HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-12-1992 Council MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING
HELD OCTOBER 12, 1992
ROLL
The Council met on the above date with the following members
present: Acting Mayor J. Diann Goetten, Counc I Imembers Gabriel
Jabbour, Edward Callahan and Mary Butler. Mayor Barbara Peterson
was absent. The following represented the City staff: City
Administrator Ron Moorse, Public Works Director John Gerhardson,
Assistant Planning and Zoning Administrator Michael Gaffron, City
Attorney Thomas Barrett, City EngIneer.GIenn Cook and City Recorder
Teri Naab. Acting Mayor Goetten called the meeting to order at
7:00 P.M.
( #1) HAZARDOUS BUILDINGS ASSESSMENT - PUBLIC HEARING 7:00 - 7:05
P.M.
Moorse explained the public hearing is regarding assessments
against properties related to hazardous building action.
JoEllen Hurr asked why the City is paying half of the legal fees
incurred.
Moorse explained the hazardous building procedure was long and
leading toward a court proceeding, which would have meant
additional legal fees. The City, as part of a settlement with the-
property owners, offered to pay half of the legal fees to avoid a
court battle. The amount the City will pay is $10,226.
CONSENT AGENDA
Goetten removed Item #14 from the Consent Agenda.
Butler added Items #5 and 6.
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Callahan, to approve the
Consent Agenda as amended. Ayes 4, nays 0.
Motions for all items adopted by consent agenda will be included
in the minutes in their respective numerical order.
( * 02) APPROVAL OF MINUTES
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Callahan, to approve the
minutes of the regular meeting of the Council held on September 28,
1992. Ayes 4, nays 0.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Goetten announced the dedication of the Kelley Parkway on October
14th has been postponed because of the untimely death of Mary
Kelley.
( #3) #1621 TERRY JOHNSON,
1045 LINDEN LANE -
VARIANCES --RESOLUTION #3186
Mr. and Mrs. Terry Johnson were present.
Gaffron explained the applicants originally submitted their
proposal over a year ago. Since then, there have been many changes
to the proposal. The applicants propose the removal of an existing
detached garage to be replaced by an attached garage and a
driveway. They also propose a new deck and a second story addition
over the existing residence. This proposal results in the following
hardcover percentages: 0 -75' reduction from 8.9 %.to 7.2 %; 75 -250'
increase from 22.1% to 40.5 %; and a reduction in the 250 -500' zone.
He clarified that the applicants intend to keep the wall and
sidewalk system on the northwest corner of the house, but noted
that it is built with wooden cribbing containing non - compacted
gravel, that only the cribbing is considered hardcover, and the
square footage of existing walkway hardcover is equivalent to' the
amount reported for replacement.
Mr. Johnson stated they need to keep this system for drainage
purposes.
Gaffron reported the Planning Commission's main concern was the
steep lot and the amount of run -off funneled toward the lake. He
stated the City Engineer had reviewed the property that day.
Cook recommended the City condition approval on the applicants
maintaining the drainageway in a manner that prevents erosion.
Goetten asked if Cook felt the new proposal helps the drainage
situation.
Cook noted the renovation will channelize the drainage and will
increase the velocity of that run -off.
Goetten asked who is responsible if the improvements on the
property aggravate the drainage problem in the area.
Cook stated the City should make it known it is the responsibility
of the property owner to correct any future drainage problems.
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ZONING FILE #1621 - CONT.
Gaffron noted staff has discussed a retention pond somewhere on the
property or elsewhere in the neighborhood, which may be realized
at a later date.
Goetten clarified the applicants intend to use the existing
foundation and asked if that foundation has been inspected and
certified by a structural engineer.
Mr. Johnson stated prior to purchasing the property, they had a
contractor visit the site who indicated, because of the 12" block
used, the foundation.could support a second story.
Goetten explained that if the foundation is found to be unusable,
the City will require the house to be moved further back on the
property.
Callahan said the.Planning Commission felt the driveway would focus
a major amount of water in a different location. He said he
hesitates allowing double the amount of hardcover within the 75-
250' zone.
Butler felt, after review of the property, it is a very awkward
property and the applicants have a hardship for moving the garage
closer to the house. She agreed the driveway may create a river on
the property.
Mr. Johnson stated the run -off actually flows across the property
opposed to down the drive. He added, by decreasing the amount of
hardcover at the actual point of the water-entering the property,
it will allow for better absorption.
