HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-11-1991 Council MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING
HELD MARCH 11, 1991
ROLL CALL:
The Council met on the above date with the following members
present: Mayor Barbara Peterson, Councilmembers J. Diann
Goetten, Edward Callahan, Gabriel Jabbour, and Mary Butler. The
following represented the City Staff: City Administrator Mark
Bernhardson, Building and Zoning Administrator Jeanne Mabusth,
Public Works Director John Gerhardson, City Clerk Dorothy Hallin,
City Attorney Thomas Barrett, City Engineer Glenn Cook, and City
Recorder Laurie Scheffler. Mayor Peterson called the meeting to
order at 7:00 p.m.
(#1)OATH OF OFFICE
Dorothy Hallin administered the Oath of Office to
Councilmember Butler.
Mayor Peterson welcomed Councilmember Eutler personally, and
on behalf of the Council.
( #2 *)CONSENT AGENDA
Goetten requested the removal of item #24 from the Consent
Agenda.
Mayor Paterson stated that she too wished to discuss item
#24, and requested that item #23 also be removed from the Consent
Agenda.
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve the
Consent: Agenda, with the exception of items #23 and #24, which
were removed and discussed in the sequence shown on the Agenda.
Motion, Ayes -5, Nays -0. Motion passed.
( #3 *)APPROVAL OF MINUTES
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve the
Minutes of the Regular Council Meeting held February 25, 1991.
Motion, Ayes -5, Nays -0. Motion passed.
PARK COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Park Commissioner, James Gilbert, was present for the
purpose of discussing another item on the agenda. Mayor Peterson
asked Gilbert if he wished to say anything on behalf of the Park
Commission.
Gilbert stated that people from the Community have begun
attending Park Commission meetings on a regular basis. He said,
"It is the consensus of the Park Commission that we could perhaps
attend two or three Council meetings a year to keep Council
apprised of our efforts. T'-ie Park Commission is currently trying
to coordinate efforts for a bike path wit1i Hennepin County and
the State. There has been quite a bit of support from the 'Orono
residents in this regard."
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PARK COMMISSION COMMENTS CONTINUED
Mayor Peterson thanked Gilbert for providing a brief update
of the Park Commission's activities. She informed Gilbert that
it is the intention of the City Council to schedule an April or
May meeting with the Park Commission.
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Planning Commission Representative, Sara Moos, was present,
but had no comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Curt Qaady stated that he had read an editorial in the paper
regarding the City of Orono merging with the City of Long Lake.
He said, "I hope the Council will consider this seriously,
although I believe that Orono has enough problems of its own
without inheriting those of the City of Long Lake."
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
( #4)ZONING FILE #1497- TOBERMAN
1960 SHORELINE DRIVE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
Jim Gilbert, Attorney, was
PROPERTY
present on Mr. Toberman's behalf.
Bernhardson provided Council with a brief history of the
activities and issues involved with this property. He said,
"Council at their: November 1990 meeting voted to conceptually
deny the Conditional Use Permit, based on their belief that there
was a lapse in the non - conforming use. Mr. Gilbert's position is
that his client did not voluntarily abandon the use and would
like a re- instatement of that use. It is that issue that is
before Council this evening. It is my understanding that the
City Attorney received an Affidavit of Gerald Toberman from Mr.
Gilbert just this afternoon."
Barrett confirmed that he had received a copy of Mr.
Toberman's Affidavit, which states the facts surrounding his
efforts to continue the use of the property as granted in the
Conditional Use Permit.
Mayor Peterson stated that, based on the information
received from the Cite Attorney, it seems that the City is in a
position where it is compelled to grant the use to continue.
Barrett stated that his legal opinion is based on two
elements. He said, "If Council finds facts which support a
position that the Conditional Use Permit was not voluntarily
abandoned, then you would be well advised to allow the Permit to
be reinstated for a specified period of time. If, on the other
hand, Council determines that for reasons within Mr. Toberman's
control he decided not to voluntarily proceed with the business,
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then Council would be a position to deny the continued use of
this property."
Mayor Peterson suggested that it may be appropriate to allow
the use to continue for an additional six months. She said, "My
reasoning behind the six months is that it would allow us to see
whether something will happen during the boating season. If the
property is going to be used, I should think something would
occur within the next six months."
Goetten stated that she did not approve of granting the
Conditional Use Permit for a one year period of time.
Jabbour expressed concerns about Mr. Toberman being in a
position where he is forced to operate a skeleton business, just
for the sake of meeting the conditions of the Conditional Use
Permit. He said, "I do not think the City's interest would be
well served by a business that is there one day, gone the next.
Mr. Toberman is obviously trying to do something with the
property. I think the City should work with him to make sure
that the best interest of the City is served. I would like to
know what circumstances approved in the 1987 Conditional Use
Permit changed so that Council denied renewal of the Permit in
1990. Mr. Toberman made improvements to the property, as he was
required to do under the conditions of the 1987 Conditional Use
Permit."
Barrett replied, "The technical question is whether the City
is required to grant yet another renewal of the Conditional Use
Permit, once the one year time period had expired. Mr. Gilbert
responded to Council's position in the Fall, of 1990, with some
case law unfamiliar to me, because it was derived from another
state. That case law examines the issue of voluntary versus
involuntary abandonment of the use. In view of the investment
made by Mr. Toberman, I felt that to be persuasive case law. I
would recommend that should Council agree to grant an additional
period of time, that it be established with the applicant's
understanding."
Butler asked if the request before Council this evening
includes the servicing of boats, as well as the other uses
granted in the 1387 Conditional Use Permit.
Barrett replied, "The issue before Council is whether the
1987 Conditional Use Permit should be a'-lowed to remain in
place."
Butler said, "Historically, the terms of a Conditional Use
Permit state that there is a one -year time period, and if the use
_Ls not exercised within that period, it is lost. It seems to me
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that a building, heavily advertised as being for sale, is not the
basis for a new business by the current owner. After reviewing
the material on this matter, it seemed to mss that if the
Conditional Use Permit had expired, the issue of renewal was a
moot question."
Barrett stated that his first opinion concurred with the
comments raised by Butler, but that the case law introduced by
Gilbert put new light on this issue. He said, "In my opinion,
the State Courts would consider that case law. The points raised
by Councilmember Butler may in fact s:lpport a position that
abandonment was voluntary. The facts that Mr. Gilbert discussed
with me indicate it was involuntary because of the low level of
the lake."
