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HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-28-1991 City Facilites Public Hearing Minutes-,4 PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 ROLL The Council met on the above date with the following members present: Mayor Barbara Peterson, Councilmembers Edward Callahan, J. Diann Goetten, Gabriel Jabbour and Mary Butler. The following represented the City staff: Acting City Administrator John Gerhardson, Building & Zoning Administrator Jeanne Mabusth, Finance Director Tom Kuehn, Police Chief Stephen Sullivan, City Attorney Tom Barrett, City Clerk Dorothy Hallin and City Recorder Teri Naab. Jack Boarman, Boarman & Associates, architect /consultant; and Carolyn Drude, Ehlers & Associates, financial advisor to the City were present along with Ron Moorse newly appointed City Administrator. Mayor Peterson called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. OPEN PUBLIC HEARING — AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION The Affidavit of Publication was noted. Mayor Peterson opened the meeting and introduced Edward Callahan as the first speaker to give a summary of the events which have taken place to date regarding the proposed facilities. INTRODUCTORY INFORMATION PRESENTATION Callahan welcomed all for coming to the meeting. He went on to explain that the City has come to the final chapters of the proposed facilities planning. He summarized those events as follows: In approximately 1985, Callahan was a member of the Planning Commission and there was an opening on the City Council. The Mayor at the time, Mary Butler, and City Administrator Bernhardson asked Callahan at that time if he would like to be on the City Council for which he responded enthusiastically. He was asked at that time what his feelings were on a new City Hall. He explained that after living in the area 10 -15 years, he barely even knew were City Hall was located. It hadn't occurred to him that changes were needed. He asked the following: a) what City Hall; b) why do we need a City Hall; and c) how much will it cost. The need and costs were explained to him, and things have not changed much since then in regards to the general plan or need for the facility. At this time it was close to an election and he received a call from a member of the Council explaining an uproar from the citizens was expected regarding a letter in the paper which said $2.5 million was to be spent that evening to build the new building. At the meeting, citizens did show up and it was explained to them the Council was not approving any expenditures at that time for a new City Hall. 1 PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES AUGUST 28, 1991 r' During the election that year, the subject of a new City Hall was controversial. Mr. Printup at the time termed the new facility a Taj Mahal and ran his campaign on the platform that the City should not be allowed to build such a structure. Since no one on the Council was planning to build anything of the sort, they took the opposite side of the argument. The election resulted in changes to City Council and the new Council felt a need to do something about the facilities. The question of actual need and size was discussed. There was a meeting at which the citizens came forward and there was a serious debate as to whether or not a consultant should be hired to determine space needs or whether the internal staff could determine those needs. It was determined that a consultant should be hired and there were meetings to determine who to hire, with very little input from the public.. In 1986 Boarman and Associates was retained for the purpose of studying the space needs and making a recommendation about them. After a period of time, a report was received from the consultant which was quite lengthy. The Council, Planning Commission and staff members then took a tour of several City facilities which Boarman thought bore some relationship to the City of Orono. They included: Southlake Public Safety Building, Champlin, Mendota Heights and Chaska. Those cities all had new facilities, all costing different amounts and with different organizations. Several meetings were then held on the general layout of the building and rough plans were prepared by Boarman's office and the general picture of the size of the building to accommodate the needs. By this time it was mid -1990. All of the meetings were open to the public and usually occurred within the Council meeting. The general layout of the building was square or rectangular. At this same time, location of the facilities became an issue. Callahan had at that time felt the Crystal Bay site would work fine. That was not a universally accepted view at the time. Boarman- was .asked to look at.other sites in the community.. He returned with 3'site options, including: the Old Crystal Bay Sewer Pond, Highway 12, and the Crystal Bay site. The Council was split on the decision of location. Boarman suggested a Citizen's Committee be organized for a recommendation. The Committee was comprised of 30 persons originally, Council Members were not on it nor did Council participate in the deliberations of that body. The report from that Committee recommended that Highway 12 was the best location. An option to buy the Highway 12 land was obtained in case the site was selected for the proposed facilities. The Council and Committee had held a meeting which was rather heated because of the split opinions, but,in the end the option was taken for the Highway 12 site. 2 PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 The election of that year