Jabbour suggested they consider a small landing area or berm at the
top of the drive to prohibit water from Linden Lane entering the
property.
Gaffron noted Cook has recommended a 3% side -to -side slope for the
driveway to help direct run -off to the sides rather than down the
length of the driveway.
Goetten agreed with Callahan that they should not allow the
applicants to double the amount of hardcover within a zone. She
said she would prefer the existing garage to remain in its present
location opposed to the new garage.
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ZONING FILE #1621 - CONT.
Jabbour felt this property is a good example of the DNR's intent
to allow a certain percentage of hardcover on a property within
1000' of the lake opposed to a certain percentage within different
zones. He felt the problem is the need for such a long driveway,
but noted the house is of modest size.
Jeff Johnson noted the Planning Commission felt the biggest impact
of this project being the off -site drainage concern, and they felt
if there is a chance to improve that situation, it is more
important than the hardcover issue.
Mr. Johnson felt they were actually improving the drainage
situation for their neighbors.
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Jabbour, to adopt Resolution
#3186 for Application #1621 for Terry Johnson, 1045 Linden Lane,
for variances to construct an attached garage and additions to the
existing residence, subject to the applicant being informed prior
to the issuance of a building permit of the City Engineer's
recommendations. Ayes 3, nays 1. Goetten voted nay.
Barrett suggested adding the following language to the resolution,
"as recommended by the City Engineer or as may be required by the
City Engineer in the future ". This will ensure the ability by the
City Engineer to monitor the situation in the future.
Butler accepted the Attorney's suggestion, Jabbour seconded the
amendment. Ayes 3, nays 1. Goetten voted nay.
Mrs. Johnson asked if they would have any recourse against the City
if in the future the drainage problem became worse.
Mr. Johnson asked that wording be added to ensure the City could
not require the removal of the improvement should it be determined
that it has caused additional drainage problems.
( * #4) #1743 ALBERT HANSER,
1685 FOX STREET -
FINAL SUBDIVISION - RESOLUTION 03187
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Callahan, to adopt Resolution
#3187 for Application #1743 for Albert Hanser of 1685 Fox Street,
approving the final subdivision of the property. Ayes 4,nays 0.
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( * #5) #1755 LEONARD NISKA,
.1204 SHADYWOOD ROAD -
AFTER- THE -FACT VARIANCE /CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - RESOLUTION #3188
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Callahan, to adopt Resolution
#3188 for Application #1755, Leonard Niska, 1204.Shadywood Road,
approving a variance and granting a conditional use permit for the
construction of a storage shed. Ayes 4, nays 0.
( * #6) #1761 MARK HUNSLEY,
3464 EASTLAKE STREET -
AFTER- THE -FACT VARIANCE - RESOLUTION #3189
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Callahan, to adopt Resolution
#3189 for Application #1761, Mark Hunsley, 3464 Eastlake Street,
approving a variance to construct a storage shed on Outlot B,
Bayside Beach. Ayes 4, nays 0.
( #7) #1765 JOHN MOORE,
801 TONKAWA ROAD - VARIANCE
Jim Cradit was present for this application.
Gaffron explained the existing house is approximately half within
the 0 -75' zone. The applicant is proposing an addition to the
existing kitchen and a second story addition over the master
bedroom, both within the 0 -75'• zone.
Jabbour stated the survey they were - provided does not show the
existing hardcover.
Gaffron noted a complete copy of the updated survey is further back
in the Exhibits.
Butler asked if the applicant anticipates doing foundation work for
the kitchen expansion.
Cradit noted the steep embankment below the kitchen area and the
amount of erosion is partly due to the fact that the house does not
have gutters. He stated the excavating for the block work needed
for the kitchen expansion will be done by hand.
Butler suggested that be made a condition of the ,resolution. She
added the property does not have its house numbers posted.
Goetten said she would like to see a trade -off of hardcover within
the same zone. She felt if the app II'cant expects to get permission
for an addition within a sensitive area, he should be expected to
give something up.
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ZONING FILE #1765 = CONT.
Jabbour asked if the walk from the .garage to the deck could be
eliminated. He felt this was an additional convenience.
Butler stated there are walks all around the property. She asked
If the applicant would I i ke to maintain the walk to the deck or get
permission for the kitchen expansion. She suggested walking on the
grass.
Gaffron pointed out hardcover in the 250 -500' zone may be under the
allowed percentage. Further discussion led to a conclusion that the
updated survey does not show gravel driveways existing in the-250-
500' zone.
