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MINUTES OF THE PARK COMMISSION MEETING UF MAl' 4, 1993
ATTENDANCE
The Park Commission met on the above date with the following
members present : Dick Flint , Susan Wiison , Lili McMilian , Robert
Howe I I s and J i m Wh i te . Sherokee I I se and A I ex Vongr i es were absent .
John Gerhardson , Public Works Director and Teri Naab , Recorder
represented City staff . Chair Flint called the meeting to order at
7 : 19 p.m.
(#1 ) APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Wilson asked that Page 5 , Paragraph 4, be changed to read :
"Vongries, McMillan and Ilse were assigned to evaluate park
equipment . . . "
It was moved by Wilson , seconded by Howells , to approve the minutes
of the April 5 , 1993 Park Commission meeting as amended . Ayes 4,
nays 0 .
INTRODUCTION
Chair Flint introduced Jim White , the newly appointed Park
Commission member and asked him to describe his background .
White said he is employed by MCDA, a development agency for the
City of Minneapolis. He is a member of the Minneapolis Bike
Advisory Board , and served on the Hennepin Parks Board for three
years . He said he lives on Casco Point with his wife and four
children . He is knowtedgeable about municipal financing laws .
Chair Flint noted White ' s quatifications were very different than
the rest of the Members of the Commission and felt that would be
an asset .
White asked each member to tell a bit about themselves .
McMillan reported she has been on the Commission for one year , has
a conservationist background , and is a sports-oriented person . She
stays at home to care for her two children .
Howells stated he taught history and coached in Hopkins for 29
years , and has been retired for 6 years . He lives near Saga Hill ,
and has five children . He has done volunteer work for Hennepin
Parks .
Wilson said she has dedicated her time to the volunteer sector , and
current I y i s the Cha i r of the Nature Conservancy. She i s the former
Vice Chair of the Arboretum Board . She is a biker and roller
blader . She lives on Crystal Bay off of County Road 51 and has
three children .
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INTRODUCTION - CONT.
Chair Flint stated he has been the Chair of the Park Commission for
the past three years and has been with the Commission for
approximately 6 years . He is an attorney.
(#2) LOWRY WOODS - NATURE Conservancy
Chair Flint explained that the Nature Conservancy may be interested
in conveying to Orono the Lowry Woods Nature Preserve if Orono
agrees to maintain the area in its natural state . He noted that he
and Wilson have conveyed to the Nature Conservancy that purchasing
the property is not an option for the City .
Wilson explained the area is a segment of a maple/basswood forest ,
but is too small for the Nature Conservancy to maintain for
specific species . As part of their strategic plan , they are
divesting themselves of many of their small parcels .
Chair Flint inquired about access to the area.
Gerhardson reported due to current development of property to the
east and south , the City has required that access be provided to
the Lowry Woods from Bayside Road .
Wilson noted there are many wildflowers on the property.
Chair Flint noted this property does not abut the Luce Line Trail .
He noted that the property is wooded . It is high land on the south
sloping northward to a field area near the Luce Line . He said
access to the Luce Line could be obtained with an easement over the
parcel to the north .
McMillan questioned the City' s obligation if the property were
donated and asked about walking trails .
Wilson said she felt the Conservancy would insist that the area
not be developed and must be maintained as natural land . She did
feel they would not object to walking trails through the property .
White asked if the area is fenced , and questioned the cost of
maintenance and the necessity of such to disallow neighboring
properties to use the property as a parking area.
Wilson noted it is partially fenced .
Chair Flint said the City has many parks abutting residential areas
with no fencing to prohibit its use and the City has not
experienced problems to his knowledge. He suggested they add this
area to their scheduled park tour .
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LOWRY WOODS - CONT.
White said he would suppiy them with areai photos of the area.
Wilson noted the property drastically slopes from south to north .
She added this area is much like Woldsfeld Woods . She said the
Nature Conservancy has not maintained the area for the last 15
years and she expected little cost associated with maintenance .
White asked if a survey has been conducted of the trees and
wildlife .
Wilson said to her knowledge there is not a survey on the wildlife
in the area.
White suggested that may be helpful in determining walking trail
locations . He noted they may be able to get a volunteer from the
County to provide the survey.
Chair Flint questioned whether they should hold an informational
meeting for the neighbors .
Wilson suggested they do so after they have obtained more
information .
McMillan recommended they study the possibility of access to the
Luce Line .
Gerhardson said he would determine the name of the owner of the
parcel to the north .
