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MINUTES OF THE PARK COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 13, 1992
ATTENDANCE 7 : 12 P.M.
The Park Commission met on the above date with the following
members present : Chairperson Dick Flint , Susan Wilson , Stephen
Johnston , Sherokee Ilse and Phil Bradley. Alex Vongries was
absent . The following represented the City staff : John
Gerhardson , Public Works Director ; and Teri Naab , City Recorder .
Gerhardson announced that Kokal had submitted his resignation from
the Commission .
Chair Flint informed the Commission that Les Kelly had died the
previous week . He noted Kelly had served on the Commission for
many years and asked the Commission to think of an appropriate
memorial to Kelly. He suggested planting a garden or trees at the
new city facility site as a memorial .
Ilse suggested sending a letter to the editor of the Pioneer on
behalf of the Commission expressing the Commission ' s sincere
appreciation for Mr . Kelly ' s many years of dedication and service .
It was moved by Bradley, seconded by Wilson , to recognize the many
years of service given to the Commission by Les Kelly, and to
direct a letter be sent to the Pioneer for publication stating the
Commission ' s appreciation to him. Ayes 5 , nays 0 .
(#1 ) APPROVAL OF MINUTES
It was moved by Ilse , seconded by Wilson , to approve the minutes
of the regular meeting of the Park Commission held on January 6 ,
1992 . Ayes 4, nays 0. Johnston abstained as he was not in
attendance .
(#3) MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS BIKETHON - MAY 9, 1992
Tom Hessler , representative for the Multiple Sclerosis bikethon ,
was present . He explained the bikethon will be held May 9 , 1992 .
It i s a 50 m i l e b i ke r i de . He stated they wou I d I i ke to use Summ i t
Park as a rest stop for the bikers . This would entail the use of
2 tables , satellites and 6 volunteers . He noted there are about
1 , 000 riders, staggered at 10-12 miles apart . The hours of park
usage would be appropriately 11 : 00 a.m. to 2 :00 p.m. He stated
they would provide motorcycle escorts and emergency vehicles .
Wilson noted concern about the bikers using Old Long Lake Road as
it is very narrow and curved .
Hessler explained the motorcycle escorts will be in charge of
keeping the bikers to the side, especially in this area.
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MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS BIKETHON - CONT.
Ilse asked about the motorcycles on the Luce Line .
Hessler noted they have been granted a speciai use permit .
Chair Flint questioned Hessler about cieaning up the park area
after use.
Hessler noted that the vo ► unteers will clean up the area and leave
it as clean if not cleaner when they leave. He stated they will
provide their own dumpsters .
Chair Flint asked if the park would be large enough to accommodate
this size group.
Gerhardson felt that was not a problem and noted the Police
Department was more concerned with the traffic on Old Long Lake
Road .
Wilson felt they should consider closing the road to vehicular
traffic.
It was moved by Wilson , seconded by Bradley, to authorize the use
of Summit Park for the Multiple Sclerosis Bikethon to be held on
May 9 , 1992 . Ayes 5 , nays 0 .
(#3) 1992 OBA SCHEDULE BEDERWOOD BALL DIAMOND
(#4) REVIEW PLAN OF ORONO SCHOOL PROPERTY
Gary Larson , OBA representative, was present . He stated there had
not been complaints regarding the use of Bederwood Ball Diamond in
` the previous year . He reviewed the conceptual master plan for the
property focated at the northwest corner of Old Crystal Bay Road
North and County Road 6 . He stated that since the last review of
the plan , the ice arena had been moved from the easterly area,
further south , to facilitate a flatter area for the ball diamonds .
Larson stated the Hockey Association has been made aware of the
change and is currently reviewing the new site for feasibility.
He noted access to the ball fields and ice arena would be from
County Road 6 .
Larson noted the School Board has approved the sale of the property
to the Hockey Association , and because of a Joint Powers Agreement ,
would allow the OBA to use the land for ball fields without actual
purchase of the property . He noted the Hockey Association
currently has funding to purchase the property, put up boards and
lights and purchase a zamboni .
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1992 OBA SCHEDULE - CONT.
Johnston explained the entire plan and noted how many of the
changes had occurred and why . He stated that bike trails could be
incorporated within the plan . He pointed out that four bail fieids
have been developed , two of which are partially within the eastern
privately owned property, which would need to be requested as park
dedication land when developed in the future.
Larson noted that the School has purchased the eastern half of the
property, which is important to the OBA as that is where the ball
fields would be developed .
W i I son asked i f there wou I d be enough I and f rom the park ded i cat i on
request on the property to the east to develop a trail system.
Johnston felt there would be enough land .
Chair Flint noted that it is imperative to tie the bike trail to
the trail to the east on the Shadowood Farms development .
W i I son asked that the connect i ng t ra i I be shown on the master p I an .
Larson stated that they are currently waiting for an approval from
the Hockey Association on the new location for the ice arena. He
explained they need to develop the cost of excavation of the ball
fields . He pointed out they will be requesting funding from the
Park Commission in the near future .
