HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-13-1991 Council Minutesf
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING
HELD MAY 13, 1991
ROLL CALL:
The Council met on the above date with the following members
present: Mayor Barbara Peterson, Councilmembers J. Diann
Goetten, Edward Callahan. Gabriel Jabbour and Mary Butler. The
following represented the City Staff: City Administrator Mark
Bernhardson, Building a:-id Zoning Administrator Jeanne Mabusth,
Public Works Director John Gerhardson, Assistant: Planning and
Zoning Administrator Michael Gaffron, City Attorney T-,iomas
Barrett, City Engineer Glenn Cook, and City Recorder Laurie
Scheffler. Mayor Peterson called the ml :�eting to order at 7:10
p.m.
( #1 *)'CONSENT AGENDA:
'It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve the
Consen•,,: Agenda as presented All voted aye. Motion passed.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
( #3 *)REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL-22, 1991
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to .approve the
Minutes of the Regular Council Meeting held. April 20, 1991. All
voted aye. Motion passed.
( #4 *)BOARD OF REVIEW MEETING OF APRIL 30, 1991
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, 'to approve the
Minutes of the Board of Review Meeting held April 30, 1991. All
voted aye. Motion passed.
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Planning Commission Representative, Sara Moos, was present, but
had no comments at this point in the meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Alan Nettles - Asked Council to reconsider the Conditional Use
Permit granted in relation to the Toberman property located at
1960 Shoreline Drive, based oa Court of Appeals decisions
recently made. Nettles also advised that there is now case law
stemming from the County of Isanti v. Mary Ann Peterson case,
which addresses the issue of voluntary /involuntary abandonment of
an activity for which a Conditional Use Permit was granted.
Bill Wear - Stated that there is an outstanding bill in the
amount or $800 involving damage to a power line that resulted
from the installation of water and sewer lines in front of his
property. Hie asked the City to pay the outstanding bill and to
also replace the judicial markers that were removed.
Don Germanson (President of the Lake Minnetonka Lakeshoreowner's
Association), invited Council to attend a gathering at the
Pillsbury home Sunday, May 19, 1991, from 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p:m.
- 1 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
( #5 *)ZONING FILE #1626 -TIM TRAFF
2683 NORTH SHORE DRIVE
VARIANCE - RESOLUTION #2960
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to adopt
Resolution #2960, granting lot width, lot area, and side yard
setback Variances to construct a new home at 26)83 North Shore
Drive. All voted aye. Motion passed.
(#6)ZONING FILE #1629- MCNULT7 CONSTRUCTION
1700 FOX STREET
VARIANCE- RESOLUTION #2961
Jim McNulty was present.
It was moved by Callahan, seconded by Mayor Paterson, to
adopt Resolution #2961, granting Variances required to construct
an addition to an existing oversized accessory structure located
at 1700 Fox Street. Motion; Ayes -4, Butler, Nay. Motion passed.
( #7)ZONING FILE #1631 - CHARLES a ANN HOMMEYER
475 LINDEN AVENUE
VARIANCE RESOLUTION #2962
Charles and Ann Hommeyer were present.
Bernhardson gave a brief explanation of the Hommeyer's
request, noting that it is a renewal Variance, and everything set
forth in Resolution #2300 would apply, with the exception of a
recommended revision, excluding the condition pertaining to
payment of a $390.00 Park Dedication Fee.
Butler asked if it is necessary for the property owners to
re -apply for this Variance.
Mabusth advised that this is the f'Lrst Variance renewal
request the Hommeyer's have made. The prior applications for lot
area Variance were submitted by previous property owners.
Mr_ Hommeyer added that he has an option to purchase the
property, and that the purchase price is based on the property
being a buildable lot at this time. He stated that before
purchasing the lot, he. wants assurance that it is in fact
buildable_ Hommeyer said, "I have no intention of building on
this lot, and am buying it solely as a buffer."
Mabusth further advised that this Variance, if approved,
would expire in one year, and that it may be more sensible for
renewal to be sought at the time there are plans to develop the
lot, unless.there is a change in zoning.
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Goette.n, to adopt
Resolution #2962, granting a renewal of a lot area Variance
- 2 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #7)ZONING FILE #1631 - HOMMEYER CONTINUED
originally granted November 23, 1987. All voted aye. Motion
passed.
( #8)ZONING FILE #1633 - ANDREW MCDERMOTT
2702 WALTERS PORT LANE
VARIANCE- RESOLUTION #2963
Andrew McDermott was present.
Bernhardson re6viewed the issues involved w_th Mme.
McDermott's Variance request, as outlined in Jeanne Mabusth's
April 11), 1991 memo. He noted that the Planning Commission
recommended approval of this application.
Goetten stated triat hardcover iz the 75 -250 foot setback
area exceeds what is allowed. She indicated that she would like
to see the 5.57% of landscaping plastic removed in light of the
McDermott's request °to add hardcover to the property.
Callahan stated that excess hardcover, in the form of
landscape areas with underlying plastic, is not allowed and is to
be automatically removed.
Goetten agreed with Callahan, and noted that the -Planning
Commission had not included removal of the landscaping plastic in
their recommendation for this application.
