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MINUTES OF THE CITY OF ORONO PARK
COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON MAY 3, 1994
ATTENDANCE
The Park Commission met on the above date with the following members present: Chair Richard
N. Flint, Alex Vongries, Susan Wilson, and Lili McMillan. Robert Howells, Sherokee Ilse,
and James White were absent. John Gerhardson, Public Works Director and Recorder Barbara
Anderson represented staff. Councilmember JoEllen Hurr was also present. Chair Flint called
the meeting to order at 7:22 p.m.
(#1) APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MARCH 7, 1994 AND APRIL 4, 1994
Lili McMillan noted a correction on page two of the March 7, 1994 Park Commission Minutes
regarding the dollar amount being the cost of the entire study, not the first phase.
It was moved by Vongries, seconded by Wilson to approve the corrected Minutes of March 7,
1994 and the April 4, 1994 Park Commission Minutes as submitted. Ayes 4, nays 0.
(#2) APPROVAL OF PARK COMMISSION ACTION AGENDA FOR 1994
Vongries commented he felt that items such as preparing parks for summer usage and repairing
turf and the ball field at Hackberry Park were items that were done by the staff and not items
that needed to be included in the Park Commission Action Agenda. Wilson commented that
these were items on which they had received calls from residents in the past and they were
included in the agenda to keep the Park Commissioners informed of the status of these items.
Vongries commented he felt these items should be on the Park Department agenda, rather than
the Park Commission agenda. Flint noted that the Action Agenda was requested by the City
Administrator in order to create a plan for what the Park Commission was going to do and what
the staff would be expected to do for the year. He noted that there were a number of things that
others re responsible for, but that the Park Commission would receive complaints if these things
weren't done. Discussion ensued regarding the type of items which should be included on the
Park Commission Action Agenda, and Flint suggested that perhaps if they assigned responsibility
for each item it would keep it in perspective. Wilson stated she viewed the agenda as a chance
to keep track of these items and she preferred to use it more as a work sheet to remind the
Commission of things that need to be done.
Vongries stated he felt that it should be re-worded to more accurately reflect what they do. He
did not feel that the Park Commission was preparing the parks for use. Hurr commented that
it might be good to put who was responsible for each item behind it, which would clarify this
issue.
Thereupon it was agreed that the Park Commission would review each item on the action agenda
and assign responsibility for that item.
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COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON MAY 3, 1994
� APPROVAL OF PARK COMMISSION ACTION AGENDA FOR 1994
(CONTINUED)
lst Quarter, 199 (January-March) Responsible Party
- Obtain proposal for park planning (done); decide upon
process; present to City Council
- Monitor ice rinks and develop proposals for improvement John
- Commence planning for Old Crystal Bay Playground; Subcommittee
obtain public input Previously Appointed
- Work with developer of Dickey property regarding Staff and Park
development of bike trail Commission
- Meet with golf course superintendent (done)
- Formalize Adopt-A-Park Program Sherokee&John(done)
- Complete plans for French Creek Preserve John & Susan
- Complete contracts with School Board and OBA for
new OBA field on school property Staff, Sherokee &
Council
- March - advertise the availability of canoe racks at Staff (done)
Summit Beach NOTE: Advertise in newsletter next fall
for spring availability
- Reorganize Park Improvement Sub-Committee (#3)
2nd Quarter, 1994 (April-June)
- Implement plans for French Creek Preserve and have Sue & John
formal opening ceremony
- Rent canoe racks at Summit Beach Staff
- Continue planning for Old Crystal Bay Playground Sub-Committee
- June meeting - Bus tour of selected parks (French Creek
Preserve, Hackberry, bike trails, Crystal Bay site, and OBA)
at 6:00 p.m.
