTHVIEW RD 2190 KENWOOD WAY WAYZATA MN 55391
WAYZATA MN 55391 WAYZATA MN 55391
38 17-117-23 41 0009 38 17-117-23 41 0028 82 16-117-23 32 0014
B C BAKKE&L A BAKKE JULIE COPELAND L K&R A ANDERSON TRUSTEE
3235 CRYSTAL BAY RD 2180 KENWOOD WAY 82 ADDRESS UNASSIGNED
ORONO MN 55391 ORONO MN 55391 MINNETONKA BEACH MN 00000
BRADLEY&LORI BAKKE JULIE COPELAND RICHARD A&LEESA K ANDERSON
PO BOX 86 2180 KENWOOD WAY 3205 CRYSTAL BAY RD BOX 135
MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55361 WAYZATA MN 55391 WAYZATA MN 55391
38 17-117-23 41 0010 38 17-117-23 41 0029 82 16-117-23 32 0024
MARK R PRUETER DONNA E KABANUK PATRICIA A STUDSRUD
3215 CRYSTAL BAY RD 2170 KENWOOD WAY 3130 OLD COUNTY RD
ORONO MN 55391 ORONO MN 55391 MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
MARK R PRUETER DONNA E KABANUK PATRICIA A STUDSRUD
3215 CRYSTAL BAY RD 5233 TWIN LAKE BLVD E 3130 OLD COUNTY RD
WAYZATA MN 55391 BROOKLYN CENTER MN 55429 WAYZATA MN 55391
38 17-117-23 41 0011 38 17-117-23 41 0030 82 16-117-23 32 0028
LEESA K ANDERSON ET AL TRST DONNA KABANUK J M KLOSS&R K KLOSS
3205 CRYSTAL BAY RD 38 ADDRESS UNASSIGNED 3155 NORTHVIEW RD
ORONO MN 55391 ORONO MN 00000 MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
RICHARD ANDERSON DONNA E KABANUK JOHN&ROBERTA KLOSS
3205 CRYSTAL BAY RD 5233 TWIN LAKE BLVD E 3155 NORTHVIEW RD
WAYZATA MN 55391 BROOKLYN CENTER MN 55429 WAYZATA MN 55391
38 17-117-23 41 0012 38 17-117-23 41 0031 82 16-117-23 32 0029
III
C WILLIAM WOLFE AND WIFE DONNA E KUBANUK JOYCE W MCCANN
3255 CRYSTAL BAY RD 38 ADDRESS UNASSIGNED 3148 BROOKS LA
ORONO MN 55391 ORONO MN 00000 MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
C WILLIAM WOLFE DONNA E KABANUK JOYCE W MCCANN
3255 CRYSTAL BAY ROAD 5233 TWIN LAKE BLVD E 3148 BROOKS LA
WAYZATA MN 55391 BROOKLYN CENTER MN 55429 WAYZATA MN 55391
RUN DATE:03/16/2021 HENNEPIN COUNTY PROPERTY INFORMATION SYSTEM(PROPERTY OWNERS LIST) PAGE:2
82 16-117-23 32 0030 82 16-117-23 32 0062
•
J A ROTHBAUER&C C LEAF MARY A YOUNG
3135 BROOKS LA 3157 NORTHVIEW RD
MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391 MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
JOHN A ROTHBAUER MARY A YOUNG
CONSTANCE C LEAF 3157 NORTHVIEW RD
3135 BROOKS LA WAYZATA MN 55391
WAYZATA MN 55391
82 16-117-23 32 0031 82 16-117-23 42 0032
LANCE C RADUENZ TRUST HENNEPIN CO REGIONAL RR AUTH
3142 BROOKS LA 82 ADDRESS UNASSIGNED
MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391 MINNETONKA BEACH MN 00000
JOHN B WALDRON HENNEPIN COUNTY
1951 CONCORDIA ST REGIONAL RAILROAD AUTHORITY
WAYZATA MN 55391 701 4TH AVE S SUITE 400
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55415
82 16-117-23 32 0032
BRADLEY JANS&JANET L JANS
3127 BROOKS LA
MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
BRADLEY JANS&JANET L JANS
3127 BROOKS LA
WAYZATA MN 55391
82 16-117-23 32 0052
ALAN G CARLSON
3132 NORTHVIEW RD
MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
ALAN G CARLSON
3132 NORTHVIEW RD
WAYZATA MN 55391
82 16-117-23 32 0054
RICHARD A&LEESA K ANDERSON
82 ADDRESS UNASSIGNED
MINNETONKA BEACH MN 00000
• RICHARD ANDERSON
3205 CRYSTAL BAY RD
WAYZATA MN 55391
82 16-117-23 32 0057
CAMMY&RICHARD A SKALLA JR
3124 OLD COUNTY RD
MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
CAMMY J SKALLA
3124 OLD COUNTY RD
WAYZATA MN 55391
82 16-117-23 32 0058
R&RABDO
3126 OLD COUNTY RD
MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
ROBERT&ROBERTA ABDO
PO BOX 576
WAYZATA MN 55391-0576
82 16-117-23 32 0059
R&R ABDO
3128 OLD COUNTY RD
MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
ROBERT P&ROBERTA L ABDO
PO BOX 576
WAYZATA MN 55391-0576
82 16-117-23 32 0060
J HOROSHAK&ALEXA HOROSHAK
3159 NORTHVIEW RD
MINNETONKA BEACH MN 55391
JOHN HOROSHAK
ALEXA HOROSHAK
3159 NORTHVIEW RD
WAYZATA MN 55391
• 82 16-117-23 32 0061
DONNA E KABANUK
82 ADDRESS UNASSIGNED
MINNETONKA BEACH MN 00000
DONNA E KABANUK
5233 TWIN LAKE BLVD E
BROOKLYN CENTER MN 55429
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Date Application Received: 03/17/2021
Date Application Considered as Complete:04/12/2021 liZLO` V
60-Day Review Period Expires: 06/11/2021
To: Chair Kirchner and Planning Commission Members
Adam Edwards, City Administrator
'kESHOft
From: Laura Oakden, Planner
Date: April 19, 2021
Subject: LA21-000024, Lorraine Goodwald, 706 North Arm Drive,Variances,
Public Hearing
Application Summary: The applicant is requesting side yard setback,75 foot lake yard setback,
average lakeshore setback, and hardcover variances in order to construct a new deck.
Staff Recommendation: Planning Department Staff recommends approval, in part.
Background
The applicant is proposing a new deck along the lakeside of the existing home. The existing
home and deck are currently located within the 75' lakeshore, average lakeshore and side yard
setbacks of the property. The existing deck is 95 sq.ft. The new deck will be 288 sq ft and will
. maintain the same 8 foot depth, but will be widened to match the width of the home.
The survey, attached as Exhibit C,shows an existing garage and sidewalk to be removed.
According to the aerial photo,these improvements have been removed.
Practical Difficulties Analysis
Applicant Submittal Information:The applicant has identified the existing conditions of the
home and deck in relation to the lakeshore which eliminate any building envelope on the lake
side of the home. The lot is substandard with reference to the zoning district requirements for
1.0 acre and 140 feet of width. The applicant has stated that the unique triangle shape of the
existing deck, built in 2003, results in limited use of the outdoor space and does not allow any
wheelchair accessibility. The new proposed deck is the same 8 feet in depth but is a rectangular
shape to allow for wheelchair to access the deck. No stairs are being proposed with the deck.
Additionally,they have provided supporting documentation regarding Practical Difficulties
attached as Exhibit B, and should be asked for additional testimony regarding the application.
Planning Staff Practical Difficulty Analysis: Regarding practical difficulty, Staff finds the existing
conditions of the home and deck in relation to the 75' lake yard, average lakeshore and side
yard setbacks are practical difficulties supporting a deck lakeward of the home. The property
has a unique concave shoreline making an irregular 75' lakeyard setback. The applicant is
looking to maintain the same depth of the existing deck but create a new rectangle shape,
widening the deck to allow for wheelchair access.The property is substandard with respect to
size and width and currently exceeds hardcover on the property due to driveway access,there is
no conforming locations for any additions on the property.
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Staff is not convinced, however,that the practical difficulties support a 288 sq ft deck.
LOT ANALYSIS WORKSHEET
Section 78-330—Setbacks:
DISTRICT LR-1B Required Existing Proposed
Street 30' 62.5' No Change
Side (West) 7.5' 4.5' No Change
Side (East) 7.5' 2.4' No Change
Lakeshore 75' 58' 56.64'
Average Lakeshore Not Met
Section 78-330—Lot Area/Width:
DISTRICT LR-1B Lot Area Lot Width
Required 43,560 s.f. (1 acres) 140'
Actual 7,947.3 s.f. (0.18 acre) 45' @ 75'/ 50' @ OHWL
Section 78-1680 and 78-1700—Hardcover Calculations:
Stormwater Total Area in Allowed
Overlay Zone Hardcover Existing Hardcover Proposed Hardcover
District Tie_r
Tier 1 7,947.3 s.f 1,986.75 s.f. 2625 s.f. 650 sqft. 2718 s.f. 813 sq.ft •
(25%) (33%) w/in 75' (34.2%) w/in 75'
Existing hardcover within the 75':House(410 sq.ft.), Lake Stairs(115 sq.ft.), Paver Patio(125
sq.ft.)
Proposed hardcover within the 75':House(410 sq.ft.), Lake Stairs(115 sq.ft.), Paver Patio(125
sq.ft.)NEW DECK ENCROACHMENT(163 sq.ft.)
Applicable Regulations:
Side Setback Variance (Code Section 78-330)
The property has a 7.5'setback applied to each side yard.The existing home and deck currently
encroach into the setback. The home currently is set back 4.5'to the West and 2.4'to the East.
The existing deck is 5 feet from the side yard setback to the West. The new proposed deck will
run the length of the home and is proposed to maintain the 5 foot setback along the west side
yard setback. The new deck is proposing a new encroachment in the east side property line to
4.75'where there was no current deck located.
75-foot Lake and Average Lakeshore Setback Variance(Code Section 78-1279)
The house and deck are currently located within the side yard, 75' lake yard,and the average
lakeshore setback. The closest point of the existing deck is roughly 58'to the OHWL. The new
proposed deck will create a new setback from the lake 56.6'. The average lakeshore setback
bisects the property through the existing home's footprint.This current existing location of the
home and deck limit any conforming building envelope on the lakeshore of the home and the
average lakeshore.
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Hardcover Variances (Code Sections 78-1680 and 78-1700)
The current hardcover level exceed 25%with a portion of the existing hardcover located within
the 75' lake yard. The existing hardcover level is proposed to increase from 33%to 34.2%with a
total increase of 93 sq.ft. There are no likely candidates for removal of existing hardcover.
Governing Regulation:Variance(Section 78-123)
In reviewing applications for variance, the Planning Commission shall consider the effect of the
proposed variance upon the health,safety and welfare of the community, existing and
anticipated traffic conditions, light and air, danger of fire, risk to the public safety, and the effect
on values of property in the surrounding area. The Planning Commission shall consider
recommending approval for variances from the literal provisions of the Zoning Code in instances
where their strict enforcement would cause practical difficulties because of circumstances unique
to the individual property under consideration, and shall recommend approval only when it is
demonstrated that such actions will be in keeping with the spirit and intent of the Orono Zoning
Code. Economic considerations alone do not constitute practical difficulties. Practical difficulties
also include but are not limited to inadequate access to direct sunlight for solar energy systems.
Variances shall be granted for earth-sheltered construction as defined in Minn.Stat. §216C.06,
subd. 14,when in harmony with this chapter. The board or the council may not permit as a
variance any use that is not permitted under this chapter for property in the zone where the
affected person's land is located.The board or council may permit as a variance the temporary
use of a one-family dwelling as a two-family dwelling.
• According to MN §462.357 Subd. 6(2)variances shall only be permitted when:
1. The variance is in harmony with the general intent and purpose of the Ordinance. The
requested hardcover level, side yard setback, 75' lake yard and average lakeshore
setback variances are in harmony with the Ordinance as the adjacent neighbors have
indicated their views of the lake will not be impacted by the improvements.
2. The variance is consistent with the comprehensive plan.Allowing a usable deck space for
a single family home for enjoyment of the lake is consistent with the comprehensive
plan.
3. The applicant establishes that there are practical difficulties.
a. The property owner proposes to use the property in a reasonable manner not
permitted by the official controls; The applicant is requesting to expand the deck
to allow for wheelchair accessibility and allowing a more functional rectangle
shape instead of the existing triangle shape. The applicant has noted the
request is reasonable for the use of the property. The Commission should
determine if 288 sq ft of deck is necessary and appropriate.
b. There are circumstances unique to the property not created by the landowner;
The substandard lot,concave shoreline,and existing footprint of the home and
deck and the neighboring homes are conditions not created by the landowner.
c. The variance will not alter the essential character of the locality. It does not
appear that the request deck will alter the character of the area and there is
currently an existing deck practically located in the same footprint.
Additionally City Code 78-123 provides additional parameters within which a variance may be
granted as follows:
4. Economic considerations alone do not constitute practical difficulties. Economic
considerations have not been a factor in the variance approval determination.
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•5. Practical difficulties also include but are not limited to inadequate access to direct sunlight
for solar energy systems. Variances shall be granted for earth-sheltered construction as
defined in Minn. Stat. § 216C.06, subd. 17, when in harmony with Orono City Code
Chapter 78.This condition is not applicable.
6. The board or the council may not permit as a variance any use that is not permitted under
Orono City Code Chapter 78 for property in the zone where the affected person's land is
located. This condition is not applicable, as residential improvements are an allowed
use in theLR-1B District.
7. The board or council may permit as a variance the temporary use of a one-family dwelling
as a two-family dwelling.This condition is not applicable.
8. The special conditions applying to the structure or land in question are peculiar to such
property or immediately adjoining property. The lot shape, and depth, and the home's
proximity to the lake are particular to this property.
9. The conditions do not apply generally to other land or structures in the district in which
the land is located.The setbacks of adjacent homes in this neighborhood are somewhat
similar to this lot.The conditions specifically impacting this property(lot area,lot width
and shape, and home proximity to the lake) do not generally apply to the other
properties in the LR-1B district.
10. The granting of the application is necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of a
substantial property right of the applicant. The owners indicate that granting the
variances are necessary for the preservation of their property right. However, their
property right is established by home and existing improvements on this substandard
lot.
11. The granting of the proposed variance will not in any way impair health, safety, comfort •
or morals, or in any other respect be contrary to the intent of this chapter. Granting the
variances to allow construction of a deck is not likely to impair health, safety, and
comfort.
12. The granting of such variance will not merely serve as a convenience to the applicant, but
is necessary to alleviate demonstrable difficulty. The application for the deck expansion
is limited by existing conditions of the property and orientation to the lake. The
granting of the requesting variances are necessary to alleviate the practical difficulty
resulting for the location of the existing home and limited building envelope on the
property.
The Commission may recommend or Council may impose conditions in granting of variances.
Any conditions imposed must be directly related to and must bear a rough proportionality to the
impact created by the variance. No variance shall be granted or changed beyond the use
permitted in this chapter in the district where such land is located.
Public Comments
The applicant submitted letters from the abutting neighbors in support of the project.
Issues for Consideration
1. Does the Planning Commission find that that the property owner proposes to use the
property in a reasonable manner which is not permitted by an official control?
2. Does the Planning Commission find that the variance(s), if granted, will not alter the
essential character of the neighborhood?
3. Does the Commission find it necessary to impose conditions in order to mitigate the •
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impacts created by the granting of the requested variance(s)?
4. Are there any other issues or concerns with this application?
Planning Staff Recommendation
Planning Staff recommends approval of a variance for a reasonable shaped deck that encroaches
into the lake and average lake setbacks, and increases hardcover. Staff does not support a deck
across the entire width of the home.
List of Exhibits
Exhibit A. Application
Exhibit B. Practical Difficulties Documentation Form
Exhibit C. Existing& Proposed Survey
Exhibit D. Proposed Plans
Exhibit E. Submitted Hardcover Calculations
Exhibit F. Narrative
Exhibit G. Neighbor Letters
Exhibit H. Property Images
Exhibit I. Property Owners List and Map
S
S
Letter View
Exhibit A
Land Use Application Summary
Application Date: 03/17/2021 S
Address: 706 North Arm DR
Mound,MN 55364
Parcel Number:
Land Use Number: LA21-000024
Application Submitted By: Property Owner
Owner:
Name:
Address:
Applicant: Name: Lorraine Goodwald
Company: GEM-Ash Processing LLC
Address: 706 N Arm Dry
Mound,MN 55364
lgoodwald@hotmail.com
Contact Information: Associated Contact:
Associated Contact:
Associated Contact:
Associated Contact:
Project Description: Outside Deck
Land Use Application Type: Amendmend Application 0
Appeal of Admin Decision 0
Concept Application 0
Conditional Use Permit ❑
Site Plan Application ❑
Subdivision Application ❑
Subdivision Exception LI
Vacation Application ❑
Variance Application ❑
Applicant Signature:
LA:A4.
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Letter View
Exhibit B
PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES DOCUMENTATION FORM
LA21-000024
"The property owner proposes to use the property in a reasonable manner not permitted by
the Zoning Chapter.
Response: There will be no further encroachment towards the lake than 8 feet that was approved by the
city on 10/1/2003 via the Site Plan. The plan is to have approximately a 36 by 8 foot square deck.
2. The plight of the landowner is due to circumstances unique to his property not created by the
landowner.
Response: Wheelchair assessable is a concern.
3. The variance, if granted, will not alter the essential character of the locality.
Response: The next door neighbors have been consulted. Both parties have reviewed the deck proposal
and do not object. Notes have been written for the city to review.
4. Economic considerations alone do not constitute practical difficulties if reasonable use for
the property exists under the terms of the Zoning Chapter.
Response: The deck extension is do to a personal handicap.
5. Practical difficulties include, but are not limited to, inadequate access to direct sunlight for
solar energy systems. Variances shall be granted for earth-sheltered construction as defined in
onnesota Statutes, Section 116106, Subd. 2, when in harmony with this Chapter.
Response: I believe this does not apply
6. The Board of Appeals and Adjustments or the Council may not permit as a variance any use
that is not allowed under this Chapter for property in the zone where the affected person's land
is located.
Response: Understood.
7. The Board or Council may permit as a variance the temporary use of a one-family dwelling as
a two-family dwelling.
Response: My mother will be staying with me on occasion. This is a one family dwelling.
8. The special conditions applying to the structure or land in question are peculiar to such
property or immediately adjoining property.
Response: The deck extension does not impede with the site line from either neighbor as personal notes
have been written by the homeowners.
9. The conditions do not apply generally to other land or structures in the district in which said
land is located.
Response: I do not believe this is the case.
S. The granting of the application is necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of a
substantial property right of the applicant.
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Letter View
Response: I feel this is a safety issue as stated.
11. The granting of the proposed variance will not in any way impair health, safety, comfort, Ask
morals, or in any other respect be contrary to the intent of the Zoning Code.
Response: Granting the variance will improve the health, safety, comfort and morals and is not contrary to
the intent of the zoning code.
12. The granting of such variance will not merely serve as a convenience to the applicant but is
necessary to alleviate demonstrable difficulty.
Response: This is my primary concern. My mother is 81 years old and is planning to stay with me for an
extended period of time. I need to accommodate a wheelchair (reclining for blood pressure concerns) and
navigate a radius turn safely per ADA compliance. Along with added guests this requires additional space.
The existing deck size doesn't allow for this to occur in a safe manner. The doorway opens at the narrowest
section of the deck. Refer to the Site Plan.
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City of Orono Exhibit E
�oNo Hardcover Calculation Worksheet
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Property Address: 706 North Arm Drive
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'rfSHOREe Prepared by: Date:
4-5-21
Stormwater Quality Overlay District Tier: (Circle one) Tier 1 Tier 2 Tier 3 Tier 4 Tier 5
Step 1: EXISTING HARDCOVER
In the following table identify all items of existing hardcover on the property, keyed by letter to site plan or
survey(must accompany this form). Use as many lines as necessary to accurately depict existing hardcover
status of the property. For Tier 1 properties, identify any features by letter which are split at the 75' setback
line and calculate hardcover square footage separately for each portion.
Key to Total
Hardcover Item (Describe) Length x Width
Survey (Square Feet)
(Example) (Garage) (24'x 30') (720 S.F.)
A Existing house 902 S.F.
B Existing garage 500 S.F.
C Existing driveway 877 S.F.
D Existing concrete walk 126 S.F.
E Existing deck 95 S.F.
F Existing Paver Patio 125 S.F.
G S.F.
H S.F.
S.F.
J S.F.
K S.F.
L S.F.
M S.F.
N S.F. •
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(1) Total Existing Hardcover 2625 S.F.
Excludable Hardcover(See City Code Sec 78-1684):
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S.F.
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(2) Total Excludable Hardcover S.F.
(3) Net Existing Hardcover [Subtract line(2)from line(1)) 2625 S.F.
(4) Total Lot Area 7947.30 S.F.
Proposed Hardcover Percentage [(3)_(4)] 33.0
(Proposed Hardcover next page)
Last Updated: January 2021
Note: This is an information sheet only, every effort has been made to insure the accuracy of the information contained herein; •
however, if any information is not consistent with provisions of the City Code, the Code provisions will prevail.
Page 8 of 9
City of Orono
�oNo Hardcover Calculation Worksheet
• Property Address:
706 North Arm Drive
c`
(4$fsuo9.8' Prepared by: Date:
4-5-21
Stormwater Quality Overlay District Tier: (Circle one) Tier 1 Tier 2 Tier 3 Tier 4 Tier 5
Step 2: PROPOSED HARDCOVER
In the following table, identify all items of proposed hardcover on the property, keyed by letter to site plan
or survey(must accompany this form). Include all existing hardcover items that are intended to remain, as
well as all proposed hardcover items that will be added. Use as many lines as necessary to accurately
depict proposed hardcover status of the property. For Tier 1 properties, identify any features by letter
which are split at the 75' setback line and calculate hardcover square footage separately for each portion.
Key to Total
Hardcover Item (Describe) Length x Width
Survey (Square Feet)
(Example) (Garage) (24'x 30') (720 S.F.)
A Existing house 902 S.F.
B Existing garage 500 S.F.
C Existing driveway 877 S.F.
D Existing concrete walk 126 S.F.
E I : L.... ...J (to be removed) -95- S.F.
F Existing Paver Patio 125 S.F.
G New proposed Deck 36'X 8' 288 S.F.
H S.F.
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N S.F.
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(1) Total Proposed Hardcover 2818 S.F.
Excludable Hardcover(See City Code Sec 78-1684):
G First 100 s.f.of pervious deck 100 S.F.
S.F.
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(2) Total Excludable Hardcover 100 S.F.
(3) Net Proposed Hardcover [Subtract line(2)from line(1)] 2718 S.F.
(4) Total Lot Area 7947.30 S.F.
Proposed Hardcover Percentage [(3)_(4)] 34.2
• Last Updated: January 2021
Note: This is an information sheet only, every effort has been made to insure the accuracy of the information contained
herein;however, if any information is not consistent with provisions of the City Code, the Code provisions will prevail.
Page 9 of 9
Exhibit F
City of Orono, •
I am writing to you for permission to square the deck across the back of my home. As I stated
previously, the space is needed to accommodate a reclining wheelchair for my mother. The
survey shows a deck with steps that were not built. The site plan sent to you contains the
correct measurements. My husband and I bought this home in 2010 as a foreclosure and have
little information on the entire building process of this home.The photo that was sent of the
deck post with cedar shakes will be changed to a stand-alone post. I am not asking for steps off
the deck. My neighbors have been consulted with no objections. Notes from my neighbors have
been documented for the city to review.
Thank You,
Lorraine Goodwald
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Kirk and Brigitte Otteson
710 North Arm DR
Mound MN, 55364
March 15, 2021
City of Orono
Zoning and Planning
2700 Kelley Pkwy
Long Lake MN, 55356
Dear City of Orono:
Brigitte and I are the house immediately to the south of 706 North Arm DR (Goodwald's residence).
Brigitte and I do not object the Goodwald's request to extend their deck across the lakeside of their
home. Additionally, we would approved any variances that may be required to accommodate a new
deck.
• Please call with any questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
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Kirk Otteson
Cell 952-240-1630
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Brigitte 0 eson
Cell 952-240-1630
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Kirk and Brigitte Otteson
710 North Arm DR
Mound MN, 55364
March 15, 2021
City of Orono
Zoning and Planning
2700 Kelley Pkwy
Long Lake MN, 55356
Dear City of Orono:
Brigitte and I are the house immediately to the south of 706 North Arm DR (Goodwald's residence).
