HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-14-1992 Council MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING ,
HELD SEPTEMBER 14, 1992
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The Council met on the above date with the following. members
present: Mayor Barbara Peterson, Councilmembers J. Diann Goetten,
Gabriel Jabbour, Edward Callahan and Mary Butler. The following
represented the City staff: Acting City Administrator John
Gerhardson, Building & Zoning Administrator Jeanne Mabusth,
Assistant Planning and Zoning Administrator Michael Gaffron, City
Attorney Thomas Barrett, City Engineer Glenn Cook and City Recorder
Teri Naab. Finance Director Tom Kuehn and Chief of Police Stephen
Sullivan arrived later in the meeting. Mayor Peterson c "ailed the
meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
( #1) CONSENT AGENDA
Butler added Items #9, 11 and 12 and removed Item #22 from the
Consent Agenda.
Callahan removed Items #2'and 22.
Gerhardson added Item #16.
Goetten said-she did not feel the City should have to pay half of,
the charges.
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve the Consent
Agenda as amended. Ayes 5, nays 0.
Motions for all items adopted by consent agenda will be included
in the minutes In their respective numerical order.
( #2) APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Callahan referred to Page 2, paragraph 8. He recalled that Mr. Luce
pointed out the principal for purchasing the capital equipment
would come from the City of Long Lake, and at some point in the
meet I ng, i n response by a spec i f i c quest`i on from Jabbour, the Mayor
of Long Lake stated that Long Lake would pay for the capital
improvements. All Members agreed and asked that the minutes be
changed to reflect that conversation.
It was moved by Callahan, seconded by Butler, to table approval of
the minutes of the special Council meeting of August 18, 1992. Ayes
5, nays 0.
Butler suggested that a representative of the Long Lake Council
also sign the approved minutes.
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( * #3) APPROVAL OF MINUTES
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve the minutes
of the regular Council meeting of August 24, 1992. Ayes 5, nays 0.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
( #4) #1748 ROBERT & RITA HOVLAND,
1245 NORTH ARM DRIVE -
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT /VARIANCE
Rita Hovland was present.
Mabusth explained that the application was reviewed by the Planning
Commission at both the July and August meetings. Planning
Commission denied the amended proposal based on size of the
structure and the Planning Commission felt because of that size,
the structure should meet the setback ordinance. The building has
been reduced from 30'x33' to 25'x36'. Lot coverage was no longer
an issue.
Goetten suggested shifting the building thereby only requiring one
variance. She questioned the structure width of 25' and noted
boards come in 24' lengths. She stated it would be less expensive
to build the garage at a 24' width.
Jabbour noted the applicants may have felt they should not impose
more on one-of the adjacent neighbors. He asked Mrs. Hovland to
comment on Goetten's question..
Hovland stated once the walls are up, a 24' wide garage would be
reduced to 23' of usable space inside and they need 24'. She
pointed out one Planning Commission member did vote for the
proposal because he felt they had followed the directives of the
Planning Commission.
Callahan referred to the minutes of the July 20th meeting where the
applicants stated the reason the large garage was needed was
because their son was moving into the house and has two vehicles
and a boat. He asked if the applicants were trying to make the
property hold more equipment than is feasible.
Hovland noted the graveled area has been reduced to one car width
and will be used more as a convenience as the garage is far from
the entrance to the front of the house.
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ZONING FILE. #1748 - CONT.
Butler felt there were a couple of applications before them tonight
where the applicants were caught .between two groups of Planning
Commission members. She felt applicants that complied with the
directives of the Planning Commission should be recognized for
doing so.
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Jabbour, to direct staff to
draft a resolution approving setback variances for Application
#1748 for Robert and Rita Hovland of 1245 North Arm Drive,
approving a 15' side setback from the north lot line and a 13'
setback from the south lot Fine. Ayes 5, nays 0.
( #5) #1750 CHARLES & SHIRLEY PYLE,
3548 IVY PLACE -
VARIANCES
Charles and Shirley Pyle and Daryl Hanson were present.
Mabusth explained this application was also reviewed at both the
July and August Planning Commission meetings. She noted the revised
proposal includes additional removal of 75 -250' hardcover at 172
s.f., and the 663 s.f. roof structure originally proposed has been
reduced to 374 s.f. She noted the real issue for this proposal is
the lot coverage. Lot coverage was originally proposed at 24.5%
and has been reduced to 21.5 %. The Planning Commission recommended
approval based on lot coverage be held at 18 %, which would mean the
applicants would have to give up either the roof structure or the
family room addition.