Butler stated that she would be receptive to such rationale
if in fact the business had ever started. She said, "You cannot
attract business with an empty building."
Goetten stated that the City has tried to work with Mr.
Toberman on this matter. Sine said, "It seems that all of our
efforts were for nothing because of the pending legal issue. If
we are in fact in a position where we have no choice but to
approve the renewal, then I think Council should consider
attaching specific conditions to our approval. If the business
fails to meet those conditions within a certain period of time,
then I think we would have sufficient grounds for disallowing any
additional requests to renew the Conditional Use Permit."
Callahan stated that the reason for the 1987 Conditional Use
Permit was because Mr. Toberman intended to rent the building to
:someone else. He said, "Mr. Toberman did not intend to establish
a business on that premises himself. The person that was going
to rent the building had a business connection with Mr. Toberman.
There has not been any consideration on the part of Mr. Toberman
-co sell boats from that location. T'ie person who wanted to rent
the property for that reason, abandoned the idea, and
consequently let go of the property. Mr. Toberman made the
improvements to the property based on the representations of the
individual wishing to rent it. At first Mr. Gilbert informed us
that the property had not been abandoned, because meetings were
periodically held there. In my opinion, the use was voluntarily
abandoned. The impetus for renewing the Conditional Use Permit
was that Mr. Toberman had a buyer, Morrie Wagner, for the
property across the street and wished to tie 1960 Shoreline Drive
in with that business. I do not believe that 1960 Shoreline
Drive will support commercial use, and should not be joined with
-the marina across the street. In my opinion, the permit should
be denied."
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Bernhardson noted that the aspect of servicing beats was
introduced with the application submitted last March. He stated
that the applicant is now requesting only the beat and nautical
sales business, as requested in the 1987 Conditional Use Permit.
Jabbour recollected that there had been a previous request
to sell fishing boats from this property and that it had been
denied on the Plannina Commission level.
Mabusth explained, "Tine request involved an intense,
multiple use of the property, including not only fishing boat
sales, but also fishing paraphanalia and bait, as well as food.
It was the intensification of the use to which the Planning
Commission objected. I believe the application was withdrawn
before Council had an opportunity to review it."
Mayor Peterson asked Gilbert if he wished to say anything
regarding this issue.
Gilbert sated that Mr. Toberman did have this property
potentially sold to Morrie Wagner and had applied for an expanded
use of the property in January, 1990. He said, "The expanded use
included boat servicing. We are willing to withdraw that request
tonight. We received a double negative on this property in that
we were first denied the expanded use, and, while in the process
of reviewing the application for expanded use, the City
determined that there may have been a lapse of use. The City was
initially trying to deny any commercial use of this property.
Councilmember Callahan's statements regarding the history of this
property were, for the most part, correct. In 1987, my client
was granted a Conditional Use Permit from the City, which
included a condition to make a number of improvements. Mr.
Toberman completed all of the improvements set forth in the
Resolution granting the Conditional Use Permit, and paid
approximately $70,000 to do so. Mr. Toberman was hopeful that
the former owners of Sailors World were going to operate the
place. As you recall, 1987 was the first year of the drought 'for
Lake Minnetonka. The beat industry was devastated, and the
people from Sailors World decided not to go ahead with their
plans for the property. In 1988 and 1989, the economic
conditions surrounding Lake Minnetonka did not improve, but in
fact worsened. My client owned five other marinas, on Lake
Minnetonka, three of which have gone back to foreclosure. This
marina is in bankruptcy, and the other is barely holding its own.
There were other boat sales and nautical shops within the City of
Orono that also failed during the same period of time. Tne boat
sales and nautical shop associated with the Maxwell Bay Marina
had no sales during 1988 or 1989, and went through bankruptcy
last year. My client owned the Tonka Bay Marina, but had another
tenant, Erickson Marine, running the business. Erickson Marine
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is located in Hastings and has been a large boat operation for
decades. They had initially wanted to do business on Lake
Minnetonka, but in 1988, they too decided that the boat industry
in this area was depressed, and moved off of the Lake. There is
economic stress here, and conditions beyond my client's control,
that prevented him from securing a tenant for this property.
After Council's conceptual denial of this application, I
requested time to do more legal research. I found cases around
the Country, including the States of Illinois, Wisconsin,
Kentucky; Louisiana, and Indiana, where the law states that when
there is an involuntary cessation of a conditional use, that it
is not grounds for denial of the continued use. It is our
position that the economic climate made it impossible for my
client to use that property pursuant to the Conditional Use
Permit. There was no demand for such a business. Today, as a
means of compromise, we would be willing to revert to the 1987
permit, and abide by the terms and conditions as stated therein.
If we cannot meet those conditions within the next year, we would
not seek renewal once the permit lapses. The lake has improved,
from both a level standpoint and Eurasian Milfoil control. With
Bankruptcy Court approval, the marina on Shoreline Drive has been
sold to Morrie Wagner. We have no buyer for the 1960 Shoreline
property, and if it is not resold, my client is planning on
starting a boat sales and nautical shop himself." Mr., Gilbert
distributed a copy of Mr. Toberman's Affidavit to each
Councilmember.
Callahan stated that Mr. Gilbert's arguments indicate that
though there was no actual business conducted on the premises,
Mr. Toberman had intentions to do so. Callahan questioned
whether the City would have to continuously approve renewal
requests each year based on Affidavits from M.C. Toberman stating
that he intended to open a business.
Gilbert stated that his client is willing to compromise with
the City by asking that the Conditional Use Permit be extended
only one more year. He said, "If Mr. Toberman cannot get actual
use within the neat 12 months, we will waive whatever legal
rights he has."
Callahan asked if the cases cited as examples by Mr. Gilbert
involved businesses that were already functioning and were then
stopped for economic reasons.
Gilbert replied, "Yes, a lot of them are that way."
Callahan said, "The examples do not involve properties where
the use was never started."
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Gilbert replied, "I did not focus on the issue as I did not
see it as being relevant since we did have a Conditional Use
Permit. M.:. Toberman invested $170,000 in this property to run
that business, pursuant to the Conditional Use Permit granted by
the City."
Goetten asked Barrett what
i-1 a position where it would
renewal if nothing more occurs
efforts to start a business.
the City could do to put itself
not have to grant yet another
on the property than good faith
Barrett replied, "I would first rely on the statement made
by Mr. Gilbert, pertaining to waiving the legal right to renew
the use after a one year period. You may wish to include such
language in your approval."