Brigitte and I do not object the Goodwald's request to extend their deck across the lakeside of their
home. Additionally, we would approved any variances that may be required to accommodate a new
deck.
Please call with any questions or concerns. •
Sincerely,
7-4/- /-/-
age
Kirk Otteson
Cell 952-240-1630
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Brigitte 0 eson
Cell 952-240-1630
Exhibit G
Matthew A. o
700 North ArmGoDF
Mound,MN 55364dw ald
March 15,2021
City of Orono
Zoning and Planning
2700 Kelley Pkwy
Long Lake,MN 55356
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Dear City of Orono
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My house is located right next door,on the north side of Jerry k Lornhe lakesideraine ood of dtheir home.
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do not have an issue with Jerry and Lorraine extending their
I would also approve of any variances that maybe required to accommodate a new ec .
Please call with any questions or concerns
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Cell 218-590-0640
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RUN DATE:03/17/2021 HENNEPIN COUNTY PROPERTY INFORMATION SYSTEM(PROPERTY OWNERS LIST) PAGE:1
38 06-117-23 43 0001 38 06-117-23 43 0012 Exhibit I •
S BAKLUND&M BAKLUND K H&B M SHIN
650 NORTH ARM DR 645 NORTH ARM DR
ORONO MN 55364 ORONO MN 55364
STEVEN BAKLUND KWANG H SHIN
MELISSA BAKLUND 645 NORTH ARM DR
650 NORTH ARM DR MOUND MN 55364
MOUND MN 55364
38 06-117-23 43 0002 38 06-117-23 43 0015
S J GIRARD&B R GIRARD K DE CLERCQ&A CAUWELS
680 NORTH ARM DR 4315 LAKEVIEW CT
ORONO MN 55364 ORONO MN 55364
SANDRA J GIRARD KARLIEN DE CLERCQ
BRIAN R GIRARD ALEXANDER CAUWELS
680 NORTH ARM DR 6811 LILY LA
MOUND MN 55364 EXCELSIOR MN 55331
38 06-117-23 43 0003 38 06-117-23 43 0016
MATTHEW A GOODWALD M R HENDRICKS ETAL JT REV TR
700 NORTH ARM DR 4325 LAKEVIEW CT
ORONO MN 55364 ORONO MN 55364
MATTHEW A GOODWALD MARK&JILL HENDRICKS
700 NORTH ARM DR 4325 LAKEVIEW CT
MOUND MN 55364 MOUND MN 55364
38 06-117-23 43 0004 38 06-117-23 43 0017
JERRY A&LORRAINE GOODWALD MARK C GOODMAN
706 NORTH ARM DR 4330 LAKEVIEW CT
ORONO MN 55364 ORONO MN 55364
JERRY A&LORRAINE GOODWALD MARK C GOODMAN
706 NORTH ARM DR 4330 LAKEVIEW CT
MOUND MN 55364 MOUND MN 55364
38 06-117-23 43 0005 38 06-117-23 43 0018
KIRK A OTTESON ANDREW COHEN/KATHERINE COHEN
710 NORTH ARM DR 4340 LAKEVIEW CT
ORONO MN 55364 ORONO MN 55364
KIRK A OTTESON ANDREW DAVID COHEN •
710 NORTH ARM DR KATHERINE DONNA COHEN
MOUND MN 55364 4340 LAKEVIEW CT
ORONO MN 55364
38 06-117-23 43 0006 38 06-117-23 43 0019
D R MITCHELL&L V MITCHELL XIN HE&YAN LI
740 NORTH ARM DR 4350 LAKEVIEW CT
ORONO MN 55364 ORONO MN 55364
DEAN R&LUCY V MITCHELL XIN HE&YAN LI
740 NORTH ARM DR 4350 LAKEVIEW CT
MOUND MN 55364 MOUND MN 55364
38 06-117-23 43 0007 38 06-117-23 43 0020
J P CARLSON&T L CARLSON SOURCE LAND DEVELOPMENT INC
750 NORTH ARM DR 800 LAKEVIEW PKWY
ORONO MN 55364 ORONO MN 55364
JEFFREY P CARLSON SOURCE LAND DEVELOPMENT INC
TOM L CARLSON 18215 45TH AVE N STE D
770 N ARM DR PLYMOUTH MN 55446
MOUND MN 55364
38 06-117-23 43 0008 38 06-117-23 43 0022
JEFFREY CARLSON/TONI CARLSON SOURCE LAND DEVELOPMENT INC
760 NORTH ARM DR 38 ADDRESS UNASSIGNED
ORONO MN 55364 ORONO MN 00000
JEFFREY P CARLSON SOURCE LAND DEVELOPMENT INC
TONI L CARLSON 18215 45TH AVE N STE D
770 NORTH ARM DR PLYMOUTH MN 55446
MOUND MN 55364
38 06-117-23 43 0009 38 06-117-23 44 0001
JEFFREY P CARLSON R WALLANDER/L WALLANDER ETAL
770 NORTH ARM DR 790 NORTH ARM DR
ORONO MN 55364 ORONO MN 55364
JEFFREY P CARLSON RAPHAEL T WALLANDER
770 NORTH ARM DR LAURA C WALLANDER
MOUND MN 55364 1070 TONKAWA ROAD
ORONO MN 55356
38 06-117-23 43 0010 •
JEFFREY CARLSON TRSTEE ETAL
780 NORTH ARM DR
ORONO MN 55364
JEFFREY P CARLSON
770 NORTH ARM DR
ORONO MN 55364
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• Date Application Received: 03/17/2021 O�
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To: Chair Kirchner and Planning Commission Members y
Adam Edwards, City Administrator �
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From: Melanie Curtis, Planner h'1GG
Date: 19 April 2021
Subject: #LA21-000026,JALIN Design LLC o/b/o Tim Holland, 1395 Orono Lane,
Variances
Public Hearing
Application Summary: The applicant is requesting variances in order to rebuild two
nonconforming accessory buildings with minor changes.
Staff Recommendation: Planning Department Staff recommends approval as noted on page 6.
t x 934.4 9 'T0 01 3 3tvFr` Background
151 \ \�61 x 936.9 X937.6 On behalf of the property owner,the applicant is requesting
20 �3 x approval of variances for two separate nonconforming accessory
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932.5 �"'� 9N, -. buildings in order to reconstruct them with minor changes. The
9 20P 3' Js2' x 933.4x97 �\� x 9351 applicants prepared the plans with the goals of minimizing
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\� encroachments into required setbacks, and maintain the footprints
` 4. BOAT HOUSE �� "in-kind" as much as practical.
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x'`-$=I"9 '' "' For the boathouse:the applicant has requested side yard, lake,
+ 9341'r --- 53" 54 C" and average lakeshore setback variances in order to expand the
°' < N ""9.5 ' 932.3 9J envelope of an existing accessory building as part of an in-kind
CO n xx932.4./ 1 x 932.3 OSx ,
1 / replacement in order to meet floodplain regulations.This results in
9" ,I; WOE- N ithe corners of the new flat roof expanding outwards from the
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sloped portions of the existing roof with the building in a new
, , location±9 feet further from the lake and±2 feet further from the
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x 931 0 x 931.2 x 931.0 // For the carriage house:The carriage house is located in the
n`�` 9 .e 47" x 931 , northwest corner of the site. The applicant is proposing to raise
\ 32.0 931.2 r-�' x 930.9 the roof inside the first floor to allow for more current garage
' ' " 1 Q'45' ceiling dimensions.To accomplish this the applicant is proposing a
x 931.3
\\"-0 32' `` R g,S21931.4 minor roof and side wall change, resulting in a new envelope
x o ^30.5_� x 931.6 31: expansion slightly above the existing roof on the street side, and
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£oa£ nr 26 --. -0G �� t.; beyond the pitch of the roof on the lake side requiring rear and
side yard variances.
4111 Both of the buildings have existing plumbing, and there is an existing guest house CUP in place for the
carriage house (which also includes a variance for the substandard lot size).
FILE#LA21-000026
19 April 2021
Page 2 of 6 •
The projects are part of a comprehensive redevelopment project for the property which will also
involve construction of a new, conforming home. The proposed expansions of the nonconforming
buildings are minimal.
Practical Difficulties Analysis
Applicant Submittal Information:The applicant has identified the location of the existing buildings,
their setbacks and sizes, as well as the internal dimensions: 100-year floodplain low floor
requirement, and the need to increase the garage door and ceiling height, as practical difficulties
supporting the requested variance(s). Additionally,they have provided supporting documentation
regarding Practical Difficulties attached as Exhibit B, and should be asked for additional testimony
regarding the application.
Planning Staff Practical Difficulty Analysis: Regarding practical difficulty, Staff finds the applicant's
request for a variance for the boathouse to allow the minimum building adjustment necessary to
conform to the floodplain and shoreland low floor elevations is reasonable.The variances for both
buildings are supported by the practical difficulties resulting from the existing building locations on
the property, as well as the existing elevations of the floor and ceiling.
LOT ANALYSIS WORKSHEET
Section 78-305&78-1279—Setbacks:
LR-1A Required Existing Proposed
Rear/Street Carriage House=50' Carriage House=3' Carriage House=3'
West Side Boathouse= 15' Boathouse= 2.5' Boathouse=5' •
Carriage House= 15' Carriage House= 1' Carriage House= 1'
East Side Boathouse= 15' Boathouse=+100' Boathouse=+100'
Carriage House= 15' Carriage House=+100' Carriage House=+100'
Lakeshore Boathouse=75' Boathouse= 15' Boathouse=24'
Average The boathouse is entirely lakeward of the average Lakeshore setback line.
Lakeshore The applicant is proposing to improve the setback by±4 feet.
Section 78-305—Lot Area/Width:
LR-1A Lot Area Lot Width
Required 87,120 s.f. (2.0 acres) 200'
Actual 40,206 s.f. (0.9 acre) 158' @ 75'/ 150' @ OHWL
Section 78-1403—Structural Building Coverage:
Total Lot Area Total Structural Coverage
40,206 s.f. (0.9 acre) Allowed: 8,041 s.f. (20%)
Existing: 4,915 s.f. (12%)
Proposed: 4,915 s.f. (12%)
Section 78-1680 and 78-1700—Hardcover Calculations:
Stormwater Total Allowed
Overlay Area in Hardcover Existing Hardcover Proposed Hardcover
District Tier Zone _
40,206 10,051 s.f. 5,963 s.f. ±786 s.f. 5,615 s.f. ±786 s.f. w/in
Tier 1
s.f. (25%) (14.8%) w/in 75' (13.9%) 75'
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19 April 2021
Page 3 of 6
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Applicable Regulations:
Lake Setback and Average Lake Setback Variances (Section 78-1279)
The existing boathouse on the property is located in the 100-year floodplain. The applicant is
proposing to rebuild it with a similar size footprint and a lowered,flat roof design 9 feet further from
the lake.The boathouse will be reconstructed with an aesthetic more consistent with the future new
home (currently in the design phase).The variances are supported by the practical difficulties
resulting from the existing building location on the property,the floodplain, and the existing
elevations of the floor and ceiling. The proposed increases in volume is offset with the boathouse in
• particular by the lowering/flattening of the roof, and minimally visible to the neighbors. See page 4 of
the attached Exhibit E for photos of the existing boathouse, including a view from the living room at
1397 Orono Ln. The expansion of the building will not impact neighboring properties.
Side Yard and Rear Yard Setback Variances (Section 78-305)
The changes proposed are illustrated in the survey and building plans, attached as Exhibit C and E,
respectively. The buildings are currently nonconforming with respect to side setback.The expansions
within the setback are minimal.
Boat House
The applicants propose to increase the side yard setback 2.5 feet,to 5 feet. The boathouse will be
approximately 2' 2" higher at the edge of the building with the flat roof corners expanding upward,
and the overall height being reduced 2' 9%2" lower than the existing boathouse peak(reference pages
2 and 3 of Exhibit E to see the expansions and reductions in detail).
Carriage House
The carriage house is proposed to be reconstructed on the same footprint 1 foot from the side lot
line.The carriage house roof within the rear and side yard is approximately 1.6 feet taller than the
existing roof with an overall peak height reduction of 1' 51/2" (reference pages 6 and 7 of Exhibit E to
see the expansions and reductions for the carriage house in detail). The proposed improvements are
in blue, existing is in purple.
FILE#LA21-000026
19 April 2021
Page 4 of 6
Governing Regulation:Variance(Section 78-123) •
In reviewing applications for variance, the Planning Commission shall consider the effect of the
proposed variance upon the health,safety and welfare of the community, existing and anticipated
traffic conditions, light and air, danger of fire, risk to the public safety, and the effect on values of
property in the surrounding area. The Planning Commission shall consider recommending approval for
variances from the literal provisions of the Zoning Code in instances where their strict enforcement
would cause practical difficulties because of circumstances unique to the individual property under
consideration, and shall recommend approval only when it is demonstrated that such actions will be
in keeping with the spirit and intent of the Orono Zoning Code. Economic considerations alone do not
constitute practical difficulties. Practical difficulties also include but are not limited to inadequate
access to direct sunlight for solar energy systems.Variances shall be granted for earth-sheltered
construction as defined in Minn. Stat. §216C.06, subd. 14,when in harmony with this chapter. The
board or the council may not permit as a variance any use that is not permitted under this chapter
for property in the zone where the affected person's land is located.The board or council may permit
as a variance the temporary use of a one-family dwelling as a two-family dwelling.
According to MN §462.357 Subd. 6(2)variances shall only be permitted when:
1. The variance is in harmony with the general intent and purpose of the Ordinance.The variance
supports the minimal expansion of a non-conforming structure within in the lake yard and
average lakeshore setback.Lake yard construction prohibitions are intended to maintain the
natural lakeshore and encourage development away from the lake.Alternatively, the goals
of average lakeshore setback include protecting views from land into the lake,the requested
variances to increase the height of the existing boathouse the minimum amount necessary
to meet the ceiling height and floodplain regulations is in harmony with the Ordinance.The
most adjacent neighbors are situated so that their lake views will not be impacted by the
changes to the existing boathouse.The minimal additional mass of the flat roof areas within
the setbacks will not be closer to the lake than existing and will not negatively impact the
views into the property from the lake. Additionally,the minimal expansions proposed to the
nonconforming carriage house building will not adversely impact the adjacent property,nor
will they result in a significant massing increase within the required rear and side yard
setback areas.The requested variances to increase the height of the existing carriage house
garage ceiling while maintaining a livable height in the upper level are the minimum amount
necessary to meet the ceiling height needs.This criterion is met.
2. The variance is consistent with the comprehensive plan. The variances resulting in
reconstruction of the existing buildings (without footprint expansions) within the setbacks
in a residential zone are consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. The variance to permit
the minimal upward volume expansions is solely to upgrade the functionality of the carriage
house,as well as allow the boathouse to conform to the floodplain regulations.This criterion
is met.
3. The applicant establishes that there are practical difficulties.
a. The property owner proposes to use the property in a reasonable manner not
permitted by the official controls; The request to permit minor upward expansions
of the buildings within the setbacks appear to be reasonable;the flat roof design of
the boathouse minimizes any potential negative impacts; the mature vegetation,
and location of neighboring homes separate the buildings from the adjacent
neighbors.This criterion is met.
b. There are circumstances unique to the property not created by the landowner; The
applicant proposes to reconstruct two nonconforming buildings to improve •
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functionality for the owners. The buildings were not constructed by the current
owners and are in need of replacing due to their age and deferred maintenance;and
c. The variance will not alter the essential character of the locality. The requested
variances will not result in the property being out of character with the
neighborhood; will not expand the footprint of the buildings; or result in additional
encroachment into the setbacks toward the lake. The new encroachments will not
alter the character of the locality.This criterion is met.
Additionally City Code 78-123 provides additional parameters within which a variance may be granted
as follows:
4. Economic considerations alone do not constitute practical difficulties. Economic
considerations have not been a factor in the variance approval determination.
5. Practical difficulties also include but are not limited to inadequate access to direct sunlight for
solar energy systems.Variances shall be granted for earth-sheltered construction as defined in
Minn. Stat. § 216C.06, subd. 17, when in harmony with Orono City Code Chapter 78. This
condition is not applicable.
6. The board or the council may not permit as a variance any use that is not permitted under
Orono City Code Chapter 78 for property in the zone where the affected person's land is
located.This condition is not applicable,as accessory buildings are an allowed use in the LR-
1A District.
7. The board or council may permit as a variance the temporary use of a one-family dwelling as a
two-family dwelling.This condition is not applicable.
8. The special conditions applying to the structure or land in question are peculiar to such
property or immediately adjoining property.The proximity of the existing buildings within
• the setbacks is an existing condition which is unique to the property.
9. The conditions do not apply generally to other land or structures in the district in which the
land is located. The location and existence of the nonconforming accessory buildings is an
existing condition unique to a small number of properties in the City, but could be applied
to all other lakeshore properties with detached garages, lake yard accessory buildings and
boathouses.
10. The granting of the application is necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of a
substantial property right of the applicant. Substantial property right is provided by the
principal structure. The nonconforming buildings are allowed to be maintained and
replaced in kind. Expansion of an existing non-conforming structure is not a right, however
the buildings will be expanded in order meet modern garage functionality,and floodplain
minimum low floor regulations.
11. The granting of the proposed variance will not in any way impair health, safety, comfort or
morals, or in any other respect be contrary to the intent of this chapter. Granting the
requested variances will not adversely impact health, safety, comfort, or morals; The
Commission should determine whether the modest expansion negates to goals of the code
in relation to views into,and out of the property.
12. The granting of such variance will not merely serve as a convenience to the applicant, but is
necessary to alleviate demonstrable difficulty. The applicant asserts that the variances are
necessary to modestly increase functionality,and for safety and regulatory compliance,and
will not merely serve as a convenience to the owners.
The Commission may recommend or Council may impose conditions in granting of variances. Any
conditions imposed must be directly related to and must bear a rough proportionality to the impact
• created by the variance. No variance shall be granted or changed beyond the use permitted in this
chapter in the district where such land is located.
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Public Comments
To date, no public comments have been received.
Issues for Consideration
1. Does the Planning Commission find that that the property owner proposes to use the
property in a reasonable manner which is not permitted by an official control?
2. Does the Planning Commission find that the variance(s), if granted, will not alter the
essential character of the neighborhood?
3. Does the Commission find it necessary to impose conditions in order to mitigate the
impacts created by the granting of the requested variance(s)?
4. Are there any other issues or concerns with this application?
Planning Staff Recommendation
Planning Staff recommends approval of the variances allowing the minor upward building expansions
subject to the following conditions:
1) The boathouse shall not have hardcover landings.
2) The property owner shall sign the standard plumbing covenant regarding the plumbing within the
boathouse.
List of Exhibits
Exhibit A. Application &Owners' Narrative
Exhibit B. Practical Difficulties Documentation
Exhibit C. Existing & Proposed Survey/Site Plan •
Exhibit D. Submitted Hardcover Calculations
Exhibit E. Proposed Plans and Elevations
Exhibit F. MCWD Email
Exhibit G. Resol. No. 2444
Exhibit H. Aerial Photo
Exhibit I. Property Owners List
Exhibit J. Plat Map
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Exhibit A
Land Use Application Summary
ill Application Date: 03/17/2021
Address: 1395 Orono LN
Orono, MN 55391
Parcel Number: 0211723340006
Land Use Number: LA21-000026
Application Submitted By: Agent on behalf of property owner
Owner: Name: Wooddale Homes LLC
Address: 6117 Blue Circle Dr
Suite 101
Minnetonka,MN 55343
Applicant: Name: Jeff Lindgren
Company: JALIN Design,LLC
Address: 6514 108th Trail N.
Brooklyn Park, MN 55445
jlindgren@jalin-design.com
Contact Information: Associated Contact: Daniel Schmidt
schmidt@sathre.com
• Associated Contact: Eric Bunkers
ericb@bunkersandassociates.com
Associated Contact: Tim&Rhonda Holland
Tim.Holland@metromold.com
Associated Contact:
Project Description: Demo and Rebuild a Street side Guest House and a Lake Side Boat House.
Land Use Application Type: Amendmend Application
Appeal of Admin Decision
Concept Application
Conditional Use Permit _.
Site Plan Application
Subdivision Application
Subdivision Exception
Vacation Application
Variance Application
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Applicant Signature:
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TO: City Of Orono
FROM: Tim and Rhonda Holland(Property Owner)
SUBJECT: Variance Narrative
DATE: March 17,2021
RE: 1395 Orono Lane, Orono,Mn 55391
A future of owning a home on Lake Minnetonka has always been a part of our story.For years,we have
come to Lake Minnetonka and have spent endless hours boating and driving around the area,dreaming
and planning for the day when would be ready. Turns out, it was not as easy as we thought it would
be.....Since 2015 we have looked at over 50 properties,making multiple offers only to get out bid.Last
summer we decided to sell our cabin in Northern Minnesota so that we would be fully prepared for the
next opportunity.After that,everything fell quickly into place.Our cabin sold on September 15t and
within two weeks 1395 Orono Lane came on the market. The property checked all the boxes: close to
trails,restaurants,a beautiful South-facing lake view,garage with apartment and a historical boat house.
Our offer was made within 2 hours of touring the property. We were elated when it was accepted. Our
Lake Minnetonka chapter finally began!
The property itself has been neglected for a long while. We are already making improvements to the
property by dealing with overgrowth,untrimmed and dying trees. The next major improvements will
come with construction of the boathouse and garage this summer. In our current plan,we would like to
move the boathouse back 7 feet and rebuild a similar size structure to comply with Orono's regulations. •
Moving back 7 feet will improve the property by removing the boathouse from the floodplain, improve
the neighbors view and be more aesthetically pleasing.
Because we truly appreciate the historical value of the unique and original artifacts in the home. We are
currently working with Architectural Antiques to salvage those items.
At this time we are projecting starting our final phase of building the main house within 2-3 years. This
will give us time to completely understand the properties surroundings; seasonal wind,sun,nature and
noise.Understanding the elements will help us to build our perfect home.
Thank you,
Tim&Rhonda Holland
Exhibit B
PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES APPLICATION
TO: City Of Orono
FROM: Tim&Rhonda Holland(Property Owner)
Jeff Lindgren QALIN Design,LLC)
SUBJECT: Variance Requests for the Boat House Structure;
A)Boat House: Increase side yard setback to 5'; Increase lake setback 7';
Encroachment into average lakeshore setback; Hardcover within 75-feet of
the lake
B) Guest House: Raise garage floor elevation .5'; Raise Guest House floor
elevation .7' Adjust structure volume.
DATE: March 17,2021
RE: 1395 Orono Lane,Orono,Mn 55391
Required Variance Findings
1. The variance is in harmony with the general intent and purpose of the Ordinance.
Yes it will. To begin, back on August 4th, 1988 the city of Orono granted a variance
• resolution to the then property owner for the specific use of the lake side boat house
structure and the street side guest house.From this resolution our intent is to uphold it as
best as possible, but are uncovering difficulties that require some subtle adjustments to
meet ordinances and building codes 33 years later.With this said;
A) Yes,Our intent is to recreate a new boat house structure that has a similar footprint to
that of the existing boat house which is 786 sf. In addition,per city request,we're proposing
to move the structure out of the flood plain.In addition to this move,we felt it to be in our
and our West neighbor's best interest to increase the West side setback to 5',since the
existing structure was only located 3.2' from the property line.
B)Yes,Our intent is recreate a guest house structure that has a similar footprint to that of
the existing guest house which is 643 sf.However,the existing structure is not fit to stand
due poor construction methods, poor site water management and settling over time. Our
intent is to rebuild the structure while using current construction methods and standards.
To do so, we're request to raise the lower garage floor elevation .5' so that it can be higher
that the existing street elevation and have proper pitches to divert street water from
entering the structure.Additional,the existing structure was at one time a "Carriage
House" used for storing horse and carriages. Given time and the evolution of vehicles,a
taller ceiling is needed in the garage portion,so that we can increase the garage door height
from 6'-6"to a modest 7'0" tall door and track system. This adjustment then compounds
our needed to increase the height of the guest quarter's floor elevation and additional.7'.
Finally,with current energy code requirements and construction methods,we're proposing
an innovative roof and wall panel system,called SIPS to help minimize thicknesses while
maintaining energy code standards, but even so,we will still need to increase the volume of
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construction over the exterior wall line. But in doing so,we're proposing to reconfigure the
roof lines for a more aesthetically please roof form,while reducing the overall total roof
peak height.
2. The variance is consistent with the comprehensive plan.
Yes. A)The overall plan is to rebuild this structure out of the flood plain and while doing
so, reduce the overall height by going with a flat roof structure. The main principal build
will be begin its design journey once the boat house and guest house are complete.The main
principal house will be designed so that this new boat house structure with a flat roof,will
coordinate and be a simple stand-alone extension of the main building.