Chair Flint felt it appropriate that a Joint Powers Agreement
between the school district and the OBA be established .
Johnston felt it appropriate for all four parties to enter into
that agreement .
Wilson asked about maintenance of the ball fields .
Larson explained the OBA would be responsible for maintenance , and
the school would be al � owed use of the ball fields during the day.
Wilson suggested that surrounding communities within the school
district be requested to contribute park dedication funds .
Isle suggested they approach the Lions club .
Larson noted they are interested in helping to fund the project .
He stated the immediate need is a replacement for Bederwood Ball
Diamond .
Johnston asked if the fields would be irrigated .
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1992 OBA SCHEDULE - CONT.
Larson indicated they would be irrigated , with that issue being the
most difficult to resolve . He did state that when the ice arena
is built , the Hockey Association will be required to connect to
municipal sewer and water , and at that point , the OBA may be able
to connect to the municipal system.
Chair Flint stated he was bothered by additional accesses on to
County Road 6 .
Johnston indicated separate accesses may not be necessary to serve
both facilities .
Larson advised that he would seek an estimate from the contractor
working on the City facilities for the excavation of the fields .
He stated they wou I d I i ke to be ab l e to p I ant the grass seed i n the
spring of 1992 .
Chair Flint asked if the fields would be ready for use for the 1993
season and Larson felt they could be ready.
Larson announced a Joint Park Commission meeting to be held on
February 25 , 1992 , which will be not-specific to this site , but
rather cover an overall plan .
Ilse felt that meeting could be used to present this proposal .
Johnston observed it may be a year before the field has matured to
a point of use and felt they could wait on development of the
parking lot untit such time. He noted that the City requires
commercial businesses to provide a paved parking lot and felt that
the OBA may be required to provide a paved lot also.
Chair Flint asked about the proposed future building for the
school .
Larson explained that is for long range planning , and will be
realized only if the school district grows . He stated the school
is preparing for a bond issue to be used for the general fund ,
which may provide funds for this project .
Ilse asked if the cost could be estimated by the meeting of
February 25th .
Larson stated that when the ice arena was proposed for the site ,
the excavation cost was estimated at $36 ,000, which also involved
footings for the building .
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1992 OBA SCHEDULE — CONT.
Johnston felt $30, 000 should cover the grading , seeding , irrigation
and well costs .
Chair Flint supported the plan and noted there was not a need to
send onto Counci ) at this time for approval .
It was moved by Ilse, seconded by Bradley, to approve the
conceptual master plan as a joint effort between the school
district , the Hockey Association , the OBA and the City of Orono,
and to support the plan in any way possible . Ayes 5 , nays 0.
Gerhardson reported that the Commission should inform the Council
as soon as possible of the plan and the possible joint powers
agreement .
Larson advised the Commission to inform the Council to avoid any
future surprises . He stated , if the plan is approved , the Hockey
Association would need to get conditional use approval for their
arena.
Gerhardson suggested they inform the Council to find out how they
stand on this project .
Larson asked that both Bederwood Ball Diamond use and the
conceptual master plan be reviewed at the same time . He noted
Bederwood Ball Diamond would be used exactly as the previous year .
Chair Flint pointed out that prior to review of the Bederwood
issue, the neighbors had been notified and he suggested they do the
same .
Ilse agreed and felt the neighbors were excited to see progress
towards the development of other fields .
Wilson suggested a letter stating the ball schedule be sent to the
neighbors in lieu of prior notification of review before the
Commission . She suggested they be informed of the OBA' s proposed
plan .
Johnston felt it appropriate to request input from the neighbors
prior to review.
Chair Flint asked that Larson submit a letter of request for use
of Bederwood Ball Diamond for the 1992 season , stating the
schedule, which the City will send out to neighbors . He directed
Johnston and Larson to attend the February 24th meeting of the
Council to inform them of the conceptual master plan .
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1992 OBA SCHEDULE - CONT.
It was moved by Ilse , seconded by Wilson , to direct staff to send
written notice to neighboring properties regarding the use of
Bederwood Ball Diamond for the 1992 ball season . Ayes 5 , nays 0.
Johnston agreed to try and attend the joint Park Commission meeting
to be held February 25th .
Ilse thanked Johnston and Loucks for all the time they have
dedicated in the development of the master plan .
Johnston suggested that when the plan is closer to being realized ,
the property owner of the parcel to the east shouid be informed of
the City' s intent to request park dedication land , and of the
overall plan . He felt the ball diamond lights may be an issue .
Gerhardson indicated the Council may not approve ball diamond
lights in a residential neighborhood .
Ilse added that �arson should be informed of the MS Biketon , which
will pass near Bederwood Park . She noted if the OBA has scheduled
their opening tournament , their may be a traffic problem.
(#5) PROGRESS REPORT BIKE/HIKE TRAIL PLAN OLD CRYSTA� BAY RD N
Gerhardson noted he had talked to the County and they wished to set
up a meeting on February 25th .
Chair Flint noted he will be out of town that week , and suggested
the meeting to be held the first week in March .
(#6) 1992 WORK PLAN - AMENDED
Gerhardson noted this was an informational item only.