Gilbert said, "The legal rights would be waived unless a use
was started within the next 12 months."
Barrett stated that he was not sure what constituted
starting a use.
Goetten agreed that attempts to start the use have occurred
in the past and gone nowhere.
Butler said, "Attempts to start a new business did not go
beyond physical improvements to the property. The property was
never open for business. The building has remained empty."
Jabbour stated that based on the information provided by
3arrett, there seems to be a legal position for Mr. Toberman. He
said, "I do not believe it is wise to put the City in a position
where it may be required to spend money litigating this matter.
I think we should define what in our mind constitutes the
starting of a business. I do not believe that preparing the
building and attempting to secure a tenant constitutes starting a
business."
Goetten expressed concern for the safety aspect of using the
property. She stated that it is likely, no matter how the
property is used, that there will be people crossing County Road
15.
Jabbour added, "There is to be absolutely no crosswalk."
Barrett suggested that if it is Council's intention to grant
the renewal, that they direct Staff to provide some criteria that
will constitute the starting of a business. He said, "I believe
the criteria should involve the purchase and availability of a
certain level of stock, regular business hours, regular sales
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personnel."
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Jabbour, to
conceptually reconsider the direction of denying the application
to renew the 1,387 Conditional Use Permit /Variance. Staff is
directed to prepare an appropriate resolution incorporating the
conditions of. the 1987 C.U.P., as well as the concerns and
objectives raised by Council with respect to granting approval of
the Conditional Use Permit for 1960 Shoreline Drive for one year.
Jabbour suggested that the conditions should be discussed with
the applicant so there is no question of what the City expects.
Callahan stated that the resolution should include language which
prohibits connecting the use of 1960 Shoreline Drive with the
marina across the street. Motion, Ayes -3, Mayor Peterson and
Callahan, Nay. Motion passed.
( #5 & #6)ZONING FILE #1493 & #1570 —CHUCK DOWNEY
2665 CASCO POINT ROAD
VARIANCE /CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
RESOLUTION #2934
Mr. Downey was present.
Bernhardson reviewed the information pertaining to M:-.
Downey's applications, as provided in Jeanne Mabusth's memo dated
,`.March 6, 1991. He noted that the Planning Commission had
recommended approval of both applications.
Mabusth used sketches to show Council what had been, and is
now, proposed for the Downey property. She stated that the
Planning Commission had rejected Mr. Downey's proposal for tiered
retaining walls because it was too intense and did not address
the erosion problems. She said, "Glenn Cook and I net with Mr.
Downey on -site in September. We assisted him with preparing an
amended proposal. As a result of the amended proposal, hardcover
will be reduced approximately one percent within the 0 -75'
setback area. In the 75 -250' setback area, there is also
reduction in hardcover. The survey provided for this property in
1982, did not include landscape areas with underlying plastic.
When the City granted approval of a setback Variance for the
garage, it also asked that the gravel area remain for backing
out. The gravel and landscape areas were not included with the
final hardcover calculations. The existing hardcover today is
59 %. Mr. Downey is proposing to replace a portion of the
lakeshore stairs, at a three foot maximum width, which will also
result in a reduction of the hardcover."
Mayor Peterson asked Mabusth if the deck on the lakeside of
the boathouse existed in 1982.
Mabusth replied, "Yes."
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Callahan asked Mabusth to show what areas were g---ass in
1982.
Mabusth showed the areas that are grass.
Butler asked if the grass on the hill is mowed.
Mabusth replied, "Yes, the grass is mowed, though it is not
easy. Mr. Downey first proposed the three tier plan because it
would have made yard maintenance easier. However, the plan did
not resolve the erosion problem."
Goetten asked Cook if the revised retaining walls meet
engineering standards.
Cook replied, "Yes. We always felt that the lower wall is
necessary to save the bank and the tree. We did have concerns
regarding the upper wall and discussed them with Mr. Downey. We
are concerned about the ability of the upper wall to contain the
water running off the well if the drainage pattern is changed.
The property owner has agreed to watch the situation and take
care of any problem that may arise."
Goetten asked if Mr. Downey's neighbor is aware of the plans
for this property.
Mabusth stated that the neighbor has joined with Mr. Downey
in an attempt to solve the erosion problem.
Downey confirmed Mabusth's statement and added that he will
assist with a project to change the direction of his neighbor's
gutters so that drainage occurs toward the street rather than the
lake. Downey said, "I did not have any erosion problem until the
City required the Holzers, previous owners of the neighboring
property, to remove their retaining walls. There are plans on
record with the City showing a swale that was to be constructed, ,
but never was." Mr. Downey distributed pictures of his and the
neighbor's property.
Jabbour asked the City Engineer if vegetation is ever
considered as a method of controlling erosion.
Cook replied, "In :his case, only a retaining wall will
provide erosion control along the bottom of the yard. The upper
retaining wall could perhaps be substituted with ground cover."
Butler asked if the new upper retaining wall would align
with the existing stone wall on Mr. Downey's property.
Mr. Downey replied, "We intend to start the new section of
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wall where the existing section stops. The walls will come
together."
Bernhardson noted that the after - the -fact lakeshore setback
Variance, hardcover Variance, and Conditional Use Permit have
been combined and addressed in one resolution.
Mayor Peterson asked if the resolution included language
pertaining to the after - the -fact penalty fees.
Mabusth replied, "Yes, the resolution does include penalty
fees, as recommended by the Planning Commission. The Planning
Commission did not feel that the property owner addressed the
need for Variances in a timely manner.
Jabbour asked if Mr. Downey was the owner of the property in
1982 when the garage was constructed.
Mabusth replied, "Yes, he was."
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Jabbour, to adopt
Resolution #2934, as presented. Motion, Ayres -5; Nays -0. Motion
passed.
(#7)ZONING.FILE #1609 -ALICE BROCK
2780 SHADYWOOD ROAD
VARIANCE
RESOLUTION #2935
Alice Brock was present.
Bernhardson reviewed the issues involved with this
application as set forth in Jeanne Mabusth's February 13, 1991
memo. He stated that the Planning Commission recommended
approval of the after - the -fact deck, but recommended that a
stairway be used to exit the second floor of the house rather
than a catwalk.
Goetten stated that in this case, it would not be
appropriate to charge a penalty fee for the after -the -fact nature
of the application. She said, "From what I have read, Ms. Brock
has tried to make a good faith effort to resolve the situation."
Goetten indicated that she would not approve a catwalk,
though she did not object to Ms. Brock's request to have an
additional exit from the house in the event of fire.
