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' MINUTBS OF THE REGULAR ORONO PARK COMMISSION MBETING
HELD MARCH 6, 1990
ATTENDANCE 7:35 P.M. -
The Park Commission met on the above date with the following
members present: Bruce Kokal, Philip Bradley, James Gilbert and
Lee Erger. The following represented the City staff : Public
Works Director Gerhardson. The following persons were absent:
Lester Kelley, Richard Flint, and Alexander Vongries.
APPROVAL OF MINLTTES -
Gilbert moved, Erger seconded to approve the minutes of the
February 9, 1990 Park Commission meeting.
PARR COMMISSION MEMBER FROM CITY OF PLYIrIODTH
Eric Blank, Director of Parks and Recreation for the City of
Plymouth, appeared before the Commisson at the request of the
Commission to explain the Parks and Recreation Program for the
City of Plymouth.
Mr. Blank stated that the City of Plymouth contracted with a
consultant to prepare a comprehensive Parks and Recreation Plan
for the City of Plymouth. The study started in 1981 and was
completed in 16 months at a cost of $32,000 (survey cost $7,000,
100 questions).
There were four major elements of the study:
1 . Parks (future needs )
2 . Trail system
3. Lakes and streams
4 . Existing parks
The park system was categorized into neighborhood parks
which consisted of a community playfield, organized activity and
close to major roadways. City parks addressed wetlands and lakes
(Medicine Lake and Parkers Lake) .
The bike/hike trails received the following classifications:
Class I - 8' bituminous separated trail adjacent to major
thoroughfares.
Class 2 - paved shoulders adjacent to roadway.
Class 3 - residential streets, low volume traffic.
The study also addressed the parks already developed and how
, they compared to future development.
Eric stated that they have built 17 parks in the last 10
years. He also stated that the procedure they followed required
them to prepare a request for proposa 1 (RFP) and have each f irm
attend a Park Commission meeting for interview. Funding was
available at the time of their development, not so accessible
today.
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MINUTES OF THB REGOLAR ORONO PARR COMMISSION MEETING
HELD MARCH 6, 1990
The City of Plymouth currently budgeted l.l million dollars
per year for maintenance of their Parks/Recreation Bike/Hike
trail system.
Lakeville sets out 150 per unit for trails. Plymouth
currently has a flat fee of 850 per unit for Park Dedication Fee.
EURASION MIL-FOIL OFF LOADING RBQUEST LMCD -
Mr. Norm Paurus of the LMCD requested use of Lydiard Swim
Beach for offloading of mil-foil for up to three days during a
one week period of the summer of 1990. Bradley moved, Erger
seconded, to appprove the Lydiard Swim Beach site contingent upon
adjacent neighbors approval and no adverse impact on swimming
activities. Motion was approved 4-0.
ORONO BASEBALL ASSOCIATION -
Orono Baseball Association request for improvements for
Bederwood Park Baseball Diamond.
Phil Bradley, Chair, explained to the audience the park
system in Orono and the Park Dedication Fee schedule and that in
1989 the Park Commission conducted a survey of the park needs in
Orono and the results were available should anyone be interested
in reviewing them.
Phil then explained the request from the Orono Baseball
Association and outlined the concerns of the neighbors at the
March 6th, Council meeting. The meeting was then opened for
Public comments.
Sherokee Isle - read from a petition signed by 58 citizens -
see attached.
Debbie Lewis from the Orono Soccer League stated that they
currently use the outfield of the ball diamond and would not want
to loose that site for soccer. She stated that they currently
have a roster of all children from the Orono School District and
use the f ie ld from September 9 - October 21. Debbie estimates
that the total enrollment in the program could reach 400 children
in the very near future. The Soccer League has used Bederwood
for the last two years as well as Hackberry Park.
Steve Whitman stated he was concerned about a loud speaker
' exclusive use, and impact on the community. He and his wife have
lived on Eileen Street adjacent to Bederwood since 1987 and has
noticed increased use in the park in the last few years.