Butler stated here is another situation where the applicants were
given directives from the Planning Commission and came back with
a proposal and were denied.
Goetten felt that does not mean that the vote should have been
changed.
Jabbour agreed with Butler. He expressed concern about residents
exerting energy and money on revised plans and the City does not
act in good faith.
Goetten stated the lot is small and has excessive amounts of
hardcover. She asked the applicants if there were any other areas
where they could reduce hardcover.
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ZONING FILE #1750 - CONT.
Hanson said from the beginning they knew they would have to make
concessions, and they tried to reduce the hardcover prior to
submitting the original proposal. After the first Planning
Commission meeting they were asked to reduce hardcover percentages
more, which they have done.
Jabbour noted that at one point a project becomes over ambitious
for the lot. He stated the City's ordinances reflect their concern
about water run -off into the Lake.
Mr. Pyle said the first group of-Planning Commission members to
review the proposal did visit the site and felt the project was
beneficial, but the second group did not inspect the property.
Goetten stated she appreciates the cuts the applicants have
proposed, but felt the project too ambitious for the lot. She
agreed with the Planning Commission's recommendation of 18% total
lot coverage.
Mrs. Pyle referred to two small planting areas in the 0 -75' setback
area. She stated the boxes around the plantings and plastic
underneath could be removed.
Mabusth stated this would reduce 0 -75' hardcover by 177 s.f.
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to approve
Application #1750 for Charles and Shirley Pyle, 3548 Ivy Place, for
variances to construct an addition to the existing residence, based
on Condition #1 of the resolution be removed and a condition that
the triangular planting areas and plastic underneath be removed,
and limiting lot area coverage to 21.5 %. Ayes 2, nays 3. Callahan,
Jabbour and Goetten voted nay. Motion failed.
It was moved by Cal lahan,.seconded by Goetten, to table Application
#1750 for Charles and Shirley Pyle for two weeks to allow the
applicants time to reconsider their proposal. Ayes 3, nays 2. Mayor
Peterson and - Butler voted hay. Motion carried.
Goetten explained that if the application were denied, the
applicants would not be allowed to return with another proposal for
six months.
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( #6) #1757 ALBERT D. HANSER,
1685 FOX STREET -
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - RESOLUTION #3175
Albert Hanser and Jack Taylor were present.
Mabusth explained this is a request for a conditional use permit
for a guest house use. She noted the applicant has followed the
directives of the preliminary subdivision approval and have filed
the application. The structure is non - conforming because of its
substandard setback from a recreational development lake. The Issue
for this review is the requirement of the septic code to replace
the system if it is deemed non - conforming. She stated it has been
found non - conforming the based on septic test information received
for the rest 'of the property, mound systems would have to, be
installed on the property due to the high water table. The age of
the system suggests the required 3' separation could not be met.
The guest house currently has a standard trench system. Based on
code requirements, the system would have to be replaced within 12
months.
Hanser stated he has lived in Orono for 20+ years and his property
is 35+ acres. He referred to a letter from Suilivans which attests
to the functionality of the septic system and .how it has been
maintained In the past. He said It would cost as much money to
prove the system meets the code as would a new system. He noted
they do not rent the guest house and their daughter lives there
now. He said he would be willing to make a written commitment that
they will continue to maintain the system as has been done in the
past. 'Hanser indicated the rules have changed dramatically since
they started the subdivision process and they have been caught In
the middle.
Taylor stated the Council should consider the rule, if it isn't
broken, don't fix it. He stated the septic system was installed per
the code effective at the time, which the current ordinance
requires. He noted Weckman indicated the system may be dumping
pollutants into the water, and Taylor asked whose responsibility
it was to prove.
Goetten said she asked the same question. She stated she was told
an on -site evaluator could clarify that issue for a couple hundred
dollars. She felt that would not be too much to ask.
Jabbour stated this is a policy question on non - conforming system.
He felt the applicant has presented a very good subdivision and
expressed a desire to work with him to resolve the issues.
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ZONING FILE #1757 - CONT.
Gaffron reviewed why the new shoreland regulations have 'more
restrictive standards than previous codes. He explained that for
about 15 years there has been a standard for ail new systems that
If there is mottling present, which is an indicator in the soil
that there is a seasonal perched water table, a 3' separation above
the mottling is required. The DNR and the PCA mandated that any
existing system that does not meet that separation is considered
anon- conforming system, and in shoreland areas, the DNR has said
those systems must be made conforming.