McDermott stated that his improvement plans do not include
any improvements within the 75 -250 f1D0t setback area.
Goetten indicated to Mr. McDermott, that in her opinion, a
request to remove 5% e;ccess hardcover -from the 75 -250 f-Dot
setback area was not asking too much, and would bring the
hardcover percent closer to the 25% allowed for that area.
Jabbour concurred with Goetten.
=t was moved b%T Goetten, seconded by Jabbour, to adopt
Resolution- #2963, as amended, • to include language - requiring -the.
applicant to remove 5.57% hardcover from the 75 -250 foot setback
area. Jabbour requested Staff to bring back for Council's review
information depicting alternatives to landscaping plastic that.
may be acceptable from a hardcover standpoint. All voted aye.
Motion passed.
( #9)ZONING FILE #1635 -JOHN O'SULLIVAN /ERWIN SMITH
2420 SHADYWOOD ROAD
VARIANCE - COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN- RESOLUTION #2964
John O'Sullivan was present.
Bernhardson. pcovided a 'grief e.-,planation of the . request to
place an addition onto O'Sullivan's Service Station.
- 3 -
M
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #9)ZONING FILE #1635- O'SULLIVANS CONTINUED
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Mayor P�- terson, to adopt
resolution #2964, approving the Commercial Site Plan, and
granting a :side yard setback Variance, to construct an addition
to the car wash facility located at 2420 Shadywood Road. All
voted aye. Motion passed.
( #10)ZONING FILE #1638 -CITY OF ORONO
1385 BROWN ROAD SOUTH
VARIANCES
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to
table this application. All voted aye. Motion passed.
( #11)ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS:
SECTION 10.02- FACILITIES OF OTHER PUBLIC ENTITIES
ORDINANCE #94, SECOND SERIES
It was moved by Callahan, seconded b% Buutler, to adopt
Ordinance #94, Second Series, amending Section 10.02 of the
Municipal Zoning Code by adding a definition of municipal
buildings or facilities. All voted aye. Motion passed..
SECTION 10.61 - TEMPORARY SIGNS
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to
refer this item back to the Planning Commission for their review.
All voted aye. Motion passed.
ENGINEER'S REPORT:
( #12 *)NAVARRE HEIGHTS STORM SEWER- ACCEPT BIDS
RESOLUTION #2965
It was moved by Goetten, seconded -by Butler,, to adopt
Resolution #2965, accepting bids for the Navarre! Heights storm
sewer project. All voted aye. Motion passed.
( #13)REQUEST FOR PAYMENT V- PUMPHOUSE #3
It was moved b1• Butler, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to
approve Pay Request #7, for "Richmar Construction, in the amount
of $5,235.15, for the Pumphouse #3 project. All voted ale.
Motion passed.
MAYOR /COUNCIL REPORT:
( #14)JOINT COUNCIL /PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Mayor Peterson stated that her son is going to be awarded a
scholarship on the same evening scheduled for the Joint
Council./Planning Commission meeting. It was also noted that May
21 was a School Board Election day, and that as such, the meeting
coo -d not start until 8:01 p.m. Mayor Peterson apologized for
the inconvenience of rescheduling. S;�e asked Planning Commission
Chaim Kelley to poll the. Planning Commission- members regarding
another meeting date, and that she would then contact him.
- 4 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #15 *)LAKE MINNETONKA CABLE COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
RESPONSE TO INQUIRY
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to acknowledge
receipt of the information from the Lace Minnetonka Cable
Communications Commission regarding issues raised by Mr. Patrin
at the Council's April 8, 1991 Council meeting. All votied aye.
Motion passed.
OTHER
Callahan suggested that the i:3sue raised by Alan Nettles
earlier this evening should be placed on the agenda for Council's
next meeting, and that the City Attorney provide his opinion of
the new information at that time. It was also suggested that Jim
Gilbert, Attorney for Mr. Toberman, be advised that the issue
will be reconsidered.
i
Callahan also suggested that the issue of the Long Lake
Police Contract be included for discussion on the agenda for an
,;upcoming Council meeting.
Jabbour suggested that it would be more efficient if
Councilmembers received one agenda packet delivery.
Goetten concurred with Jabbour. She stated that it is
difficult to keep track of what agenda items have and have not
been received.
Butler also agreed, adding that when she served a:5 M:1yor,
she received one packet on Friday and that worked well.
Mayor Peterson indicated that she had -no objections to
receiving the entilre packet at once, but preferred to have it
delivered before Friday.
Jabbour suggested that Staff could perhaps deliver one
packet on Thursday.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
( #16)CITY FACILITIES SITE SELECTION
Steve Wilson'and Charlie Kelley, Facilities Committee Chair
and Planning Commission Chair, respectively, were present. .
Bernhardson presented Council with facility site
recommendations from the Facilities Committee and Planning
Commission. He stated that both had recommended the H=_ghway 12
site on which-the City has an option.
Mayor Peterson referred to a "Citizen's Alert" notice that
had been circulated throughout the Community. She- stated that
the first paragraph incorrectly states that the mt- Feting this
evening would be the last chance for the public to express their
- 5 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
(#16)CITY FACILITIES CONTINUED
opinions on this issue. Mayor Peterson advised that the only
issue Council would consider aild vote on this evening pertained
to the facilities site. S:ie further advised that there would be
several additional Public: Hearings scheduled pertaining .o the
actual-buildings and costs.