Chair Flint felt there were pluses and minuses to tieing this area
to the Luce Line . He felt the area should be maintained as a
neighborhood nature area.
McMillan felt walking trails would not be needed if the area were
not publicized . She questioned the need for parking .
Howells asked what will happen with the property if Orono does not
accept .
Wilson said the Nature Conservancy is determined to dispose of the
property and probably will find another recipient or sell it .
Chair Flint felt Orono probably could do a better job of
maintaining the area, and suggested the involvement of neighbors .
Wilson felt they should develop trails for bird watchers . She said
she has parked on Bayside Road and walked in to the property.
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LOWRY WOODS - CONT.
Gerhardson noted the private drive will soon be upgraded to a road
and parking may be feasible along that area.
McMillan inquired about the cost of transferring the land .
Wilson said she was told it would cost the City $1 .00 for the
transfer .
It was moved by Howells , seconded by White , to recommend pursuing
the option to acquire the Lowry Woods Nature Preserve from the
Nature Conservancy, subject to review at the park tour and comments
received by neighboring property owners . Ayes 5 , nays 0 .
(#3) DAKOTA RAIL LINE RECREATIONAL TRAIL
McMillan reported she and Chair Flint attended a meeting of 20
people from surrounding communities to discuss this possibility .
She said the line runs from west of Wayzata to Hutchinson , was
bankrupted in 1985 and subsequently purchased by a private
developer as an investment . The neighboring communities are
discussing the possibility of purchasing the line for trail
purposes .
Chair Flint said the group is asking for a statement of support .
White noted the developer is looking to make money on the
investment . He felt this would be an ideal project for the
communities to ban their funds together and request the State to
match dollars .
Chair Flint reported at a seminar held last fall on Rails to
Trails, organizations were informed to begin projects early, obtain
strong public support , ban together , and have an over-all
coordinator . He stated the communities plan to hold several
meetings at which they will be inviting State and DNR
representatives . He noted the owner cannot abandon the line until
he has obtained State approval .
Wilson felt the DNR would be a key player in development of the
trails .
Howells asked if they have discussed the issue of the City of Mound
purchasing a portion of the trail for parking .
McMillan indicated the City of Mound would like to incorporate this
area with their downtown redevelopment project but this would not
interfere with the trail .
Wilson felt this to be an important project and suggested Orono
( end its support and help.
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DAKOTA RAIL LINE RECREATIONAL TRAIL - CONT.
It was moved by Wilson , seconded by McMillan , to recommend
supporting the acquisition of the Dakota rail line for trail
purposes , and to help in any way possible including supplying the
group of communities with names of people to help with the project .
Howells questioned the number of bridges along the line.
Gerhardson said there were two.
Vote: Ayes 5 , nays 0.
(#4) BIKE/HIKE TRAILS - OLD CRYSTAL BAY ROAD
Chair Flint reported a tour of the bike/hike trail and meeting has
been scheduled for May 5th at 7 : 30 a.m. with the Council and City
Engineer . They will discuss concerns such as the cost , curb and
gutter , the loss of screening , and the Hennepin Parks contract .
Wilson questioned where the trail would connect to the 10K trail
in Baker Park .
Chair Flint noted the trail will connect . He said Hennepin Parks
has agreed to pave the short section between Starkey Road and the
10K.
Wilson suggested that condition be added in the contract .
Chair Flint felt that was unnecessary as he was sure they intended
to do so.
White said their policy is that trails will be paved . He indicated
Hennepin Parks has a nursery in Crow Hassen of plants native to the
area which they would be happy to supply for planting along the
trail .
Chair Flint said plantings would need to be approved as they would
be on private property.
McMillan noted that Mayor Callahan was concerned about the curb and
gutter .
Chair Flint said he also was concerned with the cost of the overall
project , citing that this trail was costing double the average
trail because of the need to install curb and gutter . This was
be i ng done i n order to bu i I d the t ra i I on C i ty r i ght-of-way and not
on private property.
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BIKE/HIKE TRAILS - CONT.
White asked them to keep in perspective the City is only asked to
pay half of the trail . He stated it was determined that a trail
placed anywhere in the area would cost the same. He added if there
i s a t ra i I runn i ng a I ong 0 I d Crysta I Bay Road , t he road i s I ess
likely to become a feeder road for an upgraded Highway 12 .