Jabbour said, "The City is in the process of reviewing the
:issue of eaves and ducks as hardcover. We are trying to
determine the degree structure can protrude outside the parameter
of the house at a certain elevations;;, without being considered ,.
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hardcover."
Brock stated that she has no intention of extending the
width of the catwalk beyond the eaves. She said, "The catwalk
will be completely under the eaves. No water would be diverted
in any way more than it is now."
Goetten said, "The catwalk may or may not be considered
hardcover, but certainly would be structure."
Ms. Brock stated that she did not understand the issue of
structure, but added that she had installed gutter to the side of
the house where she is proposing to locate the catwalk. She
noted that her neighbors preferred to see a catwalk rather than
stairs.
Mayor Peterson said, "If I understand this correctly, Alice
is asking for a second exit from the second story of her house."
Mabusth said, "That is correct. The problem is that the
sliding glass door, also located on the second story of the home,
freezes during the winter. The only egress from the second floor
bedroom is via the interior stairs on the first level. The house
was constructed prior to the Building Code requiring a minimum
size for bedroom windows for the purpose of providing egress."
Mayor Peterson stated that Ms. Brock has a normal split
entry home. She asked if the City would-be setting a precedent
for everyone in Orono owning split entry and two story homes to
have stairs coming from their second level.
Ms. Brock said, "My windows do not meet the required size.
Even i:_ I could fit through the window, it would be an eight -foot
drop to the ground. It may be possible for me to drop eight
feet, but I would not ask my mom or anybody else her age to do
that. I don't mean to go on about the windows, but the Planning
Commission made that suggestion, and I have to make a point."
Mabusth said, "It is doubtful that the City would consider
four foot eaves at an elevation of 16 feet, as hardcover. Staff
has not been including eaves as hardcover. There was a time when
eaves at more than a 1h' width were considered hardcover."
Callahan asked Ms. Brock whether it would be possible to
force open the sliding glass doors in the case of a fire.
Brock stated that due to the size and weight of the doors,
she could not force them open.
Goetten stated that there should be a safe exit from the
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second level without the need to force open a door.
Butler questioned whether the doors could be freezing as a
result of the furnace not functioning properly.
Brock advised that she had the furnace checked by a
reputable h=ating engineering firm and they indicated that the
furnace is operating to its fullest efficiency.
Butler asked whether a catwalk structure would provide a
safe method of exiting the property.
Brock explained that the catwalk would be constructed with
the same degree of supports and footings as a full scale deck.
Jabbour asked what the total square footage of stairs would
be compared to the square footage proposed for the catwalk.
Mabusth replied, "The stairs would be approximately 50 s.,f.
and the catwalk would be 195 s.f."
Jabbour stated that he agreed with Goetten regarding the
after -th---fact penalty. He said, "I had an opportunity to check
on Ms. B,:ock's builder and found that he is in fact out of
business."
It was moved by Mayor Peterson, seconded by Goetten, to
adopt Resolution #2935, as amended, approving the after -the -fact
deck and a stairway, not to exceed 50 s.f., rather than •a
catwalk. Further, the penalty fees normally charged for
after - the -fact applications shall be waived in this case.
Motion, Ayes -5; Nays -0. Motion passed.
( #8)JOINT USE DOCK LICENSES
Bernhardson presented Council with eight joint use dock
licenses for their consideration and approval. He said, "I would
like to request that the license for Sandy Beach be removed from
the list at this time. The City is considering the initiation of
hazardous building proceedings for some of the structures on this
property. That may have an impact on the number of slips that
can be allocated to that property. We will bring that
application back for your consideration at the March 25th Council
meeting."
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to-adopt
Resolutions #2936, #2937, #2938, #2939, #2940, #2941, and #2942,
approv:Lng Joint Use Dock Licenses for Navarre Cove,
Rhode /Enlow /Lindahl, Victoria Estates, Walters Port, Minnetonka
Power Squadron, Foxhill Homeowners, and Forest Arms,
respectively. The application for Sandy Beach is tabled until
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March 25, 1991. Jabbour asked whether the owner of Sandy Beach
has been notified of the City's intentions. Bernhardson stated
that notification had not yet been given, but would occur
shortly. Motion, Ayes -5; Nays -0. Motion passed.
ENGINEER'S REPORT:
( #9 *)CHANGE ORDER #2- PUMPHOUSE #3
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve a
time extension of the completion date for the Pumphouse #3
Project from December 15, 1990 to May 15, 1991, for substantial
completion and site grading and landscaping to be extend-ad to
June 15, 1991. Motion, Ayes -5, Nays -0. Motion passed.
( #10 *)PAY REQUEST #5- PUMPHOUSE #3)
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve Pay
Request #5 for Pumphouse #3, in the amount of $5,225.00, payable
to Richmar Construction. Motion, Ayes -5, Nays -0. Motion passed.
MAYOR /COUNCIL REPORT:
OTHER
Mayor Peterson stated that she, and hopefully the Council
agreed, to reinstate the article in the newspaper with a revised
title.
Council agreed that printing of articles, entitled "Coming
from the Orono Council Chambers ", rather than "Mayor's Article ",
should resume.
Rosemary Schauer stated that submission of the articles to
the "Laker" should be handled in the same method follow-ad for
press releases.
With regard to the publishing of a City Newsletter, Mayor
Peterson referred Council to a sample prepared by Sherokee Ilse.
She asked if Council would give this idea some consideration over
the next two weeks azd be prepared to offer comments and
suggestions at the March 25th Council meeting.
Goetten asked whether consideration is still being given to
publishing and distributing a newsletter prior to the upcoming
Town Meeting.
Jabbour said, "It was my understanding that we were first
going to find a person interested in doing a newsletter, and
then determine how much it will cost the City to do this. I
would like to know how Sherokee's involvement came to be."
Mayor Peterson replied, " Sherokee's involvement is not
official. She volunteered to provide us with a format to get an
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idea of how a newsletter might appear, and the kind of items we
may wish to include."
Sherokee said, "I volunteered to put something on paper as a
starting point to give you a visual concept of a newsletter. I
would be happy to assist the City with this project, if Council
would like me to do so."
Council thanked Sherokee for her efforts and interest.
Mayor Peterson stated that it will be necessary to determine
what the approximate costs of publishing and printing a
newsletter would be. We need to agree on how often th
publication should be distributed.