Gaffron explained that staff does not have all the facts regarding
the septic system for the guest house, and absent testing in the
immediate area of the system, staff has had to look at testing done
on the remainder of the property which indicates mound systems
would be required. He said the logical thing to do would be to hire
a site eva I uator to do so i l borings at the site of the existing
drainfield to determine its relationship to the mottling elevation.
Hanser stated the rules keep changing and felt the City should not
continue to hold up the subdivision process because of this issue.
He said he would be happy to hire an evaluator.
Jabbour asked if the system is now considered illegal non-
conforming.
Gaffron stated by definition, the system is non - conforming and
cannot stay that way based on the new shoreland requirements.
Taylor indicated the definition of a conforming system is one built
to codes not withstanding its location.
Barrett opined that if the City decides to change its rules, they
must add an obligation to provide for non - conforming structures,
and if that is not provided for, it might be considered a taking
of property. However, the regulatory values Imposed by the DNR, PCA
and the City with respect to shoreland property, may involve a
pubii*c interest which is high enough to allow the City to regulate
even non - conforming uses and require them to be upgraded.
Jabbour asked if they have a way to allow the subdivision to
continue conditioned upon the applicant providing the information
required to prove the system is either conforming or non-
conforming.
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ZONING FILE #1757 - CONT.
Mabusth stated they can add a condition in the conditional use
permit resolution with regard to the septic system and noted that
the subdivision application is completely separate from the
conditional use permit application, so that the conditional use
permit can be approved and not hold up the subdivision.
Taylor said they would like an additional time period for testing.
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Jabbour, to adopt Resolution
#3176 for Application #1757 for Albert D. Hanser, 1685 Fox Street,
fora conditional use permit to allow the guest house use, amending
the condition allowing a one month testing period and if deemed
non - conforming, a one year time periodwto replace the system. Ayes
5, nays 0.
Hanser added that If the system needs to be replaced, it wound
diminish his property values.
Gaffron stated he would be happy to meet the applicant and his site
evaluator on the site when the soil borings are commenced.
( #7) #1758 JAMES LAWRENCE,
1550 SIXTH AVENUE NORTH -
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - RESOLUTION #3177
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to adopt
Resolution #3177 for Application #1758 for James Lawrence, 1550
Sixth Avenue North, approving a conditional use permit for a guest
house use. Ayes 5, nays 0.
( #8) #1759 P. PROFT /R. WELLS,
60/70 MYRTLEWOOD ROAD -
SUBDIVISION OF A LOT LINE REARRANGEMENT - RESOLUTION #3178
Robert Mitchell was present to represent the applicants.
Mabusth explained the subdivision involves approximately 1/3 of an
acre, half of which is wetland. The WeIIs' property currently
consists of 1.6 acres. The area proposed to be subdivided off could
not be used for septic purposes due to its proximity to the
wetland. There is not an alternate septic site on the Wells'
property, but the existing system could be expanded upon. The area
in question appears-to be part of the Proft property.
Mitchell reviewed the Proft residence is oriented to face the
southwest. He stated without the Profts controlling the area, it
is an invitation for a,nuisance to occur in the future. The Profts
wish to stabilize the neighborhood situation.
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ZONING FILE #1759 - CONT.
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Jabbour, to adopt Resolution
#3178 fo.r Application #1759 for P. Proft and R. Wells, 60 and 70
Myrtlewood Road, subdivision of a lot line rearrangement. Ayes 5,
nays 0.
( * #9) #1760 ERIC NIELSEN,
2140 PROSPECT AVENUE -
VARIANCES - RESOLUTION #3179
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to adopt Resolution
#3179 for Application #1760, Eric Nielsen, 2140 Prospect Avenue,
for variances to construct a new residence. Ayes 5, nays 0.
( * #10) 845 OLD LONG LAKE ROAD - AMENDMENT OF EASEMENT
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve the filing
of an amended drainage and utility easement for Hilltop Farm and
direct the Mayor and Clerk to execute the Consent Form. Ayes 5,
nays 0.
MAYOR /COUNCIL REPORT
A) Butler referred to Item #9. She stated that if this is a common
lot size and configuration in the neighborhood, as stated numerous
times, and sewer is available, the Council should seriously
consider rezoning the area.