Yes. B)The overall plan is to rebuild this structure so it has proper pitch for drainage and
with surrounding water management to alleviate unwanted hydrostatic pressure on the
foundation walls. Additionally,the original guest house structure was also intended to be
used for horse carriages,but with today's horseless carriages,the standards call for higher
access points,of which we hope to achieve with this variance,there by provide access for
more off-street parking.
3.The applicant establishes that there are practical difficulties.
a. The property owner proposes to use the property in a reasonable manner not permitted by •
the official controls;
Yes,the property owner,is currently taking steps to make this their forever home,
but to are strategically taking steps to better the property by updating the(2)
smaller buildings so they are safer and more appealing,while working through the
layout and positioning of a new home that fits their needs and style for the years to
come.
b. There are circumstances unique to the property not created by the landowner;
A)Yes,for the boat house we are proposing to fixing the circumstance by relocating
the structure out of the floodplain while proposed to reduce the over all height to
allow for more lake viewing for us and our neighbors.
B)Yes,for the guest house over time settling has really taken a toll on the structure
and to fix some of these issues,floor elevations need to be increase to provide
property pitch away from structures.Additional,better water management around
the building is needed due to the existing topography.
c. The variance will not alter the essential character of the locality.
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A)The approach we're requesting is being done with the intention of bringing the spirit
back to this site and so it can work harmoniously with the neighborhood.Our intent is
to add beauty to the already charming,yet eclectic,character found in the surrounding
homes.We are also trying to work forth right at the request of the city of Orono,via
FEMA to remove an existing structure from a flood plain. In addition,we would like to
attempt to reduce some of the roof height by transitioning to a flat roof structure,but in
doing so,we would need to increase the"rebuild"volume to allow for adequate thermal
protection above the exterior wall so our structure can meet energy code compliances.
All the while allowing us to minimally adjust the existing contours and keep as many of
the mature trees as we can in the 75' lakeside side back.
B)Our alteration is being done to provide a positive effect by embracing the
neighborhood's eclectic charm. Even though we're requesting to increase the garage
elevation by.5' and the Guest house floor by.7'we are overall reducing the height of the
structure.Additional,with these elevation increases,this will allow for a minimum
standard garage door to be installed,there by allow us to use(3) parking stalls,which
reduces the number vehicle in the street and driveway and will seamlessly laces into the
existing site's contours with minimal disturbance to the existing grade and surrounding
mature trees.
Additionally City Code 78-123 provides additional parameters within which a variance may be
granted as follows:
4.Economic considerations alone do not constitute practical difficulties.
4110 Agree.A) The variance request for this structure has nothing to do with an economic
decision.It is based on ordinances and thoughtful placement for neighbors,and attempting
to rebuild using current construction methods and energy compliant codes.
Agree. B)The variance request for this structure has nothing to do with an economic
decision. It is based on recreating a similar structure in its place while making keen
decisions on elevation placements,thoughtful water management strategies and using
current construction standards to allow this structure to be used the way it was intended to
be used.
5.Practical difficulties also include but are not limited to inadequate access to direct sunlight for
solar energy systems. Variances shall be granted for earth-sheltered construction as defined in
Minn. Stat. §216C.06,subd. 2,when in harmony with Orono City Code Chapter 78.
OK
6. The board or the council may not permit as a variance any use that is not permitted under
Orono City Code Chapter 78 for property in the zone where the affected person's land is located.
OK
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7. The board or council may permit as a variance the temporary use of a one-family dwelling as a •
two-family dwelling.
OK
8. The special conditions applying to the structure or land in question are peculiar to such
property or immediately adjoining property.
Correct.A)It is in the floodplain and needs to move so it is safe and rebuilt to habitable.
Correct. B)The structure is failing do to settling and poor water management which needs
to be fixed so it is safe and rebuilt to habitable.
9. The conditions do not apply generally to other land or structures in the district in which the
land is located.
Correct.A)This request only applies to the boat house which is 100%within the property
limits and will not affect any other property or it's owners.
Correct. B)This request only applies to the guest house which is 100%within the property
limits and will not affect any other property or it's owners. •
10. The granting of the application is necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of a
substantial property right of the applicant.
Yes.A)Updating the structure is imperative since it is unhabitable and moving it out of the
floodplain is an unyielding move for the structure and surrounding parties.
Yes. B) Updating the structure is imperative since it is unhabitable due to poor water
management and settling in the foundation there by making it an unhabitable structure.
11. The granting of the proposed variance will not in any way impair health, safety,comfort or
morals,or in any other respect be contrary to the intent of this chapter.
Correct.A)Our plan is to improve these attributes by moving the structure further away
from the lake and updating the overall aesthetics for neighbors and boaters passing by.
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Correct. B) Our plan is to just the opposite with the requested adjustments we'll be able to
• create a safer and welcoming structure there by relieving added vehicles in the street and
reducing stressful traffic situations.
12. The granting of such variance will not merely serve as a convenience to the applicant, but is
necessary to alleviate demonstrable difficulty.
Correct.A)It is good practice to move the structure out of the floodplain. It is in good faith
to reduce the overall height of the structure by proposing a flat roof structure and doing so,
increasing the"rebuild"volume over the exterior wall heights.
Correct B)The guest house is falling apart due to poor water management and settling
overtime. We want to make this a safer and more manageable structure by using current
construction methods and applicable energy code standards.
Practical Difficulties Statement from Property Owner's:
A future of owning a home on Lake Minnetonka has always been a part of our story. For years,
we have come to Lake Minnetonka and have spent endless hours boating and driving around
the area,dreaming and planning for the day when we would be ready. Turns out, it was not as
• easy as we thought it would be Since 2015 we have looked at over 50 properties, making
multiple offers only to get out bid. Last summer we decided to sell our cabin in Northern
Minnesota so that we would be fully prepared for the next opportunity. After that, everything
fell quickly into place. Our cabin sold on September 15th and within two weeks 1395 Orono
Lane came on the market.The property checked all the boxes: close to trails, restaurants, a
beautiful South-facing lake view,garage with apartment and a historical boat house. Our offer
was made within 2 hours of touring the property.We were elated when it was accepted. Our
Lake Minnetonka chapter finally began!
The property itself has been neglected for a long while. We are already making improvements to
the property by dealing with overgrowth, untrimmed and dying trees.The next major
improvements will come with construction of the boathouse and garage this summer. In our
current plan,we would like to move the boathouse back 7 feet and 3' more into the property.
Our hope is to rebuild a similar size structure to comply with Orono's regulations.This
movement will improve the property by removing the boathouse from the floodplain and after
discussions with our West neighbor, it will improve their view of the lake and will be a much
more aesthetically pleasing structure.
Because we truly appreciate the historical value of the unique and original artifacts in the home.
We are currently working with Architectural Antiques to salvage those items.
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At this time we are projecting starting our final phase of building the main principal house within
2-3 years.This will give us time to completely understand the properties surroundings; seasonalII
wind,sun, nature and noise. Understanding these elements will help us to build our perfect
home that these structures will be complimenting to it.
Thank you,
Tim & Rhonda Holland
Thank you for considering our variance requests.
Respectfully,
Jeffrey A. Lindgren,President
JALIN Design, LLC
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Exhibit D
City of Orono
•s O4, Hardcover Calculation Worksheet
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Property Address: 1395 Orono Lane,Orono
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Prepared By: Sathre-Bergquist Date: 12/8/2020
SB Job Number: 37545-001 Prepared by: BRV
Stormwater Quality Overlay District Tier:(Circle One) Tier 1 Tier 2 Tier 3 Tier 4 Tier 5
Step 1:EXISTING HARDCOVER
In the following table,identify all items of existing hardcover on the property,keyed by letter to Certificate of Survey(survey
must accompany this form).Use as many lines as necessary to accurately depict existing hardcover status of the property.For
Tier 1 properties,Identify any features by letter which are split at the 75'setback line and calculate hardcover square footage
separately for each portion.
Key to Survey Hardcover Item(Describe) Length x Width Total(Square Feet)
(Example) (Garage) (24'x 30') (720 S.F.)
A HOUSE 2,766 S.F.
B STOOPS 100 S.F.
C SIDEWALK 900 S.F.
D DRIVEWAY 232 S.F.
E CONC.STEEPERS 46 S.F.
F Existing Structure 643 S.F.
G DECK 74 S.F.
H PAVER PATIO 416 S.F.
I Existing Structure 786 S.F.
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K S.F.
L S.F.
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N S.F.
O S.F.
P S.F.
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T S.F.
U S.F.
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W S.F.
X S.F.
Y S.F.
Z S.F.
(1)Total Existing Hardcover 5,963.00 S.F.
Excludable Hardcover(See City Code Sec 78-1684):
S.F.
S.F.
S.F.
S.F.
S.F.
(2)Total Excludable Hardcover 0 S.F.
(3)Net Existing Hardcover[Subtract line(2)from line(1)] 5,963.00 S.F.
(4)Total Lot Area 40,206 S.F.
Existing Hardcover Percentage[(3)+(4)] 14.83%
(Proposed Hardcover next page)
This is an information packet regarding Hardcover.Every effort has been made to insure the accuracy of the information •
contrained herein;however,if any information is not consistent with City Code,the Code provisions will prevail.
City of Orono
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Hardcover Calculation Worksheet
' Property Address: 1395 Orono Lane,Orono
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Prepared By: Sathre-Bergquist Date: 3/26/2021
SB Job Number: 37545-001 Prepared by: BRV
Stormwater Quality Overlay District Tier:(Circle One) Tier 1 Tier 2 Tier 3 Tier 4 Tier 5
Step 1:Proposed HARDCOVER
In the following table,identify all items of Proposed hardcover on the property,keyed by letter to Certificate of Survey
(survey must accompany this form).Use as many lines as necessary to accurately depict Proposed hardcover status of the
property.For Tier 1 properties,Identify any features by letter which are split at the 75'setback line and calculate hardcover
square footage separately for each portion.
Key to Survey Hardcover Item(Describe) Length x Width Total(Square Feet)
(Example) (Garage) (24'x 30') (720 S.F.)
A HOUSE 2,766 S.F.
B STOOPS 100 S.F.
C EXISTING SIDEWALK 275 S.F.
D DRIVEWAY 232 S.F.
E CONC.STEEPERS(REMOVED) 0 S.F.
F Existing Structure 643 S.F.
G DECK(REMOVED) 0 S.F.
H PAVER PATIO 416 S.F.
I Existing Structure(REMOVED) 0 S.F.
PROPOSED PATIO 300 S.F.
K PROPOSED SIDEWAY 115 S.F.
L Proposed Boat House 768 S.F.
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N S.F.
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P S.F.
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Y S.F.
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(1)Total Proposed Hardcover 5615 S.F.
Excludable Hardcover(See City Code Sec 78-1684):
S.F.
S.F.
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(2)Total Excludable Hardcover 0 S.F.
(3)Net Proposed Hardcover[Subtract line(2)from line(1)] 5615 S.F.
(4)Total Lot Area 40,206 S.F.
Proposed Hardcover Percentage[(3)+(4)] 13.97%
SThis is an information packet regarding Hardcover.Every effort has been made to insure the accuracy of the information
contrained herein;however,if any information is not consistent with City Code,the Code provisions will prevail.
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Exhibit F
MCWD Info
From: Grace Barlow
To: Jeffrey Lindgren •
Cc: Melanie Curtis
Subject: RE: 1395 Orono Lane Water Shed Permits
Date: Wednesday,March 17,2021 1:35:21 PM
Jeff,
Good afternoon!Thank you for your email regarding the Boathouse construction- my apologies for
emailing right on the Variance date. I have CCed the city on this email to let them know that it is still
in the review process but that hopefully this email can suffice as documentation for City process
deadline.
Based on the additional information you submitted to the District,the project will require review
under the District's Floodplain Alteration review. I understand that the purpose of the project is to
remove the boathouse from the floodplain, which will ultimately be a net positive for the property. I
do have some additional questions regarding the fill calculations, in order to meet District
requirements. Based on the calculations listed on the application form, it appears as though more fill
is being brought in than is being cut-the 211.5 CY difference will need to be taken out elsewhere in
the floodplain in order to achieve a net fill of zero and no loss in floodplain storage.
In addition,there are a few procedural requirements that go along with Floodplain Alteration,
including engineering review and public notice,that I can follow up with in a separate email.
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Melanie, please feel free to contact me with any additional questions regarding District review.Jeff, I
will follow up in a separate email as well.
Thanks,
Grace
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Exhibit G
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C_� . City of ORONO
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„.4:,.!.„004.„-,.:.„ RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL . : r
��� NO. 2444 '
-ORONO
A. RESOLUTION GRANTING •. •
A VARIANCE AND
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AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO -
MUNICIPAL ZONING CODE
. . . . SECTION 10.23, SUBDIVISION 4 (A) •
. .. 'FILE #1269
WHEREAS, Norwest Bank Minnesota, National Association,
formerly known as Norwest Bank •Mineapolis, National Association, as
Trustee, (hereinafter "the applicant") is the owner of the property
located at 1395 Orono Lane within 'the City of Orono (hereinafter
"City") and legally described as Lots 7 and 8, "Homes on Brown's Bay",
Hennepin County, Minnesota (hereinafter "Property"); and •
,
WHEREAS, the-applicant,"•• has:•:; made application to the City of
4111 Orono to permit the reinstallation of a guest house use in the upper or
econd level of an existing detached garage requiring an area variance of
36,990 s.f. or 3.14 acres or 79% variance. • .
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT- RESOLVED.by the City Council of Orono,
Minnesota:
- FINDINGS .
1. This application was reviewed as Zoning File #1269.
2. The property is located 'in the LR-1A, Lakeshore Residential Zoning
District requiring• two acres in area.' .
3. The property is approximately 37;250 s.f. or .85 acres in area.
4. The Orono Planning Commission reviewed this application on June 6,
1988, and recommended approval of the proposed variance to the area .
• standard that would require 4 acres or 174,240 s.f. in area for both
the principal residence and guest house per Zoning Code Section 10.23,
Subdivision 4 (Al, and recommended approval of a Conditional Use
Permit for the reinstal-latiori of the guest house use per that same
y section based on the following findings:
a. Based on the private covenant executed in 1982 by the
previous owner of the property at the request of the City of
• Orono, the existing apartment was allowed to remain with plumbing
and heating with no other attempt to alter the structure as to
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prevent future habitation. The intent and conditions of that
covenant strongly suggest that a guest apartment could be
reinstalled on the property in the future if the appropriate
1411, permits were obtained from the City of Orono.
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b. The guest house use had existed on the property prior to
, 1982 and under the current existing LR-1A Zoning District.
c. The property is now served with sewer.
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• RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
NO. 2444
ORONO
d. There will be no increase in hardcover proposed with the
reinstallation of the guest house use.
5. The City Council finds that the conditions existing on this pro-
perty are peculiar to it and do not apply generally to other property
in this zoning district; that granting the variance would not
adversely affect traffic conditions, light, air nor pose a fire hazard
or other danger to neighboring properties; would not merely serve as a
convenience to the applicant, but is necessary to alleviate a demon-
strable hardship or difficulty; is necessary to preserve a substantial
property right of the applicant; and would be in keeping with the
spirit and intent of the Zoning Code and Comprehensive Plan of the
City.
6. The City Council finds that granting a conditional use permit to
allow the reinstallation of a guest house would not be detrimental to
the health, safety or general welfare of the public, would not
• adversely affect light, air nor pose a fire hazard or other danger to •
neighboring properties, nor will it depreciate surrounding property
values and that the proposed level of use of the property will be in
keeping with the intent and objectives of the Zoning Code and
Comprehensive Plan of the City.
CONCLUSIONS, ORDER AND CONDITIONS
Based upon one or more of the above findings, the Orono City
Council hereby grants a Conditional Use Permit and Variance to Municipal
Zoning Code Section 10.23 , Subdivision 4 (A) that would allow the
reinstallation of a guest house use and approves an area variance of
136,990 s.f., 3.14 acres or 79% for two residential units on a single lot
in a zoning district that would require 4 acres, subject to the following
conditions: _
1. The guest house is for the exclusive use of the members of the
family who reside/own the principal residence on the property.
2. The guest house is not approved for rental purposes.
3. If the guest house is proposed for the use of a caretaker, a
seperate or independent Conditional Use Permit shall be required.
4. Prior to the occupancy of the guest house, the guest house must
be connected to sewer via the existing line that is under the garage.
The primary residence shall be connected to municipal sewer via an
independent new line.
5. Prior to occupancy of the guest house unit , the building
inspector must inspect the structure to see that minimal standards ares
complied with for residential habitation.
6. The accessory structure located within 75' of the lakeshore shall
never be used for habitation as a third residential unit on the
property.
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. . • RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL • ..
01, NO. 2444
ORONO
7 . The current owner must make a sewer connection payment of
S14,503.18 and a SAC payment . of $550.00 with the sewer connection
permit for the principal residence.
8 . Authorities granted by this resolution run with the property not
with the applicant, but are permissive only and must be exercised by
application for a building permit within one year of the date of
Council approval, or the special'•conditions of this resolution will
expire on that date (June 13, 1989).
9. Violation of or non-compliance with any of the terms and condi-
tions of this resolution shall constitute a violation of the zoning
code, shall automatically terminate any authority granted herein, and
shall be punishable as a misdemeanor.
10. The undersigned applicant has read, understood and hereby agrees
tothe terms of this resolution and on behalf of himself, his heirs,
successors and assigns, hereby agrees to the recording of this
resolution in the chain of title of the property.
Adopted by the Orono City Council on this 13th day of June 1988.
ATTIT:
' � / � ��A. i /� ! /.tel '
•:''othy M 'allin, City Clerk Edward J. Call/an, Jr. , Acting ayor
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Norwest Bank Minnesota, National Association, formerly known as
Norwest Bank Minneapolis, Nat ' 1 Association, a national banking
association, as Trustee, By , /l , 17
Its 1�✓t�l P itue , and .' ,A,!,W-- 7
Its04,e P lV
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4 _'3 NO. 2444
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STATE OF MINNESOTA )
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COUNTY OF HENNEPIN )
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On this y day of (i22.t u4 t , 1985
before me a Notary Pu lic within and for//said county, personally
appeared 7--/mm . 4/,tir, iiiiir.
known to me to be the person(sr described in and who executed the
foregoing instrument, and acknowledged that he (they) executed
the same as his (their) free act and deed.
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RUN DATE:03/17/2021 HENNEPIN COUNTY PROPERTY INFORMATION SYSTEM(PROPERTY OWNERS LIST)
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EDWARD H HAMM TRUSTEE K R KOKESH&B J CAVALANCIA •
485 ORONO ORCHARD RD S 1399 ORONO LA
ORONO MN 55391 ORONO MN 55391
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1465 FOX ST BONITA SPRINGS FL 34134-0761
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To: Chair Kirchner and Planning Commission Members
Adam Edwards, City Administrator A
From: Jeremy Barnhart,AICP �4&EsHOO"L
Community Development Director
Date: April 19, 2021
Subject: #LA20-000047, City of Orono Text Amendment related to Boat storage
Public Hearing
Application Summary: The City is contemplating an ordinance amendment related to the
storage of recreational equipment, including boats and boat trailers, on residential property.
Staff Recommendation: Planning Department Staff recommends approval of the ordinance as
drafted.
Background/Problem
The City Prosecuting Attorney has identified challenges to the enforcement of the regulations
related to boat and boat trailer storage,and has recommended the City amend the ordinance to
address these issues. The City Council has further directed staff that any resulting changes be
• easy to understand; understandable regulation is easier to follow. The Council noted that
residents of a lake community should expect some level of boat storage in residential districts.
During the March 15, 2021 Planning Commission meeting, Commissioners requested a
workshop to review the proposed changes. Pending the Commission workshop discussion,this
item should either be tabled, or approved.
The Commission wanted to discuss the following:
Identification of boats being regulated (Kayaks, canoes, etc.)
Fish houses
Operability
Time period (of boat storage/ repair)
Lake yard boat storage
Solution
The draft ordinance is attached as Exhibit A. The draft regulation adds a definition of boat and
fish house. It modifies the operable condition requirement as requested by the commissioners.
References to a time limit were removed,as that is one of the primary purposes behind the
amendment. The revision does require currently licensed to the owner or occupant of the
property,which should address storage of boats as a side business, or concerns with boat
density on a property. The code removes references to the length of the boat in question.
The Commission should discuss the yards where boat storage is not permissible, noting that the
• commission felt that some lake yard storage was appropriate.
FILE#LA20-47
April 19,2021
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Public Comments
To date, no public comments have been received, though one resident has requested a draft of
the ordinance.
Issues for Consideration
1. Does the Commission suggest any yards as off limits for boat storage?
2. Should fish houses be regulated like boats, or like accessory buildings?
3. Does the Commission recommend any other changes?
Planning Staff Recommendation
Planning Staff recommends the ordinance as drafted.
List of Exhibits
Exhibit A. Draft Ordinance
Exhibit B. March 15 PC Minutes-draft
References
March 15, 2021 Planning Commission Packet
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Sec.78-1577.-Exterior storage in R districts.
In all R districts,it is the responsibility of the owner of any property,improved or unimproved,to
maintain the outdoor areas;including courtyards and the like,of the property and adjacent rights-of-way
in a manner that complies with the following requirements.All recreational vehicles,mobile homes,
camping trailers,motor homes,pickup coaches,travel trailers,special mobile equipment,and utility
trailers shall meet the requirements of this Code.Additionally,all exterior storage must comply with
subdivision(6)of this section.
(1) Definitions:
a. Blight means a deteriorated condition,something that impairs or destroys.
b. Junk means any cast-off, damaged, discarded, junked, obsolete, salvage, scrapped,
unusable, worn-out or wrecked object, thing or material composed in whole or in part of
asphalt, brick, carbon, cement, plastic, or other synthetic substance, fiber, glass, metal,
paper,plaster,plaster of Paris,rubber,terra cotta,wool,cotton,cloth,canvas,organic matter
or other substance,regardless of perceived market value or requiring reconditioning in order
to be used for its original purpose.
c. Recreational vehicle. Mobile home and recreational vehicle shall mean and include the
following definitions,and shall not include any manufactured housing unit bearing a State of
Minnesota manufactured housing seal or certificate, for uses including but not limited to
those listed below:
1. Camping trailer means a folding structure,mounted on wheels and designed for travel,
recreation and vacation uses,also called a pop-up camper.
2. Motor home means a portable,temporary dwelling to be used for travel,recreation and
• vacation,constructed as an integral part of a self-propelled vehicle.
3. Pickup camper means a structure designed to be mounted on a truck chassis for use
as a temporary dwelling for travel,recreation and vacation.
4. Travel trailer means a vehicular, portable structure built on a chassis,designed to be
used as a temporary dwelling for travel, recreational and vacation uses, permanently
identified as a travel trailer by the manufacturer of the trailer.
d. Special mobile equipment means every vehicle not designed or used primarily for the
transportation of persons or property and only incidentally operated or moved over a
highway,including but not limited to:ditch digging equipment,moving dollies,pump hoists
and other well-drilling equipment, street sweeping vehicles, and other machinery such as
asphalt spreaders, bituminous mixers, bucket loaders, tractors other than truck-tractors,
ditchers,leveling graders,finishing machines,motor graders,road rollers,scarifiers,earth-
moving equipment. The term does not include travel trailers, dump trucks,truck-mounted
transit mixers, truck-mounted feed grinders, or other motor vehicles designed for the
transportation of persons or property to which machinery has been attached.
e. Utility trailer means any motorless vehicle,other than a boat trailer or personal watercraft
trailer,designed for carrying of snowmobiles,motorcycles,all terrain vehicles,or property on
its own structure and for being drawn by a motor vehicle but shall not include boat trailers,a
trailer drawn by a truck-tractor semitrailer combination,or an auxiliary axle on a motor vehicle
which carries a portion of the weight of the motor vehicle to which it is attached.
f. Boat, for the purposes of this article, means any water craft required to be registered or
licensed by the state of Minnesota.but excluding canoes.kavakes,paddle boards,or peddle
boats.
Fish House means an temporary,motorized structure constructed with the intent to provide
shelter for ice fishing.L_ Commented[JB1]:Fish house regulation introduced.
Include as a utility trailer?
