HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-14-2019 Council Minutes MINUTES OF THE
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday,October 14,2019
7:00 o'clock p.m.
ROLL CALL
The Orono City Council met on the above-mentioned date with the following members present: Mayor
Dennis Walsh, City Council Members Richard Crosby,III,Matt Johnson,Aaron Printup, and Victoria
Seals. Representing Staff were City Administrator Dustin Rief,Finance Director Ron Olson,
Development Director Jeremy Barnhart,City Planners Melanie Curtis and Laura Oaken, Public Works
Director/City Engineer Adam Edwards, City Attorney Soren Mattick,and Recorder Jackie Young.
Mayor Walsh called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m., followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
CONSENT AGENDA
1. CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 23,2019
2. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 23,2019
3. CLAIMS/BILLS
4. REDUCE DEBT LEVY REQUIREMENT SERIES 2014A RESOLUTION NO. 7024
5. REDUCE DEBT LEVY REQUIREMENT SERIES 2016A RESOLUTION NO. 7025
6. ADOPT RESOLUTION TO DESIGNATE POLLING PLACES FOR 2020 ELECTIONS
RESOLUTION NO.7026
7. ADOPT RECORDS MANAGEMENT POLICY AND RESOLUTION NO. 7027
8. APPROVE PURCHASE OF MICROFILM SCANNER
9. DISPOSAL OF FORFEITED VEHICLES
10. DISPOSAL OF BICYCLES
11. ACCEPT OFFICER JOSH NEEDHAM'S RESIGNATION
12. REQUEST TO PROMOTE FULL-TIME POLICE OFFICER
13. ACCEPT ORONO ROTARY DONATION TO LURTON AND SAGA HILLS PARKS
RESOLUTION NO.7028
14. LONG LAKE RAVINE STABILIZATION—FINAL PAY APPLICATION/CLOSEOUT
15. APPROVE BIG ISLAND PARK ADDITIONAL ARCHEOLOGY WORK
16. 2019 SEWER REHABILITATION AWARD
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17. LA19-000053—CITY OF ORONO,TEXT AMENDMENT,AVERAGE LAKE SHORE
SETBACK ORDINANCE
This item was removed from the Consent Agenda.
18. LA19-000062—CITY OF ORONO,TEXT AMENDMENT,ACCESSORY BUILDING
SIZE REGULATIONS ORDINANCE NO.232,THIRD SERIES
19. LA19-000064—CITY OF ORONO,TEXT AMENDMENT,GARDENS AS SPRINCIPAL
USE REGULATIONS ORDINANCE NO.233,THIRD SERIES
20. LA19-000068—ERIC JOHNSON,580 ORCHARD PARK ROAD,VARIANCE—
RESOLUTION NO. 7029
21. LA19-000071—LAUREL ULLAND ARCHITECTURE/MARTHA MEYERS HEAD,2090
SHORELINE DRIVE,VARIANCE—RESOLUTION NO. 7030
22. LA19-000072—BRENDEN LAWRENCE,4265 FOREST LAKE DRIVE,VARIANCE—
RESOLUTION NO.7031
29. CARMAN BAY LAKE IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT LEVY RESOLUTION NO.7034
31. LABOR AGREEMENT WITH SERGEANTS LELS LOCAL#168
Crosby moved,Johnson seconded,to approve the Consent Agenda as revised,with Item No. 17
being removed from the Consent Agenda,and Items No.29 and 31 being added to the Consent
Agenda. Items No.26 and 32 were removed from the Regular Agenda. VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 0.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None
PUBLIC HEARING
23. LA19-000060—TOM DRUK,3348 BAYSIDE ROAD,CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT,
PUBLIC HEARING,RESOLUTION NO. 7032
Oakden stated the applicant is requesting a conditional use permit for grading and filling within the
floodplain and mitigation for a 100-year floodplain for construction of a new two-car detached garage.
The site is substandard in size,width,and has a protected tributary along the northern property line
creating a limited building envelope.
In order to meet all the required setback regulations,the detached garage is partially located within the
100-year floodplain. The garage will be elevated out of the floodplain with fill. Placing fill in the
floodplain requires a conditional use permit. The 26' x 26' building is proposed to be raised roughly two
feet.