Callahan cautioned the City 1n doing so as they have been Informed
by the Metropolitan Council that the City should rezone to larger
parcels.
B) Goetten urged all to vote in the primary.
C) Jabbour reported on the Public Access Task Force. He explained
the LMCD originally thought the members of the Task Force should
be divided into 25 sub - committees. The Task Force was finally
divided into two groups commissioned to study the criteria for
counting car /trailer parking spaces and for actually counting those
spaces. He said the LMCD was incapable of conducting the meetings
so a facilitator was hired. He explained that after the criteria
was agreed upon, the spaces were counted, but the LMCD did not
agree with the number they came up with and those numbers were
manipulated. The Chairman of the Task Force was about to report to
the LMCD Board on those findings when Jabbour discovered the
numbers had been changed from 845 parking spaces to 148. At the
last meeting, the LMCD realized the original numbers might be
correct. He said he has volunteered to raise the money to hire a
certified engineer to draw those parking spaces on half section
maps based on the negotiated criteria. He realized at the last
meeting, that the LMCD was chipping away at the criteria. .
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MAYOR /COUNCIL REPORT - CONT.
Jabbour expressed his frustration with the Task Force and thanked
the City of Minnetrista for attending those meetings. He felt the
City should revise their position and inform the DNR that they wish
to deal directly with the DNR on the .access issue. He reported the
DNR is preparing a drawing to present on, the Maxwell Bay access at
the September 28th meeting. He suggested to the DNR that they
discuss the proposal with the neighbors.
Goetten asked if there were any other locations within Zone 1 that
could be used for access.
Jabbour - expIained the City has a promise from the DNR that the
Maxwell Bay access will not proceed until the Task Force comes up
with findings. He noted the City has made land available in Zone
1 for future access use. He added now there is a willing buyer and
seller for this site.
Callahan stated he was not under the impression that the Task Force
would be dealing with details of the access site.
Jabbour stated he told the Task Force that the City Council of
Orono will be adamant that Orono standards should apply on Orono
land. He stated it is very embarrassing for the Lake Minnetonka
community to be portrayed in front of the State Legislators that
out of 8,000 boats on the Lake, there is 148 available to the
general public and the rest are pr.ivate. He said his question to
the LMCD is, "What have you been doing in the last 30 years, and
out of the 148 spaces, 67 are within Orono at North Arm, and they
are planning an additional 60 -70 within 2,000 feet. There is 152
miles of lakeshore, why is Orono paying more than its fair share ?"
He added because of foresight In the early 1970s by the City to
have open land, and the pressure is on those that did the right
thing. He suggested the Council express their desire to have the
Task Force dissolved after it presents its findings and let Orono
deal directly with DNR.
ENGINEER'S REPORT
( * #11) PAY REQUEST #1 - LIFT STATION #9
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to authorize Pay
Request #1 for Lift Station #9 renovation to New Mech Companies in
the amount of $10,972.50. Ayes 5, nays 0.
( * #12) PAYMENT REQUEST #2 - STUBBS BAY SEWER PROJECT
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to authorize Payment
#2 for the Stubbs Bay sanitary sewer project, to Progressive
Contractors, Inc., in the amount of $305,777.08. Ayes 5, nays 0.
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( #12A) PAY REQUEST #2 — 400,000 GALLON ELEVATED TANK
It was moved by Mayor Peterson, seconded by Jabbour, to authorize
Payment #2 for the 400,000 gallon elevated tank to PDM, Inc. in the
amount of $130,492.00. Ayes 5, nays 0..
( #13) LONG LAKE FIRE CONTRACT
Chris Dietson and 'Butch Loomis were present.
Dietson understood the status of the fire contract as set forth in
his letter dated September 10th. He explained after the special
meeting held on August 18th, Moorse sent him a letter on August
26th. After that, a meeting was held with representatives from both
cities to adjust the contract. As a result of that meeting, Long
Lake proposed the terms set forth in his letter. He stated at the
conclusion of that meeting, Moorse and Sullivan were going to
recommend approval of the proposal to Orono Council. He reviewed
the terms of the contract.
Callahan clarified that Moorse suggested to Dietson that the
Council would consider a three year contract.'
Dietson agreed.
Loomis stated at the end of the meeting two weeks ago, both Moorse
and Sullivan said they would recommend the three year contract.