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(#2) APPROVAL OF PARK COMMISSION ACTION AGENDA FOR 1994
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- April and May - prepare parks for summer usage Staff
- Repair turf and fall field at Hackberry Park before the Staff
t-ball season starts
- Continue planning for bike trail proposal Sub-Committee Dick,
Susan, Lili, Jim
- Initiate park planning process Park Commission,staff,
City Council
- OBA to complete Little League fields on school property Staff& Sherokee, OBA
3rd Quarter, 1994 (July-September)
- August meeting - select recipients for Friends of the Lili/Commission
Park award
- Construction of first stage of bike trail Dickey property
Developer
- Continue park planning process and analyze survey Park Commission
- Complete plans for skating rinks and take any actions Lili & Staff
necessary to prepare skating rinks
- Prepare parks for winter Staff
- Continue planning for Old Crystal Bay Playground Sub-Committee
4th Quarter, 1994 (October-December)
- Complete the Park Planning Process; recommend to Park Commission
Council
- Commence monitoring of skating rinks
Discussion ensued regarding when to present the revised agenda to the City Council. Flint
commented he felt that the Park Commission should establish a roster for Park Commissioners
to attend City Council meetings in order to better facilitate communication between the Council
and the Park Commission.
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(�#2) APPROVAL OF PARK COMMISSION ACTION AGENDA FOR 1994
(CONTINUED)
After discussion, the following roster was established:
May 9, 1994 - Alex Vongries
May 23, 1994 - Lili McMillan
June 13, 1994 - Susan Wilson
June 27, 1994 - Richard Flint
It was requested that this item be placed on the Park Commission agenda to schedule additional
Council meetings in July and August.
Vongries commented he felt the City Council should be invited to go on the bus tour that the
Park Commission has scheduled for it's June 6th meeting and stated he would invite them when
he attended their May 9th meeting. All agreed that this was a good idea.
(#3) REORGANIZATION OF PARK IMPROVEMENTS SUBCOMMITTEE
Chair Flint requested volunteers to serve on this committee. Vongries asked if it was something
that perhaps they should all be involved in rather than have a committee when one was not really
necessary. McMillan commented that if they each took a park and kept an eye on it that would
be a very effective way of keeping it up to City standards. Vongries commented he felt that the
Park Commissioners should view all the parks so they were familiar with existing conditions.
Flint commented he would like to have each Commissioner take a park in which he/she would
take particular interest. The following list was established:
McMillan: Hackberry
Flint: Summit Beach
Wilson: Crystal Bay, French Creek, Lowery Woods & Highwood Nature Trail
Vongries: Antoine, Navarre Playground, Sandy Beach
White: Casco
Ilse: Bederwood
Howells:
It was determined that this process would replace the Park Improvements Subcommittee, and it
was felt it would be much more effective. Vongries suggested that perhaps they should have
a form to keep track of their inspection observations and provide a record of each park. Hurr
suggested that perhaps they could take pictures of each park depicting existing conditions and
put them in a book, which would be available to people to see what each park contains. She felt
that if they could accomplish this prior to the bus tour, it would make it easier to familiarize
people with those parks that they were not in the habit of frequenting. McMillan commented
that an up to date survey of the parks and amenities would need to be done for Shardlow
anyway, and she felt that the Commission doing this would save money.
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(�#4) UPDATE ON PARK PLANNING PROCESS - MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL
Chair Flint inquired about the status of the survey and Gerhardson passed out the questionnaire
which is proposed to be used. After reviewing the questions, Vongries suggested that the word
"elected" be deleted from the fifth line on page 1, as he felt that was unnecessary. He noted he
was concerned that the list of activities should be rotated so that the people being surveyed were
not biased by the order in which they were listed. He also wanted to include hunting on the list.
Discussion ensued regarding the possibility of when people responded affirmatively to a certain
activity, to just have the surveyor ask them where they usually do this activity, rather than go
through the entire list a second time. The Commission felt that question #73 should be kept as
a follow-up question.
Vongries commented that he felt the questions regarding whether the citizens would like more
facilities provided and the potential cost of providing those facilities should be at the beginning
of the survey rather than at the end. Hurr stated that she felt that the intent was to discern what
the people wanted in the way of facilities and amenities rather than financial issues regarding
the provision of those items.
Chair Flint commented he felt the survey was well put together and would make a good survey.