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The public hearing was continued from the Planning Commission meeting to ensure compliance with the
DNR's 60-day review period. The Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of the
conditional use permit.
Staff finds the proposed plan meets the conditions for filling in the floodplain and meeting all the required
setbacks leaves limited options for location of the structure.
No public comments have been received regarding the application.
Staff recommends approval. The City Council should hold a public hearing and adopt or amend the
proposed approval resolution.
Mayor Walsh opened the public hearing at 7:08 p.m.
There were no public comments regarding this application.
Mayor Walsh closed the public hearing at 7:08 p.m.
The City Council had no questions for Staff.
Printup moved,Seals seconded,to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 7032 ,a Resolution Approving a
Conditional Use Permit from Municipal Zoning Code Section 78-1118,for the property located at
3348 Bayside Road. VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 0.
PRESENTATION
24. ORONO SCHOOL BOARD REFERENDUM PRESENTATION
Dick Lewis,Orono School Board,addressed the City Council regarding the Orono School District's
proposed levy referendum this fall. Many states provide for certain types of expenses,but Minnesota
does not carve out technology and requires a special referendum. Historically Orono passed its first
textbooks and technology levy in 2002,which was renewed with no increase in 2011. Recently the
School Board recommended repeal and replacement of the existing levy,which is good until 2021. By
repealing and replacing,the Orono School District will receive extra money for technology. If the
proposed levy does not pass, the School District would be able to come back with a new referendum at a
later date.
With the designated technology funding,the School District has been able to accelerate the
personalization of student learning, implement Orono PLUS, and facilitate parent involvement through
systems such as Schoology, SchoolMessenger,and ParentVUE. The new funding would be used to
expand teacher training for more effective use of technology in their classrooms,improve communication
with parents,enhance cyber security protections,and update infrastructure such as servers,routers and
wiring.
The Orono School District spends approximately$1 million a year on technology,which works out to
about$344 per student,and puts Orono down towards the bottom as compared to other nearby schools. If
the new referendum passes,Orono would be in the middle of the group,which would amount to
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approximately$560 per student. Under the current levy, on a$400,000 house,the District's current
authority is$98 per year and the new levy would increase it to$197 per year.
More information on the proposed levy is available through a special brochure that will be mailed to all
residents and businesses,the school district's website,and via e-mail.
Walsh noted Mr. Lewis will be retiring at the end of the year after serving the Orono School District for
24 years.
The City Council took no action on this item.
25. LMCD REPRESENTATIVE MARK KROLL—LMCD UPDATE
Mark Kroll, LMCD Representative,provided the City Council with an update on the actions of the
LMCD Board. In serving on the board for the past two and a half years,he has focused on two goals.
The first one was to repair the damage that had been done by the previous relationship and restore
Orono's influence on the Board. Even though Orono has the lion's share of the lakeshore,they only are
1 of 14 votes. The second goal was to get a moratorium on milfoil harvesting. Both of those goals have
been met.
Kroll stated in his 35 years in serving on public and private boards,this is his first nonprofit board he has
served on,and one of the things that he has learned is that the marina owners bear the brunt of the LMCD
regulations and fees but yet they have no representation on the LMCD Board. Recently a respected local
marina owner in Orono has indicated a desire to serve on the Board. Kroll stated he would be happy to
relinquish his position on the LMCD Board to Rich Anderson.
Kroll stated at this time he would formally retire as a representative on the LMCD Board.
Walsh and Seals thanked Mr. Kroll for the work Mr.Kroll has done on the Board.
Walsh moved, Seals seconded,to accept the resignation of Mark Kroll and to appoint Rich
Anderson to the LMCD Board as Orono's representative.
Rich Anderson stated as a marina owner,he has been dealing with the LMCD since 1976. The current
board does not have knowledge of the LMCD's past history,which he will be able to provide,and that he
will work hard in representing Orono.
VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 0.
PLANNING DEPARTMENT REPORT
17. LA19-000053—CITY OF ORONO,TEXT AMENDMENT,AVERAGE LAKESHORE
SETBACK
Barnhart noted at the City Council's September 9 meeting,the Council directed Staff to prepare an
ordinance for adoption reflecting desired language offered by the Mayor. An ordinance was presented at
the September 23 Council meeting,which triggered additional discussion.
