HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-09-1995 Council MinutesORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 911995
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The Council met on the above date with the following members present: Mayor Edward
Callahan Jr., Council Members J. Diann Goetten, Gabriel Jabbour, JoEllen Hurr, and
Charles Kelley. Representing Staff were City Administrator Ron Moorse, City Attorney
Tom Barrett, Public Works Director John Gerhardson, Building and Zoning
Administrator Jeanne Mabusth, Assistant Planning and Zoning Adminstrator Michael
Gaffron, City Engineer Glenn Cook, and Recorder Sherry Frost. Mayor Callahan called
the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
PRESENTATION - BOD HARDIN, WAYZATA AMERICAN LEGION TO
LARRY TOMCHECK
Members of the Wayzata American Legion Post presented an award to Officer Tomcheck
for his heroic efforts in the life saving of Mr. Arneson in 1994 on Lake Minnetonka. Mr.
Arneson was found unconscious after diving from his boat into shallow water near Big
Island. Officer Tomcheck performed CPR awaiting the assistance of the Hennepin
County Sheriffs Water Patrol. Tomcheck was congratulated by Mayor Callahan and the
Orono City Council.
( * #1) CONSENT AGENDA
• Items #3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 15 were added to the Consent Agenda, while 42 was
removed. Jabbour moved, Goetten seconded, to approve the Consent Agenda as
amended. Ayes 5, Nays 0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
( #2) REGULAR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 25, 1995
Jabbour said the minutes should include as part of the Mayor /Council Report a discussion
regarding notifying the residents of Old Beach Road to remind them of their promise to
ask the City of Minnetonka Beach for a left turn lane from County Road 15 onto Old
Beach Road. This has not been attempted, and the Council needs to address this issue
again.
Jabbour moved, Hurr seconded, to approve the Minutes as amended of the Regular City
Council Meeting of September 25, 1995 as amended. Ayes 5, Nays 0.
PARK COMMISSION COMMENTS
There was no Park Commission report_
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PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS •
There was no Planning Commission report.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
( * #3) #2044 GEORGE OLSON, 2775 SHADYWOOD ROAD - VARIANCE -
RESOLUTION #3610
Jabbour moved, Goetten seconded, to adopt Resolution #3610 granting a hardcover
variance to George Olson of 2775 Shadywood Road for the construction of an addition
to the existing residence. Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( #4) #2049 CHIC DWIGHT/FRED GUTTORMSON, 1220 TONKAWA ROAD -
VARIANCE - RESOLUTION #3611
The applicants were present.
Gaffron reported that the application is for a request for hardcover and lakeshore setback •
variances for a number of projects. The applicants would like to replace the existing deck
on the lakeshore side of the residence, build a screened porch below the deck area,
excavate to the south side of the residence for a walkout door, and construct low boulder
walls, all of which is in the 0-75' zone. The current setback to the lake is 42' from the
residence and 34' from the deck.
During Planning Commission review of August 21, 1995, the applicant received a partial
recommendation for approval of a screened porch under the deck and deck replacement
and stairs. The approval was based on the deck not extending past the south wall of the
residence. Excavation to the south side wall and retaining walls to allow a window to
become a doorway was recommended. The Planning Commission did not recommend
the installation of the low boulder walls between the deck and shoreline as there was no
justification or hardship shown. The approval was based on the condition that the small
patio below the deck be removed, as well as the small accessory building on the southeast
section of the property. The old gravel driveway was recommended to be top dressed
and revegetated with full grass. The applicant was also asked to remove the deck by the
lake. Gatrron also noted that the DNR recommended denial of the deck and screened
porch based on the fact that the property is non - conforming.
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(#4 - 42049 Chic Dwight/Fred Guttormson - Continued)
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Gaffron said Staff does not totally agree with the recommendation of the Planning
Commission as it is felt the new screen porch located so near the shoreline would only
increase the bulk structure of the property within 75' of the shore. Staff is also concerned
that the approval of the excavation to create a walkout would possibly be precedent
setting.
Callahan asked the applicant if he had reviewed and approved the recommendation made.