Jabbour explained that Moorse has not had the chance to deal with
the Council's concerns. He said he would not agree to a contract
until those concerns are addressed. He stated he would like to do
things on a longer term. He indicated there are four other
municipalities in the background waiting for a response from Orono.
Goetten noted the Council expressed concerned about any contract
other than a one year contract as there are several issues the two
cities need to further discuss. She understood the Orono' CounciI
was willing to accept the terms proposed at the meeting held on
August 18th.
Dietson stated the Council's positron is a surprise to him. He said
Moorse's letter stated they would accept the proposal presented on
August 18th with two modifications with respect to capital
equipment and the advisory committee. He called Moorse at that time
and told him it was not acceptable and they had another meeting.
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LONG LAKE FIRE CONTRACT - CONT.
Callahan reiterated at the special meeting held on August 18th,
both Dietson and the Mayor of Long Lake stated that Long Lake was
going to pay for the capital equipment and it was suggested to Long
Lake that Orono.would accept that offer. He noted the equipment
Long Lake was going to pay for was $28,000 and now they are
proposing to pay for $14,000 worth of equipment. He said it
occurred to him that Long Lake did not have the money to pay for
the equipment, but he has read in the newspaper that not only do
they have money to pay for the $28,000, but indeed they have enough
to pay for the whole fire department.
Mayor Peterson noted the approval of the proposal was tabled at the
August 18th meeting because she had not received, the proposal in
time to properly review. She reiterated that Moorse has been
listening to five different people and may have felt the Council
was going to accept a three year contract. She stated after their
meeting with Moorse the previous Thursday afternoon, he was aware
of the Council's position.
Dietson said he was not authorized to accept a one year contract
and would need to take the counter offer back to Long Lake for
their,consideration.
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to direct the
City Administrator to negotiate a one year contract prior to
September 22, 1992 based on terms of the contract submitted by Long
Lake at the special meeting held on August 18, 1992. Ayes 3, nays
2. Callahan and Butler voted nay. Motion carried.
Mayor Peterson asked Loomis to consider another special meeting to
discuss the contract.
( #14) SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT - VIKING BASSMASTERS' FISHING TOURNAMENT
Tom Nelson and Ted Kowalski were present.
Kowalski explained the bass club is similar to soft ball groups.
He stated the tournament has been held at North Shore Marina-for
the last 16 years, and is geared toward family involvement. He
noted they are a non - profit organization and they donate any money
made on the tournament. He said they try to keep the group as quiet
as possible. They launch at North Arm and have inspectors on site
looking for exotics. He felt by denying their license, the Council
would not be putting any pressure on North Shore Marina as they do
not get any benefit from the event.
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SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT - CONT.
Mayor Peterson suggested the Bass Club begin the' process earlier
the next year.
Kowalski asked that the Council consider waiving the late fee.
It was moved by Mayor Peterson, seconded by Goetten, to approve the
Viking Bass Masters application for a special event permit for a
fishing tournament at North Shore Marina on October 4, 1992, and
to refund the late fee, with the understanding that the penalty
will not be waived in future years. Ayes 4, nays 0. Jabbour
abstained.
( #15) GRONBERG (LEAF STREET LOT) ASSESSMENT
Mayor Peterson recommended tabling this ,issue as she had Just
received the information from Mr. Gronberg's attorney. She noted
specific questions raised in the information, and felt in all
fairness to Gronberg, the Council should have a chance to review
the information. She stated the Council would make a decision at
their meeting of September 28th.
It was moved by Mayor Peterson, seconded by Jabbour, to table
consideration of Donald Gronberg's Stubbs Bay sewer assessment
appeal. Ayes 5, nays 0.
( * #16) ESTABLISH PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR CERTIFICATION OF HAZARDOUS
BUILDINGS ASSESSMENT
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to set a public
hearing for October 12, 1992 at 7:00 p.m. at the Council Chambers
to consider the special assessment roll for the 1992 hazardous
buildings. Ayes'-5, nays 0.
( #17) 1993 BUDGET & PROPOSED TAX LEVY - RESOLUTION #3180
Kuehn noted Moorse has proposed a $10,000 increase in the general
fund operating expense and has not proposed any changes in property
tax or reserve.
Jabbour felt the'Council needed to thoroughly review the budget at
a workshop.
Goetten was concerned about making additional allowances to
compensate for cuts in State aid.
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1993 BUDGET & PROPOSED TAX LEVY — CONT.