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Based on those discussions,adjustments were made to the final ordinance, including a definition of
Lakeshore,which has been replaced with Ordinary High-Water Line. There was also some discussion
about how the nearest lakeward projection of the adjacent homes are determined. In instances when the
surveyor cannot obtain permission to access a neighboring property,the City has and will continue to
accept information based on satellite imagery.
As directed by the City Council,the proposed ordinance does not make wholesale changes to the Average
Lakeshore regulations and will impact only a small percentage of lake lots.
Staff recommends adoption of the ordinance.
Johnson noted he provided an example at the last meeting of a complication with the average lakeshore
setback ordinance and that he would like to get clarity on some of the language since it is an important
document and will impact a number of people.
The first concern is the different verbiage that is used. In the ordinance the words principal building is
used three times, residence building is used three times, and structure and a building is also used.
Johnson stated he would like to get some consistency in the words that are being used. The first line of
the ordinance says,"No principal or accessory building shall be located closer to the Ordinary High-
Water Line than the average distance from the shoreline of existing residence buildings on adjacent lots.
Johnson asked whether residence building is different than what is being referenced as a principal
building.
Barnhart noted Staff is not proposing any change to that.
Johnson indicated he would like to have some consistency in the terms used and that he is wondering
whether principal should be used in place of residence building.
City Attorney Mattick noted under Paragraph B, Staff inserted the term principal building since the term
principal building is something that is used throughout the Code. The existing language of residence
building was not modified. To be consistent,the term principal could be substituted in place of residence.
Barnhart indicated Staff can make that change.
Johnson stated where the language was clarified, it was switched to principal building. This issue came
up when he presented the proposed ordinance to different folks that use the ordinance and they found it
confusing. At the end of that same paragraph,the term residence building is used again. Under
Paragraph A,the term residence building is used again. Johnson recommended the term principal
building be used wherever the term residence building appears in the ordinance.
Johnson stated in his view this is important because the ordinance does not apply to patios or other
accessory structures less than 42 inches above existing grade. The ordinance goes on to list stairways,
lifts, landings,lockboxes,flagpoles, and pump houses. Johnson asked whether that is referring to deck
stairs.
Barnhart stated only if they are above 42 inches.
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Johnson stated the language reads that it does not apply to those structures less than 42 inches above the
existing grade. Johnson asked whether anything under 42 inches is considered part of the principal
building.
Barnhart stated that is correct.
Johnson asked where that measurement is made from.
Barnhart stated Staff historically uses six feet because it is sometimes hard to define where those steps hit
the 42-inch level.
Curtis stated if it is a structure that is six feet above grade, it is considered part of the massing. The City
does not allow anything taller than 42 inches in the average lakeshore setback.
Johnson asked if a stairway is measured from where the stairs start.
Barnhart indicated they measure from where the stairs hit 42 inches and any portion of the stairs below 42
inches is not counted.
Johnson asked if Staff feels this is adequate language to describe that situation.
Barnhart stated in his view it is.
Johnson asked if the language in Paragraph B would apply to an item like a deck that is attached to the
principal structure. If the line does not bisect the principal building but it bisects the deck,does that line
keep moving until it bisects nothing of the principal structure.
Barnhart indicated that is correct.
Johnson asked whether they must also meet the 75-foot setback even though it is not specifically stated in
the ordinance.
Barnhart stated that is true, as well as other applicable setbacks.
Walsh summarized the proposed changes to the ordinance, noting that in Lines 18,23, and 26,they are
proposing to replace residence with principal. In Line 31 they will be replacing structure with principal
building, and in Line 32 they will be adding principal in front of building.
Johnson noted on Line 20 the words stairways all the way through pump houses should be in parentheses
since those are examples.
Walsh suggested they use the words and/or after the word grade.
Walsh moved,Crosby seconded,to adopt ORDINANCE NO. 234,an Ordinance Amending the
Code
of Ordinances Pertaining to Average Lakeshore Setback,with Lines 18,23,26 being amended to
read principal rather than residence; Line 31 being amended to read principal structure rather
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than structure;with Line 32 being amended to read principal building rather than building; and to
add the words and/or before the word stairways on Line 20. VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 0.
