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From: Melanie Curtis
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:26 AM
To: 'Mark'
Subject: Follow Up-Several
Attachments: admin@ci.orono.mn.us_20120131_105828.pdf
Good morning Mark—I hope I can get caught up on follow up I owe you on a few properties with one email. If I miss
something please let me know. We can discuss any of these further if you would like.
-Melanie
Subdivision at ON Nol M Arm Drive:
The 3 lot configuration we looked at a couple weeks ago appears to result in a 30'wide access outlot for a private drive
for 2 lots and one lot accessing off of North Arm. It appears to be creating a situation with 2 back lots, which is not
permitted (Remember the Dayton plat? Not exactly the same situation but basic premise...). While the two lakeshore lots
would technically meet the dimensional requirements for new lots neither would have frontage on North Arm. Without
frontage on North Arm one would have to be created as a back lot(with back lot dimensional standards) or all would
have to access off of a 50'wide private road outlot with culdesac. Without a private road for all three lots I think the
property owner should focus on a 2 lot subdivision.
ff:
I understand you spoke with Mike yesterday briefly about the bluff analysis. Mike's analysis appears to agree with your
analysis in at least the location of the top of bluff for the central portion of the lot. Thank you for humoring us on that as
we are pretty cautious regarding bluff calculations etc... I think going forward we can use the analysis you've provided.
Having said that and as I indicated in our meeting, I am still hesitant to be too supportive of setback variances from the
30'bluff setback and 50'street/rear setback for development of the property. I would be really unlikely to support any
bluff setback variance. Based on the building pad the property owner is hoping to market, a very substandard street/rear
yard setback would be necessary. I know the street is a very narrow and does not have a formal culdesac, but I don't
think there will be overwhelming staff support for much of a rear setback variance either considering most of the
neighborhood is more conforming and it would be out of character to encroach that close to the"street'.
LL rearrangement/subdivision:
One question that isn't clear for me.... Does the owner of the intend to bui/danything on the portion of
Outlot A they plan to acquire?
The way we see it is that because Outlot A is by definition an outlot it cannot be developed without subdividing it to make
it buildable. Our preference would be to replat the entire property as described below in #1 (and maybe my attached
drawing will help explain).
1. The cleanest way is to replat the entire property(both Outlot A and j� into a new Outlot and newer
qw0m lot.
2. The next potential would be to replat Outlot A into one new outlot and one new Lot to be combined withs
with ONE deed &special lot combination agreement.
3. And then there is the least desirable method... A simple lot line rearrangement to break off new outlot from
Outlot A but this does not change the non-buildable status of either outlot.... The description would be
something like" Street description plus part of Outlot A described as---"
Melanie Curtis
Planning &Zoning Coordinator
City of Orono
2750 Kelley Parkway
Orono, MN 55356
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Christine Mattson
From: Christine Mattson
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:07 PM
To: 'jcadams@ccburnet.com'
Cc: Melanie Curtis
Subject: 800 North Arm Drive&75 Ferndale Green
Attachments: Hardcover Information Packet-2014.pdf
John,
Following up on our telephone conversation from today...
800 North Arm Drive
The property addressed 800 North Arm Drive is located in the LR-1B lakeshore zoning district requiring a minimum of 1
acre and 140' in width per lot. Setbacks are: rear(street) 30', 10'on the sides, average lakeshore setback and no
hardcover allowed within 75' of the lake. Currently the average lakeshore setback cuts through the middle of the lot.
According to our wetland map a wetland exists on the property. The wetland would need to be delineated. A 35'
setback is required from the delineated edge for structure and hardcover. The property is located in Tier 1 of the
Stormwater Quality Overlay District where 25%of the gross area of the lot is allowed to be covered in hardcover.
Attached is the City's hardcover information packet.
The City's subdivision regulations can be found by clicking here.
If subdividing, each lot would need to be a minimum of 1 acre 'dry' land, not including any wetland and would need to
be 140' in frontage width at the lake/OHWL(ordinary high water level)and 75' back from the OHWL if a lakeshore lot
OR 140' at the street. Three lots would require a 50' platted private road with a cul-de-sac. Two lots would require a
30' platted outlot. Proposed homes on the new lakeshore lots would need to meet the average lakeshore setback,see
78-1279(6), Placement of structures on lots.
if both/all lots do not front the street the division is considered a front/back lot subdivision. Flag lots are not allowed.
See Front Lot/Back Lot standards. A non-lakeshore lot would not have lake access.
75 Ferndale Green
The property addressed 75 Ferndale Green is located in the R-1A zoning district requiring a 1 acre minimum and 140' in
width. The City's wetland map indicates wetlands on the property. The wetlands would need to be delineated. A 35'
setback from the delineated edge is required for structure and hardcover. The setbacks for the R-1A zoning district 35'
front(road), 30' rear and 10' on each side. A new lot would require 140' in width.
If you have any additional questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Christine Mattson
Planning Assistant
City of Orono
2750 Kelley Parkway I Orono ( MN 155356(physical address)
PO Box 66 1 Crystal Bay I MN 155323-0066(mailing address)
2 952.249.4620 1 8 952.249.4616
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