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_(4) [Storage of boats and boat trailers.]Boats,unoccupied boat trailers,and boats on trailers shall
be subject to the following storage requirements when not stored for commercial purposes:
a. Licensing,operability and restorations.All boats stored outside on a residential property shall
be currently licensed to the owner or occupant of the property.All boats stored on a property
shall be in operable condition. For the purposes of this section, Inoperable condition shall
mean a boat lacking parts essential to operation, including but not limited to motor,
propeller,battery;or having the interior,including the driver's position,used for storage
in such a manner that no person can operate the vehicle.,except that inoperable boats
under active restoration may be stored on a property for not more than two years,the intent
being to discourage the long term storage of inoperable boats on residential property.
b. Principal residence required. No boat shall be stored on a property or on a group of
contiguous commonly owned properties that does not contain a principle residence structure.
c. Maximum length. Boats and unoccupied boat trailers exceeding 30 feet in length shall not
be stored on any residential property except within a fully enclosed building meeting all
applicable zoning and building code standards. Exception: Existing boats over 30 feet in
to the effective date of the ordinance from which this section is derived shall be allowed to
requirements of this section
d. Allowed storage locations. Boats and unoccupied boat trailers up to 30 feet in length may be
stored outside on residential property as follows:
1. Lakeshore Jots. Boats may be stored in a side yard, street yard, side street yard and
iakoshoro yard as long as they meet required setbacks and have no significant impact
on lake views enjoyed by adjacent neighbors. •
may be stored on trailers in a driveway in a front yard or side street yard.
le. Required setbacks. Boats, including trailered boats, and unoccupied boat trailers may be
stored in any yard,provided that a shall be stored no leaf than five feet setback is provided.
from any lot line and no lc^s than 15 feet from the principal rosidonce structure on any
adjacent lot.1 Commented[JB2]:How to handle small motorized boats
f. Screening.Screening is not required for outside boat storage when in conformance with this pulled ashore?
section.If boats are shrink wrapped,white is the preferred color but is not mandatory.
Sections 2,3.5 and 6 purposefully skipped
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8. LA20-000047 CITY OF ORONO TEXT AMENDMENT RELATED TO BOAT STORAGE
(STAFF: JEREMY BARNHART)
Staff presented a summary packet of information. The City Attorney has identified challenges to the
enforcement of the regulations related to boat and boat trailer storage, in particular the section of the code
that deals with inoperable boats and the duration that those are stored on the property. Staff and the City
Council have been discussing this over the last 6 months or so to come up with a solution to address the
issue of enforceability of the boat storage regulations. It quickly snowballed into whether they should really
look at everything. The Council, in the direction of the Staff, primarily focused on the boat and trailer
storage, to identify other glaring issues that need to be addressed, but also look at an ordinance with the
goal of keeping it simple,making it easy to understand so the residents and constituents can have confidence
in what the ordinance says and know they are satisfying that ordinance which is always a goal. Staff has
put together a draft ordinance,he provided the Commission with the entire text of that chapter for context
as it includes a lot of storage in the residential area. In the draft ordinance they are just proposing some
changes related to boat storage. Barnhart showed the section of the code that deals with the exterior zoning
and the residential zoning districts and includes vehicle storage regulations and other things. Primarily they
wanted to focus on storage of boats and boat trailers. Staff is recommending some changes that address the
City Attorney's goals in terms of keeping it enforceable, removing or suggesting the removal of the
requirement that it be operable conditions for the reason that it is hard to prove that, and certainly for a
period of more than two years. Staff said as long as the boat is currently licensed to the owner or occupant
• of the property, that is what the focus is. One is allowed to store a boat on their property as long as it is
licensed. Staff also recommended removing the recommended maximum length provisions;currently City
code says as long as the boat is less than 30 feet in length, one is allowed to store it on their property. The
question is where is that 30 feet measured—on the trailer or the boat specifically? He noted the argument
is they are a lakeshore community,people are going to have boats,and it seems reasonable that people will
want to store them on their property. If they are licensed,that is the primary goal there. The discussion for
the Commission is whether they have any guidance for the Council as to where it is appropriate within
one's lot to store a boat. The way it is drafted here is that boats and occupied trailers may be stored in any
yard except for the lake yard provided that a 5 feet setback is provided. Barnhart said this is written that
one can store it in the rear yard, side yard, front yard,but if there is a lake yard on the property the 0-75,
that one is not permitted to store the boat there. Obviously, that would not apply to storing it in the water
as the City's jurisdiction ends at the water's edge there. He welcomes feedback to take to the City Council.
He noted they also took out the dispute resolution as it seems to be a dicey situation for Staff to resolve
disputes in this manner, so Staff suggests removing it.
Bollis is thinking about kayaks, paddle boards and things that are registered boats and watercraft that are
commonly stored at the lake yard.
Barnhart noted some cities have identified what watercraft is, it is not just something that will float but
meets certain requirements. It is certainly something they can look at as an issue and he thinks that is a
good comment. He stated some of his earlier drafts had a definition of what watercraft is and he thinks it
is probably appropriate. Bollis is right, there are a number of kayaks, canoes, paddle boards that people
pull up on the shore and it seems a logical location to store those.
Bollis is curious as to how that would affect anybody that has a shore slide for a small fishing boat or jet-
.
ski. If the jurisdiction ends at the water line,things that are traditionally on a shore slide instead of a dock.
He thinks there might be a conflict on those. Otherwise,he thinks the changes look pretty good.
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Ressler agrees with Bollis. The term licensed might need to be registered,because he believes registration
tabs are how watercraft are identified. He thinks about how some people have fish houses that turn into
storage sheds and if they maintain their registration on the fish house,they can keep their storage shed so
that becomes a bit of slippery slope with a boat. Somehow,he has an idea of someone that has a giant cabin
cruiser that they are using as a guest house all of a sudden. Not a perfect scenario under any circumstances
but perhaps something to be cognizant of. He understands that the operable condition is a very difficult
thing to regulate and he thinks striking that language eliminates some vulnerabilities and some costs for
every complaint that is issued. Ressler would like the Commission to look at some other means to measure,
whether it is a timeline of any craft without being relocated or something other than the registration. He
again said,picking on fish houses that turn into storage houses or auxiliary buildings.
Barnhart thinks it is reasonable to suggest from the Commission that the Council consider changes or
regulations related to fish houses and the like.
Ressler said he cannot speak on behalf of the whole Commission but that is part of his recommendation.
Kirchner would be supportive of that. He knows it is a stretch, but for instance someone had a watercraft
fire and got it extinguished and it was towed out of the lake on to a trailer and parked in their front yard.
Technically, if they went through the registration for a boat that is completely burned out on a trailer it
would be acceptable the way this is worded right now. He believes the operable condition is something he
would still like to see in there; it would be consistent with junk vehicle ordinances for many cities around .
and how that is enforced. He agrees there is a neighboring community to the south and every time he drives
down a certain County Road Kirchner passes a sailboat on the side of the road in someone's yard that has
been there for the last 6-7 years. He is hesitant to do away with the operational condition and is not
necessarily supportive of just saying it needs to be registered because there are ways to skirt around that.
Ressler thinks so too. He has an idea that may be a happy compromise. Operable versus inoperable for a
boat versus a vehicle might be more difficult to prove; perhaps they could strike the language of operable
versus inoperable but retain the language talking about a period of time and define that time by whether it
is relocating it to a different location or lot altogether. Is there something they can use as a measurement
that does not have to do with registration as that seems like an easy work around.
Barnhart stated inoperable is nearly impossible to prove. To Ressler's point,the junk car is usually defined
as missing key components such as tires,hood, and windshields. He thinks they may expand that to apply
to boats with a hole in the hull, etcetera. Barnhart said he cannot prove that something is moved because
he does not check every day. The goal is to try to keep it reasonable and simple.
McCutcheon is thinking of those who are restoring a boat because it is technically not licensed yet or
operable yet. He is sure that is probably a small subset and perhaps even zero but one would hate to take
that away from a citizen whose lifelong dream was to retire and build a boat.
Barnhart noted they cannot do it and store it outside.
McCutcheon noted if one is building a 30-foot boat,not many people can accommodate that.
Barnhart understands and that is part of the balance. While one has the right to develop their boat, the .
neighbors have a right to not have boat construction right next door for an indefinite period of time.
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theh i i rudent to redact some
Libby can certainly see legal counsel's reticenceto doand w y t s p
of these things and get them out of here. He tends to agree with Kirchner in regard to the dilapidated or
less than sufficiently functional storage. It will still be difficult to enforce, but that and the safety aspects
of setback—he cannot answer the enforcement question but considering that so many of these boat vehicles
store a substantial amount of fuels on them perpetually and out of water, as fuel tanks usually do not get
drained. He pays dearly to store his boat indoors and he has a couple hundred gallons of fuel in the boat all
winter. If he did store it like some people would be able to do,if theyredact this and take it out,that setback
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they are removing is a safety issue that perhaps the Fire Department would chime in on. Libby suggested
seeing if they can keep the setback from the principal residence as an element of regulatory compliance so
they do not have boats that can have electrical problems start on fire in the winter with a large quantity of
fuel destroy a home.
Bollis commented on the RS district for the lake yard storage. Not to bring up Big Island, but he knows
residents out there that have no other place to store their boat if they are storing on land. It effectively has
to be in the lake yard.
Barnhart noted to keep in mind this is for residential(R)districts.
Bollis clarified this does not have anything to do with the RS?
• Barnhart will have to look at it closer,but immediately, no.
Bollis said they are not talking cabin cruisers but some people keep their fishing boats on the shore slides
in the winter.
Barnhart said that is a good point and worth exploring.
Ressler said it looks like they are proposing to strike the two-year mark as well. Perhaps there is a period
of time recognized that says this boat has not moved for 3-4 years and at some point,the City has to have
some grounds to require that action be taken. That is not going to be difficult to prove.
Barnhart stated it is, actually. He has to document for 365x2 that it did not move. That is the challenge
and it is in the code now two years and the intent was to capture people from improving their boat over an
extended period of time, but he has to prove it has been inoperable for that two-year period. If one day it
worked or floated,it is operable even though there is no engine in it. He said to capture what the main goal
is, which is impact to the neighbors, the visual impact, use of property impact, and capture and try to
regulate that versus throwing a bunch of rules at people that address some discomfort. That is what he is
trying to balance.
Ressler asked a different way. He thinks the boats they are referring to that don't move probably wouldn't
be removed and floated—at least the ones he is thinking about have not moved for several years and would
not even be mobile. But this would at least give some teeth to their language. Whether the City can enforce
it or not would be up for debate but at least it gives an argument. He sees Curtis shaking her head. He
understands how it could be difficult but if they do not have anything in there it just makes it less difficult
to enforce.
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Barnhart said Kirchner made a point about the junk car regulation and if they somehow expand it into the
junk boat, and he thinks there are some avenues there. He thinks that is what he would rather pursue than
trying to identify what moving is or those type of regulations. He noted there is a legitimate and pretty
well-established junk car regulation and he thinks they can find a way to expand that into a boat or
watercraft scenario.
Kirchner said from an enforcement standpoint he assumes it would be considered a misdemeanor violation,
as most city ordinances are. That puts them into the criminal courts where they need beyond a reasonable
doubt;for the City to say it does not look like it moved because the weeds are 8.5 feet tall growing through
the bottom of the boat, based on personal experience it will not hold up in court and they will not get a
judge to grant based on that evidence. He noted all it takes it someone to come in and say they did move it
on this day, at this time, 1:00am in the morning they pushed it 3.5 inches forward. He respects the
thoughtfulness that goes into this and how they make it actually enforceable and accomplish the goals.
Barnhart said before they go too far,they could have the public hearing.
Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 8:22 p.m.
Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 8:22 p.m.
Ressler hears Barnhart loud and clear. They are not trying to make it difficult to prove but also provide
some protection for neighbors in the community. He thinks the feedback provided is reasonable and he is •
not sure they will solve it tonight. Whether or not there is a provision of time that says it has to be taken
off the site, not just moved 3-4 feet or pulled in and pulled out. He is looking for something that could
trigger to at least provide some reasonable doubt—that is all he is after with the time provision. Bollis'
feedback is reasonable and he thinks it was heard and there is support for the lake ward setback and
depending on what kind of watercraft referred to,for example a canoe,kayak,jet-ski no a rolling slide that
brings it on to shore. Setback from principal structure from Libby is worth noting and taking into
consideration.
Erickson commented regarding vehicle storage in number 3b, item 2 in the amendment it says the vehicle
must be set back 50 feet from the property line. He thinks that is generally okay but there might be an
exception if there is a vacant lot adjacent to the vehicle, perhaps it might be more desirable for the owner
and the neighbors to have it close to the side of the vacant lot. If the lot is vacant and there is no neighbor
that will be bothered by it,it might be less objectionable to the neighborhood if it is off to that side. Perhaps
if there is some way to allow for that.
Barnhart can certainly look into that. He said the Commission is well within their rights to table action on
this. He can come back with a revision and they can act on it in April.
Ressler thinks the feedback provided is pretty good and inevitably it needs to go to the City Council to
decide. He thinks the Commission is all in agreement as to what they want it to say but they do not want
to make it complicated and put themselves in vulnerabilities. Based on that,unless anyone feels otherwise,
Ressler thinks it prudent to keep it moving and for Barnhart to clean up and present to Council.
Bollis has a question on the principal resident required(item 4b) -he is looking for clarification as it says
it has to be a principal residence and no boat shall be stored on property or group of contiguously common-
owned properties. He noted there are a lot of 50-foot-wide lots that are combined of three different lots and •
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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION
•
Tuesday,March 15,2021
6:00 o'clock p.m.
there is a house on 2 of the 3. He asked if they are saying there is no storage allowed on the other piece of
the 50 foot.
Barnhart thinks that is referring to a situation where it is almost a lot of record type of thing. He is not
proposing any changes to that but the primary objective here is that people are not allowed to store on a
vacant lot.
Ressler asked if anyone wants to approve the item.
Bollis would rather move to table than approve so the Commission can see the wording of the feedback.
Barnhart clarified if the Commission recommends approval or denial it goes to Council. If they table it,
they will see it again.
Bollis noted if the push it to Council there would be no public hearing for the language.
Barnhart said there will not be an official public hearing,but the Mayor has consistently allowed people to
speak at the meeting.
Bollis moved,Kirchner seconded,to table LA20-000047 City of Orono Text Amendment Related To
Boat Storage.
• Ressler is not entirely sure they will all be in agreement as to how they modify this language,but the City
Council has enough information going after what the Commission is going after. That would be the only
reason he would be opposed to tabling. He thinks cleaning this up sooner rather than later cleans up the
vulnerability and puts it in the Council's hand to make this revision live.
McCutcheon noted the Commission would probably like to button it up and get it done but since there is
not a citizen waiting in this situation,he tends to agree with tabling it.
Bollis said the other option would be to move it forward with the comments if they could have an official
public hearing at the City Council meeting.
Barnhart noted the Commission will not have another public hearing,and he cannot require the City Council
to hold a public hearing when the Commission has already had one. He said up front, all 7 of the
Commissioners will not like the draft ordinance. The Council has given some direction of what they would
like to see and there is certainly debate in some areas, but the breadth of comments he has gotten are
somewhat outside of that boundary. If the vote is to table, he will come back with something, but he is
prepared to go forward with a recommendation of denial on certain aspects of it, which is fine,that is the
process.
VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 2(Gettman,Ressler).
•
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•
To: Chair Kirchner and Planning Commission Members
Adam Edwards, City Administrator
ti€(t):
From: Jeremy Barnhart,AICP, Community DevelopmentkFSHO�
Director
Date: April 19, 2021
Subject: #LA21-27, City of Orono Text Amendment related to Plumbing in Residential
districts
Application Summary: The draft ordinance would remove the requirement for Conditional Use
Permits for showers/baths in accessory buildings.
Staff Recommendation: Planning Department Staff recommends approval as drafted.
Background
The city closely regulates guest apartments and guest homes,to avoid undesired increased
density in residential districts. As part of that regulation, any accessory building that includes a
shower or bath requires a conditional use permit.
• In the last 15 months,there have 8 conditional use permits for plumbing/guest houses,
including one of those for a guest house. City staff sees this as an unnecessary burden for
residents,given the conditions imposed by ordinance. When plumbing in an accessory building
is approved,the property owner is required to record a covenant against the property that
states the accessory building will not be:
a. Used for a home occupation unless specifically approved by the city or if allowed
by this Code.
b. Used as a dwelling unless a guest house conditional use permit is obtained.
c. Rented, leased or otherwise provided for use as a dwelling under any
circumstances.
To address this issue,staff proposes the changes illustrated in the draft ordinance. These
changes include:
o adjustment to the definition of a guest house to incorporate building code
standards
o Removal of the CUP requirement for plumbing improvements that include
shower or bath.
It should be noted that changes to the Conditional Use and Accessory uses sections of most
residential districts will be necessary to reflect the changes. The two sections(Section 78-228 and
78-229) are provided as examples.
Public Comments
To date, no public comments have been received.
FILE#LA21-27
April 19,2021
Page 2 of 2 •
Issues for Consideration
1. Are there any other issues or concerns with this application?
Planning Staff Recommendation
Planning Staff recommends approval of the changes as proposed.
List of Exhibits
Exhibit A. Draft Ordinance
•
•
• Plumbing in Accessory Structures Working draft
Dated 4-13-21
Sec 78-1. Guest apartment means an apartment within a principal residence structure for the sole use
of the occupants of the principal residence, including their domestic employees or their nonpaying
guests, with at least one access door to the apartment from within the principal structure, such door
being the primary access to the apartment.
Guest house means an accessory separate dwelling dwelling unit in a detached accessory building
constructed on an existing undivided lot for the sole use of the occupants, including their domestic
employees or their nonpaying guests, of the primary dwelling. All regular lot requirements shall be
met by the guest house. For the purposes of this Chapter, a guest house is considered a dwelling unit
if it meets all of the requirements of a dwelling unit outlined in the Minnesota State Building Code, as
amended from time to time. These requirements include complete independent living facilities with
permanent provisions for living, sleeping, eating, cooking, and sanitation.
Sec.78-1437. Plumbing.
• Because the provision of plumbing fixtures and wastewater plumbing in accessory buildings has the
potential to allow such buildings to be used as dwelling units, and because it is the policy of the city to
limit residential development density to the allowed densities within the respective zoning districts,
plumbing in accessory buildings shall be regulated as follows:
(1) The provision of outside sillcocks and indoor water supply shall be allowed in any accessory
building.
(2) Installation of any combination of fixtures requiring wastewater plumbing that does not
• . •_ _ .. • . _ . . . . -: in any accessory building-,subject to provision
of municipal sanitary sewer or a conforming sewage treatment system designed to handle the
anticipated flows from such fixtures, and subject to the property owner's executing a
covenant providing that the accessory building will not be:
a. Used for a home occupation unless specifically approved by the city or if allowed by this
Code.
b. Used as a dwelling unless a guest house conditional use permit is obtained.
c. Rented, leased or otherwise provided for use as a dwelling under any circumstances.
(3) Installation of any combination of fixtures requiring wastewater plumbing that includes a
shower or bathtub shall be allowed only in an accessory building which meets one of the
following criteria:
a. The accessory building has been approved for a guest house conditional use permit;or
b. The accessory building has been approved for a bathtub or shower in accessory building
• conditional use permit.
•
Sec 78-228 Conditional Uses (Typically found in all residential zoning districts)
(2) Guest houses and non rental guest apartments.
a. Guest houses, provided that:
1. The lot is at least two times the minimum lot area required by this section; and
2. The guest house is for the sole use of the occupants of the principle dwelling,
including their domestic employees and nonpaying guests.
3. The property owner executing a covenant providing that the Guest House will not be:
a. Used for a home occupation unless specifically approved by the city or if
allowed by this Code.
b. Rented, leased or otherwise provided for use as a dwelling under any
circumstances.
b. Guest apartments with exterior ingress and egress, provided that:
•
2. There is at least one access door to the apartment from inside the principal dwelling
and this door is the primary means of accessing the apartment;
3.The guest apartment does not have a separate address;
'1. The guest apartment's utilities are not metered separately from the principal
dwelling; and
5.The guest apartment is for the sole use of the occupants of the principal dwelling,
including their domestic employees and nonpaying guests.
(6) Provision of a bathtub or shower in an acce-sory building. Approval shall be conditioned on
provision of municipal sanitary sewer or a conforming sewage treatment system designed to
handle the anticipated flows from the building plumbing. Approval shall be granted only when the
a. The council finds that the proposed use of the accessory structure with a bathtub or shower
will not be detrimental to the residential character of the neighborhood.
b. The council finds that the plumbing fixtures proposed are in keeping with the intended use of
the accessory building.
•
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the accessory building will not be:
Code.
2. Used as a dwelling unless a guest house conditional use permit is obtained.
Sec. 78-229.Accessory uses. (Typically found in all residential zoning districts)
Within any R-1A one-family residential district,the only permitted accessory uses and structures are the
following:
(17) Guest apartments with exterior ingress and egress, provided that:
1. The guest apartment does not create concerns with regard to parking, or sewage
treatment;
2. There is at least one access door to the apartment from inside the principal dwelling and
this door is the primary means of accessing the apartment;
3. the guest apartment does not have a separate address;
• 4. The guest apartment's utilities are not metered separately from the principal dwelling;and
5. The guest apartment is for the sole use of the occupants of the principal dwelling, including
their domestic employees and nonpaying guests.
•
Item 6
From: Griffith,William C.
To: Jeremy Barnhart
Subject: RE:2710 Pence-2709 Walters Port application
Date: Monday,April 19,2021 1:26:31 PM
Jeremy,
I appreciate the information you provided on the above matter. I want you to know that my clients
are opposed to this application for the following reasons:
The prior condition requiring access to Walters Port Lane was intended to minimize the traffic on
Pence Lane which is a private driveway and not constructed to City road standards.
The second driveway is duplicative of the access on Walters Port Lane and unnecessary. Therefore,
the owners will not be able to show either undue hardship or practical difficulties as the criteria to
support a variance.
The introduction of a second driveway parallel to the existing driveway serving the Vogstrom and
Hueler homes is unsightly and unnecessary and increases impervious surface in the shoreland zone.
As a practical matter, my clients have endured years of construction activity,code violations, debris
and broken utilities, and this project simply increases that activity without legal justification.
Please share these concerns with the City Council. Thank you.
Bill
William C. Griffith
Shareholder Larkin Hoffman Attorneys
direct 1952-896-3290
mobile 1612-986-7711
1311,
8300 Norman Center Drive
Suite 1000
Minneapolis,MN 55437-1060
www.larkinhoffman.com
From:Jeremy Barnhart<jbarnhart@ci.orono.mn.us>
Sent: Friday,April 16, 2021 11:45 AM
To:Griffith, William C. <wgriffith@larkinhoffman.com>
Subject: 2710 Pence- 2709 Walters Port application
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FYI
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City of Orono
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To: Chair Kirchner and Planning Commission Members
Adam Edwards, City Administrator A
From: Jeremy Barnhart,AICP, Community Development q �'
Director ` kFSHo�
Date: April 19, 2021
Subject: #LA21-25, Eric Vogstrom o/b/o Eric Vogstrom and William and Susan Dunkley
2709 Walters Port and 2710 Pence Lane,Sketch Plan review
Application Summary: The applicant is requesting non-binding feedback on a proposal to
amend the conditions imposed on the original final plat for the subject parcels, resulting in a
replast of the two buildable lots and the outlot.
Staff Recommendation: Planning Department Staff requests direction on the proposed
changes to the Final Plat conditions.
Background
The sketch plan is a voluntary 1"step in a platting/subdivision process and gives the applicant
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an opportunity to hear initial comments prior to formal application. This sketch plan is to
review possible changes to a previously approved resolution that approved a final plat. This
project is not a subdivision (it does not create any new lots), but rather an amendment to the
Final Plat Resolution,and the process to amend these conditions follows the same process that
applied them: Preliminary and Final Plat.
In November 2018,the City Council approved Resolution 6918 (attached, Exhibit D),which
created Pence Lane Addition,which platted the two parcels and an outlot, Outlot A. Included in
the conditions of approval were the following statements:
4)Access to Lot 1 (2709 Walters Port)will be via Walters Port Lane only.
6) Vehicular access to Pence Lane from Lot 1 is expressly prohibited.
The conditions were added to prevent 2709 Walters Port from connecting to Pence, creating a
3rd lot with connection to Pence, a private driveway. City Code allows for up to 2 lots to connect
to a private driveway; 3 or more requires the conversion of the driveway to at least a private
road standard.
The applicants now propose a new plat and improvements to Pence Lane, including the
establishment of a cul de sac conforming to city standards. If Pence Lane is improved to a
private road standard,the connection to Walters Port is permissible, however,the conditions of
the Plat must be formally removed.
• The attached Exhibit B illustrates the proposed changes to the boundary lines, including cul de
FILE#LA21-25
April 19,2021
Page 2 of 3
sac and driveways.
LOT ANALYSIS WORKSHEET
The proposed changes to the boundary lines do not impact any setbacks for the principal or
accessory structures. Impacts to the hardcover calculations are summarized below.