26. LA19-000047—SCOTT GATES ON BEHALF OF KRUCKEBERG REAL ESTATES,4400
DEERING ISLAND,COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT,AMEND MUSA BOUNDARY
This application was withdrawn at the request of the Applicant.
27. LA19-000067—ALEXANDER DESIGN GROUP ON BEHALF OF MARK AND KRISTIE
TIES,3219 CASCO CIRCLE,VARIANCE
Mark and Kristie Ties,Property Owners,and Sven Gustafson, Stonewood,were present.
Curtis stated the applicant is proposing to construct a new home on the property and is requesting an
average lakeshore setback variance. The existing home and guest house will be removed,and the
boathouse will remain. Due to the shape and orientation of the property, a variance is being requested.
The existing home and accessory buildings on this property are located lakeward of the average lakeshore
setback line.
Following the Planning Commission meeting,the applicant provided a revised site plan in response to the
concerns expressed by the neighbor. The revised plan widened the angle of the neighbor's view to
accommodate an existing sightline over the existing one-story guest house. Following the public hearing
and discussion,the Planning Commission voted 5-1 in favor of the proposal with the modification as
presented and discussed. The applicant has provided a revised plan showing the 62.3 degree preservation
discussed during the Planning Commission meeting.
The City Council should discuss the application and then direct Staff to draft a resolution reflecting
Council's decision for adoption at the October 28 meeting.
Sven Gustafson, Stonewood, stated it is a large but oddly shaped lot and that they have worked hard with
Alexander Group to design a house that improved the lakeside setbacks, improved the side yard setbacks,
and maintained good drainage. There is a fairly steep slope from where the courtyard bisects the property
and then towards the back of the house.
Between the Planning Commission meeting and this evening,the view has been improved from 60
degrees to 62.5,which was the direction of the Planning Commission. The house has also been pulled
further back from the lake since the Planning Commission meeting. It was previously 148 feet to the lake
and now it is proposed at 156 feet from the lake. Pulling it any further back from the lake created an issue
with a large tree off the end of the garage as well as some drainage considerations.
Walsh asked if the current plan is what is depicted on the overhead.
Curtis indicated it is. The existing buildings shown with that same sightline are depicted by the black
line.
Gustafson stated the entirety of the second building is gone.
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Walsh commented he attended the Planning Commission meeting and the goal was to accommodate the
neighbor's desire to view over the boathouse,which has been accomplished.
Gustafson stated what is not clear on the plan is the impact of the trees on the neighbor's view. Through a
lot of pruning,the view has been opened up without removing the structure.
Walsh asked if anyone from the public would like to comment on this application.
Stacy Marks,3127 Casco Circle, stated she has been listening to the City Council and Planning
Commission meetings and that they spend a lot of time talking about the average lakeshore setback
because it is very important. It helps to maintain the quality of the lake and keep neighbors happy.
Marks stated she is here tonight to ask the City Council to honor the setbacks since they serve a purpose
and the people of Casco Circle have held pretty true to that in this area.
Marks commented she thinks of this 49-foot setback as the elephant in the room and that typically the
City will look at setbacks anywhere from 3 to 8 feet. The proposed structure and majority of the house is
ahead of both lines. One of the things mentioned and noted in Staff s report is that the lot will not
accommodate the structure. The house can be moved inside that pocket,which is 120 feet,and that more
than anything this is a design issue. Most people have their homes more complying with the setback, and
as the City Council can see,the home fits in there just fine. The big question is how that can be
considered a reason to come for a variance.
Marks stated she also thinks it was a little disingenuous when the rest of the structure is not included in
the packet. In order to see the whole roof,you have to go to Page 7 of 7. The rest of the proposed roof is
even taller and only the left-hand portion of the house was shown. Those side-by-side images do not
show a true picture of the house.
Curtis stated the applicants were providing the view from the side of the new house to her house.
Marks stated if you are comparing the two,you should also show the other side of the house as well
because it shows a different picture. Marks requested the City Council to strongly consider the variance
before making a decision.
Seals asked where the current structure is.
Curtis indicated the red lines depict the current structure and the boathouse is down by the lake.