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to adopt
Resolution #3180 approving the proposed maximum 1992 tax levy
collectible in 1993 at a 5.6% increase.
Butler asked why the difference i n the do l I ar amounts shown for the
general fund and the tax levy.
Kuehn stated the tax levy amount does not include all sources of
revenue.
Jabbour said that residents will not understand that a 6.5% sales
tax has been included in expenditures, which is something new the
City must pay.
Kuehn stated because of the HACA increase proposed, there will be
a reduction in property taxes paid to the City. He added the tax
capacity for the City has changed and actually affects the
percentage paid.
Jabbour noted during the workshop he will be trying to reduce line
items in order to build an additional reserve fund..
Vote: Ayes 2, nays 3. Goetten, Callahan and Butler voted nay.
Motion failed.
Goetten stated she does not want to be locked into reducing line
items.
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Goetten, to adopt Resolution
#3180 approving the proposed maximum 1992 tax levy collectible in
1993 of $2,120,135, an increase of 8.13% over the tax levy
collectible in 1992. Ayes 3, nays 2. Mayor Peterson and Jabbour
voted nay. Motion carried.
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Callahan, to establish the
proposed 1993 General Fund expenditure budget in the amount of
$3,163,715, an increase of 4.59% over the 1992 General Fund
expenditure budget. Ayes 3, nays 2. Mayor Peterson and Jabbour
voted nay. Motion carried.
( #18) LEE & JULIE HARREN INCLUSION /EXCLUSION FROM STUBBS BAY SEWER
PROJECT
Lee Harren was present.
Jabbour agreed with Mr. Harren that the exclusion criteria has
changed since the beginning.
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HARREN — STUBBS BAY SEWER PROJECT — CONT.
Mayor Peterson also agreed.
Gaffron noted there were two additional properties included with
the project based on the design of the pipe. He said the question
here is, are there additional properties with similar situations
as Harren?
Jabbour asked how far Harren is from the Lake.
Gaffron said Harren is approximately 500' from the Lake but
geographically one could argue that the property should be hooked
up to sewer. He stated the pipe would have gone right by his house
if it had been placed in the street, and properties on both sides
of him will be sewered.
Butler suggested that a future owner will be extremely mad at the
C i t y when the septic system falls and he finds out the City d i d not
force the owner to connect at this time.
Jabbour said if it were his house he would hook up immediately. He
stated he is trying to interpret the City's philosophy.
Goetten asked if the property is within the MUSA boundaries.
Gaffron noted that line has been set to be concurrent with the two
acre zoning district.
Butler said that after making accommodations in the design of the
sewer responding to Harren's concerns, for him to now say he does
not want sewer is unthinkable.
Harren indicated he was not involved in the discussion to move the
pipe. He felt the City moved the pipe to best serve their
interests, not his. He stated he tried to suggest to the City the
best alternative. He added, in 1989 he installed a new mound system
and was told at that time he could not use a holding tank until the
sewer was available. He noted he was •included because of a
technicality, and he should be excluded for the same criteria.
Gaffron said from early on the City has tried to accommodate
Harren. He referred to a letter dated in 1989 to Eiden Construction
stating he would be happy to-discuss options of action with regards
to the septic system.
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HARREN — STUBBS BAY SEWER PROJECT — CONT.
Cook stated the cheapest way to hook the property to sewer would
be to run the pipe to the west, leaving the effluent pump in and
connecting it to the sewer line.
Harren stated the pipe would then run through his grove of black
walnut trees and under his pool. He stated the line would be over
260'.
Cook said the line would be half as expensive as the gravity line
to the east.
Jabbour asked the difference between the Harren and the Ilse
situation.
Gaffron said there was no difference, and the Ilses were given the
option of being excluded from the project.
Callahan agreed with Butler on the position of a future owner, and
suggested filing a document in the chain of title expressing the
City's position that !twill be the responsibility of the property
owner to connect to the sewer at a later date.
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Mayor Peterson, to exclude Lee
and Julie Harren's property at 175 Landmark Drive from the Stubbs
Bay sewer project, subject to the owner signing a document to be
filed within the chain of title notifying any future owner of the
responsibility to connect to the sewer at their expense within one
year if and when the septic system fails. Ayes 4, nays 1. Butler
voted nay. Motion carried.
Barrett stated the document could perhaps be done in conjunction
with the settlement for litigation.
Harren asked that he not be required to incur additional legal
expense.
