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MINUTES OF THE PARK COMMISSION MEETING OF DECEMBER 7 , 1992
ATTENDANCE 7 :06 P.M.
The Park Commission met on the above date with the following
members present : Acting Chairperson Alex Vongries , Susan Wilson ,
Phil Bradley and Robert Howeils . Lili McMillan arrived at 7 : 28 p .m.
Dick Flint arrived at 8: 10 p.m. Sherokee Ilse arrived at 8: 35 p .m.
The following represented the City staff : John Gerhardson , Public
Works Director ; and Teri Naab, Recorder .
(#1 ) APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Vongries suggested changes to Page 3 , Paragraph 5 , and to Page 5 ,
Paragraph 7 .
It was moved by Wilson , seconded by Howells , to approve the minutes
of the November 2 , 1992 Park Commission meeting as amended . Ayes
4, nays 0 .
(#2) ORONO BASEBALL ASSOCIATION
Gary Larson , President of OBA, reported OBA has met with the Maple
Plain Council on November 25th to present their idea to use the
baseball field adjacent to the "Town Team" field . He noted the
presentation was received favorably. The next step will be to
present it to the Maple Plain Park Commission .
Bradley asked when the field could be expected to be completed for
use.
Larson stated , if approved , they would commence constructing the
field in the spring and it would be ready for use in the 1994
season . He added , OBA would like to move from Bederwood to the new
site the dugouts , the concession stand , and the fence if it is
deemed cost effective.
Wilson asked if Larson felt it feasible to accomplish the goals of
the fund raiser and asked how much they needed for the project .
Larson fe I t i t was feas i b l e and noted they wou I d need approx i mate I y
$20, 000.
Bradley asked if the one field in Maple Plain would handle the
projected population needs .
Larson exp� ained one field can handle a 16 team league and
currently they have 5 teams .
Bradley asked if OBA is no longer pursuing the site across from the
Orono High School .
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OBA - CONT.
Larson stated that is definitely the preferred long-term site , but
financialiy at this time OBA is in no position to pursue that
option on its own . He noted OBA has helped to improve the school
fields which they currently are using .
Vongries recommended OBA continue to think about the site near the
school as an option , and asked him to continue to think of the Park
Commission as a supporting group for that complex project .
Larson stated if the Park Commission wished to help in any way,
they might consider assisting in the moving of the buildings to the
new site . He added, this would mean that OBA would need to use
Bederwood Park for the 1993 season , and noted he felt that was the
intent of the City Council ' s resolution .
Wilson noted the Park Commission is interested in OBA making
progress toward a future plan .
Vongries asked if OBA used Bederwood Park to the level it desired
during the 1992 season .
Larson stated they would have used it much more if permitted .
McMillan arrived at this time, 7 : 28 p.m.
It was moved by Bradley, seconded by Howells, to recommend the
authorization of OBA to use the Bederwood Park for the 1993 season ,
to be considered the final year of use by OBA, conditioned upon the
same terms and conditions as approved for the 1992 season . Ayes 5 ,
nays 0.
(#3) SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT - CRYSTAL BAY SITE
Wilson reported the sub-committee (Wilson and Bradley) met with
Gerhardson to discuss some possibilities for the site, which are
presented in the memo. She noted the Post Office is to remain and
wishes to install a turnaround for better access. There is a
possibility that Prospect Avenue could be abandoned , combining
Parcels A and B. The sub-committee felt Parcel C (Council chambers
site) was not needed for park land .
Gerhardson said all buildings but the Council Chambers are
scheduled for removal .
Vongries noted the Council expects money from the Park Dedication
Fund for the Crystal Bay site , and money for razing of the
buildings .
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CRYSTAL BAY SITE - CONT.
McMilian stated at the last Council meeting , the Council decided
to put any decision regarding the site on hoid .
Gerhardson concurred and added , they have decided to schedu � e the
removal of the buildings and seed the area.
It was moved by Vongries , seconded by Bradley , to defer any
decision regarding this property, and note the Park Commission does
not have any immediate plans . Ayes 6 , nays 0.
(#4) STATUS OF PARK DEDICATION FUNDS
Gerhardson reviewed the expenditures and revenue reports submitted .
Bradley noted the lack of revenue generated during the year . He
asked that the Park Commission be supplied with a copy of the
adopted 1993 budget at the next meeting .
Wilson asked to see a comparison of revenue generated for the last
3 to 5 years . She asked about other ways to generate revenue .