intervened with the progress at that point, even though the issue was a part of the election. This year the Council has actively worked on the realization of this project. The site selection was the first matter the Council had to decide upon. Public meetings were held by the Citizen's Committee, Planning Commission and Council for the determination of location selection. The result of the information presented was the recommendation of the Highway-12 site, which is the site we now have exercised our option on. Callahan felt that the difficulty of the Crystal Bay site was that it was too small to put both the public works and administration /police on the same site unless condemnation of some homes was undertaken, which the Council did not want to do. The old sewer pond property was determined not to be suitable for the public works department. Also, if the administration /police building were�to be placed at Crystal Bay, water would have to be supplied, including building a water tower and this would add considerably to the cost. Public meetings were held on both the design of the buildng and the construction manager issue. A Design Committee was formed which included the Council, 3 Planning Commission members, and the Chair from the Citizen's Committee. It was decided that a construction manager would be retained to assist and advise regarding cost benefit analysis of the building and the costs of the building. Maureen Bellows, Planning Commissioner, was extremely helpful in this choice as she i's a. professional architect and is familar with the basic contracts and language. It was determined that City staff was not equiped to watch the construction closely enough without outside full —time assistance. The firm of Krause Anderson was retained. This organization has done a considerable amount of work in this area and has worked with Boarman extensively. The construction manager has been helping for about three weeks now. The next problem to resolve was the financing of the building. The Council determined that a HRA- should be formed and in effect create a sale and lease —back. Public meetings were held regarding this and it was covered quite extensively in the press. With that background, Callahan reiterated that there clearly was a need for new facilities not only because of the safety factors but because of lack of operational efficiency of the current buildings. Also, it is a matter of Community pride. Another question to be answered is how big should the new facilities be. The experts have reported that a much larger facility is needed to run, the City. Boarman has considered personnel, how many offices, what size of office, and what they are going to do when they get there. They have also taken into consideration growth of staff, possible in —house rather than contractural services such as engineer, assessor and attorney. 3 PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 1" — The police department also need a much larger facility as it has been mandated by the State and they need storage for their vehicles. The public works department's proposed space is two — thirds for storage (replacement cost of equipment owned is $1,400,000). The machinery needs to be kept out of the elements mainly for efficiency. There is some room figured in to the proposed building for expansion room. The size of the building is sometimes met by discussions of how big Plymouth is and how our building should be the same size in relation to population. That city does not closely compare with Orono and they are currently in the process of expanding as they do not have enough room. The purpose of cities is to provide services to the people. In measuring cities, it is important to note their ability to provide services and to what degree; i.e. are they stretched to the limit or could they do more. Cities of 10,000 - 15,000 seem to be working efficiently and economically. The cities of 2,000 or lower have the question of whether they can economically survive and provide all the services that citizens want. The City of Orono is between those numbers. The City has contracted with other cities because we have the ability to provide those services. We are not at the critical mass that we use up all the people that we need, and we are at the critical mass that we need all the people that we have. It is the judgement of the Council that we.cannot solve the space problem by cutting staff. The City is currently servicing about 91,000 feet of roads in the City, and about 120,000 lineal feet of sewer /water mains, in addition to parks and a few other things. The size of the buildings could be reduced by changing the shape to a square or rectangular building which would reduce the cost. No matter how small the building is proposed at, it could always be made smaller, however these are choices that the Council...is.not prepared to make.. r The size of the building determines about 75 -80% of the cost of the project, with the next factor the shape and external materials, and type of construction materials being a much smaller part of the cost. The cost is therefore determined by multiplying square footage by the cost per square foot. The architect has given a percentage of cost per square footage figured on his experience. In February of 1991 square footage needed was calculated to be approximately 29,000 s.f. for public works, and 19,500 for administration and police. The furniture and landscape are then added to this cost. By June of 1991 the square footage had been reduced for the administrative /police portion to about 17,500 s.f. and the public works department remained