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Home My WebLink AboutRe: drainage STON EVVOOD DESIGN I BUILD LLC Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4420 Shoreline Drive Lyle Ohman Spring Park,MN 55384 City Of Orono PH 952-471-0584 Orono, MN FX 952-471-0639 Re: 847 Tonkawa Road StonewoodDesignBuild.com Dear Lyle, MN I.D.#20330592 Our staff has acted very responsibly in regard to the drainage situation along Tonkawa Road. When we mobilized, we met with Bruce from your department as well as a representative from the Hennepin County Right of Way department. We discussed with Bruce an abandoned clay tile drain pipe neat the NE corner of the property. This appeared to have been plugged for some period of time, and was reported to have led to the lake at some point in time down through the middle of the lot we are constructing the custom home on. Water drains along the street in a Northerly direction from the lot(s) to the South of us through our site. We discussed this with Mr. Zetterstrom, and he left an application for relocating the curb cut more northerly than the current location. We also discussed culvert installation concerns in the event we left a drainage ditch along the road. We offered full cooperation to George Stickney as a contact person for the property to the North. He has chosen to ignore our offer to interface with him on any filling that he might want to suggest to his client at this time. Any `ponding' on our site would only lead to an undesirable condition with additional drainage water collecting. It would not lower any water level, as water sheet drains across Tonkawa to the East when ponding is full. Filling the ditch in front of the adjacent northerly lot is an easy fix, makes the road safer(in the event a car is forced off of the roadway and into a ditch), and was offered to be done by us at a time when we had dirt from the pool excavation `literally free'for the asking —or for the granting of the offer to fill. Please call me if more information is needed. Very truly yours, Jeffrey Gustafson 8-5 Tues. Cloudy—no rain. LOT CLEARING. Todd cut trees outside footprint for over dig and const access. Todd pointed out the power line issue and trees that needed to be removed for over dig and equipment movement around house corner by front door area. EXCEL ENERGY ISSUES. Placed call to Shawn—cell 612-630-4292- at Excel to discuss downed line with neighbor's tree, transformer location, underground or overhead routing of wires,temporary power location. Todd pointed out that the pole (near the 30 inch Oak that had to be downed) is obsolete- has the old metal `steps' sticking out the side that kids can climb up and get `fried'. It has a gray, round transformer on it—fairly close to the house. This pole/transformer feeds both Vaillants and the now vacant lot to the North. The neighbor's Box elder tree up by the road fell across the line and dropped it —tree laying on Vaillant's lot in the `maybe wetlands'. It fell during last month's big storm. Todd feels—I agree—pole with transformer should be moved closer to the street— must be within 100 feet of the new home, but not `on top of it'. Services for both homes should go underground to homes from there. The gray, round transformer is ugly, and Power Company will maintain a large `swath' under the lines from the street to the transformer pole at all times—don't want that. Did not get a return call back. WETLAND DRAINAGE. Todd and I observed the boulevard areas to be bone dry. Found an antiquated culvert of clay tile on the northerly neighbor's part of the drainage ditch wetland- hard to say what that is all about... In the southerly wetland was another plugged culvert. Todd spent an hour shoveling it open, and digging through a 17 inch `barrier' around it to help drain standing water when runoff collects there. 