Gerhardson stated the Council could propose bonding or raise the
levy limit on general taxes for specific park use.
(#5) REVIEW OF CITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM - COORDINATION WITH
PARKS & TRAIL - 1993-1995
Chair Flint explained he asked for this information because he felt
it cost prohibitive to have bike trails carry road improvements
with them. He felt it may be more effective to piggy-back bike
trails onto City road improvement projects , thus eliminating much
of the trail cost .
Gerhardson reviewed the three road projects the Council is
considering in the near future: Willow Road , Ferndale Road , and Old
Crystal Bay Road railroad bridge . He noted it is not expected they
will do the Ferndale Road improvement in 1993 . He explained, if a
trail is considered along with a road improvement , the design of
the road can be altered to accommodate that trail and the cost will
then be much less . Chair Flint noted that Ferndale Road would be
a good site for a pedestrian trail , and adjacent communities would
have to help bear the cost .
Ilse arrived at this time, 8: 35 p.m.
Chair Flint asked that the Park Commission be kept apprised of all
road improvement projects .
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(#6) BIKE/HIKE TRAILS
Chair Flint reported that , after extensive negotiations , Hennepin
County Parks has agreed to provide the following : (a) half of the
construction costs for the proposed Oid Crystal Bay Bike/Hike Trail
from Baker Park to the Luce Line up to $238,050 , ( b ) tree planting
along the trail where neighboring property owners are willing to
grant easements for the trees to be planted , and (c) 100% of the
cost of the trail extension within Baker Park so long as the City
pays ( a) the other half up to $238,050, and (b) the easement
acquisition cost . If the construction cost of the trail from Baker
Park to the Luce Line Trail exceeds $476 , 100, either party can
cancel . The County has applied for additional funding , which , if
approved , would further reduce each party' s portion of the project .
He stated the Park Commission is being urged to contribute Park
Dedication Funds toward the project , and Flint recommended to the
Park Commission offer to pay $70,000 , of which $30,000 has been
designated for land acquisition . He reported , the County has stated
i f they are requ i red to pay any add i t i ona I cost of the pro j ect ,
they just won ' t build the trail . He noted if the cost does exceed
the estimate and either party cancels , the design costs will be
split between both parties . The County feels the bids will come in
lower than the estimated cost .
It was moved by Bradley, seconded by Wilson , to recommend approval
of the compromise between the City and Hennepin Parks for funding
of the bike/hike trail and to authorize staff to draft the
appropriate contract . Chair Flint and McMillan will present the
recommendation at the next City Council meeting . Ayes 7 , nays 0 .
Bradley asked if the Council would rather have $40 ,000 from the
Park Dedication Fund for the Crystal Bay or the sewer pond site in
lieu of the use of MSA funding for the entire trail project .
Wilson suggested offering to pay $16, 000 plus the $30, 000 for land
acquisition , thus making the City' s remaining cost ($222 ,000) equal
to one year MSA funding .
It was moved by Vongries , seconded by McMillan , to recommend
authorization of expenditure of $16, 000, plus up to an additional
$30,000 for land acquisition , to be paid from the Park Dedication
Fund for the bike/hike trail . Ayes 7 , nays 0.
(#7 ) GOETTEN SUBDIVISION REVIEW
It was moved Vongries, seconded by McMillan , to recommend the City
request payment to the Park Dedication Fund in lieu of land for the
Goetten subdivision . Ayes 7 , nays 0.
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(#8) RESIGNATION PHIL BRADLEY
Chair Flint thanked Bradley for his service to the Commission and
noted they would miss him. Bradley was presented his name plate in
appreciation for his services .
(#9) NEW BUSINESS
Gerhardson reported the skating rink at Bederwood is completed .
Ilse thanked staff and noted many children in the neighborhood are
using the rink .
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Vongries asked about the survey of surrounding neighbors regarding
the expansion of Summit Beach .
Gerhardson stated it would be presented to the Commission no later
than February .
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McMillan asked if the short basketball court needs the approval of
the Council .
Gerhardson stated it would not , but they could inform the Council
of the decision to proceed .
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Ilse stated snowmobilers have been going through Bederwood Park
again .
Gerhardson stated the signs will be posted .
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Flint adjourned the regufar meeting of the Park Commission
at 9 : 27 p.m.
The next meeting will be Monday, January 4, 1993 at 7 : 00 p.m.
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ichard Flint , Chair Person
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