Butler suggested sending the newsletter out with the sewer
and water bills. Siie said, "The City has explored the aspects of
sending out a newsletter in the past and fou:zd it to be an
expensive venture. Everyone that started the process had the
best of intentions and good faith, but found that it was too
costly to produce and distribute one piece of paper, as opposed
to using the press. I think the trade -off has been the Mayor's
Report published in as many of the local newspapers as possible
n order ,o get the most exposure for the least amount of
taxpayer's dollars."
Goetten agreed w_th Butler. Sze said, "Though I have not
been in favor of the cost for producing a newsletter, I feel that
communication between the City and residents over the next few
years is vitally important. It seems that not everyone gets the
paper, and those that do not a-e not informed. We thought we-
would try a newsletter to see if it helps. If we have someone
willing to volunteer their efforts in preparing a newsletter,
that should make the project more feasible."
Bernhardson stated that he would provide Council with a map
depicting the areas covered by the "Laker ", as well as cost
estimates for mailing a newsletter. He .said, "The sewer bills
awe not all sent out at the same time and the septic bills only
go out once a year."
Mayor Peterson stated that she would like to have some
method of informing the residents of the need for building
permits, which may, in turn, reduce the number of after - the -fact
applications.
Jabbour stated that he had spoken to a gentleman who did not
understand how the City could inform him, through the mail, that
he needed a dog license, but could not tell him that the City was
ready to spend money on a new facility. He said, "Because of the
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particular issues facing us, we need to keep the residents
informed all along the way. I do not think it is in our best
interest to drop all of the information pertaining to an issue on
the residents at the last minute. It may cost the City
approximately $2,000.00 to print and mail a newsletter. I have
concluded that theta are many people who do not read the
newspaper."
Butler and Mayor Peterson agreed that some people never read
the newspaper, and would probably not read a newsletter.
Curt Quady stated that he liked the idea of a newsletter,
even if it cost the City some money to do. He said, "The
Minneapolis newspapers do not ever have information about Orono.
Somehow, the City has to have mo;=e communication with the
:residents."
Callahan stated that he, personally, is unlikely to read a
newsletter. He said, "I am almost certain that even if we
distribute a newsletter to the residents, there will still be
people who will claim to be uninformed. I do not oppose the
intent of sending out a newsletter, but question whether it will
have the impact for which we are hoping."
( #11) TOTIN MEETING
Goetten suggested that something be done to inform the
residents of the purpose of the Town Meeting. She said, "So far,
I have received a number a :galls from people who think this
meeting is for the purpose of discussing Highway 12."
Mayor Peterson stated that she was concerned about the
impression being formed by the residents of what a town meeting
should be. Si-ie asked Butler if she could provide a definition of
a town meeting.
Butler replied, "Yoe: could compare a town meeting to the
public comment section on the Council agenda. I.f a topic is
already being discussed in some other forum, it will not be
discussed at the town meeting. If people want to know about
Highway 12, there are specific me etings held for that purpose.
Issues such as hardcover, the length of time to process a zoning
application, how to better our communication with the residents,
and lakeshore protection policies, should be discussed at a town
meeting. If .a town meeting does nothing more that make five
people aware of the dangers of lawn chemicals on lakeshore yards
to the point where they cancel that service, it would have served
its purpose."
Jabbour added, "Opinions about recycling and clean -up days
would be appropriate to discuss."
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Goetten asked how the Council could diplomatically handle
those people at the meeting that wish to discuss issues such as
Highway 12.
Butler s=uggested pJ_eparing a :specific agenda for the Town
Meeting, and publish it.prior to the meeting. She suggested that
at the same time, language should be published specifically
stating what topics will not be discussed.
Sherokee Ilse suggested that the article in the paper
provide information telling people what they can do to get a
specific topic included on the agenda.
Jabbour stated that the City must do something :o inform
first time Orono residents of what they can and cannot do with
their property.
Sara Moos suggested that the City attempt to invite area
realtors to the meeting when the agenda includes topics such as
hardcover, that would be beneficial for them to know when selling
property in Orono.
Council agreed with Moos.
Mayor Peterson asked Council if the TDwn Meeting should be
scheduled later than April 6th.
With regard to St -aff members that should be present at these
meetings, Butler suggested that all Staff members exposed to the
public should attend.
Bernhardson stated that he would bring this issue back for
Council's consideration at their March 25, 1991 meeting.
(#12)JOINT COUNCIL & PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Butler stated that she did not object to the idea of such
meetings, but questioned the legality of holding such meetings in
a private club. She said, "The Lafayette Club is a private
facility, not public. I think the City could be accused of
holding a closed meeting if it is held in this location."
Goetten asked the City Attorney for his opinion of what
constitutes open and closed meetings.
Barrett replied, "It seems to me that key is that the public
be allowed access to whatever.facility is chosen. I cannot state
at this point whether the facility has to have a designation as
being a public place, rather than private. I would have to
research that aspect. I did not bring this matter to your
attention, because it was my assumption that the City would rent
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the Lafayette Club for this purpose, thus allowing public
access."
Jabbour stated that he would not want to hold the meetings
at a place where the public feels intimidated to attend, even if
it is legal to do so.
It was agreed that Council would hold a breakfast meeting
with the Planning Commission at 9:00 a.m. on Saturday, April 20,
1991, at a place to be determined later. It was also agreed that
Council would set a time arzd date for a breakfast meeting with
the Perk Commission at a later time,
Butler asked the City Attorney for his opinion regarding the
need to have someone present to take minutes at such meetings.
Barrett stated that he would research that issue, in
addition to the private /public building, and provide Council with
information at their March 25, 1991 meeting.
( #13)PLANNING COMMISSION APPLICANTS
Bernhardson presented Council with lette::s of interest
received in response to the advertisement placed in the paper.
He asked Council to consider whether they would like to send the
letter, also presented in draft form this evening, to the
applicants.
Mayor Peterson asked S: :aff is they have received any
notification from the tw.:-) Planning Commission members whose terms
are expiring.
Mabusth replied, "They have submitted written letters."
Mayo;: Petersen asked Council if they wished to propose any
revisions to the draft letter.
Goetten replied, "I want to make sure that everyone applying
understands the responsibility that -_s required with this
position. Tile Planning Commission does not just hold meetings
once a month, there may be additional meetings. I believe I can
speak for the Council when I :;ay that we would like to have the
Planning Commission more involved with the City issues."