8-7 Thursday. Sunny. LOT CLEARING. Ingram (612-685-0109)mobilized at 8:30 with a bobcat. Two-man crew consolidated stairs and debris from around site. Todd was there hauling and cutting, and supervised. Worked alongside them with his chains to pull stairs apart. DRAIN TILE TO LAKE AND SEWER LINE. Shawn said old survey showed a clay tile installed by the City from low area to lake—through the lot. She thought when the gas line was shut off that someone dug through it and blocked it—thought it was 6-7 feet down. We need to know routes of this line, as it is needed, as well as the route of the SEWER LINE—prior to further excavation. She thought Sven might have some knowledge. She is looking for the old survey that showed the clay drainage tile to the lake. I will fax this info to Robert Merila(turned out to be confused with the sewer). MCWD. Shawn will stop by and sign MCWD application. Updated Shawn via phone on the MCWD start—don't start issue. SILT FENCE. Have materials in Stonewood stock for SDB installation. Discussed installation scheduling and plan with Andy McLain—he will contact me to walk the site. Will install per normal regulations 8-11 SEWER. Sewer was installed in 1975. Planner and Jeff decided that the sewer was capped at cleanout in April on southerly side of driveway about '/2 way from street to prior house. Pipe in the two `low areas' must drain across the street. City did not tile wetland to the lake, as Shawn believed. *** SEE 8-17 notes for correction. 8-16 Sat. Sunny, and 8-17 Sunday. Sunny. LOT CLEARING. Todd continued to clean up lot. He discussed the hollow `leaning Oak' near street with Dennis and Shawn—neat tree, but I agreed to take it out if owners gave permission. He will make a final cleaning and I will get Stump Busters back for stumps and Buckthorns. Asked Todd to try to clear culvert under driveway that was buried. 8-17. Monday. Sunny. HENNEPIN COUNTY HIGHWAY RIGHT OF WAY. Dave Zetterstrom—763-745- 7643 or pager 612-580-3104. Jeffrey set meeting for 11 AM today to discuss road area and filling possibilities—got permission to fill and relocate to the north the curb cut - hold culvert if utilized to 50 feet of length. Dave will see if any maintenance personnel have any history on the culverts, etc. (Bruce cleared it all up). Took$50 application with me for curb cut re-locate should we change it. DRAINAGE CULVERT. Bruce at Orono confirmed Shawn's original statement of the pipe following the sewer line to the Lake. Lakeside washout gully was from this, and part of the Permit responsibilities is to cap it off at the street and just allow the water to collect there on the Northerly neighbor's property to be dealt with as surface water.NOT ALLOWED TO CULVERT THE RUNNOFF WATER TO THE LAKE. I will inform the Realtor for the northerly property that shares the drainage ditch if he calls—we know him. Will jointly fill and groom the areas. 8-19 Tuesday. Cloudy—rain held off but was threatening. EXCAVATION. Met Todd @ 8 AM and Wayne @ 9AM to go over excavation plans. Might bury some of the `wetland' trees we cut down. Late start: backhoe and Trax 953. Wayne and Danny. `WETLANDS' CULVERT. Wayne and I discussed a possible need for an 18-inch culvert 50 feet in length to eliminate water standing on `our land'. CONCRETE. Bob Speed spent one hour on site with Jeff and Wayne placing benchmarks and discussing elevations, knee walls, etc. Footings maybe Monday/walls Thursday. TREE CLEARING. Todd spent day on elms and willows in `wetlands'. Ingram buried half the rain forest debris along the boulevard. MANHOLE. Must be raised, per Bruce. Sanitary manhole cannot be below water's elevation(is not currently, but water stains show overflow into the sanitary has occurred in the past). He stopped by and went along with the right of way filling. Bruce acknowledged an 18-inch culvert was a good size for future cleaning and drainage of large amounts of water—if a culvert was utilized. This is where