Seals stated in her view this Council tries to respect the 75-foot setback but that there is a continency
within the code that allows someone to replace a structure in like and kind as long as they rebuild within a
year. The applicants are pushing the structure further back,which is a good thing,but that she can
understand why she would like to see the house moved.
Walsh stated they are farther ahead of the average lakeshore setback right now,but they are pushing the
house back from what was originally proposed and from what exists.
Seals stated they are improving the situation.
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Walsh noted the Planning Commission discussed the neighbor's view of the boathouse and the applicants
made an accommodation to their plan to maintain that view even though there is nothing in the code
requiring that.
Johnson commented the existing house affords the property owners some privilege with the position of
their new house and they are taking advantage of that,which they are entitled to do. If this was a vacant
lot,they would not get any support for moving it in front of that average lakeshore setback line,but it is
not a vacant lot and they have a right to place the house where it is. The applicants have moved it back
from what was originally proposed to accommodate the neighbor's view and they did not have to do that.
Crosby asked how far back it is from the initial home.
Gustafson stated he believes it is 143.
Curtis stated 143 feet was the proposed home location and it is now 156 feet.
Stacy Marks asked if there is now an as-if clause that is going to be applied because she did not read that
anywhere in the code. The applicants are not replacing it in like and kind,and the rule should only apply
if that was being replaced in like and kind.
Walsh stated it is a mitigating factor versus it being a clean slate where someone has to have a practical
difficulty to get a variance.
Mattick stated the property owners can build exactly what they have without a variance if they rebuild it
in like and kind. Since this is not a vacant lot,the Council has to consider other things, and historically
Ms. Marks' view has had some blockage.
Marks noted the existing structure is 73 feet from her property and that this large three-story structure will
be 17 feet from her house. What is being proposed is a very different structure from what exists,and if
someone can get a 49-foot setback,the question is where does it stop.
Printup moved,Johnson seconded,Application No.LA19-000067,Alexander Design Group on
behalf of Mark and Kristie Ties,3129 Casco Circle,to direct Staff to draft an approval resolution
granting an average lakeshore setback variance. VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 0.
28. LA19-000069—GORDON JAMES CONSTRUCTION ON BEHALF OF DALE AND
JONMARI OLSEN,3315 CRYSTAL BAY ROAD,VARIANCES AND IUP
John Quinlivan,Gordon James Construction;Andrea Swan,Architect; and Dale and JonMari Olsen,
Property Owners,were present.
Curtis stated the applicant is requesting a number of approvals in conjunction with redevelopment of the
property. Due to the property's small size and small deck,redevelopment will require the following
variances:
-Lot area;
-Hardcover within the 75-foot setback;
-Building and structure within the 75-foot setback
-Driveway width within the 75-foot setback;
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-49 percent total site hardcover where 25 percent is allowed;
-30 percent building/structural coverage where 20 percent is the maximum allowed;
-Rear yard setback;
-Front(street)setback; and
-Side yard setback.
An interim use permit for export of approximately 1,120 cubic yards of material to be hauled from the
property within 75-foot setback and off site is also being requested.
At the September Planning Commission meeting, following a public hearing and discussion,they voted
4-2 on a motion to deny the requested variances. There was considerable discussion regarding the
proposed structural coverage and the adjusted lot area used to calculate structural coverage between the
applicant and the Planning Commission. In situations like this one where the traveled roadway does not
exist in a dedicated easement,the actual paved width is removed from the lot area for calculation
purposes. The total lot area of this property is 14,459 square feet;however,the adjusted area is
determined to be 11,100 square feet.
Staff does find practical difficulties inherent to the size and shape of the property in addition to the
location of the roadway and lake to justify some level of variances for redevelopment. However,the
applicant is proposing redevelopment on this property at a scale which is unsupported by practical
difficulties and is far beyond what is reasonable for the property and neighborhood to support.
Staff recognizes that this lot requires certain variances to support development and redevelopment. Staff
does not support the structural coverage or hardcover variances because it appears the requests are borne
out of convenience rather than hardship. Staff recommends the structural coverage be reduced to 20
percent.
Staff recommends denial of the application as proposed.