the same. The total cost was figured to be about $4,414,500 and about $4.5 million without the sale of land currently owned by the City. C! PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 There have been public meetings to reduce the size and cost of the building but still trying to maintain a level of quality that would be in keeping with the spirit of Orono. Since then the Design Committee has reduced the public works building to 24,700 s.f. and has been able to reduce the administrative /police building by another 1,000 s.f. making the size 16,500 s.f. The Committee has not addressed new furnishing for the building yet. The Committee has considered items such as large storage tanks for gas, which are quite expensive ($150,000- 200,000), which would permit us to buy gasoline at a $.05 /gallon cheaper which is estimated would pay for the tank installation within 5 years. Also sending people offsite to get repairs done or to fill tanks takes them away from their work. Now the total cost is approaching the $4.0 million mark and the Committee is hoping to reduce that further. The next question for the Council to resolve was how to finance the project. The Council determined to form a HRA and to engage in essentially a sale and lease —back. One result of that is that a referendum will not be necessary. The question of referendum is perhaps misunderstood by the public. The referendum that would have taken place would have been on a bond with a yes or no answer on that question only. There is no room for manuvering. If the result was "no, the bond should not be issued the whole process would stop and have to start all over. Quite often the referendum is a way for citizens to.express their pleasure or displeasure on the entire project. Callahan felt that the citizens have been very interested in this project from the onset and he wanted to assure them that the Council has carefully looked at all of the issues involved. He felt that most citizens felt there should be a new facility, however after that there is not a single factor that has an absolute answer. In the overall picture of the way that the citizens want Orono to be run, the citizens are satisfied as far as -their own input is concerned, and if they are not, it is not too late to change as the money has not yet been borrowed nor has a contract to build been finalized. The HRA, unlike the referendum method, gives us a flexible method of financing at a time when the lowest interest rate for bonds is available and construction costs are also down. The referendum could delay the project for an indefinite time. The City does have a large cash reserve, $2.5 to 2.6 million. However, the Council has not decided whether to use the entire reserve and borrow the remainder or to borrow the entire amount and keep the investment of the reserve. The general revenues of the City are also affected by this reserve as the City receives over $100,000 each year through interest. There are many reasons for maintaining the reserve, including the State closing down on the ability to tax and emergencies. A decision will have to be made within the next month or two. 5 PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES AUGUST 28, 1991 Mayor Peterson thanked Callahan for his synopsis and asked Jack Boarman to briefly explain the plans to date. Boarman showed the larger exhibits of the site, explaining the new frontage road to be constructed connecting to the east. He explained the site is approximately 15 acres. The administration /police /Council chambers will be located in three smaller structures with the public works across the wetlands. There have been 6 future positions figured into the proposed space within the administrative building. Within the police department there have been 2 patrol sergeants /investigators and 1 clerical position added. This project represents a 25 year projected plan. With the current zoning requirements, Orono will peak out at a population of about 9,000. This building would be usable well beyond the point that it is paid off. If the building does need to be expanded beyond these positions, the opportunity for expansion is available in the attic areas. There is also room for an addition. The Council has stated that they want to cover all possible future position expansions but build the smallest building possible. Mayor Peterson opened the meeting for public comments and asked people to limit their comments to two minutes. Al Peterson, 2075 Watertown Road, stated that he had a graph that he would like to present which would take about 5 minutes. Mayor Peterson asked that he present the graff to the Design Committee on Tuesday instead if it is in regard to design or size as all members of the Committee would like to see the graph. Mayor Peterson asked what Mr. Peterson's question was. A. Peterson asked if the stairways go to an attic, not a basement. .. Boarman explained the.r.e.is.no basement, and the attic is laid out for future use. There really isn't space plugged in, just mechanical equipment, less than 1,000 s.f. A. Peterson noted that he just wanted to change his graph to reflect the right figures. Mayor Peterson noted that this meeting is for the Council to let the public know what has been done to date. She noted that they want the public's questions, they do not want the public to come to the Council with proposals. A. Peterson explained he just had some comparisons. 