Callahan noted the document is to protect the City and the City
will draft the appropriate document. He added, the City is not
recommending to Harren that he sign such document.
Goetten stated she felt the City had been dealing with all owners
In good faith with regard to this project.
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING
HELD SEPTEMBER 14, 1992
( #19) ESTABLISH DATE FOR KELLEY PARKWAY DEDICATION
Dedication of Kelley Parkway was set for Wednesday, October 14,
1992 at 4:00 p.m.
( #20) RECYCLING AGREEMENT
Gerhardson explained there is not an increase in the new recycling
contract and the company has added the collection of magazines. He
felt the City may be able to get a longer term contract which could
save the City money, and stated he would contact the recycling
company about this. He reported the County has changed the method
of refund from a percentage to an entitlement, which will reduce
the refund by approximately $3,000.
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Callahan, to extend the
recycling agreement with E -Z Recycling for 1993 and add the
collection of magazines to the items being picked up, for an amount
not to exceed $63,180. Ayes 5, nays 0.
( * #21) COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENT & PERFORMANCE REVIEW - POLICE CHIEF
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to increase Stephen
Sullivan's salary from Level 12, Step II to Level 12, Step III
effective August 19, 1992. In addition, when the Compensation Plan
is adjusted effective January 1, 1993, his salary will be adjusted'
accordingly. Ayes 5, nays 0.
( #22) COMBINED CHANGE ORDER FOR CITY FACILITIES TO REFLECT CURRENT
BUDGET STATUS
Butler stated this is the second time the contractor has not
provided the' information requested, and she expressed her
frustration.
Jabbour asked staff to take the time to explain this frustration
to the contractor.
( * #23) POLICE SERVICE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF LONG LAKE
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to accept the
information regarding the Police Service Contract with the City of
Long Lake. Ayes 5, nays 0.
( * #24) FALL CLEAN UP DATE
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to designate October
17, 1992 as the Fall Clean Up Day with the guidelines established
as noted in the memo of September 10, 1992. Ayes 5, nays 0..
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING
HELD SEPTEMBER 14, 1992
( * #25) APPOINT ADDITIONAL ELECTION JUDGES - RESOLUTION #3181
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to adopt Resolution
#3181 appointing additional -election judges for the primary
election to be held September 15, 1992 and the General Election to
be held November 3, 1992. Ayes 5, nays 0.
( #26) LICENSES
Callahan noticed Mr. Larson is requesting a license for the Parade
of Homes. He said a rumor has swept through the City that perhaps
In obtaining permission to change the driveway configuration,.-.the.
full facts were not revealed by Larson, or rather were concealed.
He suggested staff review the tape of `the discussion with Mr.
Larson, and should there appear Ito_ be',.a discrepancy in' the
statement concerning maple trees in p,a,rt i`cu l °ar ,and theatfacfs�-about
the maple trees, that the permit not be granted'. He said-`he
recalled Mr. Larson indicating a major reason for the
reconfiguration of the driveway was to save mature maple trees. It
was suggested afterwards that no maple trees exist on the property
in that location.
Mabusth noted she found that the Building Inspector did not
understand driveway placement in the development, but staff will
revisit the issue of driveway placement in the Sugarwoods plat.
Jabbour understood there was a straight drive being used by
construction crews.
She clarified when standing on site and looking straight up towards
the garage openings, as stated by the developer, it appeared some
young maple trees would be lost with that driveway alignment. The
straight drive used by construction crews is actually in a
different location than the drive staked for Council's review at
their September 14th meeting.
It was moved by Butler, seconded by Mayor Peterson to approve the
following licenses:
Septic System Installer License:
Duane Ritter Excavating
Special Event Permit - Parade of Homes:
Scott Larson Homes, 2112 Sugar Woods Drive
Richwood Homes, 2455 Old Beach Road
L. Cramer Co., 2012 Sugar Woods Drive
Cudd Company, 2110 Sugar Woods Drive
Ayes 5, nays 0.
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING
HELD SEPTEMBER 14, 1992
( * #27) BILLS
It was moved by Goetten, seconded by Butler, to approve payment of
the All Funds Account. Ayes 5, nays 0.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Peterson adjourned the regular Orono City Council meeting at
10:06 p.m. to Executive Session. Ayes 5, nays 0.
ATTEST:
)orothy
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II City Clerk
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Barbara Peterson, Mayor
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