John Quinlivan, Gordon James Construction,noted there are currently 28 properties on Crystal Bay Road,
with 24 considered lakeshore. Of the 24 properties with lakeshore,this property is the widest property at
150 feet. There are approximately 11 lots that are 50 feet or less width,four lots have 60 feet or less in
width,five have 90 feet or less in width,and three lots are over 100 feet in width. This property is the
widest of those properties but is also the second shallowest property,which presents a number of
challenges and practical difficulties. A practical difficulty has to be a reasonable manner not created by
the owner and fits the character of the neighborhood.
A number of the lots to the west have front-load garages due to the width of the lot. There are five lots
that are wider that have side-loading garages. Several properties to the east have variances for a garage
tucked in the back. A side-loading garage was designed for several different reasons. Number one,it
offers a better appearance. Number two,Crystal Bay Road is narrow, and it was felt it would be better
not to back out into the street. The setbacks are greater than three times what was required. There is also
very limited parking on Crystal Bay Road and the side-loading garage would allow for guest parking.
As it relates to hardcover,they are proposing to capture nearly 100 percent of the runoff through cisterns
that would capture as much water as possible. The driveway and other exterior hardcover will use
pervious pavers and the gutters will direct water to the buried cisterns. The homeowners are very
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involved with the newly proposed Lake Improvement District on Crystal Bay and have taken every effort
to eliminate runoff from their proposed plan.
Andrea Swan stated she would echo what was said by Mr. Quinlivan,and that she politely disagrees that
the plan is for convenience but that it rather is for safety. As an architect, she follows codes relating to
the health, safety, and welfare of the neighborhood and City. This lot would require a variance no matter
what is done and the question is what is reasonable.
This lot is uncharacteristic with the neighborhood and most of the homes vary greatly. To the east,the
lots are bigger,with the garages in the back. To the west they get smaller for a while and then get bigger.
The easy thing to do would be to put the garage on the front,but the right thing is not to do that for
aesthetic and safety purposes. One of the neighbors pointed out that it is unsafe for cars to back out onto
the road. In addition,the driveway has been made skinnier and pervious pavers will be used.
Swan noted the City has received no objection letters from the neighborhood regarding their proposal and
that they are the ones who know the characteristics of the neighborhood and what they would like to see.
Quinlivan noted they have improved the lake side setback,the side yard setbacks,the rear yard setback
from existing,and that there is a lot to be said for that. In addition,the lakeside of the lot has a number of
retaining walls. They did meet out on site with Adam Edwards and he brought up some concerns from a
plow perspective. Although it is not in the plan,those retaining walls can be removed and the homeowner
is fine with that.
Mayor Walsh asked if anyone from the public would like to comment on this application.
Todd Olson,3325 Crystal Bay Road, stated he supports the plan and that it fits in with the neighborhood.
The houses are all different sizes and shapes. All the neighbors support it and it will be positive for the
area.
John East, 3445 Crystal Bay Road, stated he would echo those comments and that the new home would
beautify the neighborhood.
Crosby asked how many square feet the home is.
Curtis indicated it is 3,454.
Richard Anderson, 3205 Crystal Bay Road, stated he has .33 acres of land next to his marina and this is
.25. The house he has designed for that lot is 20 percent structure and 24.9 percent hardcover.
Something can be designed for this lot that fits in the footprint. The house is supposed to be 20 percent
structural coverage and it is proposed at 31 percent.
The area where they are talking about removing the retaining walls is at the widest part of the road and
people park there. Anderson stated he is not sure if the 21 feet is accurate or if that is proposed.
Curtis stated they are showing the width of the road narrowed.
Anderson stated he has an issue with them removing part of the road. An argument could be made that
the City does not own the road,but the fact of the matter is the pavement has been there for a long time
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and there will be a struggle to take the pavement out. That area allows some parking and removal of it
will be an issue. There are dock renters at this property and the next-door property and that is where the
cars park when there is overflow. It also helps create a nice little buffer. In addition,the neighboring
Anderson reiterated that someone can design the house to meet the 20 percent and meet the setbacks, and
that it was his understanding the 20 percent was a hard and fast number.
Printup commented what is being proposed is too much for the lot and that it has not been that long ago
that the structural coverage was raised to 20 percent from 15 percent.