2 n •. PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 LaDean McWilliams, 1130 Willow Drive South, asked if the Council Chambers scale is correct, and if so, it doesn't look much bigger than it currently is. She asked also if the kitchen /lunchroom would be available to the public during meetings such as St. George's facilities. Boarman explained the basic part of the Council Chambers is the same as present, however there are two portions adjacent with moveable walls for the public or anyone to use for meetings. If a bigger Council meeting were to take place, the wall could be removed and add almost twice as much in seating. Mayor Peterson noted that the rooms would be useable, but not to the scale as St. George's. Basically, the lunchroom /kitchen are to serve the staff during the day. Goetten noted that she had brought this subject up several times at the Design Committee meetings as during the past few years, in her own church, all the meeting rooms are filled all the time, day and night. She felt that a larger Council Chambers that could be divided up would be of a great benefit to the public. She noted that it is important to have the Council Chambers available to the public. Boarman noted that the building is layed out in three parts. This concept says that this building is a community building with public restrooms, bike path outside, eating area for staff during the day and available to the public in the evening.. This meeting center is divisible into three separate rooms. Al Peterson asked if he could now show his graph. Jabbour commented that the Council was not trying to avoid his questions or concerns, but the Council does not feel it is appropriate at this time to redesign City Hall. He noted that they have spent an enormous amount of time to design City Hall. He wanted to talk about the spirit of the building not the actual design. A. Peterson explained he is a State certified building inspector. After looking over the flyer, he started to investigate other cities regarding space for the facilities. Orono's proposed square footage for office and maintenance garages up until tonight 51,500 s.f., which has been changed now to 46,000. He noted that he surveyed 9 cities and averaged out what square footage they are working with, and the average was 19,237 s.f. Orono's proposed facilities would be 239% bigger than the average of those cities. The cities were: Mound, Buffalo, Savage, White Bear Township, Stillwater, Minnetrista, Shorewood, Princeton and Corcoran. He also averaged the population for those cities,, which was 7518 vs. 7285 for Orono. He averaged square miles and Orono's was 18 without the lake vs. 13.2 average for the 9 cities. Corcoran has 36 square miles with 4400 s.f. of maintenance /office /police comparing with Orono at 46,000. Minnetrista is at 32 square miles and total square 7 PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 footage is 16,500 s.f. Peterson wanted to know why are we building so big compared to all other cities surveyed. Jabbour noted that his comments in the past have not fallen on deaf ears. He felt that Peterson should concentrate on helping the Council. Jabbour noted that there are flaws in his scenario including services provided that have not been listed. He noted that the Council has labored on the design and has cut space by rearranging hallways, not cutting staff. He urged Mr. Peterson to come to the Design Committee meeting on Tuesday. A. Peterson explained that he brought his graph in to show how far away from Orono these cities which are relatively the same in size are. Goetten noted that the Design Committee has been meeting every week on Tuesdays, and she questioned if he thought they had nothing better to do with their time than recheck every square footage. She noted that everything has been gone over and that the Council does not want to tax any more than possible because they are taxing themselves at the same time. She also noted that there are many issues before the City at this time and the Council has devoted many hours to these issues: Goetten explained that the Council has looked at addressing the needs of the staff now and in the future. Jabbour asked where these cities are in the cycle of growth. He felt that if others used Orono in a comparison at this time, they would look very bad because Orono has relatively no space at the present time. A. Peterson said that he was not arguing the fact that new facilities were needed, but felt that Orono's proposed buildings were way over sized. Bill Miller, 2691 Casco Point Road, commended the Council on the efforts they have put forth and he noted that the facilities are needed as•the.•current• ones .are inadequate in-size.. .He.-felt _ that to compare to other cities was inappropriate.- -He asked if the construction manager was to act as a general contractor. Jabbour explained the preliminary bid for construction manager was 3% of the total cost of the building only. Goetten noted that is why they want to get the cost down. Jabbour explained that the construction manager will help in obtaining the general contractor through bids. He is also assisting the City with the engineering. Miller wanted to know how the tax proration was figured. He asked if it was calculated by mill rate, and why is it going millage vs. same cost to everyone. 