Guttormson said the main reason the property was purchased was because of the deck by
the lake. He noted it is located near the end of the point and is partially hidden from
view. It is his main concern that this Lakeshore deck remain. Guttormson said he was
willing to eliminate the gravel road, had no problem with changing the stairs from the
front to the back of the deck, would remove the small shed, although it is not very visible,
and noted that the 10'x10' shed had already been removed, as well as the center section of
the driveway, which was sodded. He is willing to proceed with the recommendations if
the Lakeshore deck can remain. The applicant said it was their intention to perform
upkeep on the property. The rip rap has been found to be eroding and needs to be
reconstructed in order to save trees.
Chic Dwight commented that neighbors present at the Planning Commission meeting
were not given the opportunity to comment on the application. She said they were in
• favor of the proposed projects. Goetten responded that she also was present at the
meeting and felt their inability to speak was unintentional, an oversight, and apologized
for the applicant's feeling of mistreatment.
Hurr asked Gaffron if the Staff had concerns with approval of the walkout. Gaffron said
the City has generally not approved major excavation in shoreline areas for properties
high in elevation when the purpose is only to produce a basement walkout. This
application, according to Gaff&on, was considered minor in comparison at 2 to 2 -1 /2' of
cut. He noted that the area was more than likely filled in when the house was built and is
not in its natural state but was probably flat and built up to accommodate the split -entry
style home.
The applicant said the area where they are asking for excavation for the walkout is on the
east end and receives very little light. Their purpose is to gain more light into the lower
level of the home with the walkout door.
Kelley asked and received confirmation that there is an entrance to the inside of the
residence from the screened porch.
Kelley asked if there were any hardships for the requested variances. The applicant said
their desire was to improve on the aesthetics of the home, to gain the extra light into the
lower level, and to repair the deck.
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(#4 - #2049 Chic Dwight/Fred Guttormson - Continued)
Jabbour pp
r inquired what the applicant would be allowed to repair on the deck if the •
recommendation was not approved, noting that the current railing does not meet code.
Gaffron said boards could be replaced without a variance. The question is at what level
of replacement a variance is needed. If a deck is totally removed, it would require a
variance to rebuild it. The City would likely approve a variance required to maintain the
safety of an existing deck.
Jabbour asked if the change from a window to a walkout door requires a variance.
Gaffron said the variance, as well as a conditional use permit, is required because of the
excavation.
Hurr said she was concerned with the deck's encroachment on the lakeshore. The
applicant noted that if the deck was asked to be removed, he would not proceed with the
other proposed projects. Hurr said, even if the applicant would not proceed with the
other improvements, she could not support the lakeshore deck remaining. Hurr was in
support of the other recommended projects; though, she did voice some concern of the
excavation.
Goetten said she was also concerned with setting a precedent by allowing excavation for
a walkout and would not support it. She emphasized the majority of the home being
within the 0 -75' zone. Goetten said she would support the screened porch and deck but •
not the deck at the lakeside.
Jabbour said he takes a more realistic approach to the application. He noted that the
deck is already there and would be rebuilt. The screened porch would be over and above
a patio, which is hardcover anyways. Jabbour saw the tradeoffs as substantial to the
goals of the City as the property has been extensively cleaned up. He saw the removal of
the rock areas, driveway to the lake, and two sheds as major contributions to hardcover
removal and 99% of what the City would like removed. Jabbour said he would not
support the boulder walls unless they were to stabilize the ground. He did support the
walkout.
Kelley asked about the condition of the deck at the lakeside. Gaffron said he has seen it
but not walked on it. The applicant said it was in good shape. Kelley asked Gaffron how
much repair could be done to this deck. Gaffron said structural repairs could be allowed
up to a value of 50% of the value at the time the deck became nonconforming, probably
in 1975. He was not aware if the deck was there at that time nor whether its value had
been established. The applicant said the house was built in 1970. Kelley asked if a
grading plan had been presented at that time. Gaffron said probably not. The applicant
said he has the original plans.
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Kelley said he would support the walkout, and supported the comments made by Jabbour
and the Planning Commission with the Lakeshore deck remaining if the driveway was
removed.
The applicant noted that 1000 s.f of hardcover has already been removed on the
property.
Hurr said she was not in favor of approval of keeping the lakeside deck. Kelley
commented on approval for a lakeside deck received on the Norenberg Park property.
Hurr responded that this was a different situation with the historic value of Norenberg.