Section 78-330—Lot Area/Width:
DISTRICT LR-1B Lot Area Lot Width
Required 43,560 s.f. (1.0 acres) 140'
Lot 1 (2709 Walters Port)
Actual 117,610 s.f. (2.7 acres) ±231' @ 75'/ ±411'@ OHWL
Lot 2 (2710 Pence)Actual 75,800 s.f. (1.74 acres) ±160' @ 75'/±150' @ OHWL
Section 78-1403—Structural Building Coverage:
Total Lot Area—Lot 1 Total Structural Coverage
117,610 s.f. (2.7 acre) Allowed: 23,5422 s.f. (20%)
Proposed: 10,704 s.f. (9%)
Total Lot Area—Lot 2 Total Structural Coverage
75,800 s.f. (1.74 acre) Allowed: 15,160 s.f. (20%) •
Proposed: 3640 s.f. (4.8%)
Section 78-1680 and 78-1700—Hardcover Calculations:
Stormwater
Overlay District Total Area Allowed Existing Proposed
Hardcover Hardcover Hardcover
Tier(Tier 1)
Lot 1 117,610 s.f. 29,402.5 s.f. 22,471 s.f. 27,571 s.f.
(25%) (22.14%) (23.44%)
Lot 2 75,800 s.f. 18,950 s.f(25%) 17,741 s.f. 17,741 s.f.
(24.95%) (23.4%)
•
FILE#LA21-25
April 19,2021
• Page3of3
Analysis.
Hard Cover impact. Outlot A was reduced in size, and the resulting remnants were added to lots
1 and 2. Though additional hardcover was added to lot 1 (for the driveway), the hardcover
calculations for both lots remain conforming.
Private Road standards. The standard for a private road include a minimum amount of paved
surface width, and right of way width,for both the drive and the cul de sac:
Required Proposed
Right of Way Pavement Right of Way Pavement
Private Road 50 feet 24 feet 30 feet* 24 feet
Cul de sac 50' radius 45' radius 50' radius 45' radius
*The existing portion of Pence Lane is a remnant of an early plat, and is only 30 feet wide. The
standard width required by Ordinance cannot be met without a variance or acquisition of adjacent
private property.
Driveway Setback. Section 78-1405 requires a five foot setback for driveways. It is not
immediately clear that the five foot setback can be met for both driveways, however this can be
clarified in future drawings.A portion of the driveway may impact the wetland buffer,Watershed
district approval will be necessary.
Access to Pence. Staff has requested evidence that supports Lot l's rights to access Pence Lane,
• a private road. The have submitted a court order,which the City Attorney is reviewing.
Public Comments
To date, no public comments have been received for this sketch plan.
Issues for Consideration
1. Are there any issues or concerns with this application?
Planning Staff Recommendation
Planning Staff supports the reconfiguration of the lots, pending resolution of the Pence Lane
Right-of-Way width issue.
List of Exhibits
Exhibit A. Application
Exhibit B. Proposed layout
Exhibit C. Hard Cover worksheets
Exhibit D. Resolution 6918
•
PC Exhibit A
LA21-25
Land Use Application Summary
Application Date: 03/17/2021
Address: 2709 Walters Port Lane
Orono,MN 55331
Parcel Number: 2111723230059
Land Use Number: LA21-000025
Application Submitted By: Agent on behalf of property owner
Owner: Name: WILLIAM M& SUSAN K DUNKLEY
Address: 3405 ANNAPOLIS LA N#100
PLYMOUTH, MN 55447
Name: eric vogstrom
Applicant:
Company:
P y:
Address:
eric@vogstrom.com
Contact Information: Associated Contact: Mark Gronberg
markg@gronbergassoc.com
Associated Contact: eric vogstrom
eric@vogstrom.com •
Associated Contact:
Associated Contact:
Project Description: Subdivision
Land Use Application Type: Amendmend Application ❑
Appeal of Admin Decision ❑
Concept Application ❑
Conditional Use Permit ❑
Site Plan Application ❑
Subdivision Application ei
Subdivision Exception ❑
Vacation Application ❑
Variance Application ❑
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Applicant Signature:
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Survey(survey must accompany this form). Include all existing hardcover items that are intended to remain, as
well as all proposed hardcover items that will be added. Use as many lines as necessary to accurately depict
proposed hardcover status of the property. For Tier 1 properties, identify any features by letter which are split at
the 75' setback line and calculate hardcover square footage separately for each portion.
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•
Subdivision Application-January 2016 This is an information packet regarding Hardcover. Every effort has been made to
ensure the accuracy of the information contained herein;however,if any information is
not consistent with provisions of the City Code,the Code provisions will prevail.
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• City of Orono
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well as all proposed hardcover items that will be added. Use as many lines as necessary to accurately depict
proposed hardcover status of the property. For Tier 1 properties, identify any features by letter which are split at
the 75' setback line and calculate hardcover square footage separately for each portion.
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Subdivision Application-January 2016 This is an information packet regarding Hardcover. Every effort has been made to
ensure the accuracy of the information contained herein;however,if any information is
not consistent with provisions of the City Code,the Code provisions will prevail.
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PC Exhibit D
LA21-25
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RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL •
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A RESOLUTION
APPROVING THE PLAT OF PENCE LANE ADDITION
FILE NO. LA18-000092
WHEREAS, the City of Orono (hereinafter the 'City") is a municipal corporation
organized and existing under the laws of the State of Minnesota; and
WHEREAS, the City Council of the City of Orono (hereinafter "City Council") has
adopted subdivision and land development regulations for the orderly, economic and safe
development of land within the City; and
WHEREAS, William M. Dunkley and Susan K. Dunkley (a married couple), are the
owners of the property addressed 2709 Walters Port Lane (hereinafter the "Owners"); and
WHEREAS on October 26, 2018, the Owners applied for Final Plat approval to •
subdivide the property into two buildable lots and an outlot for the property legally described as:
Lot 1, Block 1, Carman Bay Heights; and Lot 4, Block 3. Walters-Port. Hennepin
County(hereinafter the "Property");
WHEREAS, at its regular meeting on October 8, 2018, the Orono City Council
granted approval for the Preliminary Plat per the findings and conditions of Resolution No. 6907;
and
WHEREAS, on November 19, 2018, the Final Plat application was deemed
complete; and
WHEREAS, the Owners have agreed to comply with all conditions of Resolution
No. 6907 and has completed or has agreed to complete all other requirements of the platting
regulations of the City.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, based upon the findings of Resolution
No. 6907, the Orono City Council and the City of Orono does hereby approve the plat of PENCE
LANE ADDITION, Hennepin County, Minnesota (a copy of which is attached as Exhibit A), subject
to the following conditions:
1) Development within PENCE LANE ADDITION is subject to the Conclusions, Orders and
Conditions enumerated within Preliminary Plat Resolution No 6907.
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2) Dedication on the plat of the perimeter Drainage and Utility Easements as required in
Resolution 6907.
3) Plans and Specifications. Development within PENCE LANE ADDITION is subject to the City
approved plans and specifications:
a) Final grading, stormwater, drainage and erosion control plan, dated 11/16/18.
b) Final stormwater pollution prevention plan (SWPPP), dated 11/16/18.
4) Access to Lot 1 will be via Walters Port Lane only.
5) Access to Lot 2 will be via the private driveway (Pence Lane) that connects to Kelly Avenue.
This access is shared with 2715 Pence Lane.
• 6) Vehicular access to Pence Lane from Lot 1 is expressly prohibited.
7) The common Pence Lane driveway shared by Lot 2 and 2715 Pence Lane shall be maintained
to provide an acceptable driving surface at all times.
8) A covenant to outline responsibility for all future maintenance activities related to the
stormwater facilities shall be recorded.
9) A title opinion for the Property and certified copies of all recorded easements currently
affecting the Property shall be submitted.
10)A Letter of Credit and escrow to ensure that all site improvements are installed and maintained
to the City's specifications and satisfaction, shall be submitted.
11)Payment of Development Fees. Total due: $16,550.00
a. Final plat fee: $500.00.
b. Park Dedication Fee: $5,550.
c. Stormwater and Drainage Trunk Fee: $10,500.00.
12)Financial Guarantee. The Owners shall submit a final plat review escrow in the amount of
$2,500.00 with the final plat application.
Additionally, the Owners shall provide a financial guarantee to ensure the completion of
site improvements. The City Engineer shall complete an estimate of improvement costs,
• including but not limited to storm sewers, landscaping, grading, erosion control, utilities,
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driveways and stormwater management facility construction, and the applicant shall
provide to the City a financial guarantee of 150% of the improvement costs.
13)The City Clerk shall release the plat documents for filing only upon certification by the City
Attorney, Community Development Director and City Engineer that all requirements of the
platting regulations have been satisfied.
14)The aforesaid plat shall be filed by the City of Orono with Hennepin County on or before May
26, 2019, together with a certified original copy of this resolution and executed copies of the
easements and covenants pertinent thereto.
15)No building permit shall be issued until all fees paid, and all documents recorded.
16)Violation of or non-compliance with any of the terms and conditions of this resolution may
result in the termination of any authority granted herein.
ADOPTED by the Orono City Council on this 26th day of November, 2018.
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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION
Tuesday,March 15,2021
6:00 o'clock p.m.
ROLL CALL
The Orono Planning Commission met on the above-mentioned date with the following members present:
Chair Jon Ressler, Commissioners Chris Bollis, Bob Erickson, Matt Gettman, Scott Kirchner, Dennis
Libby, and Mark McCutcheon. Representing Staff were Community Development Director Jeremy
Barnhart, City Planner Melanie Curtis, and City Planner Laura Oakden. City Council representative Matt
Johnson was also present.
Chair Ressler called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m., followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Libby moved,Bollis seconded,to approve the Agenda. VOTE: Ayes 7,Nays 0.
APPROVAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 16,2021
Kirchner moved,McCutcheon seconded,to approve the minutes of the Orono Planning Commission
meeting of January 19,2021 as submitted.VOTE:Ayes 7,Nays 0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. LA21-000016 SCHIMMEL CONSTRUCTION, 1405 REST POINT RD, VARIANCES (STAFF:
MELANIE CURTIS)
David&Kathryn Wiemer,Applicants,were present.
Staff presented a summary packet of information. Curtis stated the Applicant proposes to build a 125 square
foot addition on the south side of the home and an approximate 500 square foot deck on the lakeside. The
addition is shown on screen in red and the deck is shown in yellow on the survey. The property is non-
conforming with respect to area,width,hard cover,and setbacks. The entire home is located within the 75-
foot setback from the lake. The proposed addition is shown to encroach within the 30-foot rear street
setback and the 75-foot lake setback. The deck is shown within the 75 foot and average lakeshore setbacks.
Existing hardcover on the level today is 22.7%with almost all of the hardcover within the 75-foot setback.
The 75-foot setback is the line that starts here [noted on screen] and goes diagonally through the driveway.
The Applicant is proposing an increase of approximately 604 square feet for 27.2% total site hardcover.
Hardcover, lake setback, average lakeshore setback (ALS), and rear street setback variances would be
required. Curtis noted the lake and rear street setbacks overlap eliminating the buildable area, creating a
practical difficulty for development of the lot. The existing home has an approximate 2,000 square foot
footprint which does result in reasonable use of the property. The 500 square foot deck and 125 square foot
addition are relatively minimal, however, result in additional encroachments in both the rear and lake
setback areas and add to the non-conforming hardcover on the property. The neighboring home to the north
is located approximately 30 feet from the lake, determining the ALS which is not shown on the survey but
she can provide an aerial photo. The Applicant's proposal results in additional encroachments with the
deck proposed at 23 feet and the addition to the home as close as 45 feet to the lake. Staff has received no
public comments on the application. The practical difficulty analysis was provided in the Staff report;
regarding practical difficulty, Staff finds that there are no practical difficulties supporting the current
variances to further encroach within the required setbacks to increase the total site hardcover above 25%or
to place a deck within the ALS. In summary, Planning Staff recommends denial of the variances as
proposed.
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David & Kathryn Wiemer, Applicants, moved into this house in November 2019 after 35 years in
Minnetonka. They looked at over 35 properties and this was"the one." They have loved living on the lake
and have had a little over a year to understand how they live and use both the indoor and outdoor spaces.
The goal with the variances is twofold; they would like to convert what is now a small office space into a
four-season porch with a door to a patio or a deck. There are also tables,chairs, and a fire ring outside that
are regularly used and in the warmer months, the legs sink in to the grass. They are outside a lot to enjoy
the lake and the views and look forward to working with the City to respect the interests of the various
setback requirements while trying to achieve the goals and dreams of using and enjoying the property.Ms.
Wiemer is available to answer any questions.
Mr.Wiemer noted a photo with a room in the foreground that is the current office they would like to expand
to the south;they can also see some chairs and a grill to wrap a deck or patio around on that side of it.
Bollis asked if there is currently any deck or patio out there.
Ms. Wiemer said there is nothing, they just have wood chips. They bought the house from the original
owners who built the house in 2000 and there is overlap between the two setbacks, so they know there is
already a challenge here. The Applicant noted they would like to use more of the outside space because
there really is nothing right now.
Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 6:07 p.m.
Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 6:07 p.m.
Ressler noted it is always difficult when there is lakeshore involved in setbacks.
Erickson asked who prepared the 3D color graphic.
Ms. Oakden said it was the Applicant's contractor.
Erickson noted those were very well done.
McCutcheon thinks the big thing is the allowed hardcover, it is 25% and the existing is 22%. With the
house being built behind the lakeshore setback, he will throw that one out the window because that just
makes sense. Then it is a skinny lot so the 30-foot setback from the road seems kind of ridiculous,too. He
noted it is a unique situation and that is why they are here. He clarified the hardcover is where he draws
the line—they can do things but within the hardcover limits is his initial thought.
Bollis tends to agree with McCutcheon as the hardcover is so close at 27.2% for what they are asking for
and he feels it could be modified to meet at least the hardcover. He agrees with the setbacks—he thinks
they need to throw those out on this one and if they could meet the hardcover it would be a yes for him.
Kirchner agrees with the comments that have been said. It is a unique lot and he agrees the hardcover does
not seem to be implicated by the shape of the lot,rather the addition and amount of the addition.
Ressler said there seems to be support for hardcover and not support for additional structure.
Bollis clarified no support for above the 25%hardcover but the setback requests seem to be fine.
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Gettman thinks they are all in agreement that the 25% is really the stickler,but he would prefer to have the
reduction of the overage above the 25%come back away from the lake so it is not contradicting everything
the Planning Commission has said on everything else. He noted the red area could potentially go away and
the yellow area reduced to get under the 25%; he is not trying to redesign but it is back to a preference.
Ressler noted that is the difficulty, they try not to change what is there but it is nice to have additional
feedback if it goes further to Council. He noted they could make a friendly amendment or make a motion
one way or the other with the feedback they have provided.
Gettman moved, Kirchner seconded, to deny the application as it exists with the comments the
Planning Commission has made.
Curtis asked for a point of clarification, noting Gettman mentioned removal of the building addition, the
red area. Is the Planning Commission specifying in their recommendation that the hardcover be reduced in
a specific way or just pull the hardcover further from the lake and keep in the 25% limitation.
Gettman suggested that no comments be added to the denial because the City Council can hear the
comments. It is an outright denial of the application as it exists.
Curtis is looking for clarification on the discussion point.
Gettman replied yes, if the Applicant can pull it back from the lake, it is not necessarily removal of the
entire red area.
Libby agrees with Gettman.
Ressler thinks Staff has already made those comments and he tends to follow the Staff recommendation.
This is always one of the tougher ones to find a solution around. He does not have anything that would
disagree with the comments already made.
VOTE: Ayes 7,Nays 0.
2. LA21-000017 JOE THULL,480 BIG ISLAND,DOCK PERMIT ON ROW (STAFF: MELANIE
CURTIS)
Joe and Sara Thull,Applicants, were present.
Staff presented a summary packet of information. The Applicants own 480 Big Island which is a non-
lakeshore property on the eastern portion of the island. They have owned the property for a number of
years and it is located between two platted, undeveloped rights-of-way which connect to the Bay Place
right-of-way and connects to the lake on the eastern side of the island. There are many interconnecting
undeveloped rights-of-way which are accessible to the public but no developed roads on Big Island and
non are open for vehicular traffic. Code section 78-567 provides a mechanism for inland or off-lake
property owners to request a permit to install or construct private improvements, such as a dock, on public
rights-of-way. A dock would provide access to the Applicant's property and this provision only exists
within the RS district which consists of Big Island and Deering Island. Pursuant to this code the Applicants
seek a permit to place a seasonal dock on City right-of-way. Two dock permits have been issued in the past
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20+years. Resolution 4456 attributed to 220 and 130 Big Island granted in 2000. Resolution 2038,referred
in the Staff report as Permit 2038,attributed to 230 Big Island granted in 1986. 230 Big Island is an inland
lot and that permit was for a dock that existed on the property on that location in the right-of-way since
approximately the 1950's. It was granted subject to a number of conditions including the following
verbiage:"should there be any other requests from inland property owners to use this site for the installation
of a dock to their properties, this permit is automatically revoked."Permit 2038 appears to have remained
in effect since that time, and has been transferred to the subsequent owners(Fred Brunjten/Nancy Farnes).
Ms. Fames has provided comment on this request,which was emailed to the Commissioners and placed at
their seats, in addition to other comments received after publication of the packet. Staff finds the
Applicants'request generally meets the criteria outlined in the code for approval. Knowing the subdivision
code has recently been changed to allow for easement access as another option for inland lots in the RS
district only, the Applicants have attempted unsuccessfully to secure a private easement from neighbors
including Three Rivers Park District as detailed in the submittal. They made the permit request in February.
As a result of the request and based on the language in the resolution for Permit 2038, it should be
considered to be revoked. Staff has concerns that the holder of this permit continues to desire dock access.
There are two additional interior lots on the east side of the island, both just to the east of the Applicant's
property—they do not have lake access and may in the future request a permit for dock on the right-of-way
as well. The City should anticipate requests from these property owners at some point.The other remaining
properties on the east side are either lakeshore properties or in common ownership with a lakeshore
property,thus providing the opportunity for a dock. Staff recommends the dock access question for inland
lots be looked at comprehensively by the City. A number of public comments were received and included
in the packet as Exhibit I; most of the comments received oppose the dock. Staff recommends approval of
a dock with the following conditions:
1. The location of the installed dock shall be approved by the LMCD, and shall be approved by
the Public Works Director.
2. The permit issued shall be valid for one year, and shall be subject to change, alteration or
revocation for cause by the council at any time, and shall be automatically renewable on the
anniversary of the date of issuance except upon written notice from the city to the permittee at
least 30 days prior to the anniversary date.
3. The approval should identify which property(ies) has rights to use the dock, and each owner
shall be permitted one boat slip for use by the owner of the property exclusively.
4. The dock shall be removed for the winter season. A winter storage location should be
identified and approved by staff.
5. Dock sections shall not exceed 6-feet in width.
6. No canopy shall be erected
Curtis noted most of those comments are from the code section that allows the permit. Staff further
recommends that a comprehensive solution to the dock access question be considered. After the packet
was finalized last week, Staff received an updated request and narrative from the Applicant in which he
addresses some of the comments he received. His updated request includes an alternative to share a dock
with the current permit holder for 2038. The Applicant can speak to his request.
Kirchner said in reference to Permit 2038,he asked Curtis to note where that dock is situated on screen.
Curtis pointed it out and said at the subject location.
Ressler noted the way the City's existing permit that is currently granted becomes revoked in the event that
another request is made.
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Curtis replied upon request from another property owner it is automatically revoked.
Ressler asked if Staff understands why they would have such language in that approval. Is it because they
are trying to be sure they revisit the whole situation all over again rather than an addition of another permit.
He asked what it is that they typically see in those situations for such language?
Ressler understands he may be asking Curtis to speculate.
Curtis noted she cannot speculate.Curtis said they do not typically see that kind of language.The language
in the 2000 permit—although it mirrored some similar code-required conditions—did not include this. So,
a permit that was issued after resolution 2038 did not include that automatic revocation language. Curtis
could speculate a lot of things but she would rather not.
Ressler stated it is a landlocked lot so the only access right now is by right-of-way and trails?
Curtis replied that is correct. They are pedestrian access but there is no dock access. She thinks the
Applicant can better describe the situation but she thinks they have been anchoring and swimming to shore
as they have used the property over the years.
Ressler commented he knows there is a lot of interest based on the feedback the Commission has seen and
there are a lot of voices that want to be heard. He said in the essence of time they want those voices to be
heard, but at the same time the Commission requests in the public comment section that people try to limit
their comments to 5 minutes or less if they can. If one is in agreement with a previously stated comment,
he asked if they could just state that they support the previous comment instead of restating the comment
in different words. He noted they appreciate any consideration on that.
Joe and Sara Thull, 480 Big Island, showed a few slides on screen to give more context. Ressler is right
there has been a lot of feedback and comments regarding his application and he hopes to add a little more
color to that. He noted he has owned the property for over 12 years and the intention was always to build
a cabin out there. They have approached the City and have a permitted shed and have started construction
on that off-site in a modular way and will move that out to the location. Mr. Thull reiterated the intention
is to eventually put a cabin out there. As mentioned,they have primarily accessed the location by anchoring
near the lot, swimming,and then hiking across the Three Rivers location that abuts the property. Mr.Thull
noted they have been members of the Power Squadron in the past but that is probably 8x the distance and
really not feasible. He said they have aging parents and kids and they want to find a more permanent way
to access the property as they invest in it. They are not developers or property flippers, and have sought
multiplied easements, one with Three Rivers, noting that roadway comes just short of the lakeshore and
unfortunately Three Rivers denied that. The Applicant has also pursued easements with neighboring
properties and has not found a path forward on that. He looks at the property rights and does not think they
are asking for what other interior lot property owners have been provided underneath the code. They are
seeking,basically,those same rights afforded to others and there is some precedent in terms of the spirit of
multiple lot owners collaborating and sharing an access point to create a feasible solution for those interior
lot owners. He showed a few sites they identified in working with the City—some are better than others—
and they identified the site they felt was most feasible. Some criteria was feedback from the City Planning
office regarding location 1,also the site in terms of its level terrain and the low impact in terms of the right-
of-way, really the walking path, proximity to the property and that the Applicant is not looking to use the
site as a construction access point as that will all be done through the primary access point on the other side
of the island. He noted they are really looking at minimal lakeshore disruption and that was the criteria
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they looked at. Two additional requests if this would be approved. No 1) if a new permit is granted that
the previous permit be noted in that document to show the continuity of this site being used as an access
point for many, many years, and he thinks officially a lot longer than that. He asks that it be noted as he
thinks there are questions as far as the Lake Minnetonka Conservation District(LMCD)as far as the access
and the rights-of-way. No 2) he asked for a reasonable spot to put a seasonal dock in the winter months
within and around the right-of-way. He thinks there is probably a similar thing granted for the other
property owners that are not hauling their docks. In looking across the various easements,there are various
uses of those to store things currently across Big Island. Mr. Thull noted there was a lot of feedback and
addressed a couple of points within his application. Regarding the impact to Ms. Fames and Mr. Brunjten
as owners of 230 Big Island,Mr.Thull supports that they should not have something taken away,and thinks
that language created a win/lose scenario and that is not fair. As a property owner,he believes their rights
need to be withheld within that. Although sharing a dock is not a perfect scenario in a perfect world,this
is a unique situation and they are trying to balance each other's rights. Mr.Thull noted there was a question
of the use of turning the right-of-way into construction and taking out trees and vegetation. He clarified he
has no intent to do that and that would be less convenient. They are looking for a walkway path from the
dock up to the inner road that leads to the property through the right-of-way. He stated there have also been
some questions about the LMCD and compliance. Does the site comply,should it be grandfathered in? He
thinks that is a question for that group. In looking through the code,there are many points within the code
itself that lay out different ways that unique situations are addressed. Whether it is pre-existing conditions
for permitted use, practical difficulties, a unique situation, setback variances provided. He thinks one of
the main points of that is so that docks are not stacked up on top of each other. At this access point,looking
to the left, he showed a photo on screen of the neighboring location; in another photo he showed the
neighbor's dock and location. Mr. Thull said the use of variances are obviously sprinkled throughout the
LMCD documentation so if this property is not grandfathered in, he thinks given the unique situation he
would imagine 99% of the issues they deal with are ultimately how one accesses the lake versus this
situation which is how one accesses their property. Substantially different in terms of how they are trying
to use this going forward. He said it would seem reasonable as it states, reasonable in terms of under the
circumstances and in keeping with the spirit and intent of the code. In conclusion, Mr. Thull thinks his
application fits the code,there is already a permitted dock there for a single dock so no material change in
terms of should a dock or can a dock be placed there. He is in favor of sharing the dock and also believes
the site may qualify as either grandfathered in or a variance as part of that. Mr. Thull noted they have had
a long-term dream of building a cabin out there and are now in the position to actually move forward with
that. Mr.Thull has one question in regards to the information about the Public Works Director and what it
entails getting approval from them.