8 PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 Jabbour noted that this theory goes back to the State's theory of the ability to pay, which everyone is trying to do something about. The numbers quoted could be 20 -30% lower. Maureen Steele Bellows, 265 Brown Road South, explained that she is a member of both the Planning Commission and the Design Committee and noted that the information presented by residents has been frustrating as many times the information has been proven inaccurate. For instance, Shorewood recently hired her firm to build a new public works building. She felt that people should come to the Design meetings, know what they are talking about, be willing to listen and last of all be willing to do some homework. Skip Casco Point Road, asked if the projected costs were based on the current population or the estimated 9000 maximum population. He felt that there should be more information available. Carolyn Drude, Ehlers & Associates, financial advisor to the City, explained what they have assumed is no growth so that if there is growth over the period of 15 years, the dollar amount to the taxpayer would become less. Skip asked if the existing surplus building funds have been set aside for the building. Are there other funds in reserve? Callahan noted there are some other funds. in reserve, however it is different than corporate accounting as there as specific funds such as park dedication, etc. Skip felt that is was reasonable to expect the Council to show a curve of population differences, etc. so the public knows what they are dealing with. Jabbour noted that is where they are exacting. The Council explained that spending some of the reserves could affect the taxpayer greatly. He noted that some of the money may be used,, and some may be put in escrow: The City has been fortunate*to be able to borrow at a lower rate than can. be obtained through investment. He felt that the market will get better as time goes by. Jabbour noted that the Council must find the scenario in which the Council will be spending the least amount on the project. Their main concern is what is the cheapest, most effective way to run Orono. Callahan explained that the bonds go out at an average and may actually be borrowed at a lower rate. Also, at the point when they start to exceed the average amount, the City has an option to call the bonds and reissue. Julian Hook, 2650 Kelly Avenue, asked if the $2.5 million is with accrued interest. M PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 N Jabbour noted that some of the interest has been used by the general fund. Finance Director Kuehn noted that the $2.5 million is the net out of certain funds. It probably earns $150,000 per year. All the interest is not used per year. John Farnham, 3225 Carman Road, explained that he continues to be intrigued by the criteria that was used to select the size. He noted that there seems to be two different theories going: comparison theory and based on need. He felt that basing things on needs, wants, wishes or dreams get all mixed up sometimes and he felt that there should be a check or control on the needs. Jabbour noted that Mr. Farnham has been invited to Design Committee meetings in the past and has never shown up. He therefore felt that Farnham has no way of knowing-how the Council has reached their decision. He explained that the Design Committee is made up of very capable people. He also noted that standards for size in industry have been used to calculate. Jabbour invited Farnham to be a part of the solution. He noted that Mr. Farnham must spend all his time trying to disprove the Council's decisions. Farnham noted that he may show up at the next meeting. He also stated that he is not an expert on where to cut space. He noted that he does not spend all his time trying to prove them wrong. According to the federal government bible, a building should have 80 -180 s.f. per person. The proposed calculation has 500 s.f. per employee. Jabbour noted that the square footage allowed per person ranges from 58 s.f. /person to 750 s.f. /4 person with the administrator having the most square footage at 250 s.f. Desyl Peterson, 4385 Chippewa Road, explained that she cannot imagine the amount of time the Council has spent on all the issues before the City. She felt that the Council has been more than responsible and more than taxpayers could expect from anyone. She was astonished that they had been meeting on a weekly basis and on what they have done to cut the building down in size. She also noted that Orono does not have the second lowest tax rate in the County by accident. The Council has been very careful, 'and the result has been grossly inadequate. facilities. She is glad that future needs are being considered. She stated that she was glad there was not to be a referendum as she felt that they have been elected to represent the citizens in decision making and they expect them to bear that responsibility. Her first question about the building was, why can't the space around the Council Chambers be eliminated. 10 PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 Boarman explained that the entire area could be eliminated, but the Council room requires two exits by code, and because by opening the wall up and making the room one big room, it requires two exits and those exits have to be half the diagonal distance apart. As the rooms are closed the individual rooms need exits. This last week the hallway has been reduced by 5' by eliminating seating. If the entire area was cut, there would have to be large doors exiting directly to the outside and that would cause more problems than the 5' lobby. D. Peterson noted that the breathalizer room and a secured area had been eliminated, will the breathalizer now be adequately secured for evidence purposes? Boarman noted that they are trying to double use the booking area, and if that doesn't work as that, they may have to reorganize. D. Peterson noted that in both the police and public works departments there are locker rooms that are inequitable. Boarman noted that the locker area could be placed in