Dave Isle - was concerned about exclusive use and wanted to
know where he could go for a pick up game.
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MINDTES OF THE REGDLAR ORONO PARR COMMISSION MEETING
HELD MARCH 6, 1990
Chairman Bradley stated that he had talked to Brian
Bergstrom at Orono Community Education and was informed that the
Orono Campus has:
2 - 90 ' Base line diamonds,
7 - Smaller fields for softball
4 - Smaller diamonds at Maple Plain Elementary
On site available at school but would require costly
grading.
Phil also talked to Bill Fenholt at the Orono school and was
informed that the recently purchased property on the east side of
Old Crystal Bay Road would accommodate a little league field and
other sports functions but would not be ready for development for
another 2-4 years. A site plan is being developed by the school
but may not be ready for another year.
John Meridith - Why do they need permanent structures and
concession stand.
Pam Gregory - Concerned about permanent structures.
Dave Isle - Wanted to know size of Little League vs
softball.
Phyllis Dunn - Concerned about impact on neighborhood
concession stand will be attractive nuisance.
Rich Anderson - Park should be used to serve the community.
Gary Connell - What if field is not improved to Little
League standards.
Dave Fritz - is there a field at the school.
Gary Larson from the Orono Baseball Association addressed
the above concerns with the following comments.
Prior to this year Orono School District children used the
Mound facilities, Mound's enrollment has increased to the point
that they had to tell Orono to find their own facilities. Orono
Baseball Association has received sanction from the Little League
organization but they must comply with criteria of the national
Little League Association, such as dugouts. Is very safety
orientated thereby the need for fencing, dugouts etc. In other
words they must comply with the standards or they do not receive
approval. The concession stand/press box is being requested
because they must pay younger children for maintenance and pay
for the umpire to officiate the games, the concession stand
profits are the only income to the league.
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MINUTBS OF THE REGULAR ORONO PARR COMMISSZON MEETING
HELD MARCH 6, 1990
The dugouts , fencing and concession stand are being
constructed permanently to avoid code violations and safety
concerns. All of the structures can be removed if necessary when
Little League moves to another site in the future. The outfield
can be used for soccer in the fall. The Little League has
requested and received confirmation of $15 ,000 from the Orono
Lions Club to perform the necessary improvements.
The question of using $15,000 at this site versus using the
more permanent site on school property is a matter of economics.
The cost for grading also at the school site could be $15 ,000 and
total development of a ball diamond area could be $50,000. They
cannot raise that kind of money to accomplish this now, in
addition there must be a site plan approved for the school
property which may be a year away.
Park Commission, Gilbert showed the Commission and the
audience a proposal prepared by the Orono Hockey Association
which showed a hockey arena and ball diamonds on the Orono school
property.
After further discussion and comments the following motion
was made by Gi 1 bert second by Koka 1 to approve the proposa 1 by
the Orono Baseball Association contingent upon the following:
1. No concession stand (concessions can be sold but only
from a mobile unit )
2 . No lights
3 . No public address system
4. Parking lot to be expanded at City expenses (Park
Dedication funds )
5. City retain option to have Orono Baseball Association
move structures at end of term
6. Orono Baseball Association to provide affidavit of
insurance
7 . Annual review to approve/deny use of ball diamond
8. Orono Baseball Association allowed exclusive use of
ball diamond Monday through Friday, 2 p.m. till dark, April 15 -
July 15, 1990
9. Orono Baseball Association to be amenable to other uses
of ball diamond if possible soccer etc.
10. Orono Baseball Association to post a schedule at the
site
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MINQTSS OF THE REGULAR ORONO PARR COMMISSION MEETING
HELD MARCH 6, 1990
Motion approved 4-0
Park Commission's recommendation to be presented to the
Orono Council on Monday March 12, 1990, 7:00 p.m.
ADJODRNMBNT 10:30 P.M.
The regular Park Commission meeting was adjourned at10 :30
p.m. Erger moved Gilbert second to adjorn. Motion approved.
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