Jabbour moved, Kelley seconded, to approve Application #2049 per the Planning
Commission recommendation with the exception that the lakeside deck remains on the
property. Vote: Ayes 2, Kelley, Jabbour; Nays 3, Callahan, Goetten, Hurr. Motion fails.
Callahan moved, Goetten seconded, to approve Application #2049, Resolution 93611,
per the Planning Commission recommendation. Vote: Ayes 4, Nays 1, Kelley.
( * #5) #2051 MIKE HILBELINK, 2760 WATERTOWN ROAD - ROAD NAME
APPROVAL
• Jabbour moved, Goetten seconded, to approve the name of Copper View Drive,
applicant's first choice for the private road within the Rosch Addition plat. Ayes 5, Nays
0.
( #6) #2059 RON RANIWAUTOGRAFS, INC., 2525 SHADYWOOD ROAD -
COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN REVIEW - RESOLUTION #3612
The applicant was not present.
Mabusth noted the amendments to the resolution by the City Attorney regarding the
intent of the City concerning rezoning of the adjacent residential property. The applicant
will be made aware of this minor change.
Jabbour moved, Goetten seconded, to approve Resolution 93612. Vote: Ayes 4, Nays
0, Abstain 1, Callahan, who was unaware of the proposal.
( * #7) #2060 TIM FEYO/KAREN FULLER, 4055 ELM STREET - VARIANCE
RENEWAL - RESOLUTION #3613
Jabbour moved, Goetten seconded, to adopt Resolution #3613 granting a lot area
variance to Tim Feyo and Karen Fuller -Feyo for property located at 4055 Elm Street.
is Ayes 5, Nays 0.
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( * #8) #2067 BRUCE AND TERRY CLARK, 625 OLD LONG LAKE ROAD - •
VARIANCE - RESOLUTION #3614
Jabbour moved, Goetten seconded, to adopt Resolution #3614 granting a side setback
variance to Bruce and Terry Clark of 625 Old Long Lake Road for construction of an
attached garage. Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( *#9) #2068 PAT AND KATHY SMIEJA, 4040 WATERTOWN ROAD -
VARIANCES - RESOLUTION #3615
Jabbour moved, Goetten seconded, to adopt Resolution 143615 granting approval of
setback variances for Pat and Kathy Smieja of 4040 Watertown Road for construction of
a 14'x16' three - season porch addition and 28'x36' living space/garage addition. Ayes 5,
Nays 0.
( * #10) #2069 CINDY AND STEVE HARRIS, 3850 WATERTOWN ROAD -
VARIANCE - RESOLUTION #3616
Jabbour moved, Goetten seconded, to adopt Resolution #3616 granting a variance to
Cindy and Steve Harris of 3850 Watertown Road for construction of a swimming pool
located nearer the front lot line than the principal residence structure. Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( #11) #2071 JAMES AND JOANN JUNDT, 1400 BRACKETTS POINT ROAD - •
AMENDED VARIANCE - RESOLUTION #3617
Scott Crawford of Kraus Anderson Construction represented the applicants.
Jabbour immediately suggested tabling the application.
Goetten commented that the applicants have not responded to the request from the
Planning Commission for an overall plan, which has caused the City to get bogged down
with numerous applications without a look at the big picture of the plans for the property.
Goetten said she concurs with the Planning Commission Chair in the need to persevere in
obtaining an overall plan.
Kelley suggested denying the application.
Callahan asked Crawford the reason for not having received a plan from the Jundts.
Crawford said it was his understanding that all work for the overall structure has been
submitted. He had thought the variance application was complete and then found out
differently. Hurr said it was not only this structure that has been addressed. Crawford
said he was unaware of any further requests and has only responded per instructions.
Callahan said it was not the number of variances, per se, but the project has been difficult
to follow, and was concerned with losing sight of the overall plan. •
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( #1 i - #2071 James and Joann Jundt - Continued)
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Crawford said his company was only asked to construct, not design, the project. It is his
opinion that this is the tail end of the projects for the property.
Hurr noted the number of after- the -fact applications.
Mabusth said Staff had asked Kraus Anderson for a comprehensive plan but have only
received plans in pieces, such as for the greenhouse, the tuckpointing, the expansion, etc.
No floor plans have ever been seen by Staff.
Jabbour said the Kraus Anderson representative, in the company of the Jundt son, was
asked two meetings ago for an overall plan. The Council then requested the removal of a
small portion of the driveway. He is concerned that with bits and pieces of a plan, it
makes the Council look unreasonable in their requests.