John Farnham commended Council on their efforts to improve
the facilities site selection process from that which was taking
place last simmer a:zd f•311. He stated that, in his opinion,
Council was too dependent on its professional advisors. Farnham
believed that the recommendation made by the Facilities Committee
may not have represented a consensus of the entire Committee, nor
did is represent the opinions of the Community at large.
Farnham stated that there was no Press coverage, or Press
Releases for the Facilities Committee and Planning Commission
meetings, and felt that there has beea a lack of communication
between the City and the Public. He asked that Council provide
the residents with more information pertaining to all the factors
that went into the recommendation, and to then have a referendum
or poll to get input from the general public.
Mike Ellis, 1020 South Old Crystal Bay Road, disagreed with
the statements made by Farnham, and indicated that he would like
to see Council make a decision on a site so that the process can
continue. Ellis stated that he would like to see Council
exercise their option on the Highway 12 property.
Butler agreed with Mr. Ellis, that it is time for Council to
make a decision and get on with the process.
Rich Wysocki, 2770 Rainey Road, ask,ad - how the purchase of
the property will be f•.inded, and how much the Highway. 12
property will cost.
Mayor Peterson replied, "The purchase price of the Highway
s.2 site is $292,000 and the City has set aside enough money to
purchase that property if that site is selected."
Jabbour indicated that he wished to respond to some of the
:statements made by Farnham. He stated that he sought election to
the City Council because he did not believe there was sufficient
communication between the City and its residents. Jabbour said,
"I belierae that this Council has gone to extensive measures to
keep the Public apprised of what we are doing. The
Councilmembers matte themselves accessible to the public. I do
not believe it is in.the c-itizens' best interest to d::lay our
site decision any longer. The economy is such that we are in an
advantageous position at this time. I urge my fellow
Councilmembers not to adjourn this meeting until we have selected
a site and given direction to Staff to proceed with the projec.t."
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
($16)CITY FACILITIES CONTINUED
Goetten agreed with Jabbour that prior to the elections, the
City facilities process was not as it should have been, and that
since that time, Council has taken this issue back to the people
for their input. She indicated that she would like to have the
City provide some form of written communication to the residents
regarding whatever decision is made this evening, and what will
happen next. Goetten reiterated MrLyor ,Peterson's earlier
statements about the fact that this meeting is not the last
opportunity for residents to be heard on the issue of a new City
facility. She assured the public that Council has given this
issue a great deal of consideration, and would make an informed
decision.
Norm Paurus. 2500 Casco Point Road, stated that he would
like 'Council to select the existing site for the new facilities
in lieu of the Highway 12 location. He indicated that the
majority oL Orono residents live south of Highway 12, and the
existing location is more centrally located and convenient to the
voting public: He said, "I would like to see the Council vote
their conscience for the voting public and the citizens you will
be serving for the next 50 years, rather than considering a site
based on its 'convenience for the professionals to develop."
Goetten asked Bernhardson if there have been any complaints
from the residents regarding response time of the Orono Police
from their location near Highway 12.
Bernhardson replied, "There have been no such complaints of
which I am aware. The squad ca --.s are deployed within, the
Community at all times. The issue of response time may be more
important if we were dealing with a Fire Department where all
vehicles are dispatched from one location."
Jabbour stated that prior to his election to the City
Council, he had served on the Facilities Committee. He said,
"One of the reasons I thought the Highway i2 site was more
suitable was the fact that we could have all of the facilities on
one site. The other issue was cost, and I had thought we may
save money if we c1-1ose Highway 12 over the existing site. I
would like to know tonight if that is in fact true. At our last
meeting, Jack Boarman indicated that, if given a preference, he
would select the existing site. .That made me wonder if the
existing site is in fact less eX pensive than the Highway 12
site."
Boarman explained that he had based that statement on a
situation where Council considered the most important criteria to
be that of centrality.
Jabbour stated that as a member of the Facilities Committee
he had reached his decision in a business -like manner,
- 7 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #16)CITY FACILITIES CONTINUED
considering finances, acid the ease in which a site would lend
itself to development. Fie said, "I now find myself, as a
Councilmember, getting more involved from a historical and more
personal standpoint. The fact that City Hall has been here for
many, many years, and this is where the citizen's come for City
services, seems more important to me now. I would like to know
if this site will in fact cost more to develop than the Highway
12 site."
Boarman replied, "The cost issue involving development of
this site and the sewer plant site, as opposed to the Highway 12
site, is very close to a wash. There are offsetting factors
because each site has different development requirements.
However, there are o -her criteria to consider, such as, size of
the building, and the ability or need to further expand it, which
comes back to cost. We developed a :wilding of 15,000 to 17,000
square feet based on the space study to meet the needs of the new
administrative /police facility. It is possible to put a. building
with that amount of square footage on this site, however, it will
have to be two- stories, which will affect the cost issues. If
Council agrees to place a one -story building with less square
footage on this site, then there would be cost considerations for
future expansion. This site would be more expensive •than the
Highway 12 si.te if there is a need to expand in the future."