all the water goes—it comes from the southerly neighbor's property, and `our water' from our front yard joins it and goes northerly along the street or across the street when the low areas fill up. We cannot cut off the neighbor's water from the Southerly property. Dennis said the northerly neighbor purchased 30 feet off of their lot in years past, and this was the reason for the culvert deviating back across the Vaillant lot from the low spot near the 30 foot strip—will be a collection spot in future years for runoff. It appears that thre pipe has been clogged for years. SURVEY - Randy stopped by @ 1:30 AND MET WITH Wayne alone. —City needs `as- built' topo before occupancy cert to very compliance to approved grading plan. Home is being dug to submitted plan—might drop home 4 inches due to 10' ceiling height under garage rather than 10'-4". Question on `lowest floor elevation' —dropped Sport Court under garage of walkout level??? PROJECT MEETING—TO BE SCHEDULED. Tony is to set a project meeting for this Friday with the Speed, Bernie (Bennett Lumber and window supplier), and framer- to discuss specific specs (footing sizes and exact wall heights, windows, dates, etc). SILTFENCE. Andy installed 50 ft of fence along the northerly boulevard for filling. OWNER UPDATE: Met with owners at site @2:30 to review front yard sport court grading and add'1 garage space planning. Went over floor elevations, lower level add'1 window possibilities. Driveway will `wiggle' to the North a bit to eliminate the `shotgun' approach to the home. 8-20 Wednesday. Rained heavy 3-7 AM. Muddy, rain threatening in AM. MCWD. Called to check on status of permit. Renee is out of the office until the 25t". Jessie is the only person to know, and he is out of the office all day. Jessie called @ 2 and admitted he approved his last week's site inspection, but had not processed his report yet —I demanded the permit—said it was promised in a few days as of last Friday—Renee out `til the 26th. He said he would try to speed it up. EXCAVATION. Mobilized around noon. Dug main portion of house. Will complete dig tomorrow. LOT CLEARING. Todd cleaned up the northerly boulevard. Will remove the dangerous Maple toward the street. ELEVATIONS. Lowered house 1 foot. Randy will document and clear with City approval process. Page 1 of 1 Jeffrey P. Gustafson From: Jeffrey P. Gustafson [Jeff@StonewoodDesignBuild.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:48 PM To: 'gstickney@CBBurnet.com' Subject: Tonkawa listing George, I see the boulevard drainage ditches are full of water for obvious reasons. When we graded to the South of your listing, the City and highway department gave us permission to fill whatever we wanted in their right of way, which was a continuation of the drainage ditch system along the street basically on both sides of our driveway and continuing along the front of your listed lot. We have graded and will final grade to allow as much water as possible to drain along and across the street- from our lot as well as the natural drainage from the lot and boulevard to the South of us flowing to our boulevard and now to the wetlands across Tonkawa. We had our job stopped for a few months while we met with the Watershed District to do delineations that showed the drainage ditches along Tonkawa were just that—and not protected wetlands. We have raised the sanitary sewer manhole inverts to accommodate either the filling or the water levels, as the case may be. There is a lot of free fill available from the#12 Bypass—it might be worthwhile for your owner to pay for a little grading and get the front of your listed lot filled and seeded prior to marketing issues. The Highway Department has no problem with it at this time. It might be wise to not have any possibility of someone claiming there are wetlands along the front of your lot in the future—could hold up a permit and create the need for another spendy and time consuming wetlands delineation process. Let us know if you want any help coordinating this, or including this work in with our grading for a reimbursement. There might even be some extra fill coming up with the excavation for our client's pool —we never know until we dig it. You have a great listed property. Our home is entered in the June Luxury Home Tour. If it is still available, I would bet on the tour traffic delivering a buyer for it. Let us know if we can help in any way. Jeffrey Gustafson 612-296-6768. 