Goetten suggested they Irequest a complete and corrected survey.
Jabbour suggested staff prepare a handout explaining survey
requirements and the City's policy on hardcover. Gaffron noted both
items are thoroughly explained in the building permit and zoning
applications, but are not always read or adhered to by applicants
or their agents.
It was moved by Callahan, seconded by Butler, to table Application
#1765 for John Moore, 801 Tonkawa Road, until the applicant
provides a complete survey and to allow the applicant time to
consider removal of hardcover within the 0 -75' zone. Ayes 4, nays
0.
Callahan suggested the applicant may wish to consider the removal
of both the walks.
( #8) SHORELAND FLEXIBILITY REQUEST:
A) STATUS UPDATE
B) FORMAL FLEXIBILITY REQUESTS - SPRING PARK, WAYZATA, TONKA BAY,
MINNETONKA BEACH AND WOODLAND
Gaffron explained other cities have proposed granting a "Shoreland
Impact Plan" conditional use permit in lieu of variance approval
for commercially zoned property to allow additional hardcover,, in
exchange for improvements required by the city. He stated during
the redevelopment process for the Navarre area, the City will find
most properties will require a variance to the hardcover ordinance.
He stated the DNR has expressed• that the City should not be
granting as, many variances as it currently does. He asked the
Council if they wished to formally respond to the formal
flexibility requests.
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SHORELAND FLEXIBILITY REQUESTS — CONT.
Callahan felt they should consider the option of granting of a
conditional use permit versus approval of a variance. He stated
currently there is not an economic force driving the redevelopment
of Navarre. He felt they should respond positively to the
flexibility requests.
Jabbour felt they should respond to these and all requests. He
noted the DNR has been very forceful with regard to the shoreland
regulations. He felt the response should thank the DNR for the
opportunity to review the proposals and urge the DNR to grant the
cities flexibility to maintain existing development.
JoEllen Hurr noted Minnetonka Beach has requested the same
flexibility as Orono. She felt any redevelopment of property should
provide for an improvement to the property. She stated Orono should
stress that fact when commenting to the DNR on the flexibility
requests.
Goetten concurred, but noted the City needs to recognize other
cities identity and needs.
Callahan stated the DNR has not drafted their overall plan with
relation to Lake Minnetonka. He said if the other cities are
planning to adopt a rational plan with regard to their actual city
development, then Orono should encourage the DNR to accept that
proposal.
Gaffron was directed to draft a letter of response to be reviewed
at the next meeting.
MAYOR /COUNCIL REPORT
A) Jabbour reported that some residents feel it is more attractive
to pay the f i ne for burning without a permit than to go through the
inspection process. He suggested a 60 day permit.
Butler suggested that renewal permits not be reinspected.
B) Jabbour noted he read in the Sailor newspaper that the Little
League group feels the City Council is opposed to.the ice arena.
He did not want the City to be divided between groups. He suggested
a letter to the Little League reiterating the Council's views.
C) Callahan requested a staff person attend the meeting to be held
by the Metropolitan Council.
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D) Callahan noted the agenda for the LMCD's Task Force indicates
the Chairman is looking for a consensus. He suggested, if the Orono
representative is not in favor of the consensus, a letter be sent
explaining Orono's position. He added, following the consensus
vote, the reason for the establishment of the Task Force has been
completed. He suggested at that point, all Orono representatives
dissolve from the Task Force.
Jabbour noted.he is very disturbed with the Task Force. He stated
al I members of the LMCD are on the Task Force and he felt they have
made a conscious effort to sway the outcome. He said he has been
lobbying to dissolve the Task Force.
Callahan stated he was under the impression that the Task Force was
to consist of a.number of different entities, of which, the LMCD
is one part.
Jabbour directed Moorse to send a letter to the LMCD designating
Jabbour as the Orono representative to the Task Force, and to
remind the LMCD that they should only have one representative also.
He asked that Dennis Osmoson and Gordon Kimball of the DNR be sent
a copy of the letter.
Callahan stated negotiation regarding Maxwell Bay can only be
between the City of Orono and the DNR.
Jabbour stated at the next meeting, he will accept the information,
raise his objections, and move to dissolve the Task Force, and
indicate Orono will not entertain any involvement with regard to
the landing with anyone other than the DNR.
Hurr indicated if the membership of the Committee was limited,
Jabbour would have lost allies as well as enemies.