Walsh noted Staff recommended the applicants comply with the 20 percent.
Printup concurred it is a hard and fast number and they can redesign it.
Quinlivan noted the Planning Commission thought the road was a practical difficulty, and if you take that
out of the square footage, it really limits what can be built. Quinlivan asked whether the road could be
considered a practical difficulty. Right now with the road it is 14,459 square feet and 11,000 square feet
without it.
Walsh pointed out the City typically removes the square footage out of the calculation, and if that was
included,they would be able to meet that.
Printup encouraged the applicants meet the structural and hardcover rules as much as possible.
Walsh asked if the road was included as part of the lot for the other lots in the neighborhood.
Curtis stated either the road is platted and is not included, or the road area is removed from the
calculation. There have not been a lot of structural coverage variances granted because a number of the
lots are 10,000 feet. The other new homes in the neighborhood have complied with the 20 percent.
Quinlivan noted this is the shallowest property in the area,and where the road widens at the front of the
house,the largest amount of road is on this property. In his view that is a practical difficulty and it would
help fit the 20 percent overall lot coverage.
Walsh commented he can see how it could be a practical difficulty and that the question becomes what
mitigating factors there are. Even if all of that is factored in,they are still over.
Quinlivan indicated it is 23.5 percent without the road and in their view they can reduce that.
Printup noted the City does not count the pervious pavers and the cisterns.
Quinlivan pointed out they will absorb all of the watershed for a significant cost and that in his view that
is a pretty good trade-off. Removing the road would help.
Walsh noted it is a choice to have a side-loading garage and that it creates a lot of hardcover. The
proposed structural coverage and hardcover are the two things that jump out.
Crosby commented it is too much.
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Seals stated it is a beautiful drawing,but it is too much for the lot. The lots are smaller in the Crystal Bay
neighborhood. The proposed hardcover is also an issue and that in her view they are pushing the limits
too much.
Quinlivan pointed out they have 30-plus setbacks on each side and that it will look like there are two
empty lots. The challenge is how to make it fit without looking out of place.
Johnson stated the discussion at the Planning Commission was pretty interesting and that he is in favor of
allowing them to use the 14,000 square foot number as the basis.
Walsh stated that would make the road a practical difficulty.
Johnson stated he believes the Planning Commission felt that as well. There is some advantage to being
on a lot less than 10,000 square feet because they tend to get a lot of variances. Johnson indicated he
would not be open to any restricting of that roadside and that he would like to see the walls removed. By
using that 14,000 number,they can revise their plan to get closer to the numbers,but they will have to
make some hard choices.
Johnson stated he also heard the argument about backing out on to the street, and that he would like to
keep the cars off the street as much as possible. If you have to back out,you have to be more careful.
Johnson stated he would not be in favor of narrowing the road and that they should comply with the 20
percent structural coverage but that he is not sure about the hardcover number.
Crosby commented he would like to see the hardcover number be reduced.
Seals stated the problem with narrow roads is emergency vehicle access.
Quinlivan asked if they can table the application.
Walsh indicated they can do that.
Curtis noted the deadline has been extended to January 1,2010.
Swan asked even if they put the garage facing the street,they would still be over on hardcover,and her
question would be whether that would be better.
Walsh commented it is not the purview of the City Council to design the house and that they just provide
guidance. The City Council has provided the boundaries they should work within and gave them some
flexibility with the road
Quinlivan concurred there is some value to getting cars off the street and leaving it wider. If they leave
the road the way it is today,there is also some desire to get cars off the street as well.
Walsh stated those would be mitigating factors and that the City Council cannot give them an exact
answer at this time.
Curtis stated 1,400 square feet of driveway would be 10 percent.
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Johnson suggested showing the plan two ways. There is some flexibility with getting cars off the road but
they have to shrink the overall house down.
Walsh noted they cannot create their own practical difficulty.
Walsh moved,Crosby seconded,to table Application No.LA19-000069,Gordon James
Construction on behalf of Dale and JonMari Olsen,3315 Crystal Bay Road.
VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 0.
MAYOR/COUNCIL REPORT
Seals stated her team won the boating trophy. Even though the weather was cold and rainy,everyone had
a lot of fun.