the center with a moveable wall to allow for flexibility. He felt that this is a good point. D. Peterson felt that the building has not been designed too big. Harriet Smith, 370 North Arm Drive, asked if the $80 /s.f. was a moderate amount. Boarman noted that the $80 /s.f. is a median cost of 70 cities surveyed which ranged from $63 -108. $80 is the maximum that the Council feels appropriate. Council has been working towards the $70 /s.f. amount. He also noted that different parts of the building cost different amounts and this is just an average. Laurie Peterson, Watertown Road, noted that it is a big building and wanted to know how they intended to heat the facility. Jabbour explained they have looked into venting, recirculating the air, trapping the heat going out, reconditioning the heat coming in, and tried to figure the payback of all these things. L. Peterson wanted to know what a quiet room in the police department was. Goetten explained that it is a room, especially for kids, in which staff can handle sensitive situations. 11 PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 Boarman noted that it is basically a conference room with soft seating. The style of the room is meant to deal with the psychological processes that the police department are taking people through in the event of a tragedy. L. Peterson noted that there are many specialized rooms in the police department. Police Chief Sullivan explained that there are 16 officers and 18 reserves and a large area is needed for a total departmental meeting. He felt that a collapsible wall was the best solution. He noted that the department is responsible for emergency management /civil defense. Also the State has mandated space requirements. Boarman explained that there are few actually working at the police department, but rather it is used -more for a housing /storage area. It is a collection /processing /housing place. Jabbour noted that since April 1990 the administration /police building has been reduced by 20% and he felt that this was a large cut. He is hoping that the construction manager will help with his experience. L. Peterson noted that the Public Works Director has an office, in the administrative building and there are two offices in the public works building. She wanted to know .if they were necessary. Gerhardson explained there are 2 supervisors who are in their offices 50% of the time. Boarman explained that offices for the supervisors will be used for employee one —on —ones, record keeping, OSHA reports, etc. There is no planned clerk for these people so they must do their own filing, etc. L'. Peterson asked why the expansion area is so necessary if Orono is not going to grow that much more. Boarman noted that the expansion areas represent services which are now being purchased through consultants. L. Peterson felt that when growth slows, we will not need as many people. Goetten maintained that when the growth tops out there will still be a need to work with surrounding communities as the service level is getting to a point that cities cannot always take care of themselves because of the cost and it is becoming uneconomical for some cities to manage, and there could be a possibility in the future that as cities contract services as we do, there could be more of that. Cities may have to share services or contract. 12 P`UBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 Jabbour warned that most of the lake area will probably be subject to a major redevelopment. Staff will be busier than ever. Boarman noted that there is only 500 s.f. of future expansion planned which is approximately $40,000, and if added in the future it would be alot more than that price. Farnham commended the Council on working hard and felt they have tried to cut the project. He noted that he will probably be at the meeting on Tuesday. In the past he had contacted City Hall and no one there could tell him where it was to be held and he felt that he was getting the run — around. L. Peterson asked how long those meetings run. Goetten announced anywhere from 1 -2 hours. Carol Albrecht, West Arm, asked how many households there are in Orono. Gerhardson confirmed there are about 2700. Laurie Peterson asked how one would go about getting on a committee. Mayor Peterson explained that the Citizen's Committee was selected by random of people the Council had contacted with varying backgrounds. Goetten also noted that all openings are also published in the newspaper. Al Peterson asked if the City has considered a newsletter. Goetten explained in the past the Council was concerned with the cost factor, but there currently are too many issues and the Council is now working on a newsletter. Gerhardson invited anyone to come to City Hall to see the plans which are available to the public. Mayor Peterson introduced Ron Moorse. He will become the City Administrator effective September 9, 1991. Farnharm asked if the 1.75% increase is to the total tax bill or just the City's portion. Goetten explained that the numbers published are the worst possible scenario. Drude noted that the State has a new system replacing the mill rate with net tax capacity rate of which a 1.75% increase would be on your taxes for the facilities. 13 PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED CITY FACILITIES — AUGUST 28, 1991 Goetten thanked everyone for coming to the meeting. ADJOURNMENT It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Butler, to adjourn the public hearing for the proposed facilities at 9:50 p.m. Ayes 5, nays 0. ATTEST: Doro y . Hal &azt'� - Barbara A. Peterson, Mayor ) - City Clerk 9 14 /. l • ~