Boarman went on to say that it is much more efficient to
locate all facilities on one site, as opposed to split sites. It
means having only one large parking area, one employee lunch
room, better situated and utilized storage space, etc. He also
noted that in cases where a public works facility is separated
from the main administrative building, it is common for the
public works director to have an office in each building.
Callahan asked Boarman if in fact it would be possible to
put all of the facilities on the existing site.
Boarman replied, "No; that is not possible."
Callahan said, "In other words, when you talk about
comparable costs, you a3re referring to the cost of constructing
only the administrative /police facility, to which would be added
the public works facility cost. If the existing s_te we-re
selected, it may be more expensive than locating all facilities
on one site. We would need to either purchase additional
property for the public works facility, and /or pay the cost for
installing a well and sprinkler system in that building if it is
located on the sewer plant property. We would also have the
additional cast for a well to sprinkle the administrative /police
facility. As I understand it, we can put both facilities on the
sewer pi.ant p +_operty, which would .save the cast of a �pos.sible
land acquisition and the cost of one well."
I
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
('#16)CITY FACILITIES CONTINUED
Bernhardson added that if both facilities were constructed
on the sewer plant property, it would be necessary to consider
the loss of funds resulting from t1ne inability to sell tizat
property.
Callahan said, "It seems to me that it would be more cost
efficient to construct facilities on one site as opposed to two
different locations. In light of that, and the additional costs
for land acquisition and wells, I would think that the Highway 12
site would be less expensive."
Boarman said, "The initial costs approach a wash between the
sewer plant, Highway 12 and existing site."
Bernhardson interjected, "It was my understanding that it
would cost approximately $100,000 to $150,000 more to split the
facilities between this location and the sewer plant site, than
to place everything on Highway 12."
Boarman stated that he considers that difference to approach
a wash.
Callahan asked Councilmembers for their. opinions -regarding
construction of one or more facilities on the sewer plant
property.
Butler indicated that all facilities should be located in
one place.
Goetten did not think it wise to place the facilities in the
midst of a residential neighborhood.
Mayor Paterson and Jabbour stated that they would not object
to one of the facilities being placed on the sewer plant
property, but not both.
Butler asked Boarman if Council should select the -existing
site, what the plans and costs would be for a temporary facility
that would allow' administrative functions to continue while a
facility is constructed.
Boarman replied, "We have included a rental factor of
$35,000 to $50,000 into the schedule of costs for the existing
site. That would allow a year of rental, heating and operations
at another site. We have found it to be far more efficient to
rent space off -site during the construction period."
Butler ask-ad where, in light of the concerns involving the
City Hall's central location, such a temporary site might be.
Boarman stated that some cities have opted to rent retail
9 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #16)CITY FACILITIES CONTINUED
space in strip malls, and other such alternatives.
Butler noted that the City of Orono does not have a strip
mall.
Boarman indicated that it would then be necessary to locate
the temporary operations outside of the City of Orono.
Dave :Peterson urged Council to consider factors other than
the $100,000 to $150,000 cost differenti_l n their
decision - making process. He also s=ated that given the
conditions of the existing Cite Hall, it may be appropriate for
the City t.:> rent an alternate space as soon as possible,
regardless of which site is selected.
Susie Swanson stated that she has been a Casco Point
resident since 1944, and that she resides within the Mound School
District, shops in Navarre, has a Wayzata mailing address, but
yet she resides within the City or Orono. Swanson stated that
though the issue of identity is intangible, the present, central
location of the, Orono City Hall gives her a sense of identity.
She believed that some of O::ono's community spirit would be lost
if the new facility is located up on Highway 12. Swanson
suggested that it may be worthwhile to spend additional money to ,
retain a more neighborly quality.
Curt Quady stated that the residents, voted in a new.Mayor
and Councilmembers becau=se they did not like the process that was
occurring with respect to the new facilities. He felt that the
majority of Orono taxpayers wish to keep the Cite Hall in the
existing location. Quady urged Council to select the existing
site.
Sam' Marfield s mated that he first moved to Orono 17 years
ago because he liked the small -town government. He preferred to
have Council choose the existing site, which holds sentimental
value to him.
April Wysocki agreed that a small -town atmosphere is better.
She agreed, however, that it would be difficult, from an
administrative standpoint, to locate the public works facility on
the sewer plant site, and administration on the existing site.
Ms. Wjrsocki also stated that she lives next to the sewer plant
property and would not want the public works facility on that
site.
Steve Wilson stated that the Facilities Committee dedicated
a lot of time to this issue and they have a vested interest in
their recommendation. He said, "A number of people here this
evening are urging Council to go against our recommendation. Our
recommendation was the unanimous consensus of the 13 members of
- 10 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #16)CITY FACILITIES CONTINUED
the Committee,, who a,--e also residents of this Community. The
Orono Planning Commission voted unanimously to adopt our
r_•ecommendation. The only factor that really favors this site, as
opposed to the Highway 12 location, is centrality. The initial,
primary argument which favored this site was;that originally we
thought it to be less expensive- One that was no longer the
case, then centrality became the positive aspect. It would be
one thing if this site could support all facilities. It cannot,
and 10,000 square feet of building space will not be adequate.