Curtis believes the Public Works Director,being that it is a City right-of-way,would want to have approval
of the dock location should it change,or in addition to the dock that is there,and where that storage location
would be in the winter.
Bollis thinks the Applicant has done a good job of answering the neighborhood questions and asked if they
would be interested in adding those as additional conditions to the permit if the Commission gets that far.
Such as no modification to the platted rights-of-way, Bollis assumes the Applicant is not using this dock
for recreation but just for access,that type of conditions.
Mr. Thull said sure.
Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 6:33 p.m.
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Jud and Aleya Champlin, 210 Big Island (next door), live at 2643 Thoroughbred Lane. He thanked the
Staff and Commissioners for doing all this and noted he is kind of surprised that his neighbors Freddy and
Nancy are not here, but Freddy has had some health problems the past couple of years and Mr. Champlin
guesses the snow storm kept them away. As Curtis will attest,there are very deep feelings going back from
them and their belief as to how that dock should be allocated. Mr. Champlin said this is a tough thing
because by filing this it automatically takes away Freddy's dock access. He noted it is a very kind thing of
Mr. Thull to offer some alternatives and at the same time it gives this quite valuable piece of property to
Mr. Thull—Mr. Champlin can certainly understand the predicament. In his reading of the City code, one
of the requirements for granting this access is that there are no reasonable alternatives. Mr.Champlin thinks
there are reasonable alternatives and they have not really explored them all. Other than being asked for an
easement,this is the first he has heard about it and he thinks if they went around the island,usually people
team up and help each other and it is generally a pretty good community. It is when this sort of thing starts
happening is when some heads get butting. One thing Mr. Thull said is that the primary access point is
down next to 460 Big Island and in an email to Mr.Champlin,Mr.Thull also said that is the most convenient
access way. One does not have to put a dock there to get access;the requirement of the City's code is not
that one access a dock, it is that one has reasonable alternative access. It is very easy to nose a pontoon
boat in there, even at the end of the Power Squadron property that is very close. There are other dock
locations that could be looked at as well. Having trouble putting in a septic system,a shower,and running
water might be good reason to renew the membership to the Minnetonka Power Squadron and as a past
commander he can say that would be very good. Mr.Champlin thinks if the Commission went around and
asked neighbors,they would find a lot of people helping out. There is a reason that Freddy does not have
a dock there: he does not want that in front of his house. This pretty much shows there are reasonable
alternative ways to access property on the island. Freddy does not have a dock. He asks his neighbors to
dock there,and can use Mr.Champlin's dock any time,he pulls his pontoon boat right up in front and walks
right through. Mr.Champlin's other concern is the pathway through the woods—right now it is all wooded
—there has not been a survey done recently so he is not quite sure where the boundaries are but he thinks it
will either be going over Mr. Champlin's property or Freddy's property or through the woods. If they are
familiar with the island it is a big effort to increase ground cover and leave things as natural as possible and
Mr. Champlin would hate to see those woods come down. He understands the intent is not to do anything
bad there but intent is very hard to put into a permit. Once people start walking up there,who knows what
will happen? As another alternative, Mr. Thull is welcome to use Mr. Champlin's dock up to 10 days a
year,just shoot him a text and let him know,don't bump the boat into it too hard,but he welcomes that and
is pretty sure he would find a lot of other people that would support Mr.Thull as well. They like people on
the island and like them doing good things on the island. He appreciates all they have done for Big Island.
Aleya Champlin agrees with her husband's comments and asked to go to Exhibit Ito show the pictures that
were taken on Big Island on March 6. This is what the shoreline currently looks like and they think there
is a property marker with a stake in the ground for 260 Big Island. The rectangle is where the Champlin's
think the proposed dock is going to go and there are a lot of trees and native growth there that would have
to go and she just does not want to see all those trees gone.
Dave Saari,21035 Oak Lane,Greenwood,along with his brother,owns the property at 260 Big Island. The
family has been cutting the grass on the City's public property for probably the last 50 years and their
grandparents built the cabin that Fred Brunjten now owns. He noted they have been on that property for a
while and appreciate the fact that it has not been developed and it is a fine piece of property. The
Commissioners heard from the neighbors their enthusiasm for that. He suspects there will be a larger
conversation about the use of those access points regarding the interior lots. In his notes to the City (he
apologizes for them arriving late) there are east and there are west bay alternatives and he thinks it is a
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bigger story than simply accessing the lake via one particular location. To that end, there are a couple of
access points on the west bay, four on the east bay and asked how is this all going to look? They certainly
do not want to have a marina next to their property and if that becomes the access point for all inland
properties on the island,that would be a significant concern. He thinks what would be fair is west going to
the west and east going to the east. From a larger standpoint they then discuss the strategy of all the inland
owners as opposed to simply one.
Suzy and Peter Thiss, 270 Big Island, have thoughts of one land owner, one boat, one slip. She does not
understand the wording that Fred and Nancy's dock permit can be revoked;does that mean Fred and Nancy
can revoke it from the Thull family next year?
Ressler noted that is one of his questions, as well. Again, they have to speculate because it was several
years ago that it was issued, but he ventures a guess that the reason it is worded that way is because they
want the opportunity to revisit that permit at the same time of issuing another one; and that is the trigger
for the event. If there is another application for a dock,they want to be able to change the approval or the
use of that—that is the only speculation he might have. It will probably come up in the discussion among
the Commissioners. Ressler does not think it is a black and white situation where now there has been an
application, one loses their rights to a dock. He thinks it becomes more of a situation where it is revisited
because of the trigger.
Ms. Thiss noted it is a very passive, quiet place with deer, foxes, and all kinds of things in that meadow.
She noted everyone enjoys it, and so does nature. The whole idea of making it a multiple dock or dock
sharing,Ms.Thiss does not think it is a marina and thinks that the Power Squadron is a super viable option
for someone who needs to get to their place,use a bathroom,take a shower, as all those facilities are there.
She stated the whole idea that someone can put up a cabin and not cut down trees and make more paths...this
past year there were ATVs going around the island with chain saws at night and there were people cutting
paths and running the camouflaged 4-wheelers like crazy. She noted that is the kind of stuff she would hate
to see because there is so little land in the City, it is important to preserve Big Island and to look 10-15
years down the road and keep it that way.
Ted Hanna, 490 Big Island, said his parents have owned the property since 1968 and he got it about 10
years ago. He would be a little concerned about having some access in the future. He lived over in
Greenwood until about a year ago so it was mostly just winter ski access for him with a tent platform and
a teepee. He noted it would be great to get out there and visit some more—they do not have a family cabin
which used to be on the south side of all this for years. He would ask that some kind of solution might be
figured out for some kind of dock access. He noted one comment mentioned a piece of land where Three
Rivers is—he asked if that would ever be up for imminent domain.
Curtis clarified the piece of land that is blocking the right-of-way continuation used to be all one little sliver.
Mr. Hanna sees that those pieces are now deeded to the adjacent landowners.
Curtis replied that is right and this one is owned by Three Rivers and they have declined—she believes one
of those reasons is the funding source that they used to purchase the property prohibits granting an easement
or selling it for any of those uses.
Mr. Hanna asked the Thulls if they have thought about using something down on that side. He noted he
may be in front of the Commission in the future to try to figure something out, as well.
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Nancy Farnes,230 Big Island,approached the podium with an eleventh-hour package she is delivering,but
she only brought five and can get more for the following day. She noted her property is directly affected
by this application. In the exhibits,she showed that it started off with 7 inside lots back in 1980-something.
This application is revoked and given to 484 Meadow because he transferred over about 4-5 different private
properties. It also adds five additional inside lots to the three that he says are remaining. So now they are
kind of over—going backwards—in 35 years,using this as a solution. Ms.Fames feels that history dictates
there is just not lakeside for accommodation to 3 or 7 inside lots. Furthermore,they bought the cabin with
the value included at$45,000. If this is taken from them and revoked,that value in 35 years of maintenance,
taxes, appreciation,just tanked to possibly $20,000 with a property they cannot use. She noted they have
spent substantial time improving it, maintaining it, and in the last ten years they have endured several
emergency and physical health crises that have deferred them from enjoying the island as they always have
with three generations of family. During that time period, which they are still winding down, their kind
neighbors have allowed them to use their dock, have helped maintain the area, and in goodwill have even
cut the grass and maintained the permit without Ms. Fames even asking. They have even offered to bring
the family out there as time has only allowed for them to go out about twice a year, and that is basically to
rake leaves, clean up inside and out, and go home. This is while everyone else is out in June and July on
the boat, in swimsuits,enjoying life. She sees an end to this in about a year or two and she finds this is the
first time in 35 years anybody has tossed out the words"revoke our permit"and it is very,very disturbing,
unsettling, and emotional. Ms. Farms does not find any precedence to do that. Perhaps they revisit the
wording on the two existing permits so they do not have to go through this grueling, tumultuous, and
emotional process, because there just simply aren't enough and everything has been exhausted, in her
opinion, by the City. She will happily work with Ms. Curtis and has boxes of records she can help assist
with for clarity to the recommendation of this Board, if necessary and required, if they still feel it warrants
a recommendation instead of a permanent solution. Ms.Fames has one final thought: it is assessed at$165
[$165,000] with no lakeshore but the permit. The 480 application bought his property just ten years ago,
there was precedence, and it was valued at $9,000. Ms. Fames stated it makes it unsellable, and their
investment in real estate,and their retirement,is now gone over one dock permit that was properly secured
through the proper channels that had a boat since 1942 with that cabin. Initially it was a handshake on the
family to the owners.When Ms.Fames' family bought it,it converted to this permit. The only permit they
created for this unique property and unique situation.
Ressler thinks it will be difficult to read through the handout on the fly.
Curtis believes the materials Ms. Fames has provided were emailed to the Commissioners this afternoon.
Ms. Fames said [off microphone] there are photos.
Ressler clarified for those watching online, the comments were that the handout included some photos
reiterating the difficulty of being inclusive of adding more dockage.
Chris Bollis,470 Big Island, is just adjacent to the Applicant's property. He only wants to comment about
access on the west side of the island. There is a road right-of-way that comes in—he does not know if it
has a name—it is just by 460 Big Island.
Curtis pointed it out on screen.
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Mr. Bollis said that is probably the only vehicle access on Big Island where one can drive from the ice or
from a barge right up on there. He noted they have used that for septic pumping,well drilling,and in 2005
(he thinks)there was a big fire on the south end of the island and they hauled in fire departments,pumps,
food, bobcats, and it was a big problem. He wants to say that the access by 460 Big Island should not be
considered as a dockage area because it is the only spot one can get on the island with any size of a vehicle
to do the service work that is required.
Ted Hanna, 480 Big Island, said that however many years ago this thing was platted out—the spirit of the
whole plat to allow people access to their interior lots—he thinks that is something that should be considered
for future use, as well. As Ms. Fames said,they combined a bunch of lots so it cut it down but there could
have been a bunch more people there asking for it. He thinks that was the spirit of the whole thing,to have
roads and not just for fire access.
Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 6:59 p.m.
Ressler noted this is a tough one.
Kirchner said first and foremost from what they have heard at the public hearing, he does not believe that
there is ill-intent upon the Applicant to revoke the existing permit 2038. He does not believe that was the
intent but is just an unfortunate wording. Regarding the permit, he noted Staff, City Council, and City
Attorney could have further discussion on this - he does see at the bottom it states that the City of Orono
further reserves the right to review this permit for any reason as deemed appropriate. Kirchner would say
this would qualify as a reason to review it rather than to automatically revoke it. Therefore,that may give
some leeway and some time. He agrees with Ressler's remarks that this is not a black and white,just
because there has been an application there should be a revocation of this permit. With that said, he
appreciates the Applicant's due diligence in exploring options, speaking with City Staff, evaluating those
options,asking for easements,and speaking with the Three Rivers Park District. Where Kirchner struggles
with this application is that he feels this could potentially create a bit of a ripple effect, in that if the City
will allow this for one lot,will it produce other similar applications. In that case,he believes that perhaps
there needs to be a larger scale approach to this, to find a solution if a dock is deemed appropriate, rather
than try to band-aid this several times over the next many years. That is Kirchner's biggest hang-up, and
he is concerned that by allowing one parcel this, it merely kicks the can down the road. He thinks there
needs to be a larger evaluation of this to find any potential solutions and work at it on a larger scale.
Libby said there was quite a bit of material given to the Commission fairly late in the game so it took him
a while to actually read through some of this and it was very interesting. As they were listening to the cases
of the property owners, there seems to be a reason for him to ask Staff a question. He noted there was a
submission by Aleya Champlin, 210 Big Island, which is very detailed. Having had many, many years
working with LMCD and MCWD (Minnehaha Creek Watershed District), he is quite familiar with their
authority and functionality. He does not know how to ask this any other way than to ask Staff if they have
known that whether one of the MCWD functional assessments of wetlands has actually been performed on
this public access they are talking about.
Curtis brought up Hennepin County's wetland map.
Libby stated the information provided to the Planning Commission is quite well-delineated and is very
specific in the categorical classification. He said he is bringing this up as a point of information. He has
about 30 years of living on the lakeshore and having the blessing of having a dock and owning lakeshore,
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so he is familiar with properties that have riparian rights where they actually have lakeshore and a lot and
are allowed to put it up. He noted the circumstances of these permits are quite unique, pretty much in
Orono, Mound, and surrounding municipalities there are common areas and permits that can be lotteried
and assigned. However,when there is a landlocked property without any access to the lake,he can see why
this is a very sought-after commodity and why it is a point of discussion. He thinks when they see in the
City of Orono —particularly within the auspices of the LMCD — one cannot really even have a dock on
property that is owned even if they have riparian rights, unless there is a structure there. Libby said this is
a different situation because they have landlocked properties that do not have access. If in fact MCWD has
delineated this area and has conservation and wetland attributes, he wonders if it could have been an
oversight by the City over these many years that people are talking about. He feels it would be prudent
before a decision is made by this body to find out whether or not this type of a survey has actually been
done by the MCWD because it could actually be appropriate from a conservation standpoint.
Curtis does not believe the area identified on the map indicates a wetland. She believes it indicates what
the commenter has written here,that it is noted as a MCWD conservation area but not a wetland.
Libby said it is a conservation area but does not need to be a wetland to be a conservation area.
Curtis noted they do not have any specific protective requirements over that and if there are other regulatory
bodies that have input on this application, they will not purport to assume what they will decide. She
clarified they have to talk about the City issues. If this issue moves forward,she thinks the Applicant would
need to inquire with the Watershed District and the LMCD what regulations and rules they need to follow.
The location they are talking about has had a dock so that is what the Applicant is asking for as well.
Libby said that answered his question. The idea was that they do not want to overlook anything, many
circumstances when talking about variances or applications they have other authority that they have to wait
on. If this is something that had perhaps been overlooked,the initiative that the property owner took to put
this together and bring it to the Commissioners attention was of great value.
Ressler asked to clarify that the existing permit in place and others alike all share something in common
which is they are either lakeshore property themselves or common ownership in lakeshore property.
Curtis asked Ressler to restate the question.
Ressler asked if the existing dock permits have been issued.
Curtis replied they are for inland lots.
Ressler said for all of those that have been issued.
Curtis clarified they are for inland lots and they have two permits.
Ressler restated a different way:regarding both inland lot dock permits,do they both share these two things
in common. They are either owners of lakeshore property as well or have a common ownership.
Curtis replied no. Any of the other inland owners that they have not identified in addition to the Applicants
and the two adjacent are the only ones that are not connected to a lakeshore lot, in ownership or actual
lakeshore.
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Bollis stated the Commission has to look at what is in front of them and the code allows provision for inland
lots to apply for a dock as long as it does not affect the neighboring properties. The first thing this does is
affect the neighbor at 230 Big Island because it revokes their dock permit. He thinks any solution they
come up with should really consider 230 Big Island and make sure it is an equitable solution for both. He
does not know that they can find a comprehensive solution tonight for all of the inland lots,he thinks they
have to look at the permit requests the Commission has in front of them and design the permit so that it is
similar to what they did with the original one 2038 and have some language in there that if additional people
apply,then that permit gets revisited and looked at again. He knows as a permit holder it is not fun,but it
seems like it could be an easy solution right now and the Applicant is being neighborly about this and
agreeing to additional conditions on the permit to appease the neighbors. He noted there are endless
conditions they could put on it so the neighbors feel comfortable he will use the dock for the purpose he
wants to use it for. McCutcheon said he did not hear from Ms.Fames about what she thought of the shared
dock solution.
Ms.Fames said the information delivered to her was late on Friday and she has spent 24 hours a day trying
to pull something together. She said absolutely not. In the packet she delivered,it is not even feasible and
the space does not even allow for two boats with one dock and/or two docks.
Bollis stated it appears that it would require a variance from LMCD for that dock.
Ms. Fames noted all the traffic,the drainage area that has been tampered with, it is full trees there on both
sides which she showed pictures in her packet. There will have to be surveys, trees cut down, damage to
the island, and it just seems a bit much when there are still so many other empty lots. For 35 years there
has been the same amount of empty,vacant lots. Perhaps a lottery when somebody turns it in to amend the
language.
Bollis clarified Ms. Fames' short answer is no, she does not like it.
Ressler is not entirely in disagreement and thinks what the Commission has ahead of them is addressing
how the City would like to grant access to all of these inland lots. It is not going to stop here and he thinks
there are other considerations here. If they take out the water and were looking at this as if it were a road
accessed lot, it would also be difficult to figure out how to provide access because there is no road there.
Ressler thinks it is prudent for the City to decide how they want to handle all of these inland lots. One of
the public comments was about a fire—the more structure they have out there besides the fact that it would
take away trees which the City is generally opposed to—they are also creating a fire hazard with the more
habitation and structure there is,the less ability there is to extinguish that structure and the greater risk of
losing that structure as well as the rest of the island. These are his concerns as they talk about developing
these inland lots which are generally not even accessible and that is probably one of the reasons why the
price tag is what it is. He said of course the property owned by Three Rivers would be a great alternative
to provide some dockage for inland docks and he understands that Three Rivers is not in support of
providing an easement for that. He does not know if that resonates something on its own. Ressler said
before they make it easier to access these inland lots,they need to address the additional use and access of
the inland lots. He does not know that they will be able to decipher that tonight. Once they get through
that,then they have to talk about lot sizes and what the building envelope is. Being able to provide private
sewer and septic or well becomes a concern,they have minimum setback requirements, reasonable access
requirements, and there is a lot to unpack. He personally feels this is an issue they need to figure out but
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he is not sure they can figure it all out today. He noted they rarely do this but he would almost rather table
this so they can have a City work session.
Curtis noted that is an option. There has been a lot of feedback and public comment tonight and she still
believes the City Council is the decision maker and should be holding that conversation between themselves
and the issue. She said if the Commission is going to table it, she thinks they need to have a good reason
to table it, and a direction to go. Otherwise, Curtis thinks they can provide their feedback and comments
and move it forward to the Council for their analysis.
Gettman moved,Libby seconded,to deny the application as is.
Gettman moved so as to move it along and have the City Council then send it back to the Commission or
have a workshop.
Barnhart thinks it would be appropriate that the Commission recommend that the Council direct Staff to
examine a more comprehensive solution that could be reviewed.
Gettman amended his motion.
Gettman moved, Libby seconded, to deny the application as is, including Barnhart's additional
comments and the feedback that has been provided.
Erickson is in favor of tabling. The subject matter demands a comprehensive approach and he can think of
more things to avoid than to positively strive for at this particular moment. It is a conflict subject,and they
have many property owners here,each with their own view. One thing the Commission needs to remember
is at the top of the pyramid of priorities for land use is the Comprehensive Plan; in looking at the Plan and
many portions of the ordinances as well, the phrase "preservation of property value" comes up over and
over and over again. It is a very basic part of the code. Part of that overall, they want to make sure they
are not doing or suggesting anything that would detract from someone's value, so the Commission needs
to preserve whatever they can. Also, there is often a chance for improvement where property values can
be improved. He said they need to be very careful how they do that, keeping in mind that there are some
changes and many people are resistant to any change. However,the City is involved in some very positive
changes on the east end of Big Island in improving trails,access for the handicapped,and so on. From what
Erickson is hearing about these trails, one has to be pretty athletic in order to get there and as one is there
they may not even know if they are on the frail or on someone else's property. If some modest
improvements were made to mark the trails and some minor grading done to make it more walkable,that
would be an improvement to him but perhaps not to everyone. He thinks tabling is important.
Ressler noted that was his perspective as well,this one is a little more complex and has a lot more moving
parts and he is generally opposed to tabling as well. If they table, that gets them back together as a
Commission before going to the City Council. Because there is a motion to deny on the table,if that passes,
it would go straight to the City Council. If the Commissioners are comfortable with that,they should vote
as such and if they are not,they would need to table it.
McCutcheon thinks City Council wants to know as that is the Planning Commission's job. He thinks they
are all on the same page in needing to look at this holistically and where they want to go. He does not know
the entire history of the island and at first glance there is a property owner who needs access to their lot,he
understands that people do not want new docks in front of their lots, some of these lots are very small, and
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what can one really do with them. There is a history of all the different access points, and it needs to be
looked at holistically to find a long-term vision of where this will be 20-30 years from now so residents do
not need to keep going through the emotional—they saw what happened today—there is a lot to unpack
here,the Commission should tread lightly and be cautious,and get all the data. McCutcheon would support
denying it just to get it in front of the Council and go from there.
Ressler asked Staff if the Council decides they want the Planning Commission to weigh in further on the
issue, do they have the right or ability to do so.
Curtis replied yes.
VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 1 (Ressler),Abstain 1 (Bollis).
3. LA21-000018 GLENN SOLIE, 3500 BAYSIDE RD, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (STAFF:
MELANIE CURTIS)
Nancy Solie,Applicant,was present.
Staff presented a summary packet of information. The Applicant is requesting a Conditional Use Permit
(CUP) for a bathroom including a shower in an accessory building to be constructed. Staff recommends
approval pursuant to the standard conditions for CUPs for plumbing.
Nancy Solie, 3500 Bayside Road, noted her husband Glenn had to catch a flight and the Commission may
know more about it than she does.
Ressler noted it is pretty straightforward,they have seen it before.
Ms. Solie noted they are not planning on renting it out, it is just in the backyard.
Curtis clarified it is a gym with a bathroom.
Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 7:25 p.m.
Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 7:25 p.m.
Bollis moved,Kirchner seconded,to approve LA21-000018,3500 Bayside Rd,Conditional Use Permit
as applied based on Staff recommendations. VOTE: Ayes 7,Nays 0.
4. LA21-000019 TODD ZIESMER, 3440 BAYSIDE RD, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (STAFF:
LAURA OAKDEN)
Todd Ziesmer,Applicant,was present.
Staff presented a summary packet of information. The Applicant is requesting a Conditional Use Permit
(CUP)to allow honey bees on their property. Planning Department Staff is recommending approval. The
definition for farm animals includes honey bees and farm animals require a CUP in the LR1A district
meeting City code standards and those conditions are lot size and setbacks. The Applicant is proposing to
have 2-4 hives with a maximum of 6. City code is silent on number of hives allowed. The Applicant has
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been coordinating with the University of Minnesota bee squad to find the best fit appropriate for their size
and location of property. A narrative is included in the exhibits with additional information from the
Applicant. Regarding setbacks, one of the conditions for the CUP is that all animal structures are required
to be 75 feet from all property lines and 150 feet from adjacent homes. The Applicant submitted a site plan
indicating all these setbacks are met with the proposed location. Another requirement of the CUP is that 1
acre of their land is dedicated to dwelling and 1 acre is dedicated for each animal unit. This is just over 2
acres in size so Staff feels this is met. All conditions outlined by the City code are met with no adverse
impacts anticipated for the use of hives and honey bees. The Applicant submitted comments of support
from the neighbors and the issues for consideration,if the Planning Commission finds it necessary to impose
any additional conditions in order to mitigate any potential impacts by allowing this CUP.
Ressler clarified this is a CUP, setbacks are being met per code,and there is support from the neighbors.
Oakden replied that is correct.
Todd Ziesmer, 3440 Bayside Road, said it is very straightforward,no variances, everything complies, and
he is looking forward to his new hobby. He sent out letters introducing the project to 8-9 of his neighbors
and has received very positive feedback. One neighbor had just a few questions and the primary concern
some have about bees is them being a nuisance. He wants to clarify that honey bees are very different than
wasps. Honey bees forage on natural plants, nectar, and pollen, so they will not be bothering the
hummingbird feeder, oils,jellies, and when sitting outside honey bees stick to the flowers and the plants.