Kelley asked if the City could ask the applicants to appear before the Council themselves
with their application.
Callahan suggested tabling the application until the overall plan, before and after, has
been seen prior to proceeding with this application.
• Hun moved, Goetten seconded, to table the application until the overall plan is presented
and confirmation received that the driveway portion was removed.
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Callahan received confirmation from Mabusth that the driveway portion had been
removed.
Vote: Ayes 4, Nays 1, Kelley, who felt this application could be approved with the
understanding that no further applications would be considered without an overall plan.
Crawford said he was concerned with losing the ability to replace the trees if the
application was tabled due to upcoming winter weather. Mabusth said Staff could work
out the tree removal and planting issue through a permit. Gaffron noted that the plan
calls for the removal of a 36" elm to be replaced with two 4 -1/2" maples. Callahan
questioned how Staff could approve the tree removal yet it was part of the resolution.
Mabusth clarified that the tree removal and replanting matters are resolved under a Staff
issued permit and that Staff needed Council's approval for the excavation. Crawford said
the replanting of the trees would only take a couple of days. The ehn tree, itself, has
already been removed.
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( #I l - 92071 James and Joann Jundt - Continued)
Jabbour suggested the variance be given provided no building permit issued until the
plans were received by Staff The other Council members concurred with this
suggestion. Council discussed this option. Hurr advised that the final occupancy cannot
be held up for the variance. Kelley questioned whether an application could be denied
based on future work, and whether this was a legitimate reason to deny an application.
Hurr then suggested tabling for additional information. Callahan believed it was
reasonable to ask for the total project plan until a decision was made on this application.
The information would relate to the finishing up of the project as a number of issues have
been completed recently. The variance approval, according to Callahan, could be
contingent upon receiving the plan by a certain date. Kelley questioned whether the plan
would be for the entire house and accessory structure or the accessory structure alone.
Callahan said the plan should be for the entire site.
Callahan moved, Jabbour seconded, to reconsider tabling the application. Vote: Ayes 5,
Nays 0.
Gaffron reviewed the application. The proposal is for excavation partially in the 0 -75'
zone in order to waterproof a tunnel in the hillside. The 36" elm tree has already been
removed. The City was made aware of the tree removal and asked the project be
stopped. The variance was then applied for by the applicant. The proposal to excavate
the tunnel for waterproofing will replace the soil to existing grade. The proposal calls for •
mitigation for the removed tree with two new trees.
Gafron said the packet includes a letter from Ostvig Tree Co., in which the arborist
stated the elm tree was in a poor condition. A healthy tree would not have survived the
excavation either. Jabbour responded that if the Council had the opportunity to review
the application, they might have chosen the tree over the waterproofing.
Crawford said when the repair of the retaining wall was taking place, it was felt the tree
and roots caused the deterioration to the walls and removed the tree based on that
assumption. Hurr said, and Crawford concurred, that no discussion was had regarding
the excavating and the tree. Mabusth said the retaining wall at entrance to tunnel was
reviewed under a previous variance/conditional use permit application dealing with
structural improvements to greenhouse.
Hurr said she was concerned with the comparison of replacing a 36" elm with only two
4" maples. This did not seem like a reasonable two- for -one replacement. Mabusth said
the building staff has not reviewed the tree replacement.
Jabbour said the variance application granted permission for the retaining wails only. It
was possible that the Council would have required the tunnel to be removed. He voiced
concern that the applicant was only succeeding with each project because only a little
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( #11 - #2071 James and Joann Jundt - Continued)
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Hurr moved to table the application. She asked what would be accomplished by seeing
the plan. Hurr is concerned that replacement with only 9" of trees is not what would be
required of other applicants. Mabusth said Staff does not have a set pattern established
for tree replacement. The building inspector makes the decision. There is no standard in
the code for tree replacement.
Gaffron commented that it was not a tree -for -tree replacement. Zoning staff does not
review the tree removal permits. Gaffron said no input was received from the building
inspector on this application. Gaffron asked for additional direction from the Council.
Callahan questioned why additional direction would be needed if the issue had not yet
been reviewed. Gaffron said it was often difficult in an after - the -fact request to decide
what is appropriate. He was concerned with tree survival and density if inch- for -inch was
the criteria used. It was noted that a one- for -one tree replacement was done on a project
on Stubbs Bay.