The Facilities Committee agreed with the consultants that 15,000
square feet is needed. If the City chooses a split site, there
will be neighbor opposition to placing the public works facility
at the sewer plant property."
Rich Kiemen, 1212 Briar Street, asked what would happen to
the buildings on the existing site if the Highway 12 site is
selected.
Mayor Peterson replied, "Council has not discussed what
would happen to this property. It could be sold or converted
entirely into'a park."
Butler added that °_.here . are really no 'other options than
those two.
Jabbour indicated that the City has made a commitment to
tearing down the- existing buildings, should another site be
selected.
Mayor Peterson added, "All of the buildings would come down,
with the exception of the Post Office, and possibly this Council
Chambers."
Gary Printup, _1261 B:: iar Street, stated that there a.-.-e
possible ways to expand the facilities should they be constructed
on this site, such as purchasing adjacent parcels that come on
the market for sale. Printup noted that was done in .the past ,to_..__._...,
acquire the building in which City Hall now exists.
Bill Wear expressed concern regarding the traffic congestion
that,already exists on Highway 12. He stated that given that the
Highway 11.2 property, on which the City has an option, is located
on the north side of Highway 12, it will be difficult to access.
Wear stated that 95% of Orono residents live on the south side of
Highway 12 and would have to cross it, at what is a very bad
intersection, in order to go to City Hall to take care of
business they may have.
Wilbur Anderson read a .letter that
27, 1918, regarding the property on which
The letter refers to a restricted deed for
- 11 -
had been written March
the City Hall now sits.
Lot 3, Block 1,
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
(#16)CITY FACILITIES CONTINUED
Crystal Bay, Minnetonka, and i3 signed by a Lewis F. Page.
Anderson asked Council if they have studied the records
pertaining to the title of the City Hall property, and stated
that perhaps nothing else can be done with the property.
Rich Wysocki expressed concern regarding the effect the 12
inch well installed on the existi g site, should it be chosen,
would have on other wells in the area.
Jabbour advised Mr. Wysocki that the well would only be
utilized in the case of a fire.
Norm Paurus again urged Council to consider the existing
site.
Goetten stated that it is sometimes difficult for people to
accept change. She said, "I think Council would be extremely
short - sighted if we selected the existing site and the sewer
plant property on Old Crystal Bay Road. Whatever facilities we
do construct, will have to last and be adequate to serve for a
very long time. I do not agree with the aspect of granting
ourselves Variances for this property. S:iould Council select the
Highway 12 site, that does not mean we are going to construct an
enormous, fancy facility. W:: are planning a residential -style
building in keeping with Orono's rural character. The City of
Orono is growing, and it is the property north of Highway 12 that
is being developed. If it were possible to construct all of the
facilities on this location, I would be in favor of that.
However, that is not the case, and in my opinion, the Highway 12
site best suites our needs now and for the future. I base that
opinion on the various reasons that have been discussed this
evening, as well as the fact that it. does not make sense to
locat:� a new facility in a residential area. Such a facility
belongs in an area that has other quasi- commerical facilities."
Butler indicated that she agrertd wholeheartedly with
Councilmember Goetten's opinion..
Callahan stated that he, and Mayor Peterson, had favored the
existing site from the beginning of this process, and that for
the most part, he had based his opinion on cost factors. He
said, "After Council had voted - to exercise the option on the
Highway 1.2 s-ite, I became uncertain about the costs, and though I
still favored this site, there was the associated problem of
locating the public works department. I do not object to having
a split site, nor do -I see the need to grant Variances for this
site as a problem. Due to the decaying nature' of the existing
public works building, it is imperati=ve that we do whatever is
necessary to provide an alternate facility. Such a facility will
not fit on this site, so it would be necessary to purchase other
property, or locate it on the Crystal Bay sewer plant property.
- 12 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #16)CITY FACILITIES CONTINUED
I do not agree with the sewer plant property because that area is
residential, and neighborhood opposition has been expressed. Due
to the costs involved with splitting the sites, it was my
understanding that there would be a savings in the up -front costs
of the H:_ghway �12 s .te, as will as the obvious efficiency of
having all facilities on the same site. AS I came here tonight,
I was of the opinion, that the building would have to go on the
Highway 12 site. I am of the opinion, however, that the
buildings, if constructed on Highway 12, should be located on the
southwest quadrant, rather than on the north side.
At this poilt in time, I am now not certain that there will
be much of a difference in the up -front costs of the Highway 12
site versus the existing site. Now I am baffled. If the
economic reason is not as I thought it was, then I would just as
soon locate the buildings on this site."
Jabbour reiterated= that he had favored the Highway 3.2 site
When had was pert of the Facilities Committee. He based that
opinion on the cost '.factors, as well as his opinion that there
should be no condemnation involved with this process, the public
works facility should nut be placed iJa a residential
neighborhood, and -he did not favor the City granting itself
Variances. He said, "As a result of those various factors, it
became apparent, through process of elimination, that the H:_ghway
,.2 site was most suitable. After being elected to Council, I
became more aware of the historical significance of the existing
site. I am now in the same situation as Councilmember Callahan.