ENGINEER'S REPORT
( #9) PAY REQUEST #1 — PUMP & METER SERVICE
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Butler, to authorize Pay
Request #1 for the installation of the hoists at the new Public
Works facility to Pump & Meter Service in the amount of $24,967.47.
Ayes 4, nays 0.
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( #10) BRIAR STREET - PUBLIC VS. PRIVATE
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Goetten, to table discussion
regarding this issue. Ayes 4, nays 0.
( * #11) ASSESSMENT FOR HAZARDOUS BUILDINGS - RESOLUTION #31.90
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Butler, to 'adopt Resolution
#3190 adopting the assessment roll for hazardous buildings action -
1992 - Ayes 4, nays 0.
( #12) ESTABLISH PROCESS FOR REVIEW OF FUTURE USE OF CURRENT CITY
HALL SITE
Moorse referred to a request by the Historical Society to be
allowed to preserve the Council Chambers and move it to a different
location.
Callahan suggested they proceed with plans to raze all other
buildings at the Crystal Bay City Hall site and replace the
buildings with grass.
Butler asked about the money they had planned to raise from the
property.
Jabbour suggested transferring the ownership of the sewer pond
property to the Park Commission and taking the money out of that
fund and putting it into the building fund.
Callahan suggested beginning the subdivision process for the sewer
plant site.
Goetten felt the City owes the residents consideration of the
Crystal Bay site and any future development.
Jabbour stated they will not be able to put in grass until next
spring, so that will allow time to plan for the site. He felt they
should proceed with the subdivision of the sewer pond site and go
ahead and sell the two lots, based on the financial situation.
Butler said she would rather develop the Crystal Bay site into a
park.
Callahan suggested sending a letter to the Pioneer Museum informing
them that the Council has not made a decision at this time.
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( #13) ESTABLISH CANVASSING BOARD MEETING
The Canvassing Board meeting was scheduled for November 4, 1992 at
4:00 p.m.
( #14) CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S SALARY ADJUSTMENT
Goetten explained there are some issues the Council wished to
review prior to approving.
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to. tab le a decision
on the City Administrator's one -year anniversary salary adjustment.
Ayes 4, nays 0.
( #15) RESCHEDULE 1993 BUDGET WORK SESSION
Callahan stated it is unclear as to how the City will be affected
by the HACA credit in the coming year. He stated he would like to
review this at the work session.
A work session to review the 1993 proposed budget was established
for Friday, November 6, 1992 at 3:00 p.m.
( #16) CITY FACILITIES FURNITURE ORDER /FUEL STORAGE
Moorse explained they have taken an inventory of existing furniture
wh i ch can be used i n the new bu i I d i ng . He asked that the do l I ar
amount be changed to $80,693 to reflect the inclusion of conference
tables for the Council Chambers.
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Jabbour, to authorize the
furniture purchase for the new facilities, not to exceed
$80,693.00. Ayes 4, nays 0.
Moorse explained the Council approved the bid for fuel storage by
Pump & Meter, and it was discovered at a later date that the bid
did not include certain items. Pump & Meter resubmitted an
unacceptable bid. He explained they have now submitted a bid for
$75,354 which includes everything including all costs related to
excavating and dewatering.
Jabbour asked the status of the contingency fund.
Moorse stated they are still within the amount allotted for
furniture and equipment. However, every dollar of that fund has
been allocated.
Jabbour reiterated they have not allowed for any type of emergency.
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CITY FACILITIES — CONT.
Moorse reviewed.the items that have been deferred to date.
Jabbour felt they have not budgeted enough for the demolition of
the existing buildings. He asked if the cost savings of not
purchasing the fuel tanks has been reviewed.
Gerhardson noted he has reviewed the issue of transport versus tank
wagon delivery and it was determined it would cost $.05 to .08 more
per gallon.
Butler felt it would. be penny wise and pound foolish to wait on
something that is as involved as the installation of gas tanks.
It was moved by Callahan, seconded' by Butler, to authorize the
purchase of fuel storage tanks from Pump & Meter for an amount of
$75,354. Ayes 4, nays 0.
( * #17.) LICENSES
There were no licenses.
( * #18) BILLS
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Callahan, to approve payment
of the All Funds Account. Ayes 4, nays 0.
ADJOURNMENT
Acting Mayor Goetten adjourned the regular Orono City Council
meeting at 9:40 p.m. to Executive Session. Ayes 5, nays 0.
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