:;abbour stated that his interest in holding a joint meeting
with the_ Planning Commission is to discuss with them what their
role should ba. He said, "I want to be sure that the Planning
Commission members understand their role acid a-e willing to
commit their time and energy to fulfilling that role. The ad in
the paper did state that the- Planning Commission meets once a
month and that may give the applicants the wrong impression."
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Mayor Peterson asked Bernhardson to include language in the
letter that will provide more clarification as to what will be
expected.
Goetten suggested that Council may wish to consider a
one -year probation period for newly appointed Planning Commission
members.
Jabbour and Butler stated that Planning and Park Commission
members have the option of resigning at any time.
Goetten said, "I could see where people may not resign, but
would just not do the work necessary for them to do."
Butler asked if there is still a provision in place which
states that anyone missing three meetings will be asked to
discuss their commitment to the position.
Bernhardson stated that such a provision is still in effect.
Callahan stated that it appears the Council may w.Lsh to
change the role of th-a Planning Commission. He said, "If that is
the case, it would be wise to decide what that role is before an
appointment is made."
Council agreed with Callahan.
Jabbour indicated that he has no real desire to change the
role or the Planning Commission, but rather to be sure that the
members are fulfilling the responsibility they now have. In the
past years, the Planning Commission has just been a step in the
process. I think the Planning Commission members are very.
capable and devoted. The Chairman has been there ten years. In
my opinion, they are not being used to their fullest potential.
Some of the members are excited and anxious to take on additional
work. I want to be sure that those who wish to do the extra work
are not being hampered by those that have no such interest."
Mayor Peterson asked that Council contact Mark prior to the
March 25, 1991 Council m=eting to relay their thoughts and ideas
regarding the role of the, Planning Commission.
Goetten suggested that the Planning Commission be asked how
they perceive their role.
Mayor Peterson asked Bernhardson to have that question
included on the- Planning Commission's March 18, 1991, meeting
agenda.
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Callahan stated that the role of the Planning Commission is
specifically defined in the City Code. He said, "If we need to
know what that role is, we can read the definition. If we wish
to change that role, we can do so. As I recall, the Planning
Commission's role is not defined the way several of us are
suggesting it ought to be."
Mayor Peterson stated that the Code refers to the Planning
Commission as being an advisory board.
Callahan stated that is true to a certain extent, but that
planning is not included in their responsibilities.
Jabbour said, "I do not think, over the past four years,
that the Planning Commission was given the role defined in the
Code. I would welcome the opportunity to sit dawn with the
entir; Planning Commission and brain storm.
Council agreed to provide the City Administrator with their
ideas pertaining to the role of th3 Planning Commission, and that
Staff should proceed as directed by Mayor Peterson. No further
action was taken.
( #14 *)CITY COMMUNICATION -CABLE TV REPRESENTATIVE'S REPORT
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, accept the
information presented by Bernhardson, and to provide direction at
a later time regarding the manner in which reports from the
Representative on the Lake Minnetonka Cable Communications
Commission will be reviewed. Motion, Ayes. -5, Nays -0. Motion
passed.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
( #15)HIGHWAY 12 PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION
Bernhardson presented Council with information pertaining to
th3 Planning Commission's recommendation regarding the Highway 12
Corridor location. The information included several options that
Council may wish to consider once they receive the Planning
Commission's recommendation.
Jabbour stated that he preferred to table this matter.
Council agreed with Jabbour, and the item was tabled.
( #16)WOODHILL COUNTRY CLUB
Mark Albrecht, Woodhill Country Club Manager, and M;:Lrk
Gronberg, Surveyor, were present.
Bernhardson provided Council with information in response to
their questions and concerns pertaining to a request from
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Woodhill Country Club to connect to municipal sewer. Ha briefly
reviewed each of the issues noted in his February 25, 1991 memo.
Jabbour asked if there would be any advantage to the City of
Orono if it took over the sewer line at some point in the future.
Bernhardson replied, "We are not certain that there is an
advantage for the City to take over the line. The line will be
constructed to City standards, and it may be appropriate to take
it over in the future. We view it in the same light as a private
road."
Butler asked how the City can be sure that construction of
this line will not prompt the Woodhill Country Club to undertake
a housing development on or around their property.
Bernhardson replied, "The;:e are no guarantees that such a
request would not be brought forward. However, part of the
agreement, if this is approved, will include language restricting
the Club from allowing anyone else to connect to the line. In
the event such a request is received by the City, a Comprehensive
Plan amendment would be required to allow sewer. The Clubhouse
is located within the M.U.S.A. line, but any other development
would require an amendment to the M.U.S.A. line."
Mar:: Albrecht added, "Thee are no plans for any future
development. The line is being developed exclusively on Club
property. Approximately five years ago, Woodhill purchased some
property bordering the Club so that development could not occur.
There is no desire to develop around the golf course."
Mayor Peterson asked how far it is from the Club's property
line to the lift station.
Albrecht replied, "It is approximately 50 feet across
privately owned property to the lift station."
Jabbour asked Albrecht if the Club has obtained the
permission frram the property owner to install the line across
his /her property.
Albrecht replied, "I have talked with the property owner and
she indicated that she is willing to discuss the proposal."
Goetten said, "It may be true that we trade -off residential
connection chargs with the City. of Wayzata. However, the
Country Club is a ;commercial operation, which is entirely
different."
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Bernhardson responded, "The Wayzata Country Club is located
for the most part in Orono, and is ,a commercial venture. I doubt
that there were any connection charges. The number of. units
involved with Woodhill is ten. The number of residential
properties that .Orono has hooked up on North Ferndale through
Wayzata is close to 50. If you look at this from a unit
standpoint, this is one of the opportunities Orono will have to
fire -pay" a Wayzata property for units not charged for Orono
properties."
Butler asked if in fact the pra
gesture of waiving connection charges
cities.
Bernhardson s::ated t: .iat the
connection charges for two houses on
1980.
ctice of reciprocating the
is still practiced by both
City of Wayzata waived
West Ferndale Road back in
Butler said, "That was eleven years ago. Are we being
fiscally responsible by continuing to waive connection charges ?"
Bernhardson replied, "We are requiring the Club to be
financially responsible for an additional pump upgrade for the
lift station. In that sense, we are being.fiscally responsible.
If we did charge a connection fee, it could either go into the
sewer operating fund for future connections, or it could be
refunded to those people that paid for the lift station."
Butler said,
around the north
will be charged a
that had to pay
Woodhill Country
charge, I would bi
"My paint is that if sewer is ever installed
side of Stubbs Bay, every one of those homes
connection fee. Ir I were one of the residents
a connection fee, and I found out that the
Club was not required to prey a :connection
a furious."