Hurr commented she would like to see a question included in the survey regarding the issue of
user fees for specific activities. Vongries suggested the following question be included at the
bottom of page 4: "If the facilities you desire were available would you be willing to pay a user
fee to have them?"
McMillan commented she felt questions #91 and #92 should be one question, as the way it was
presented was confusing. Gerhardson stated he would communicate the proposed changes in the
survey to staff and keep the Park Commission informed of the progress.
(#5) REPORT ON JOINT MEETING WITH AREA PARK COMMISSIONS AND
ORONO SCHOOL DISTRICT
McMillan stated that area Cities, including Maple Plain, Independence, and Medina have had
round table discussions about their park systems. She felt that it was very informative to hear
what other communities are doing in this area, and while they didn't get into specifics , most
of the communities are also doing surveys to determine what their residents want to have in the
way of park facilities. She stated that most Park Commissions are trying to solicit more funds
from their City Councils to implement more programs. She noted that basically the School
District was there to get more funds from the communities to run their programs. Hurr
commented that perhaps they should get on the mailing list from these neighboring communities
to receive their Park Commission Minutes which would help Orono be more informed regarding
what the other communities were doing.
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(#6) UPDATE ON PLANNING FOR OLD CRYSTAL BAY SITE
McMillan reported that the Council voted to close Prospect Avenue at the last Council meeting.
Gerhardson noted that staff will be meeting with the resident most affected by this decision to
determine where they will be able to remove blacktop and still leave him access to his property.
Gerhardson stated that once this has been done, the remainder of blacktop will be removed, the
area will be graded, topsoil added and then it will be seeded. He noted that staff will be
sampling the ground water for the next year to check on the contamination. He described the
lead abatement program that would be necessary if the building is to be restored to it's original
condition. He stated he would be presenting this to the City Council to find out what their
wishes were. He stated that it would be much less costly to simply demolish the building.
McMillan commented she felt that they should wait until they have the survey results before
making major decisions regarding parks or park lands. Discussion ensued regarding the Post
Office area and possible improvements that could be made in this area.
Flint commented he felt that there needed to be a fence or some type of barrier along the
roadway to keep the children safe when they were playing in the park. Gerhardson stated that
presently it was wide open and traffic had a good view of the children playing. He felt that until
decisions were made regarding the facilities which would be implemented on the site it might
be better to leave it that way. Discussion ensued regarding the ground water contamination
issue. The Park Commission felt that given the existing situation, the third parcel containing
the old City Hall building should be sold rather than become park land.
(#7) UPDATE ON PLANS FOR OBA FIELD
Chair Flint stated that the City Administrator would be talking to Neal Lawson regarding the
contract, and as soon as that was completed that OBA would begin construction.
(#8) UPDATE ON TANDEM PROPERTIES (DICKEY PROPERTY) SUBDIVISION
Gerhardson stated that the City Council would again be reviewing the Tandem Properties
Subdivision request on May 23rd. Chair Flint stated that the City Council had required the
developer to pay the park dedication fee based on the 8% of the fair market value of the
property, but allowed the area of Outlot A to be deducted from that value. However, they
declined to allow the developer credit for dedicating Outlot A to the City. He noted that the
developer was responsible for construction of the interior trails in the subdivision, and those
trails would be public trails.
(#9) OTHER BUSINESS
Chair Flint reminded the Commission that staff was no longer putting the dock out at Sandy
Beach. Gerhardson stated that they will put buoys out, but not the dock. Vongries stated that
he would be monitoring this park.
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(#9) OTHER BUSINESS (CONTINUED)
McMillan inquired if it would be possible to add steps under the trolley at Bederwood as
children had difficulty in getting access to it unless a parent assisted them. Gerhardson
responded that staff would look at it.
Vongries commented that the Commission met on March 16, 1994 regarding the OBA baseball
field to have public input and there were never any Minutes submitted for that meeting. He said
that there should be some Minutes for the record. Gerhardson responded he would look into
that.
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Wilson, seconded by McMillan to adjourn the meeting. The meeting was
adjourned at 9:45 p.m., and a Work Session followed.
Respectfully submitted,
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Richard N. Flint, Chair
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