5/11/2004 1 s awl A.Aw !_ Odk rPRA w _ _ EXISI ING N�_0 ss-ai s8.o o. B -1 -axo -.sa _ i -o 1 - 6 B- 604 1 6H x,,49,7 NJ 0 N �k r. Y -.r. 1 g i A-P.2 N - 5 5. a )57.4 WA-2 woe ll �l w a' .j 1 \� 1�1 FOWMAIN C��AMOOT ` W TER ELEV 9566x\ � \ gbp9 ED CULVERT MIN- 6 u►tY SEWER E - \ � 6 = �•e 5,� 56 A.�. p PSC SEE EO55 `,P 0 1µy • xq5 '/�. M1�-� , OROD T E�Y1MlCAT10N� 35,82 B E 6 %p8�--' LylQ �01 8� .1111�' V! 0 ca °� — •' , �cc."1, _ : 'zvcr .low j 4 _ t 1 �1 \ 1 - - ° ail c�� ' �..o � a � • 1 1 {� � y,.� h`--- , _ a�tea• Qo� v ,�. 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Cardarelle Surveyor X967.9 \ TNAT 1 ., RE lA awvETOR VA IL L ANT RESIDENCE 6440 FLYING CLOUD DRIVE °tom" 1A" E M"CSOT EDEN PRAIRIE, MN 55344 84.7 TONKAWA�?OAD gg2-941-3031 rRaK�P.-CARD llE Q MO.6308 AP ENDIX C 100-YEAR POND DESIGN 4 TRIBUTARY AREA POND A EA POND AREA STORAGE NORMAL HIGH POND (ACRES) @ NW @ HWL VOLUME WATER WATER OUTFLOW OUTLET POND# DIRECT PONDED TOTAL (ACRES) (ACRES AC-FT LEVEL LEVEL (CFS) STRUCTURE SMITH BAY SM-P1 16 - 16 0.67 2.00 3.78 945.0 948.0 0.0 Landlocked SM-P2 39 - 39 0.10 6.67 5.98 930.2 931.4 4.0 15'RCP STUBBS BAY SB-P2' 85 - 85 0.3 4.2 8.8 947.5 950.5 8.7 15"RCP SB-P4 32 - 32 0.0 1.3 1.8 938.0 941.7 12.5 18"RCP SB-P5' 69 106 175 2.5 6.3 11.5 936.9 939.6 11.3 18"RCP SB-P6 14 - 14 0.1 2.3 2.5 998.7 1000.3 0.0 Landlocked SB-P7 7 14 21 0.9 0.9 0.6 990.0 990.7 1.7 15"RCP SB-P9' 213 326 539 0.2 38.6 56.6 930.9 933.7 19.9 24"RCP SB-P11 38 - 38 0.1 1.0 2.0 943.6 948.1 15.3 18"RCP SB P12 23 - 23 0.0 0.5 1.1 996.2 999.5 12.8 No SB-P12 on Map SB-P13 5 - 5 0.4 0.9 1.1 1016.2 1017.9 0.0 Landlocked SB-P15 40 23 63 0.0 0.1 0.3 944.6 950.1 44.6 No SB-P15 on Map SB-P17 21 - 21 0.1 1.6 2.4 951.0 953.1 4.2 12"RCP SB-P18 15 21 36 0.6 0.9 1.9• 951.3 953.6 6.9 15"RCP SB-P19 4 - 4 0.0 0.1 0.1 958.0 960.0 3.7 12"RCP 2 96 5"RCP SB-P21 9 8 17 0.3 0.7 1.3 959.3 961.7 4.8 12"RCP SB-P22 8 - 8 0.6 0.8 0.9 964.0 965.3 4.4 15"RCP SB-P23 3 - 3 0.1 0.5 0.7 953.0 955.5 0.0 Landlocked SB-P9.1` 18 63 81 3.5 6.2 10.3 932.5 934.6 6.7 15"RCP NOTES: SB-P2 includes 32 acres of direct drainage fr m SB-1 SB-P5 includes 41 acres of direct drainage fr m SB-3 SB-P9 includes 4 acres of direct drainage fro SB-8,8 acres of direct drainage from SB-14,and 32 acres of direct drainage from SB-4. Also, 18 acres of'diredt drair age from SB-9 is directed to pond SB-P9.1 C--) APPENDIX A DRAINAGE AREAS PEAVEY LAKE Drainage Area Drainage Area Area (acres) Area (acres) PL-1 9 PL-9 3 PL-2 21 PL-10 10 PL-3 16 PL-1 1 75 PL-4 76 PL-12 7 PL-5 11 PL-13 44 PL-6 10 PL-14 12 PL-7 17 PL-16 7 PL-8 24 PL-17 23 TOTAL = 362 STUBBS BAY Drainage Area Drainage Area Area (acres) Area (acres) SB-1 32 SS-13 5 SB-2 53 S8-14 8 SS-3 41 SB-15 40 SB-4 3 - 2 SB 16 14 SB-5 28 SB-17 21 SB-6 14 SB-18 15 SB-7 7 SS-19 4 SB-8 4 SB-20 10 S B-9 187 S8-21 9 SB-11 38 SB-22 8 SB-12 23 SB-23 3 . TOTAL = 564 SMITH BAY Drainage Area Area (acres) SM-1 16 SM-2 39 TOTAL = 55 TANAGER LAKE A-7 APPENDIX B EXISTING AND PROPOSED PIPES BASIN FROM TO LENGTH PIPE SIZE FLOW STATUS 10 NODE NODE (ft) (in) (CFS) Notes- Insufficient data available to determine flaw through these existing pipes Pipe flows represent 10-year storm events OSA=outside study area SE-15 799 800 1395 18'x2' 48.3 OPEN CHANNEL SB-15 802 S8-09.2 83 27 44.6 PROPOSED SS-16 833 SS-016 73 24 17.3 PROPOSED SS-17 806 S8-017 396 18 12.2 PROPOSED SS-17 808 SB-P18 41 12 4.2 PROPOSED SB-18 804 S8-P18 . 