Bernhardson replied, "The difference is that Woodhill
Country Club is in another reciprocating City, and they are
connecting their own line at a cost of $250,000. Additionally,
they may incur at least $25.000 to upgrade the pump."
Jabbour cited an example of a Tonkawa Road resident that was
charged an additional connection fee when he connected a
guesthouse on his property.
Bernhardson stated that the resident may have only been
charged for one unit when sewer was installed, and was then
charged for the other unit when he hooked up the guesthouse. He
said, "The City does charge a separate unit fee for guesthouses.
I will review that situation."
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Mark Gronberg commented, "If Woodhill Country Club had been
included in the sewer project that went through that area, the
$250,000 basing paid by the Club would have been included in the
unit costs to the residents."
Mayor Peterson asked Albrecht what Woodhill's time schedule
is for installing the line, if approved.
Albrecht replied, "As soon as the frost is out of the ground
we would consider starting the project.
Butler and Goetten agreed that connecting the Club to sewer
is a good idea. Both were concern-ad about the project being
handled in a financial manner that is fair to the residents of
Orono.
•iabbour asked, "Has S-aff concluded then that the cost to
the residents for the 1931 sewer project, if Woodhill had been
included, would have been the same, or more, than the connection
fees we are waiving ?"
Bernhardson replied, "That i.s ma opinion. Additionally,
there is the aspect of maintaining the line, which the City is
not undertaking at this point. T:ie Club will pay a maintenance,
or capital depreciation, fee, which will be used to build up a
reserve to replace portions of the line or lift stations in the
future."
Curt Quady asked if the Club would be charged for ten units
at $51.15 /quarter to use the system.
Bernhardson replied, "In.-Ji.tially, yes. Woodhill will be
asked to put a meter on their well."
Quady stated that from what he understands, the meter would
not be installed for a year. He said, "It seems that ten units
is not sufficient to address the usage a facility such a Woodhill
must have."
Bernhardson replied,
avera:je flowage numbers
appropriate."
Quady said, "In other
wat3r being pumped into
generated by a single famil
"Glenn Cook reviewed the peak and
and determined that ten units is
words there is only ten times as much
the system from Woodhill as that
.y.
Bernhardson replied, "Yes, on an annual basis."
Cook said, "We are viewing this on an average annual basis."
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Bernhardson reiterated that the $51.00 /quarter would apply
for the first year, and would then be adjusted in accordance with
the metered usage recorded.
Jabbour said, "In .-iiy opinion, the City is coming away from
this with minimal liability, while putting on reserve for future
equipment failure or upgrades, and the Club is becoming
ecologically more responsible."
Butler noted that she wants to know that Woodhill Country
Club is in fact within the M.U.S.A, line.
Callahan stated that he agreed with Councilmember Jabbour.
It was moved by Callahan, seconded by Butler, to direct
Staff to undertake the drafting of an agreement with the Woodhill
Country Club .o take in -o account the construction of a sewer
line in accordance with City specifications with the City only
charging a maintenance charge, subject to potential upgrade of
the lift s::ation, of which the Club's responsibility would be
defined. Additionally, the agreement would specify that the City
has the right to take over the line at a time in the future that
a Council majority would so decide. Until then, it is to be
privately maintained and the Club cannot allow any other property
to connect to the line without Council approval. Jabbour
suggested that Staff be directed to monitor the flowage to assure
that Woodhill is charged appropriately for their usage. Motion,
Ayes -5, Nays -0. Motion passed.
( #17)FACILITIES
Bernhardson stated that at least three Planning Commission
members will be unable to attend the Work Session scheduled for
March 27th.
Mayor Peterson asked that the Planning Commission include
the selection or a date for the Highw, -Ay 12 Workshop as part of
their March 13 meeting agenda.
Mabusth stated that this item would be included on the
Planning Commission's meeting agenda.
3ernhardson asked Council to consider whether the draft
letter shou-.d be mailed to the Facility Committee members
inviting them to the Work Session. He also asked Council for
their input regarding the agenda presented for their
consideration, and whether or not.a questionnaire should be sent
to the Crystal Bay neighborhood. Bernhardson further noted that
John Gerhardson had included information outlining possibilities
for a temporary Public Works Facility.
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Jabbour stated that the City should first find out which of
the Facility Committee members, if any, are still interested in
serving in that capacity. He said, "It will then be important
for Council to appoint new members and a chair."
Callahan suggested that it may not be.necessary for the
Facility Committee to continue with the same number of members it
initially had. He said, "We can proceed with the number of
members that al-e still interested, if that proves to be a
majority."
Jabbour indicated that he would like to see someone familiar
with Orono policies, as well as building knowledge, be appointed
to the Committee."
Bernhardson stated that the Council could send the letter
asking the members to indicate their interest in serving, but
that the role of the Committee has not yet been defined.
Callahan suggested sending a letter inviting the Facility
Committee members to the upcoming Work Session. He said, "We can
then see how many members come to the meeting, and determine what
we need to do from that point. At least those that attend will
get an understanding of the direction we are taking."
Jabbour indicated that there may be people who wish to
continue serving on the Committee that cannot attend the meeting
for one reason or another.
Callahan suggested including a question at the bottom of the
letter asking them if they wish to continue, and to indicate yes
or no. He further suggested that a self - ,:addressed stamped
envelope could be included to mail back their response.
It was the consensus of Council to accept the information
presented by Staff, and to proceed as suggested by Callahan.
(#18)STORM WATER MANAGEMENT
Bernhardson asked Council if they wished to consider
undertaking an overall storm water management program for the
City at an approximate cost of $225,000. He said, "In the event
Council do -as not wish to consider such a project at this time,
perhaps you would like to consider alternate methods of financing
storm water projects."
Butler asked whether the City needs to have such a plan in
response to proposed legislation.
Bernhardson replied, "The City should have a .storm water
management plan, though it is not yet mandatory to do so. I
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suspect that within the next five to ten years, it may be
mandatory. Orono's Comprehensive Plan Is predicatr!d on
preventing storm water runoff from entering Lake Minnetonka.
Implementing a storm water management program would be a physical
demonstration of our intention to uphold the Comprehensive Plan.
A storm water plan would also serve as a guide for future
development."
Butler asked what could be done to assure that the plan
implemented by the City would meet the criteria required by any
future legislation.