Mr. Ziesmer noted they are amazing and he and his wife have been contemplating it for a couple of years.
They are enrolled in the University of Minnesota bee squad online program and it is very fascinating. All
neighbors that have responded have said they are looking forward to the bees helping out all of the gardens
and flowers.
Erickson noted Mr. Ziesmer may want to go up to 6 hives and asked if he would be comfortable with a
limitation of not more than 6.
Ms.Ziesmer would be fine with that,yes.
Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 7:31 p.m.
The neighbor two doors down Ms. Solie, 3500 Bayside Rd, noted she received the letter, she is totally in
support of it, and thinks it is fantastic. She is very much in favor.
Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 7:32 p.m.
Ressler said setbacks are met, neighbors are in support, and there is a recommendation from Erickson to
limit to 6 hives which he thinks is smart because if it turns into a larger operation the Commission can
revisit it.
Kirchner moved, Gettman seconded, to approve LA21-000019, 3440 Bayside Rd, Conditional Use
Permit with the recommendation of a cap of 6 hives. VOTE: Ayes 7,Nays 0
5. LA21-000020 JACOB BROWN, 4085 WATERTOWN RD, VARIANCES (STAFF: LAURA
OAKDEN)
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Jacob Brown& Stacy Kromenhoek,Applicants,were present.
Staff presented a summary packet of information. The Applicant is requesting a lot area, lot width, front
yard setback, and side yard setback variances to allow for a new home on 4085 Watertown Road. The
Planning Staff is recommending approval on these requested variances. Currently the property has a non-
conforming single-family home which is outlined on the survey on screen. The property is non-conforming.
With respect to area,it is.64 acres and measured at the road is about 93 feet wide. This is the RR1A zoning
district which is a five-acre zoning district, and 300 feet in width. The Applicant noted overall height is
roughly 35 feet from final grade to peak height, following the City code calculations for defined height,
Staff has actually calculated the proposed height of the home to be 28.3 feet so it is meeting the height
requirements of City code. Oakden said the Applicant has identified practical difficulties,the overlapping
side yard setbacks,as seen on the survey there is a 50-foot side yard setback and she showed from the north
side and the south side completely overlapping, eliminating that building envelope. Oakden noted the
substandard lot area, lot width, and there is also quite a bit of slope in getting to the narrow part of the
property. Staff agrees with the Applicant's findings of the reasons for practical difficulties. The Applicant
is proposing to move the house further away from the front yard setback than the existing home footprint
and working to bring that home closer into conformity. The existing home sits about 21 feet from the road
and the Applicant is proposing a farther setback of 35.4 feet from the road. The required front yard is a
100-foot setback. The Applicant worked to find a narrow house design of 28 feet in width to try and
accommodate some spacing and side yard setbacks, closely maintaining that existing house footprint. The
proposed home was designed to create as large setbacks as possible and the Applicant is requesting 19 feet
to the property line because of the proposed deck stairs, and 23 feet to the west property line and that is
measured from the closest point(noted on screen)due to the strange configuration of the lot with the small
jut-in on the property line. Lot area and lot width variances are because the lot is substandard in the new
house construction. Staff found supportive findings for the proposed variance included in the memo. The
Applicant submitted letters of support from the two abutting neighbors. Staff recommends approval of the
requested lot area, lot width, front,and side yard setback variances.
Ressler noted the zoning is what is making this a bit of a rat's nest as there is 19 for one side setback and
23 on the other;they are going to 35 as proposed to 21 right now for front yard setback.
Oakden stated that is correct. 21 was the existing house and 35 is the proposed house, so they are bringing
the house slightly farther back away from the road.
Ressler said improving the position.
Oakden replied that is correct.
Stacy Kromenhoek and Jacob Brown, 1025 West Cove Lane. Mr.Kromenhoek thanked the Commissioners
for voting for the bees-as future neighbors in that area they are thrilled to hear that. She also thanked the
City Planners who were immensely helpful as this is a very difficult process and they really held the
Applicant's hands. As the Commissioners see they have a very unique lot, she is difficult but quite pretty
and they are trying to make a best attempt at meeting all the setbacks or at least improving their compliance
to the setbacks. They chose a very narrow house design that would probably fit within the room they are
standing in now and pulled it as far back off the road as possible. They also tried to reorient the house—it
was sitting at a funny angle on the lot—so they could get equal setbacks on both sides. They have met with
the neighbors and spent a considerable amount of time talking with them and let them know they were
trying to make it equal on both sides. She noted it is about 22 feet on the other side except for those stairs
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and they were all amenable to that. They also received an additional letter of support from the neighbor
across the road,the owner of Dandelion Farms. They also intend to build the home to make it fit the flavor,
character, and charm of the neighborhood. It is a very rural, residential area and the home they chose
reflects that farmhouse style as well and really complements the neighbors' designs. Ms. Kromenhoek
noted they read through the Comprehensive Plan as it was important to her to understand what was expected
and she thinks they have made all best attempts to meet the variances and the Comprehensive Plan.
Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 7:39 p.m.
Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 7:39 p.m.
Ressler noted they have an existing condition that is being improved as far as front yard setbacks, side yard
setbacks are reasonable and are just being triggered because of how it is being zoned. They have support
from the Staff. He asked if there is anyone opposed to the application as presented to the Commission
tonight.
McCutcheon replied no and it is a pretty conservative house footprint to be honest.
Ressler agrees and thinks they have approved different things more aggressive than this.
Kirchner moved, Gettman seconded, to approve LA21-000020, 4085 Watertown Rd, Variances as
submitted. VOTE: Ayes 7,Nays 0
6. LA21-000021 JOHN NEWELL, 1485 6TH AVE N, PRELIMINARY PLAT (STAFF: JEREMY
BARNHART)
John Newell,Applicant,was present.
Staff presented a summary packet of information. In front of the Commission is a proposal for a three-lot
subdivision to take the existing 24-acre parcel, split it into three buildable lots and one outlot for a road.
This project was the subject of a sketch plan about a year ago and the project is fairly consistent with that
sketch plan. Barnhart highlighted the access for the project would be off of County Road 6 and Hennepin
County has provided some comment as to what they would like to see in terms of additional right-of-way.
It seems to him that they are accepting the location as proposed,though they may require some work near
the right-of-way to preserve a site visibility issue. Staff supports the project subject to Hennepin County
approval of the access. Staff has also reviewed it from a City Engineering standpoint and provided some
commentary in terms of additional changes primarily related to storm water management. Staff
recommends approval subject to those conditions also. All three lots will be consistent with the City's
zoning ordinance in terms of lot area and lot width; all three lots have adequate sites for a new home in
character with the neighborhood,and for two septic sites located for each lot. Staff suggested that approval
would be subject to identification of those septic sites. Each lot will be served by an on-site well. During
the sketch plan process the Commission had some comments about connecting to the sanitary sewer. Staff
does not recommend it as a requirement, although it is certainly feasible, because it is not immediately
adjacent to the property. Generally,they require sanitary sewer to be immediately adjacent to the property
before instituting a requirement to connect to that. Each lot meets the minimum size requirements for dry
buildable area and meets the lot width requirements in terms of the requirements for the zoning district.
For Lots 1 and 3, the measurement will be off the new road outlot A, and Lot 2 frontage will be based on
the distance at the building setback and does meet those requirements. Staff has asked for confirmation for
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that number,as Staff's computation came out above 235 feet and they would like verification for that. The
Applicant has provided a storm water management proposal that the City Engineer provided comment on;
they also expect the Watershed District to provide some additional comment. There are a number of basins
or infiltration areas scattered throughout the development and the unique feature of this project is that
throughout the area is Long Lake Creek which is a tributary to Long Lake. That water has been identified
as impaired and is part of the strategy of the Watershed District to improve water quality of the Long Lake
Watershed District. Barnhart would imagine the Watershed District will have some comments coming in
terms of recommended conditions so Staff has tagged on to those and suggests approval subject to the
Watershed District comments as they complete their review. The project provides a landscaping plan based
on the length of the road. Previously in the City's rural areas,they have tried clumping of trees rather than
a suburban, tree every 40 foot on center, and the plan reflects that goal. Planning Staff is recommending
approval of the project subject to four conditions:
1. City Engineer comments
2. Hennepin County approval
3. Watershed District approval
4. Confirmation of two conforming septic sites for each lot.
John Newell, 1485 County Road 6, stated they have hired someone to come in and verify those two septic
locations on both lots and that has been done. There are some hoops to deal with regarding the Watershed
District and Mr. Newell is working with them at this point in time. They have requests for an easement
across Lot 1 in order to be able to access the pond; he has already given them full access and he thinks it
was applied for back in 1995 and never followed through on. Mr. Newell thinks the documentation is
already there and he does not believe that will be an issue. Mr.Newell is a landscape architect so the first
thing he did when he bought the property was to machine-move trees, so they already have a regimented
landscaping appearance to it which he hopes will conform. He knows that will have to be determined once
they have that plan in place.
Bollis asked regarding lot width for Lot 2,was that a question?
Barnhart replied the comment was that Staff just wanted confirmation that it was over 200 feet; his math
shows that it is over 200 feet and he just wants confirmation from the surveying company in the final
drawing.
Bollis assumes the easement for the Watershed District is through Lot 1 at the end of the cul-de-sac.
Barnhart replied yes.
Bollis asked if that will eat into any of the dry buildable on Lot 1.
Mr.Newell replied it shouldn't; there is already an existing easement or entrance there that he planted off
as much as he can leaving about a 45-foot path to be able to still get access in, which should allow just
about any kind of dredging. He believes that is the reason they want to be able to get back in and clean that
pond should it silt-out.Mr.Newell noted they just examined it last year and when he spoke with Heidi there
were no plans to do any type of work,except there is one thing up by the dam that they are proposing.
Bollis asked to clarify that it is not an access easement, but more of an easement to do work within that
wetland.
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Mr.Newell replied that is correct...it is so they can get into that pond.
Barnhart said to be clear, he does not know what the full intent is for that property or easement and that is
why they are deferring to their comment.
Mr.Newell stated their intent, once they clear the mortgage, is to actually donate all the wetlands. So,the
property that is directly below Lot 3, those wetlands and the pond would be donated to the Watershed
District.
Gettman asked to go to the second to last page of the packet showing the lots that border the lake.
Mr.Newell noted they do not border a lake.
Gettman understands that. He noted on screen the area below the blue line and asked if those are three
separate,oversized lots that have houses on them;how will they be affected by the wetlands area.
Barnhart does not understand the question.
Gettman noted it is for the Applicant and he is trying to make sure he understands what Mr. Newell is
talking about regarding the wetlands; is the area that has the house right now below that or south of that or
is it the area west of it.
Mr. Newell said it would be north of his house, pretty much due north. It is really where the creek runs
through the property. He clarified it would be the pond and the entire marsh area.
Gettman noted those three properties to the south,those are not Mr.Newell's properties.
Mr. Newell replied no, there is an easement driveway-wise to access those two lots, the point and then
Megan Dayton's home;those two lots at the point.
Gettman was trying to clarify that those two lots will not be affected by this plan.
Mr.Newell replied no,they will still have that same access through the same driveway.
Ressler noted the application as proposed is not to donate those wetlands so it is still intact based on the
application in front of the Commission. He appreciates the color and the clarity as well.
Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 7:54 p.m.
Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 7:54 p.m.
Ressler noted the Commission has seen this before and has feedback from the past they can memorialize if
necessary. There were some changes recommended and Staff noted the previous feedback was supportive
of City sewer,but that it is not required.
Barnhart stated previously the Commission suggested it, Staff notes that it is an opportunity but does not
recommend it as a requirement.
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Ressler noted Staff recommendation is for approval and Lot 2 is the one they wanted to clarify on record
as a condition to verify the width is 200 feet.
Barnhart replied yes.
Bollis moved,Libby seconded,to approve LA21-000021, 1485 6th Ave N,Preliminary Plat with Staff
recommendations. VOTE: Ayes 7,Nays 0
7. LA21-000022 ALLIANCE BUILDERS, 15 STUBBS BAY ROAD NO/ PID 32-118-23-34-0006,
VARIANCE(STAFF: LAURA OAKDEN)
Efim Shukalovich,Applicant,was present.
Staff presented a summary packet of information. Ms. Oakden noted the Planning Commission saw this
property not too long ago. The Applicant is requesting a side yard setback variance and Staff recommends
approval. This property received lot area, lot width and side yard setback variances in December 2020
(LA20-000071). That application established an 18.2-foot setback to the north, and a 15.5-foot setback to
the south property line for side yard setbacks, addressing the neighbor's comment to create maximum
setbacks to the north at that time. The Applicant recently purchased the vacant property and is proposing
to place the new home at a similar front setback as neighboring properties have and as the previous house
footprint had but does encroach into required setback areas not previously approved. She said the Applicant
is maintaining the same side yard setbacks but it a new house footprint so it is a new volume and house
footprint within those required yards. The Applicant is proposing a rambler style home with a walk out
basement. The new application is maintaining the side yard setbacks but a new home footprint within the
setbacks is being proposed. That new footprint within the required yard is the trigger for the Commission's
re-review and this additional variance. The property is non-conforming with respect to area with 1.22 acres
and in width at 123.77 feet,where the RR-1A district requires 5 acres in area and 300 feet in width, so it is
substandard. The Applicant has identified the existing lot width as practical difficulties supporting the
requested variances. Staff finds there are inherent practical difficulties with the substandard lot size and the
building envelope of the property. She noted a lot analysis was done as well as an analysis of that side yard
setback. Staff has found supportive findings for practical difficulty requirements and is recommending
approval of the proposed side yard setback variances with that new footprint. She noted on screen there is
an overlay where the yellow is the proposed house footprint and the blue was the original approved; the
white is the overlap. Originally there was some approval of house on the side and the front and the new
proposed house is pulled back about two feet from the original for the front yard, but they are proposing
more massing on the north side and the south side with the wrap-around deck. Most of that additional
footprint is to the rear of the house so it should not make too big of an impact from the street. The Applicant
also reached out to that neighbor who commented originally and spoke with them about maintaining that
setback.
Ressler clarified the new footprint of the front yard setback is the trigger and asked if that is correct.
Oakden noted it is the side yard setback.
Ressler clarified and said they are improving the front yard setback.
Oakden replied that is correct.
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Ressler said it is a substandard lot and makes the building envelope difficult to comply.
Oakden said that is correct.
McCutcheon said the Applicant reached out to the neighborhood and the neighborhood was fine with it.
Oakden believes they reached out to the neighbor and if the Applicant is here,he can speak to that. Oakden
did receive an email from the Applicant stating they had reached out and communicated with that northern
neighbor.
Ressler asked if any neighbor has gone on record with their feedback.
Oakden has not received any official statements or signatures.
Efim Shukalovich,Alliance Builders,was the initial buyer who provided the plan to the seller when he was
applying for the variance. He is looking to build a house for a family, his wife and three girls. They are
changing the house a little bit and moving the deck from the back to the side and that is the house they have
come up with. He hopes for approval.
Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 8:03 p.m.
Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 8:03 p.m.
Kirchner appreciates that this has been pushed back a bit from the front and it does not look like,where he
is assuming a garage would go based on the proposed driveway, looks no further forward than what the
Planning Commission had originally approved. While he understands there is additional footprint towards
the rear, it still appears to maintain within the original setback. Barring any neighbors concerns or public
comment against it, Kirchner does not see an issue with this as it seems to conform for the most part to
what they had already approved specific to the side yard setbacks.
Ressler agrees and thinks the Staff recommendation of approval is prudent based on the mitigants that have
been presented.
Kirchner moved, Bollis seconded, to approve LA21-000022 Alliance Builders, 15 Stubbs Bay Road
No/Pid 32-118-23-34-0006,Variance as applied. VOTE: Ayes 7,Nays 0
8. LA20-000047 CITY OF ORONO TEXT AMENDMENT RELATED TO BOAT STORAGE
(STAFF: JEREMY BARNHART)
Staff presented a summary packet of information. The City Attorney has identified challenges to the
enforcement of the regulations related to boat and boat trailer storage, in particular the section of the code
that deals with inoperable boats and the duration that those are stored on the property. Staff and the City
Council have been discussing this over the last 6 months or so to come up with a solution to address the
issue of enforceability of the boat storage regulations. It quickly snowballed into whether they should really
look at everything. The Council, in the direction of the Staff, primarily focused on the boat and trailer
storage, to identify other glaring issues that need to be addressed, but also look at an ordinance with the
goal of keeping it simple,making it easy to understand so the residents and constituents can have confidence
in what the ordinance says and know they are satisfying that ordinance which is always a goal. Staff has
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put together a draft ordinance, he provided the Commission with the entire text of that chapter for context
as it includes a lot of storage in the residential area. In the draft ordinance they are just proposing some
changes related to boat storage. Barnhart showed the section of the code that deals with the exterior zoning
and the residential zoning districts and includes vehicle storage regulations and other things. Primarily they
wanted to focus on storage of boats and boat trailers. Staff is recommending some changes that address the
City Attorney's goals in terms of keeping it enforceable, removing or suggesting the removal of the
requirement that it be operable conditions for the reason that it is hard to prove that, and certainly for a
period of more than two years. Staff said as long as the boat is currently licensed to the owner or occupant
of the property, that is what the focus is. One is allowed to store a boat on their property as long as it is
licensed. Staff also recommended removing the recommended maximum length provisions;currently City
code says as long as the boat is less than 30 feet in length, one is allowed to store it on their property. The
question is where is that 30 feet measured—on the trailer or the boat specifically? He noted the argument
is they are a lakeshore community,people are going to have boats,and it seems reasonable that people will
want to store them on their property. If they are licensed,that is the primary goal there. The discussion for
the Commission is whether they have any guidance for the Council as to where it is appropriate within
one's lot to store a boat. The way it is drafted here is that boats and occupied trailers may be stored in any
yard except for the lake yard provided that a 5 feet setback is provided. Barnhart said this is written that
one can store it in the rear yard, side yard, front yard, but if there is a lake yard on the property the 0-75,
that one is not permitted to store the boat there. Obviously,that would not apply to storing it in the water
as the City's jurisdiction ends at the water's edge there. He welcomes feedback to take to the City Council.
He noted they also took out the dispute resolution as it seems to be a dicey situation for Staff to resolve
disputes in this manner, so Staff suggests removing it.
Bollis is thinking about kayaks, paddle boards and things that are registered boats and watercraft that are
commonly stored at the lake yard.
Barnhart noted some cities have identified what watercraft is, it is not just something that will float but
meets certain requirements. It is certainly something they can look at as an issue and he thinks that is a
good comment. He stated some of his earlier drafts had a definition of what watercraft is and he thinks it
is probably appropriate. Bollis is right, there are a number of kayaks, canoes, paddle boards that people
pull up on the shore and it seems a logical location to store those.
Bollis is curious as to how that would affect anybody that has a shore slide for a small fishing boat or jet-
ski. If the jurisdiction ends at the water line,things that are traditionally on a shore slide instead of a dock.
He thinks there might be a conflict on those. Otherwise,he thinks the changes look pretty good.
Ressler agrees with Bollis. The term licensed might need to be registered,because he believes registration
tabs are how watercraft are identified. He thinks about how some people have fish houses that turn into
storage sheds and if they maintain their registration on the fish house,they can keep their storage shed so
that becomes a bit of slippery slope with a boat. Somehow,he has an idea of someone that has a giant cabin
cruiser that they are using as a guest house all of a sudden. Not a perfect scenario under any circumstances
but perhaps something to be cognizant of. He understands that the operable condition is a very difficult
thing to regulate and he thinks striking that language eliminates some vulnerabilities and some costs for
every complaint that is issued. Ressler would like the Commission to look at some other means to measure,
whether it is a timeline of any craft without being relocated or something other than the registration. He
again said,picking on fish houses that turn into storage houses or auxiliary buildings.
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Barnhart thinks it is reasonable to suggest from the Commission that the Council consider changes or
regulations related to fish houses and the like.
Ressler said he cannot speak on behalf of the whole Commission but that is part of his recommendation.
Kirchner would be supportive of that. He knows it is a stretch, but for instance someone had a watercraft
fire and got it extinguished and it was towed out of the lake on to a trailer and parked in their front yard.
Technically, if they went through the registration for a boat that is completely burned out on a trailer it
would be acceptable the way this is worded right now. He believes the operable condition is something he
would still like to see in there; it would be consistent with junk vehicle ordinances for many cities around
and how that is enforced. He agrees there is a neighboring community to the south and every time he drives
down a certain County Road Kirchner passes a sailboat on the side of the road in someone's yard that has
been there for the last 6-7 years. He is hesitant to do away with the operational condition and is not
necessarily supportive of just saying it needs to be registered because there are ways to skirt around that.
Ressler thinks so too. He has an idea that may be a happy compromise. Operable versus inoperable for a
boat versus a vehicle might be more difficult to prove; perhaps they could strike the language of operable
versus inoperable but retain the language talking about a period of time and define that time by whether it
is relocating it to a different location or lot altogether. Is there something they can use as a measurement
that does not have to do with registration as that seems like an easy work around.
Barnhart stated inoperable is nearly impossible to prove. To Ressler's point,the junk car is usually defined
as missing key components such as tires,hood,and windshields. He thinks they may expand that to apply
to boats with a hole in the hull, etcetera. Barnhart said he cannot prove that something is moved because
he does not check every day. The goal is to try to keep it reasonable and simple.
McCutcheon is thinking of those who are restoring a boat because it is technically not licensed yet or
operable yet. He is sure that is probably a small subset and perhaps even zero but one would hate to take
that away from a citizen whose lifelong dream was to retire and build a boat.
Barnhart noted they cannot do it and store it outside.
McCutcheon noted if one is building a 30-foot boat,not many people can accommodate that.
Barnhart understands and that is part of the balance. While one has the right to develop their boat, the
neighbors have a right to not have boat construction right next door for an indefinite period of time.
Libby can certainly see legal counsel's reticence to do the enforcement and why it is prudent to redact some
of these things and get them out of here. He tends to agree with Kirchner in regard to the dilapidated or
less than sufficiently functional storage. It will still be difficult to enforce, but that and the safety aspects
of setback—he cannot answer the enforcement question but considering that so many of these boat vehicles
store a substantial amount of fuels on them perpetually and out of water, as fuel tanks usually do not get
drained. He pays dearly to store his boat indoors and he has a couple hundred gallons of fuel in the boat all
winter. If he did store it like some people would be able to do,if they redact this and take it out,that setback
they are removing is a safety issue that perhaps the Fire Department would chime in on. Libby suggested
seeing if they can keep the setback from the principal residence as an element of regulatory compliance so
they do not have boats that can have electrical problems start on fire in the winter with a large quantity of
fuel destroy a home.
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Bollis commented on the RS district for the lake yard storage. Not to bring up Big Island, but he knows
residents out there that have no other place to store their boat if they are storing on land. It effectively has
to be in the lake yard.
Barnhart noted to keep in mind this is for residential(R)districts.
Bollis clarified this does not have anything to do with the RS?
Barnhart will have to look at it closer,but immediately,no.
Bollis said they are not talking cabin cruisers but some people keep their fishing boats on the shore slides
in the winter.
Barnhart said that is a good point and worth exploring.
Ressler said it looks like they are proposing to strike the two-year mark as well. Perhaps there is a period
of time recognized that says this boat has not moved for 3-4 years and at some point,the City has to have
some grounds to require that action be taken. That is not going to be difficult to prove.
Barnhart stated it is, actually. He has to document for 365x2 that it did not move. That is the challenge
and it is in the code now two years and the intent was to capture people from improving their boat over an
extended period of time, but he has to prove it has been inoperable for that two-year period. If one day it
worked or floated,it is operable even though there is no engine in it. He said to capture what the main goal
is, which is impact to the neighbors, the visual impact, use of property impact, and capture and try to
regulate that versus throwing a bunch of rules at people that address some discomfort. That is what he is
trying to balance.
Ressler asked a different way. He thinks the boats they are referring to that don't move probably wouldn't
be removed and floated—at least the ones he is thinking about have not moved for several years and would
not even be mobile. But this would at least give some teeth to their language. Whether the City can enforce
it or not would be up for debate but at least it gives an argument. He sees Curtis shaking her head. He
understands how it could be difficult but if they do not have anything in there it just makes it less difficult
to enforce.
Barnhart said Kirchner made a point about the junk car regulation and if they somehow expand it into the
junk boat, and he thinks there are some avenues there. He thinks that is what he would rather pursue than
trying to identify what moving is or those type of regulations. He noted there is a legitimate and pretty
well-established junk car regulation and he thinks they can find a way to expand that into a boat or
watercraft scenario.