I am still not sure whether we will save money if we construct
the buildings on the Highway 12 site."
Mayor Peterson stated that she has always favored the
existing site for police and administration, and h -id the
understanding that the casts for this site and the H=_ghway 12
site would be approximate.'_y the same. She said, "I went back
and looked at the Comprehensive Plan, and it makes a statement
that the City.facilities should be unpretentious.__.I do not-think
the Highway 12 site would facilitate a structure that,- in the
eyes :of the Orono residents, would be unpretentious. I believe
that our Community has a great historical value in the existing
site. ; In my opinion, thoug_z I think I am in the minority, this
will continue to be the site I favor for the sake of preserving
the character of Orono, and the fact that this site is centrally
located. I believe that a police /administration building could
be constructed on this site without the need to grant ourselves
Variances."
Butler asked Mayor Peterson where she would eavision.the
public works facility if this site were selected.
Mayor Peterson stated that there have been no discussions
- 13 -
•
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #16)CITY FACILITIES CONTINUED
about the possibility of locating the public works in Navarre
next to Hennepin County's public works facility on County Road
15. She said, "That would be an option, however, I do favor the
Crystal Bay sewer plant property because I do not think we will
be able to sell it due to the building that now exists on it."
Bernhardson suggested having Jack Boarman display the
information showing the cost comparisons for the various sites.
Boarman displayed the information showing costs for all of
the options and possible combinations for sites, a,.-id briefly
explained the basis of the figures shown.
It was , moved by Mayor Peterson, seconded by Jabbour, to
select the existing Crystal Bay site for police /administration,
and the Crystal Bay Road sewer plant site for public works.
Butler cautioned Mayor Peterson to be sure that her motion is a
business decision, rather than an emotional reaction, so that the
significant amount of money spent, will be spent wisely. Butler
informed Council that she has worked in a situation with a split
work site and it proved to be an extremely inefficient and
cumbersome method of doing business. S *Lne stated that she would
be in favor of the existing site if it had adequate 'area to
accommodate all facilities. Callahan stated that he too had
experienced working with a split site mode of business and found
it to be difficult. Motion, Aves -2, Butler, Goetten, and
Callahan, Nay. Motion failed.
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Goetten, to direct
Staff to acquire they Highway -1.2 property, on which the City now
has an option, and commence preparation of the design plans for
the facilities, which are to be reviewed by Council. Callahan
reiterated that he would prefer to acquire the southwest quadrant
of property and loca::e the facilities in that area. He stated
that he did not favor burying the City Hall in with the School
facilities, which is related to a wider and different community
than that of.-the immediate City. By locating the .City Hall on
the southwest quadrant, it will give it somewhat of its own
identity. Jabbour stated that he would have concerns about how
future upgrades to Highway 12 may impact the property can the
south side of Highway 12, in light of the School site on the
north side. Goetten stated that in light of the condition of the
existing public works facility, the process should progress with
as little delay as possible. She added that the City was not
successful in its last attempt to secure the property in the
southwest quadrant, and would not want to waste time trying it
again. There was discussion as to when the option on the Highway
12 property should be exercised. Jabbour suggested waiting until
the building permit is: ready to be issued. Boarman stated that
there is a threo -weak to thirty -day requirement for bidding. any
construction. He suggested that the City should control.the
- 14 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #16)CITY FACILITIES CONTINUED
property prior to going out for any bids. Jabbour suggested that
the option be exercised when Staff and Council feel it is
appropriate to do so. Motion, Ayes -3, Mayor Paterson, Callahan,
Nay. Motion passed.
( #17)STUBBS BAY SEWER .
Bernhardson informed Council that interest had been
expressed by others wishing to participate on-the Stubbs Bay
Sewer Citizens Committee. He provided, for Council's
.consideration, a draft Charge, which would assist in the
direction of the Committee. Bernhardson also presented Council
with updated information pertaining to the City's alternate
method of addressing the Ziesmer's situation.
Goetten asked if there were any persons interested in
serving on the Citizens Committee present this evening.
Joyce Otten, a property owner on Crestview Avenue, indicated
that she would like to join the Citizens Committee, and that she
had sent a letter to the City expressing her interest.
It was the consensus of Council to appoint Ms. Otten to the
Stubbs Bay Sewer Citizens Committee. Mayor Peterson introduced
Ms. Otten to Dave Peterson, Committee Chair.
Council also indicated that they agreed to the draft Charge
as presented by Bernhardson.
It was moved by Callahan, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to
adopt a Charge for the Stubbs Bay Sewer Citizen: Advisory
Committee to focus its deliberations with an initial response
back to the Council by the forepart of July. All vot-ad aye.
Motion passed.
( #18)PARK COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION- BEDERWOOD PARR
Dick Flint, Jim Gilbert, Gary Larson, Todd Haugen, Liz
Levang and Sherokee Ilse were present for this matter.
Bernhardson informed Council that= Todd Haugen had requested
Council's review of the Park Commission's recommendation to
approve a request by the Orono Baseball Association to add
another day, Saturday, from approximately 10:00 a.m. to 2:00
p.m.,'to their scheduled use of Bederwood Park.