Bernhardson replied, "The State new requires that each
watershed district provide a storm water management plan. Of
course, we are within the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District, and
they have provisions that the local municipalities must meet.
The watershed districts have already set out guidelines and a
framework for such plans from the State. Of course it is
possible that somewhere down the line, new personnel may discard
the existing guidelines."
Mayor Peterson asked if considerations for alternative
financing of such projects is a result of the pending situation
with Livingston Avenue.
Bernhardson replied, "There are three ways to fund storm
water projects. One is to do a special assessment, as is
currently proposed for Livingston A•renue. The second method is
L. set up an Ad Valorum taxing district, which means that
assessments would be based on the values of the property within
the district, rather than square footage of the contribution to
the storm water runoff. A house that is worth more would pay
more. The third method is to set up a storm water utility which
would charge residents based on their lot size, or water usage.
That amount is added onto the utility bill. This avoids the need
`to go through the special assessment process."
Jabbour asked if, in the event such a program becomes
mandatory, there may be funding available for the project.
Bernhardson was skeptical that any funding woulld be
available from the government, and if funding were available,
that it would only pay for a small portion of the project.
Mayor Peterson asked Bernhardson if the City would be given
a certain number of years to complete the .project.
Bernhardson replied, "I believe that would be the case."
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Callahan said, "If the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District is
going -o prepare a storm water plan, then I would think we will
have to be in a position to meet their requirements ?"
Bernhardson stated that he would attempt :o more clearly
define the relationship between the cities and their respective
watershed districts, and to find out what legislation may be
forthcoming. He :stated that he would also work with the City
Engineer regarding costs and the vario -us elements involved with
such a project. He suggested that, in the meantime, Council may
wish :o give consideration :o alternatives for financing storm
water projects.
Council accepted the information Bernhardson presented, and
took no formal action.
( #19)LMCD COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Bernhardson stated that he and Councilmember Jabbour
participated in a meeting of approximately 12 of the 14 LPICD
Cities. .He said, "Of the five areas outlined in our letter to
the LMCD, we think there is appropriate conceptual direction on
four or them. I think trie L:�1CD is willing too modify the
Shoreland Management so that it is viewed only as a model
ordinance, in which they would have no responsibility or
interest, other than coordinating a s.horeland grant process. The
City of Orono of has applied separately, and it appears that the
D:1R will approve our separate application, once it is kno;,7n how
many cities prefer to apply through the LMCD. The LMCD is
willing to amend the Plan so that the Board structure remains the
same, and that they will not seek taxing authority., apart from
the 14 cities. Lastly.. I believe we generated some interest on
the part of . Minnetonka Beach and Mound as it relates to what
status this plan has visavis other agencies."
Bernhardson s::att=-d t:aat there will be an u- -)coming work
session involving staff member=s from each of the 14 cities and
the LMCD.
Jabbour s rated that i = is important to have the
representatives from the !.4 communities work together with the
Staff members from the respective cities.
Council accepted the information presented by Bernhardson,
and took no formal action.
( #20)STRATEGIC PLANNING
Council accepted the information presented by Bernhardson,
regarding 1991 Strategic Planning, and took no further action.
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( #21)STUBBS BAY SEWER - ZIESMER LETTER
Bernhardson presented Council with a letter from Todd &
Marie Ziesmer pertaining to assessment deferral for 15 to 20
years, if and when the Stubbs Bay sewer project is undertaken.
Goetten stated that the City is going to have to take a
stand on this issue. She said, "The construction costs keep
going up, which is not helping anyone."
No action was taken. S,-:aff will bring back to April 8, 1991
Council meeting.
( #22 *)MUNICIPAL BOARD PROCESS
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to accept the
information regarding the Municipal Board process for further
discussion daring the City Attorney's report. Motion, Ayes -5,
Nags -0. Motion passed.
( #23)1991 YARD WASTE DROP -OFF PROGRAM
RESOLUTION #2943
Mayor Peterson removed this item from the Consent Agenda for
discussion. She asked Gerhardson if Spring Park contributes
financially for their involvement in this program.
Gerhardson replied, "I believe the City of Spring Park had
three residents that dropped off yard wastes. I-= there was more
participation, the City of Spring Park would have reimbursed us."
Mayor Peterson asked if Spring Park will participate in the
program this year.
Gerhardson replied, "Yes, they will participate."
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to adopt
Resolution #2943, establishing a 1991 Yard Waste Program for
Orono and neighboring communities, and to submit an application
for funding reimbursement from Hennepin County. Motion, Ayes -5,
Nays -0. Motion passed.
( #24)1990 BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS
Councilmember Goetten and Mayor Peterson had both requested
the opportunity to discuss this item, and removed it fr.-.)m the
Consent Agenda.
Goetten stated that it was her understanding that items such
as this would not be placed on the Consent- Agenda. She requested
more time to review the iilformation presented, and suggested
tabling this item.
Mayor Peterson asked Bernhardson what process was used to
incorporate the budget amendments without changing the total
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( #24)1990 BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS CONTINUED
dollar amount.
Bernhardson s sated that he would p~ovide Council -with more
information in that respect.
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Butler, to table this
item. Motion, Ayes -5, Nays -0. Motion passed.
( #25 *)ADMINISTRATOR'S INFORMATION
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to accept the
City Administrator's Information regarding: North Ferndale, Alan
Carlson Development, Plastics Recycling, Contract Kennel Service,
January Receipts and Disbursements, Wire Transfers, and
Administrator's Goal Setting. Motion, Aves -5, Nays -0. Motion
passed.
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT: None.
(26 *)LICENSES
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve the
following license(s):
Special Events: L. Cramer Designers & Builders
Parade of Homes
2109 Sugarwoods Drive
April 7 -21
Residential Kennel: Wayne E. Carrier
1376 Nort -in Arm Drive
Willi Hayes /13. Zohara
565 Hanlon Avenue
Ross B. Nathanson
2420 Countryside Drive
Septic System Installer: Thompson Plumbing Corp.
15001 Minnetonka Industrial Road
Widmer Inc.
4250 Creekview Circle
Motion, Ayes -5, Nays -0. Motion passed.
( #27 *)BILLS
It was moved bv Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve
payment of the All Funds Account. Motion, Ayes -5, Nags -•0.
Motion passed.
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EXECUTIVE SESSION
At 10:18 p.m., City Attorney Barrett requested that Council
adjourn to an. Executive Session for the purpose of discussing
pending litigation.
Barbara A. Peterbon, Mayor
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