(#5) JUNE PARK TOUR
The June Park Tour was scheduled for Tuesday, June 1 , 1993 at 6 : 00
p.m. , following the tour established at the Aprii meeting with the
addition of Lowry Woods .
(#6) HENNEPIN COUNTY BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Chair Flint referred to a letter to Mayor Callahan from Emily Ann
Staples requesting volunteers to this committee .
White suggested they contact Jan Gunther , owner of the bike shop
in Long Lake, as she may be willing to serve or may know of
someone .
FRENCH CREEK PARK
Wilson reported blue bird houses have been installed . She reported
she has requested a proposal of low maintenance items and a
planting schedule from Prairie Restoration . The estimated cost is
$800 . 00. She said she has checked with the Maple Plain Coop and the
wildflower mix is very expensive .
White said he would check with the County to see if they can supply
all or some of the necessary seeds .
Wilson requested that funds be approved at this meeting to ensure
they would not miss the appropriate planting season . She said it
is hoped they can provide the necessary plantings and seeds as
inexpensively as possible .
It was moved by White , seconded by Howells , to recommend approval
of expenditure for the planting and restoration of French Lake
Park , for an amount not to exceed $1 ,000 . 00. Ayes 5 , nays 0.
Wilson requested permission to have removed a fence bordering the
west side of the pond . AIl members agreed .
Wilson requested permission to remove trees encroaching the wetland
area. AIl members agreed .
Gerhardson said they would be closing access off to the area of new
plantings so as not to disturb the wildlife .
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(#7 ) PROGRESS
A. Hackberry Park :
Gerhardson reported this praject has not been started .
B . Summit Park :
Gerhardson reported the canoe rack is in place and the City has
received three applications . The "Canoe Launch Only" sign has
arrived and wiil be instalied shortly. The large tree near the
swimming beach has been removed and the sod in the swimming beach
area will be removed and repiaced with sand .
Wilson asked that they also remove a large rock in the center of
the canoe launch area.
Gerhardson reported that Tamarack Senior Center has been
responsible for picking up trash at this park both last year and
this .
Howells suggested a letter of commendation .
Chair Flint suggested requesting them to appear at a future
Commission meeting to accept commendation and have it reported in
the newspaper .
White explained a volunteer recognition program operated by
Hennepin Parks whereby annual recognition is given to certain
individuals or organizations and their picture is hung in the
building for a year as a reminder of the appreciation . He said the
commendation is presented at a meeting where coffee and cookies are
served .
Chair Flint suggested the annual recognition be presented to the
Tamarack Senior Center at 7 : 00 p.m. , July 6th . Gerhardson was asked
to invite the Tamarack Senior Center and the newspaper
representative to the meeting . It was suggested that they ask Ilse
to consider development of the plague to be presented in
conjunction with the "Adopt a Park" program.
Howells recommended covers be placed on all trash barrels to
prevent spillage .
(#8) WIRTJES SUBDIVISION REVIEW
Gerhardson reported this is a single lot subdivision of property
on Watertown Road , east of Cygnet Place .
It was moved by Wilson , seconded by White, to recommend park
dedication funds in lieu of dedication of park land for the Wirtjes
subdivision . Ayes 5 , nays 0.
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(#9) McCARTHY SUBDIVISION REVIEW
Gerhardson reported this is a single lot subdivision off Old Beach
Road .
It was moved by Wilson , seconded by McMillan , to recommend park
dedication funds be accepted in lieu of park land for the McCarthy
subdivision . Ayes 5 , nays 0 .
(#10) PARK MONITORING
It was decided that the park monitoring program would continue for
another month . McMillan would supply Gerhardson and White with a
copy of the forms . White volunteered to monitor Casco Swimming
Beach and Navarre Playground .
OTHER
White asked if they have considered establishment of a "Friends of
Parks" foundation , whereby contributions could be received .
Chair Flint suggested they consider the establishment of a fund
with the Minneapolis Foundation to avoid the administration cost
of maintaining our own foundation .
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Howells asked about the financial statements for the goif course .
Gerhardson reported they are not completed yet .
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McMillan volunteered to coordinate a golf outing for the Park
Commission members .
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Gerhardson reported Orono has been challenged to a softball game
by the City of Medina and Bonestroo Engineering .
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Wilson , seconded by Howells , to adjourn the regular
meeting of the Park Commission at 9 : 50 p.m.
The next meet i n9 wi I 1 be Tuesday, June 1 , 1993 at 6:00 p.m. for the
Park Tour.
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Richard Flint , Chair Person
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