Goetten stated that it was her understanding that the Park
Commission was to review this issue, but'that they were to make a
recommendation to Council, who would have the final word.
Mayor Petersen agreed with Goetten, and add-ad that the
annual review of OBA's use of Bederwood Park was also to .come
before Council for their decision.
- 15 -
1
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #18)BEDERWOOD PARR CONTINUED
Goetten and Callahan concurred with Mayor Peterson, that
such was their understanding as well.
Mayor Peterson stated that she and Councilmember Goetten had
attended the May 7, 1991 Park Commission meeting where this issue
was discussed. She informed Council that in addition to the
issue of days the OBA could use Bederwood Field, there was also
some question as to whether the use was to continue for three
years, including the 1930 season, or for three years starting
with the 1991 season.
Callahan was of the opinion, from reading the minutes of the
March 26, 1990 Council meeting, that OBA's use-of Bederwood Park
was to end with the conclusion of the 1992 ball season.
Mayor Peterson indicated that such was her understanding,
but that Gary Larson had understood that the 1990 season was not
included.
Goetten informed Council that Gary Larson had.talked with
former Mayor Grabek, who indicated that the intent of the motion
he made was to allow OBA to use the field through 1993.
Dick Flint advised that the Park Commission has not taken a
position on the 1392/1993 issue.
Jabbour asked, "Is it not true though that a determination
should be made in that respect? It seems that issue is driving
other issues."
Flint replied, "We felt that in light of this issue being
reviewed on an annual basis, determining a specific deadline was
not necessary at this point."
Mayor Peterson explained, "The annual review was included as
a requirement to nudge OBA toward working on their master plan
with the School D_ strict."
Flint added, "That was not to be the only purpose for the
annual review. It was also to-serve as means to find. out if
there were any problems with the program."
Butler ask-ad if the program is in fact being run in an
appropriate manner.
Flint replied, "There were some issues raised, and a number
of compromises and agreements made between OBA and the residents.
One of those issues involved the use of a bull horn. Another
agreement made was that OBA would post their schedule at the Park
so the neighborhood could plan accordingly."
- 16 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #18)BEDERWOOD PARR CONTINUED
Callahan added, "As I understand it, OBA was serving food
from the concession stand which caught the attention o Health
Authority, who then approached the City. That has since been
corrected."
Gary Larson stated that prior to this meeting, the OBA and
neighbors had some positive dialogue. OBA is trying, to get the
residents to put their energy toward the mutually beneficial
solution of finding OBA a permanent site, rather than focusing on
the problems with the existing site. Larson indicated that there
is some momentum building with this School Board for the School
property.
Goetten commended Larson and the neighbors for taking the
time to talk together.
Liz Levang agreed that the exchange of verbal communication
between' the 'two groups- was positive. She wanted to remind
everyone, however, that this is not just an issue involving the
Bederwood Park area residents, it involves the general public.
Levang stated that the neighbors have tried to assist the OBA
with their efforts to secure the School property, which is best
suited to this kind of use. She said, " Bederwood Park' does not
lend itself well to this kind of use, and it goes against the
Comprehensive Plan. Bederwood is a neighborhood park and its use
by OBA turns it more into a community playfield. The best times
for most people to use the Park are the same times that OBA is
using the Park. The neighbors agreed that they could live with
this use through the 1,392 season. If that is going to change, we
need to know when we can expect OBA to leave so the Park can
revert back to its original use."
Butler asked if the participants in OBA's program are all
from the Orono School District.
Mayor Peterson stated that is correct.
Butler referred to earlier conversation regarding the City
facilities and the need for Orono to have an identity. She
stated that programs such as the OBA's are one way to give Orono
an identity. To the Bederwood Park neighbors Butler said, "I
know that situations are always worse when they are happening in
your front yard. However, keep in mind that what you are arguing
about, is constructive recreation of 9 through 12 year old
children on an organized basis that gives them a focus and
something of which to be proud, and something to achieve other
than building pipe bombs. I have four sons and am grateful for
programs such as that of the OBA."
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Mayor Peterson for the
purpose of discussion, to adopt the Park Commission's
- 17 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
(#18)BEDERWOOD PARK CONTINUED
recommendation -j.n its entirety. Mayor Peterson noted that she
served on the Par!," Commission at the time Bederwood Park was
being developed. At that time, there was a desire to have a
Little League field within the City of Orono. It was intended
that Bederwood Park would fulfill that need. S.ie said, "I agree
with statements made by Councilmember Butler. I believe that
this is what we, as Orono residents, can contribute to OBA."
Goetten urged the neighbors and OBA to continue working together
toward the permanent solution. All voted aye. Motion passed.
Weldon Dunn expressed concern regarding parking that is now
occurring on the east side of Stubbs Bay Road.
Goetten stated that she too has been concerned about the
safety problem with the parking situation, and asked John
Gerhardson to review the area again for a possible solution.
Jabbour commented that playing baseball in the Park is
appropriate as long as such a use does not totally dominate the
Park. He said; "This is supposed to be something fun for the
entire community, not a win /lore situation. I also urge both
parties to work toward a mutually beneficial solution. I do
think Council should send a message to OBA that there is a time
pressure for finding an alternate site."