Kirchner said from an enforcement standpoint he assumes it would be considered a misdemeanor violation,
as most city ordinances are. That puts them into the criminal courts where they need beyond a reasonable
doubt;for the City to say it does not look like it moved because the weeds are 8.5 feet tall growing through
the bottom of the boat, based on personal experience it will not hold up in court and they will not get a
judge to grant based on that evidence. He noted all it takes it someone to come in and say they did move it
on this day, at this time, 1:00am in the morning they pushed it 3.5 inches forward. He respects the
thoughtfulness that goes into this and how they make it actually enforceable and accomplish the goals.
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Barnhart said before they go too far,they could have the public hearing.
Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 8:22 p.m.
Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 8:22 p.m.
Ressler hears Barnhart loud and clear. They are not trying to make it difficult to prove but also provide
some protection for neighbors in the community. He thinks the feedback provided is reasonable and he is
not sure they will solve it tonight. Whether or not there is a provision of time that says it has to be taken
off the site, not just moved 3-4 feet or pulled in and pulled out. He is looking for something that could
trigger to at least provide some reasonable doubt—that is all he is after with the time provision. Bollis'
feedback is reasonable and he thinks it was heard and there is support for the lake ward setback and
depending on what kind of watercraft referred to,for example a canoe,kayak,jet-ski no a rolling slide that
brings it on to shore. Setback from principal structure from Libby is worth noting and taking into
consideration.
Erickson commented regarding vehicle storage in number 3b, item 2 in the amendment it says the vehicle
must be set back 50 feet from the property line. He thinks that is generally okay but there might be an
exception if there is a vacant lot adjacent to the vehicle, perhaps it might be more desirable for the owner
and the neighbors to have it close to the side of the vacant lot. If the lot is vacant and there is no neighbor
that will be bothered by it,it might be less objectionable to the neighborhood if it is off to that side. Perhaps
if there is some way to allow for that.
Barnhart can certainly look into that. He said the Commission is well within their rights to table action on
this. He can come back with a revision and they can act on it in April.
Ressler thinks the feedback provided is pretty good and inevitably it needs to go to the City Council to
decide. He thinks the Commission is all in agreement as to what they want it to say but they do not want
to make it complicated and put themselves in vulnerabilities. Based on that,unless anyone feels otherwise,
Ressler thinks it prudent to keep it moving and for Barnhart to clean up and present to Council.
Bollis has a question on the principal resident required(item 4b) -he is looking for clarification as it says
it has to be a principal residence and no boat shall be stored on property or group of contiguously common-
owned properties. He noted there are a lot of 50-foot-wide lots that are combined of three different lots and
there is a house on 2 of the 3. He asked if they are saying there is no storage allowed on the other piece of
the 50 foot.
Barnhart thinks that is referring to a situation where it is almost a lot of record type of thing. He is not
proposing any changes to that but the primary objective here is that people are not allowed to store on a
vacant lot.
Ressler asked if anyone wants to approve the item.
Bollis would rather move to table than approve so the Commission can see the wording of the feedback.
Barnhart clarified if the Commission recommends approval or denial it goes to Council. If they table it,
they will see it again.
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Bollis noted if the push it to Council there would be no public hearing for the language.
Barnhart said there will not be an official public hearing,but the Mayor has consistently allowed people to
speak at the meeting.
Bollis moved,Kirchner seconded,to table LA20-000047 City of Orono Text Amendment Related To
Boat Storage.
Ressler is not entirely sure they will all be in agreement as to how they modify this language, but the City
Council has enough information going after what the Commission is going after. That would be the only
reason he would be opposed to tabling. He thinks cleaning this up sooner rather than later cleans up the
vulnerability and puts it in the Council's hand to make this revision live.
McCutcheon noted the Commission would probably like to button it up and get it done but since there is
not a citizen waiting in this situation,he tends to agree with tabling it.
Bollis said the other option would be to move it forward with the comments if they could have an official
public hearing at the City Council meeting.
Barnhart noted the Commission will not have another public hearing,and he cannot require the City Council
to hold a public hearing when the Commission has already had one. He said up front, all 7 of the
Commissioners will not like the draft ordinance. The Council has given some direction of what they would
like to see and there is certainly debate in some areas, but the breadth of comments he has gotten are
somewhat outside of that boundary. If the vote is to table, he will come back with something, but he is
prepared to go forward with a recommendation of denial on certain aspects of it, which is fine,that is the
process.
VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 2 (Gettman,Ressler).
9. LA20-000053 DALE RICHARDSON O/B/O CBS MN PROPERTIES, LLC, 2060 WAYZATA
BLVD W,CONCEPT PLAN(STAFF: JEREMY BARNHART)
Dale Richardson,Applicant,was present.
Staff presented a summary packet of information. This is a sketch plan or concept plan review for a propose
40-unit apartment building located at 2060 Wayzata Boulevard. In 2005 this property was the subject of a
proposed office condominium/townhome project. At the time there were 5 townhome office buildings.
One was built in 2008 and a foundation for another was poured. The existing building was the subject of a
Conditional Use Permit(CUP)for a daycare center and was the first activity in this project area since 2008.
The property owner purchased the property in 2017 and is looking to develop a 3-story apartment structure
with 40 units. The property is guided for high density residential and used to be guided for commercial; in
the 2040 Comprehensive Plan the property was re-guided to high density residential (20-25 units/acre).
The Applicant is working under that guidance from the Comp Plan. The building will be 4 stories including
one level of underground parking with 66 stalls plus three above ground apartment floors proposed. The
project is being proposed as a Residential Planned Unit Development (RPUD) and the Commission may
recall last month that they do not have a zoning district for high density residential; most come through as
an RPUD of which this is a permitted use. They are operating under that from a guidance standpoint in
terms of the final zoning district. Barnhart's memo included analysis of the RPUD zoning regulations.
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Regarding elevations, he showed on screen access to the underground parking in the south portion of the
building and noted there are three levels exposed on the back and a little bit of the fourth story adjacent to
the parking garage is shown exposed. The project is proposed as a flat roof building. In Barnhart's analysis
of the RPUD zoning district it requires a five-acre minimum lot size for an RPUD zone—this property is at
2.48 and is calculated based on the remnants of the original project less the existing daycare center building
at the northwest corner. The Council may find this project conforms to this exception under C;the zoning
ordinance has certain exceptions where the Commission or Council can support a re-zoning. The exception
here that would apply is the property is located in an area where it is a transition between commercial and
existing residential.On the west side of the property is a fertilizer warehouse and gas station and on the east
side is a senior housing project. It would meet with that condition in terms of a transition. To the north is
single family residential. Barnhart noted the main issues are the roof style,the height of the building, and
the private recreational areas. The RPUD zoning district requires 10% of the gross land area of a project
to be private recreation. The City has allowed a range of uses for the private recreation. Orono Crossing
last month had a tot lot and some open space in the center of that project, and for a senior housing project
they had a walking path and a pavilion area,they have also had an outdoor deck for other uses. This plan
shows a rooftop deck over the southern portion of the project which could meet some of the private
recreation area. He would appreciate any comment the Commission has regarding the private recreation
area. Perhaps the biggest issue that Staff and Applicant are looking for is feedback on the building height.
Historically the City has kept to a 30-foot maximum limit for building height and there is a mechanism to
define that different height. This is a unique situation because the property developed in 2005 and grading
occurred for that project so the building is set up for walkout basements and office buildings. Obviously,
this project is not that so there is some redevelopment as part of the grading proposal. In both situations,
the building is more than 30 feet high. The shortest,most generous way to review it is a 35-foot-tall building
and based on existing conditions it is defined as a 41-foot-tall building because of some challenges in terms
of fitting within the 30-foot limit. The setbacks are based on a minimum of 35 foot for side yard and rear
yard, but also there is a clause that the setback should not be less than the height of the building. If the
height is measured at 41 feet the setback should be 41 feet from the side and rear and obviously this project
does not do that. The roof is a flat roof and the RPUD regulation specifies residential character by
incorporating pitched or hipped roof. Barnhart does not know what was predominant in 2002 or whenever
the RPUD was created but he thinks the intent with a residential hipped roof is something with a residential-
type scale. He looks for feedback from the Commission and noted the challenge is when adding a gable,
they add a pitched roof to the building and the height only increases unless they shorten the number of
stories. Staff is looking for feedback on this project,primarily site size,building height,and the roof style.
Bollis asked if there have been any projects where they have used previous grade to establish the height
versus the grade that is there.
Barnhart cannot remember any specifically and certainly not with an 18-year difference between them. He
noted across the street they did an apartment building and used the grade that is there today,not what it was
before it was mass-graded for Stone Bay. He does not want to say they have never done it.
Kirchner said it notes a 750 square foot deck on the third floor as well as the 2nd and 3'floor perhaps have
some recreational space. He asked what the overall square footage of amenity space is.
Barnhart does not know what amenity means, it could be the lobby and not the recreation space. He is
looking for feedback of what the Commission expects out of a project of this scale and they can go forward
from there.
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Kirchner clarified they do not yet know if the 10%recreational area is met.
Barnhart replied they do not know.
Dale Richardson purchased the property in 2015, did the first development in 2017 and the road
construction put a halt on the second building project. On the first level there is an exercise room, and the
community room will be on the top deck area, also. It will be a rental for parties or a guest suite; he noted
there is a little more footage than what they are explaining. They would fill in the back area back in so it
will butt up to the original grade that it was at and will actually be lower than what the original was as it
was physically cutout to accommodate walkouts because that site was originally a hill. He noted they are
just trying to make it work with what they have and this is the minimum number that makes it financially
feasible to do the project. The green area from the corner of the building around to the back will be a nice
level area and they will use the stone they have to do retaining walls around the property.
Gettman said for marketing, what ranges do they have for the different sized units, the 860 all the way up
to 2,300.
Mr. Richardson said the 2,300 will be a three-bedroom unit and will be a market rate for local families
living on the lake who want to keep a presence in the area but do not want to maintain a home. It will be a
nicer unit,post-tension concrete construction.
Gettman asked if it will be$200,000-$300,000 or$400,000-$600,000 range.
Mr. Richardson said bare bones construction on post-tension,the cheapest they can do is about$250,000 a
unit. He noted they are not selling but renting these and to keep the style of the building that compact,the
price goes way up.
Gettman clarified this is an apartment and not condos to sell.
Mr. Richardson said that is right, it will be built like a condo, everyone will have their own heat and air
conditioning unit and water heater. It will be set up like a condo—style system and metered individually,
but will be a market rate apartment.
Gettman asked what rates they are anticipating the different sizes.
Mr. Richardson noted they have not fully determined that yet but will be comparable to a project off 394
and 494—they range from$2,800/unit for the three bedrooms and charge for parking on top of that.
Gettman said the one bedrooms would be what.
Mr. Richardson said one bedrooms would be around$1,500-$1,800.
Gettman asked with respect to the recreation that it will be geared more towards families.
Mr. Richardson said it will be open to anybody; if someone is getting divorced and wants to live in Orono
next to the schools, or if someone is moving out of their home, anyone that wants to live there. It is not 55
or older,but they are keeping it to the market rate.
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Gettman clarified the target numbers are based on the 48 units and he knows City Council has pushed back
quite a bit on the 3 versus 4 story scenario.
Mr. Richardson noted they are basically a 3-story building but they have underground parking. He thinks
when they are fully landscaped it will not look like the extra story underneath which would have originally
been underground anyways.
Gettman asked if they have run numbers to make this still feasible in having two levels of apartments.
Mr. Richardson said they would not even consider it; it is not possible.
Libby said the ceiling heights can also be a constructive way of dealing with building height and asked if
the top floors are any higher ceiling-wise than the lower.
Mr. Richardson replied they are trying to keep them uniform at close to 9-foot ceilings, but there are
structural beams, sprinklers,electrical, lots of stuff to get in there.
Libby said from the grade and elevations, is it conceivable in order to bring the overall building height to a
30-foot maximum, can they do garden levels on the main level and still be able to have the density, rental
income, and cash flow they need to do that. Garden level apartments right now are renting for over a
thousand dollars a month.
Mr. Richardson understands where Libby is coming from. He does not want to make it feel like one is half
underground on the main level. He noted the codes have just recently changed to that 30-foot level—they
have always been 35 or 36 feet. He said they are not trying to exceed the old code but they were not able
to do this project until this point because of the road construction project. He noted he has been in a lawsuit
with Hennepin County since 2016 on it and have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars that could have
gone to development, but he could not develop it when he was having problems with the County. If he
could have done this right from the get-go and rolled right into it; the neighboring building Orono Woods
is 45-50 feet. He is not asking for the max,but they just want 35. He thinks it is a very reasonable number
to ask for, it is not in a high residential area,but right on the end of Orono and the site was elevated another
10 feet as a hill was cut out of there. If they had gone with the original plan and grading,which he did not
own at the time, he does not think they would even have had an issue because they are hauling dirt out in
massive quantity to get the grade into the hill that was originally there.
Ressler wants to clarify the height by definition is not cut and dry,it is not actual,it is how they measure it.
He noted they have been 30 feet for at least ten years or perhaps longer. He asked Staff to clarify how they
measure that height.
Barnhart stated they measure height through a combination of the lowest floor and where the highest
adjacent grade touches the footprint of the building and then on a flat roof structure, the top point of that
flat roof. For a hipped roof structure, it is usually between the midpoint of the peak and the eave. In his
memo, he included some arithmetic sheets and the Applicant also provided their math of how they get to
the height. There are two buildings in town that he is aware of,that are more than 30 feet,one is the building
next door that was approved in 2002 and that project also received City financial assistance because the
Council at that time had certain goals in mind for that property. The other one is the Stone Bay project that
was approved in 2002 or 2003;again,that was approved with RPUD and the Council had specific goals for
that. With anyof the requirements in the RPUD zoningdistrict,the Council can waive certain requirements.
e uirements.
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In the 6 years Barnhart has been here and the 15 years before that, the Council has been pretty consistent
of staying to that 30 feet. They can waive that but his advice to the Applicant and the Planning Commission
is that the Council has pretty consistently held to that 30 feet and he is looking for feedback if they think it
is appropriate to change that at this juncture.
Libby said obviously the flat roof works in the Applicant's favor and he is interested to hear him speak of
runoff and drainage with a flat roof,especially drainage away from the building as it is a different dynamic
with a flat roof. He asked if there are engineering designs that have worked well in the past.
Mr. Richardson stated they are working with Lux Engineering and they did the original site development
on this project and also on Orono Woods. They have the holding pond on Brown Road as part of this
project and are working to redesign it so the roof drains will actually go right into the storm drain system,
so they will not be any runoff from the roof, at all.
Libby clarified storm drain to the ponding.
Mr. Richardson replied yes, it will be all internal drainage so it won't have any more impact than the five
buildings they would have had. He thinks an apartment is needed here,there has not been market rate for
an apartment in Orono for quite some time,he was told over 20 years but he does not know if that is correct
or not.
Libby noted there are somewhat limited setbacks for the building positioning and they will have limited
ability to move that water away quickly, it will all have to be subterranean then.
Mr. Richardson replied that is correct, and it is all there now,they have to rework it. All the infrastructure
is already in...all the water and sewer. The Applicant is going to reconfigure it to their needs and take some
of the surface drains out and put the roof drains right into catch basins. By making that back level, it will
give quite a bit of flat area in the backyard.
Libby noted there is a fair amount of grade.
Mr. Richardson said it is higher behind the building right now,the hill actually goes uphill.
Libby stated there is a fair amount of pitch away from the building.
Mr. Richardson agreed and said it will still flow around the building and this is just a preliminary.
Libby asked where the entrance to the underground parking will be.
Mr. Richardson said it is from the existing parking lot, on the top right on screen.
Kirchner asked if they plan to allow pets at this property.
Mr. Richardson said they are not going to restrict pets, although they will not want Rottweilers in there.
Kirchner understands they will have the standard pet addendum that limits breeds to some degree. His
question is, looking at the structural and parking lot massing, in a complex this size, has there been any
thought to a dog run or something like that. He is assuming they are going with somewhat of a luxurious
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market rate and building some of those amenities that typically come with. With the walls in the rear and
the structural mass in the parking lot he is struggling to see where there might be that type of area.
Mr. Richardson noted they have a partial wrought iron fence on the back of the property and they will
probably just carry that around the property.
Erickson asked if the existing daycare building is going to stay as is.
Mr. Richardson answered yes, and the foundation that has not been built on they will remove. He was not
aware that the restrictions were 30 feet,he has built homes in the past and was always told 36 feet.
Barnhart thinks the difference is the defined height versus the actual top of the building.
Mr. Richardson said from what he saw in the code he did not see it actually isolated.
Barnhart clarified it has been there.
Bollis said regarding the overall height, he knows they measure from the highest existing grade that there
is today,to the top of the roof(because there is not a pitched roof). He said it would be fair to say if they
can build a two-story building here with a third story underground with a pitched roof, it may actually
measure higher than what he is proposing because this has a flat roof. The reason is because they measure
a pitched roof to the midpoint of the pitched roof, so that could be 30 feet and there could be another 15
feet of roofing above that.
Barnhart stated the City has approved buildings that have a bigger mass impact because of the pitch of the
roof
Bollis said if they throw out the way they measure the code and they were to build these two buildings he
just described side-by-side,the one that the code reads measures 30 feet with a pitched roof would actually
measure taller than this building and look bigger.
Barnhart clarified the peak height would be taller,yes.
Bollis noted that is what a person sees driving down the road or standing there—that massing. The way it
is proposed,he is okay with that height variance from what the code is just because of that. He clarified he
would not be okay with it if it had a pitched roof and they were asking for 5 feet above code.
Ressler's only feedback is that it is a different design style, this is more of a contemporary look and they
are not here to design it. Bollis makes a good point that the actual or affective height versus the peaked
height and how it is being measured could arguably affect the massing and he would like to look a bit closer
at that before he can weigh in on whether he would be agreeable to going above the height restrictions they
have in place in the code. He knows they have been pretty reluctant to grant any sort of height variances
for proposals like these,but it is a reasonable point of view to say that the actual massing is more favorable
this way. It is whether or not the Commission feels that is not going to have as much of an impact.
Erickson would like to support the existing guidelines that the City Council has acted on a number of times.
He thinks they are trying to accomplish an architectural theme and it is a theme that runs the length of
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County 112 in Orono and includes a certain height restriction, a pitched roof, and setbacks equal to the
height. He is comfortable in sticking with that.
Ressler thinks there could be a project here that could be built without having to exceed that measurement
and it would certainly be nice to see what that would look like in contrast.
McCutcheon noted they should probably talk about the setbacks since it is not a five-acre property, it is
much smaller. Is the Commission comfortable putting that much massing on a small lot. They may talk
about where those people will walk their dogs, is there any kind of playground area, or anything the people
there can enjoy. The rental space was mentioned but it needs to be rented. He would like to see a little
more combination towards public space or common areas besides a parking lot.
Ressler asked to go to page 9 of the cumulative concept,which shows a backset view of what the building
looks like from afar. He thinks that was helpful for him based on setbacks to look at it from that setting.
He noted there was a proposal last month and Ressler was very much against it due to the very mild
setbacks...he thinks it was 10 feet. This one is proposed at 35 feet and asked if that is correct.
Barnhart believes they met the requirements of 50 feet to Wayzata Boulevard and 35 feet to the rear and
the side. The proposed plans show 82 feet to Wayzata Boulevard, 36 from the side, and 35 from the rear,
so it meets the requirements from a setback perspective. He clarified it meets the prescribed minimum
setbacks. There is also a clause in there that the setbacks should be at least the height of the building. If
they use the existing grades and measure at 41 feet or so, then they are too close to the property line at 35
and 36 feet.
Ressler stated if they were to grant a variance on height that would be an important part that they would
need along with that.
Kirchner agrees.
Erickson pointed out that directly north of this property is the sugar woods neighborhood,a very high-level,
professional neighborhood and years ago he saw homes listed in there for$800,000-$900,000 and he is sure
they have gone up since then. The owners are professional people and as this moves forward, they will
make themselves heard,he is sure.
Kirchner said to McCutcheon's point regarding the setbacks,he does have concern over how limited green
space there is,with what appears to be potential drainage,manhole cover styles in the back and side yards.
He would better like to understand the 10%of recreational space and how that is being accomplished.
Todd Mohagen, Mohagen Hansen Architecture and Interiors, clarified they did not really think about the
green space at this point. They were very concerned about the height limitation. He noted they have a
surplus of parking because of what the design was previously, so they can take out parking stalls and make
more greenspace.In the back,the manhole covers are just there to change the direction for the underground
system and there are ways to deal with that, also. Mr. Mohagen said from a technical standpoint they can
increase green space and deal with the amenity space in a very easy way. To the architects,the big thing is
what Barnhart said...the height. With the sloped roof, in looking at the section that is at the bottom, he
pointed out on screen the neighboring houses are to scale,it is setback,there is heavy green space in between
this project and that. The scale is very appropriate for this type of lot in his experience.
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Libby noted they have looked at some similar projects that are different architecturally but have essentially
a compound-type structure. He asked if the architect,in order to enhance the green space,to put something
recreational,a family-oriented type area in.
Mr.Mohagen said absolutely,yes.
Libby asked if they have a future vision of screening and tree cover as this is Orono which is a very rural
community.
Mr. Mohagen said yes, and that is helpful for the project, to have landscaping around the project is
imperative.
Mr. Richardson said on the back side of the property there is a vacated easement for a future road that will
not be going in because they sold Cliff Often the one section of that road. He assumes they will eventually
vacate that property.
Barnhart would not make that assumption but said they can certainly look into it a little more.
Mr. Richardson said it is about a 40-foot section and half would go to Orono Woods and have to tot his
project.
Barnhart said not necessarily and it is probably something they need to dig into a bit more.
Ressler thanked the Applicant and hopes the feedback was useful to the project.
10.UPDATE ON MARCH 8,2021 CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Barnhart noted the Commission was fairly busy last month. There were a number of actions the
Commission approved and most were done by consent. Approvals by the City Council:the variance at 746
Tonkawa Road, the vacation of the unimproved alley at 1121 North Arm, CUP for plumbing at 1150
Pineview, MUSA expansion for public works facility, Pillar Homes variance at 3220 Navarre, average
lakeshore setback variance at 1825 Lakeside Trail, CUP for LuLu's pizza, variance at 1260 Spruce Place,
CUP for the Day Nursery, Comp Plan Amendment, Rezoning, and Master Development Plan for David
Weekley. The Council denied the variance at 133 Chevy Chase on a 5-0 vote. The concern the Council
had was it did not seem the practical difficulties were met; Barnhart received some feedback from the
Council to really make sure they look at the practical difficulties objectively and critically because that is
what approvals must be based on. The Council did not support the 12 duplex buildings next to the Fire
Station—they would rather see a density closer to the 3 units/acre versus the middle of that range of 3-10
units/acre.
Libby was the liaison between the City Council and the Commission and a remark was made by the Council
as a uniform compliment to all the Commissioners who are working hard, solving a lot of problems, and
giving a lot of guidance to the Council.
McCutcheon noted they do not always have to agree with Council.
Ressler agreed and said just because they do not agree does not mean they are wrong.
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McCutcheon stated they are still friends.
Libby said the Council let him stay the whole meeting.
11.PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR/VICE CHAIR ELECTIONS
Barnhart said the Chair and Vice Chair positions generally rotate every two years. The present two-year
term for Chair Ressler and Vice Chair Erickson expire after this month. Barnhart is looking for individuals
interested in leaving the Commission to volunteer and the Commission moving and seconding a nomination
as a recommendation to the City Council. The Council would confirm the proposal or put their own in
front of the Commission, similar to how they do recommendations now. Barnhart believes three of the
Commissioner's terms expire at the end of March: Mr.Ressler,Mr. Erickson,and Mr. Libby. He will put
their names back on for Council reinstatement at the March 29,2021 meeting.
Ressler is not going to nominate or vote because of the vacating Chair,he does not want to skew any votes,
and thinks it is a strange thing because all of the people on this Commission are certainly valuable for this
position. Ressler opened the floor for nominations or volunteers.
Libby moved to nominate Kirchner for the new Chair.
Kirchner accepted the nomination and thanked Libby for nominating him.
Erickson seconded the nomination of Kirchner for the new Chair.
Bollis moved to nominate Ressler for Vice Chair.
Ressler accepted the nomination.
VOTE: Ayes: 6,Nays: 0,Abstain 1 (Ressler).
Ressler congratulated Kirchner and knows the Commission will be in great hands. He appreciates the
recommendations and thinks all of their contributions have been appreciated, clearly by the Council's
feedback and he looks forward to continuing in the future. He thanked them all for serving.
ADJOURNMENT
Gettman moved, Libby seconded, to adjourn the Planning Commission Meeting. VOTE: Ayes 7,
Nays 0.
The Orono Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
ATTEST:
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Scott Kirch , Chair
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