Seals reported the Bederwood project is underway and it looks very nice.
Printup noted he received an email yesterday about the Polar Plunge and that he is looking forward to it.
Printup noted Minnesota had the current president visit the state last week and that in the future he would
hope everyone would be open to any past,present,or future president visiting the City of Orono with
open arms.
Johnson had nothing to report.
Crosby reported there was a major house fire on Walters Port on Friday. The winds were excessive,with
70-mile an hour gusts. The Long Lake Fire Department was on the scene fairly quickly and they did a
great job,along with all the neighboring fire departments. Kudos to the crews and the firefighters
because they did an outstanding job.
Walsh stated he attended his daughter's softball game in Wisconsin where they reached the consolation
championship game. He also got to visit the Notre Dame football stadium,which was fun.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT
30. DESIGNATE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY
Rief noted a couple of Council members have requested the Council discuss where the funds received for
the right-of-way be allocated. The contribution in lieu of the vacation was $35,000.
Walsh stated he would like to see it go into the Park Fund and the Council could provide guidance to the
Park Commission on how the money should be spent. The City has done a number of improvements to
the parks over the past few years to bring them up to speed and the Park Commission has spent a
substantial amount of money doing that. The City also received matching grants for Bederwood but the
City has to match those amounts.
As the City's Park Fund is dwindling down,the City will need to sustain the parks and that he would like
to start dedicating funds to that every year. The amount of development land in the City is slowly going
away,which means fewer park dedication funds.
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Johnson stated any time the City sells an asset,the money should be dedicated towards something, and
that he would be okay with putting it into the Park Fund.
Walsh noted the City Council has to approve any funds that come out of the Park Fund so they will have
some say in how the money is spent. The City might also want to look at improving lake accesses at
some point.
Rief stated park capital improvement items get spent out of the Park Fund and that currently there is no
designated improvements related to any new accesses and that they are all related to current park
accesses. If the City Council is interested in designating money toward lake access improvements,
perhaps a joint meeting with the Park Commission would be beneficial.
Sesals noted the City has a line item budget for the golf course and perhaps they could do the same thing
for Lurton Park.
Rief stated that was one thing that was discussed at the Park Commission work session. The City
currently does not track expenditures on a per park basis since it is hard to capture that because a lot of it
is related to maintenance.
Seals stated she is thinking more of the parks that bring in money for services,such as the dog park.
Rief stated Lurton Park brings in around 90 percent of the 100 percent they need,but that he can give an
exact number.
Seals stated when she was over at the Police Department last week, she heard some of the officers were at
Lurton Park because it was the impression that they never check for permits. If the City is going to
dedicate money towards improvements and maintenance,they need to understand the costs.
Walsh commented Staff could perhaps come up with some ballparks.
Rief stated the revenue part is easy to figure out but that allocating the maintenance expenses would be
more difficult.
Seals stated in her view the revenue from Lurton should go right back into the park and not into the
General Fund.
Rief stated the permit fees go into the General Fund and that they can track the expenses related to that
park. Rief stated he will discuss that with Adam and br
ing back some options. The City does not know the exact operational costs of the park. In addition,there
has been some vandalism at the park.
Rief stated he will bring that item back before the City Council after Staff has had a chance to discuss it.
Seals moved,Crosby seconded,to direct Staff to deposit the Lurton Dog Park permit fees directly
into the Parks budget for reinvestment into Lurton Dog Park.
Rief noted that will cause an amendment to the budget and that they will bring it forward at the final
budget meeting.
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VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 0.
Seals moved,Crosby seconded,to allocate proceeds received from the right-of-way vacation
associated with Application No. LA19-000017 to the Parks Fund. VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 0.
Rief stated he needs one or two Council members to go through the audits.
Seals moved,Walsh seconded,to appoint Aaron Printup. VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 0.
CITY ATTORNEY REPORT
32. CLOSED SESSION
This item was removed from the Agenda.
ADJOURNMENT
Printup moved,Seals seconded,to adjourn the Orono City Council meeting at 8:51 p.m. VOTE:
Ayes 5,Nays 0.
ATTEST:
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Anna Carlson,City Clerk Dennis Walsh,Mayor
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