(#7 ) COUNCIL REPORT
Chair Flint noted he attended the meeting of January 13th of the
Council . He advised the Council seemed supportive of the proposal
for the sewer plant property, but delayed action until the
shoreland regulations have been adopted and the subdivision
moratorium rescinded .
Gerhardson noted the Planning Commission stated they do not want
any portion of the property sold for development and felt the
parcel should be retained as park land .
Chair Flint informed the Commission that the Council authorized
planning for use of this park for the 1992 season .
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MINUTES OF THE PARK COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 13, 1992
COUNCIL REPORT - CONT.
Wilson feit the most important issue is to get the water level
raised , and noted this should be done with professionai help. She
suggested they wait with other improvements until they what that
level will be in the spring .
Bradley felt they could mow a path around the lagoon .
Chair Flint agreed and added that Public Works would do the
maintenance .
Gerhardson suggested they also ensure that the parking area be in
good shape.
Wilson asked about the compost stored on site . She felt that
cleaning up of the area was a high priority.
Gerhardson noted the compost area will be taken care of . He stated
that realistically the Public Works Department would still be using
the property until late fall of 1992 . He suggested they consider
hours the park would be open , and noted people probably would park
by the gate at the entrance and walk back onto the property.
Wilson felt the area would be more attractive when the Public Works
Department was gone , and that would give a year for the water level
to go up.
Chair Flint noted he would like to see the area more accessible .
Gerhardson advised they will start mowing the area and perhaps
filling where needed .
Chair Flint noted that many of the Sandy Beach neighbors were
present at the Council meeting . He stated the Council adopted the
Park Commission ' s recommendation .
Chair Flint requested the Council to consider granting the use of
the CDBG funds for the year for development of a comprehensive park
plan . The Council agreed to consider .
Gerhardson noted the public hearing has been scheduled for March
9 , 1992 . He noted there were other requests for nominal amounts
from the usual requesting service agencies . The total amount of
funds for the year is $26, 200 .
Wilson asked if that would be enough for the entire plan .
Johnston noted that it may be or funding may need to be requested
the following year .
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(#8) REVIEW OF PLAN FOR UPGRADE OF BEACHES, PARKS, ETC. - SIGNS
Chair Flint asked if the Commission wished to table as Vongries was
absent .
Wilson asked if all the signs requested were in disrepair or new
signs.
Gerhardson noted it was a combination of the two.
Johnston asked how the signs would be paid for .
Gerhardson stated they would be paid for out of the maintenance
budget . He stated he would like to get going on the name signs as
they take quite a while for delivery.
It was moved by Johnston, seconded by Isle, to approve purchase of
as many of the proposed signs as the budget allows . Ayes 5 , nays
0 .
Gerhardson advised the estimates provided may not be accurate.
Wilson asked if there was a trail through the Highwood Nature
Trail . She felt it looked overgrown .
Gerhardson noted it was planned that way, and noted the City does
not cut back the brush .
Johnston felt it may be worthwhile to review the situation .
(#9) DEVELOP PLAN FOR SEWER POND PROPERTY (NEW NAME)
Chair Flint asked the Commission members to consider a name for the
sewer pond property.
(#10) CRYSTAL BAY PLAYGROUND
Chair Flint reminded the Commission that the Crystal Bay park has
been tabled and will be done in conjunction with the comprehensive
park plan .
(#11 ) OTHER ITEMS
Johnston informed the Commission of a new law which became effect
January 1 , 1992 that requires all playground equipment to be
handicapped accessible .
Gerhardson advised that he is awaiting a written opinion on the law
and direction on how to proceed .
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MINUTES OF THE PARK COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 13, 1992
OTHER ITEMS - CONT.
Johnston explained Maple Grove has reviewed a cushioning device to
facilitate the law and has determined it will cost the City
approximately $2 , 000 ,000 to upgrade all their parks . He estimated
sand to be at $ . 25 per s . f . and th i s product at $1 3 . 00 per s. f .
He stated that it would cost approximately $25 , 000 to provide the
necessary device under the $15 , 000 playground equipment for
Bederwood Park .
Gerhardson noted he intends to proceed as if the law is not in
effect .
Johnston stated they are also required to provide activity areas
within the equipment for the handicapped . He asked if these issues
should be addressed in the request for bids for playground
equipment for Bederwood Park .
Gerhardson noted the bids are ready to go out and he is just
waiting for the written opinion .
Chair Flint asked if the Commission members wanted to schedule a
park tour .
Gerhardson suggested that they do as there will be two new members ,
and some on the Commission have not been on tour . The meeting was
set for May 5, 1992 at 6: 00 p.m. Gerhardson is to arrange for the
use of the Westonka Seniors bus .
ADJOURNMENT 9:50 P.M.
It was moved by Wilson , seconded by Bradley, to adjourn the regular
meeting of the Park Commission at 9 : 50 p .m. Ayes 5 , nays 0 .
The next meeting will be Monday, March 2 , 1992 at 7 :00 p.m. in the
Council Chambers .
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ichard Flint , Chair Person
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