Charlie Kelley asked if it would be appropriate for the City
of Orono to gat involved with acquiring land for a ;community
playing field facility.
Dick Flint st-ated that Bederwood Park is a neighborhood
park, and no= a community playfield. He noted that the Park
Commissior is working to develop a community playfield at the
School, and has worked with the School District toward that goal.
He informed Council that tree proposal they have before them,
drafted b %, Gar-_v Larson, has been presented to the School Board.
( #19)LAKE USE COMMITTEE
It was moved by Callahan, seconded by 'Mayor Peterson, to
accept the information presented. All voted aye. Motion
passed.
( #20)CITY COMMUNICATIONS
It was moved by Callahan, seconded by Goetten, to table this
item until the May 28th meeting, and direct Staff to place it on
the agenda so it will bf. discussed earlier in the meeting.
Goetten asked that Staff prepare a written communication to the
residents informing them of Council's vote on the facilities site
selection. All voted aye. Motion passed.
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
( #21)POLICE CHIEF SELECTION PROCESS
It was moved by Callahan, seconded by Butler, to accept the
information presented, and table this matter until the May 28,
1991 Council meeting. All voted aye. Motion passed.
( #22)LIQUOR VIOLATION REVIEW PROCESS
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to
table this matter until May 28, 1991, to give the City
Administrator and City Attorney the opportunity to further
discuss it. All voted aye. Motion passed.
( #23)PATROL OFFICER CONTINUED EMPLOYMENT
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to
confirm the extension of Of=ficer Timothy Roberts in a temporary
status until such time as either he or another person is
appointed and has commenced work in the capacity of a regular
appointment. All voted aye. Motion passed.
( #24 *)SEWER /WATER RATES - ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 95, SECOND SERIES
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to adopt
Ordinance #95; Second Series, setting fee changes for select
water and sewer rates effective July 1, 1991., All voted aye.
Motion passed.
( #25 *)HIGHWAY 12 CORRIDOR STUDY
It was moved "by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to accept the
information presented regarding the upcoming May meetings for the
Highway 12 Corridor Committees. All voted aye. Motion passed.
( #26 *)MUNICIPAL BOARD PROCESS
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to accept the
information presented regarding the Municipal Board process. All
voted aye. Motion, passed.
( #27 *)EMPLOYMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to authorize
Staff to hire David Joseph Goman as a part -tire employee,
assigned to beck up the Community Service Officer duties with a
salary not to exceed $3;400 _'_n 1991, or $5.,100 yearly thereafter,
at a rate of $5.304 per hour with no benefits. All voted aye.
Motion passed.
(#28 *)EMPLOYMENT -PARK DEPARTMENT
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to authorize
Staff to employ John Klevann Jr., 6925 County Road 26, Maple
Plain, as a temporary Parks maintenance helper a= an hourly rate
of $5.00 effective May 6, 1991. All voted aye. Motion passed.
(#29 *)PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR -CAR ALLOWANCE
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to establish a
mileage allowance for the Public Works Director at an amount of
$235.00 per month, commencing in May, 1991, in lieu of continuing
- 19 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
(#29*)PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR-CAR ALLOWANCE CONTINUED
to provide a 24-hour vehicle for h.Jj_s usage. The CIty Council
further authorizes a budget amendment to accommodate the mileage
allowance in lieu of the car. All voted aye. Motion passed.
(#30*)CUSTOMER SERVICE RESPONSE
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to accept the
information presented by Chieff Kilbo regarding customer service
responses. All voted aye. Motion passed.
(#31*)ADMINISTRATOR'S INFORMATION
T:t was MOVed,by Goetten, -seconded by Butler, to accept the
City Adminiistraito'r-s ir�fo�mation regarding.- Southwest. Drug Task
Force, Minnetonka Beach Sewer/Water, Hours of Operation/Rennel,
and Administrator's Goal Setting Status. All voted aye. Motion
passed.
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT: None.
(#32*)LICENSES
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler to approve the
following license(s):
One Day Set-up: Minnetonka Center of the Arts
2240 North Shore Drive
May 23, 1991-6:00 to 8:00 p.m.
Gallery Dedication :.?. Art Exhibit
Garbage & Refuse Collector: 3lackowiak & Son
1195 Sunnyfield Road North
Mound
East Tonka Sanitation
P. 0. Box 242
Long Lake
400dlake Sanitary Service, Inc.
4000 Hamel.Road
Hamel
Residential Kennel: Robert Rossing
130 Cygnet Place
Long Lake
All voted aye. Motion passed.
(#33*)BILLS
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve
payment of the All Funds Account. All voted aye. Motion passed.
- 20 -
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 13, 1991
EXECUTIVE SESSION
At 10:25 p.m. City Attorney Barrett requested that Council
adjourn to arz Executive Session fir the purpose of discussing
pending litigation.
ADJOURNMENT ti
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Callahan, to adjourn the
Regular Council Meeting at 10:35 p.m. All voted aye. Motion
passed.
Barbara A. Peterson, Mayor
-- 21 -
a