504 18 13.5 PROPOSED SS-18 810 809 99 15 6.9 PROPOSED SB-19 827 826 310 12 7 PROPO F: SB 20 825 586 557 15 3.6 PROP OSED SB-21 823 821 64 12 4.8 PROPOSED SS-22 876 877 107 15 4.4 PROPOSED 38-100( 812 811 95 24 6.9 EXISTING SS-100( 819 LC-01000 257 2X1.5 21 OPEN CHANNEL SB-100( 821 822 235 5X2 4.8 OPEN CHANNEL 36-100( 814 813 63 18 6.8 PROPOSED 3B-100( 817 816 601 15 6 PROPOSED 36-100( 816 815 753 18 14 PROPOSED S8-100( 822 824 107 18 4.8 PROPOSED SMITH BAY SM-2 888 OSA 78 15 4 PROPOSED TANAGER LAKE TL-1 903 902 105 12 EXISTING TL-1 907 906 51 15 EXISTING TL-1 909 908 56 36 EXISTING TL-1 905 904 86 15 EXISTING TL-3 910 911 121 27 49.5 PROPOSED TL-4 940 941 111 54 18.2 EXISTING TL-4 901 900 270 60 EXISTING TL-4 931 930 115 42 18.2 PROPOSED TL-7 929 928 124 2-12' 12.5 PROPOSED TL-8 938 939 107 21 4.7 EXISTING TL-9 937 520 161 24 4.7 EXISTING TL-13 927 926 64 15 PRGPE)SEB TL-14 933 932 364 24 8.6 PROPOSED TL-15 943 942 161 24 4.3 EXISTING TL-18 920 TL-P19 93 12 3.6 PROPOSED TL-18 925 924 59 12 1 PROPOSED TL-19 944 PL-P29 135 2-12' 5.6 PROPOSED TL-20 922 923 503 12 2.8 PROPOSED TL-22 936 BB-P3 253 6 0.7 EXISTING TL-22 935 TL-P14 399 12 5.1 PROPOSED TL-26 948 949 286 50'x3' 212 OPEN CHANNEL TL-27 946 PL-P29 148 2-15' 9 PROPOSED TL-28 912 TL-P31 289 15 4.9 PROPOSED TL-30 899 BE-1317 100 12 1.6 PROPOSED TL-31 914 TL-P29 117 15 4.3 PROPOSED TL-32 916 TL-P31 85 15 3 PROPOSED TL-33 918 TL-P32 93 15 2.6 PROPOSED WEST ARM WA-0 974 975 63 24 EXISTING WA-0 973 974 50 24 EXISTING WA-0 975 976 230 18 EXISTING WA-1 968 967 15 30 BCW 16.9 PROPOSED WA-2 972 WA-02 67 3-24' 66.6 PROPOSED WA-3 964 WA-P4 61 2X3 12 EXISTING WA-4 966 965 79 A -, wfc rthg^ i Page 1 of 1 Stickney, George ---------- From: Jeffrey P. Gustafson [Jeff@StonewoodDesignBuild.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:48 PM To: Stickney, George Subject: Tonkawa listing George, I see the boulevard drainage ditches are full of water for obvious reasons. When we graded to the South of your listing, the City and highway department gave us permission to fill whatever we wanted in their right of way, which was a continuation of the drainage ditch system along the street basically on both sides of our driveway and continuing along the front of your listed lot. We have graded and will final grade to allow as much water as possible to drain along and across the street- from our lot as well as the natural drainage from the lot and boulevard to the South of us flowing to our boulevard and now to the wetlands across Tonkawa. We had our job stopped for a few months while we met with the Watershed District to do delineations that showed the drainage ditches along Tonkawa were just that—and not protected wetlands. We have raised the sanitary sewer manhole inverts to accommodate either the filling or the water levels, as the case may be. There is a lot of free fill available from the#12 Bypass— it might be worthwhile for your owner to pay for a little grading and get the front of your listed lot filled and seeded prior to marketing issues. The Highway Department has no problem with it at this time. It might be wise to not have any possibility of someone claiming there are wetlands along the front of your lot in the future—could hold up a permit and create the need for another spendy and time consuming wetlands delineation process. Let us know if you want any help coordinating this, or including this work in with our grading for a reimbursement. There might even be some extra fill coming up with the excavation for our client's pool —we never know until we dig it. You have a great listed property. Our home is entered in the June Luxury Home Tour. If it is still available, I would bet on the tour traffic delivering a buyer for it. Let us know if we can help in any way. > Jeffrey Gustafson 612-296-6768. CJ✓ yt4 -� -r,,, L L,/ C a � 4 7 4/7/2004