Callahan noted that the Planning Commission felt the two maples for one elm was
reasonable. Hurr said she did not concur.
Kelley asked who had done the drawing. Gaffron said the applicant. Kelley said
decisions might be different when they involve the 0 -75' zone.
• Jabbour moved, Callahan seconded, to approve the variance providing tree replacement is
of three 4-1/2" trees, and no building permit issued prior to full comprehensive plan
received by Staff including what has been completed and future projects shown. Callahan
asked if the motion could be contingent on the plan in hand by a certain date, which was
decided to be Friday, October 13.
Hurr asked what would happen if the plans were not satisfactory. Callahan said the idea
was to get a general scheme of the property. Mabusth said the plan could be reviewed.
Kelley was concerned that this was opening a pandora's box and questioned whether the
plans would be of issues not requiring a variance.
Gaffron asked for clarification that the approval was based on not issuing the
waterproofing permit until the plan was received and in hand by October 13.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( 412) #2072 GRAYDON K. NEWMAN, 38., 1655 BOHNS POINT ROAD -
VARIANCE /CUP - RESOLUTION #3618
• The applicant had representation.
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( 912 - #2072 Graydon Newman, Jr. - Continued) •
Gaffron reported that the request was for hardcover and lakeshore variance for land
alteration in the 0 -75' zone. Reconfiguring of the access is involved as well as a walkway
and shoreline improvements. The existing platform, which extends into the lake and on
the shore, encroaches the neighbors property. The proposal is to remove the deck, use
the existing concrete stairs, and move the dock to new dock access. Additionally, the rip
rap height would be increased to a height 6 -12" ahove the terraced area above the high
water level mark, which is made of patio blocks. Sand is to be placed between the higher
rip rap and the existing retaining walls with beach and native plantings. Boulders are
proposed to provide additional stability for the existing retaining walls.
Gaffron reported that the Planning Commission approved the application with the
condition that the 5' width of walkway be reduced to 4', the deck be removed, but
approved the sand above the blocks to add stability. The cement blocks were allowed to
stay in place to potentially reduce the amount of erosion caused by wave action.
Jabbour said a permit could have been issued to rip rap straight up. Gaffron noted the
City Engineer looked at the area and recommended the paving block be removed.
Cook said he saw the blocks as just more hardcover and serving no function.
Goetten asked Cook if the patio blocks were not needed to accomplish what the •
applicant wished to do to eliminate the wave action erosion. Cook said no, adding that
the rip rap is designed to take care of erosion problems.
Jabbour commented if the patio block is removed, there would be a need to carry the rip
rap further up to serve as a buffer zone. Cook said this would have no effect. If the rip
rap fails, then the patio blocks would also go.
The applicant's representative, Dale Gustafson, said there were two issues. His client did
not know the dock was encroaching the neighbor's property. The dock in the lake was
non - conforming, and the applicant rearranged the dock to gain conformity and connect it
to the walkway. He felt it was sensible to go to the existing walkway that going straight
up. Secondly, the rip rap was already in place and would function well even if higher.
When the waves come in, until the vegetation has grown, something needs to be done to
hold it in place.
Kelley moved, Goetten seconded, to approve Resolution 93618 per the Planning
Commission recommendations with the extraction of the patio blocks.
Jabbour noted that the proposal was for a 5' dock but received confirmation from
Gustafson that 4' was satisfactory.
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( #12 - #2072 Graydon Newman, Jr. - Continued)
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Hurr said the property consists of seven parcels and requested the combination of the
seven into one tax statement. Gaff Ton said this could be required if it is connected to the
variance request. Jabbour commented that the connection is with the ordinance requiring
any accessory structure to be on the principal structure lot.
Kelley amended the motion to combine the lot containing the dock with the principal
structure lot.
Goetten asked what the zoning was for the area. After hearing the zoning was LRIB,
Goetten asked that all of the lots be combined.
Kelley asked for the opinion of the City Attorney. Barrett said the decision is based on
what would compel the combination. The combination of the lot with the dock and the
principal structure showed a connection, but there was no connection for the remainder
of the lots to be combined.
Hurr asked Staff to request of the applicant that all of the lots be combined.
The motion was amended with approval per the Planning Commission recommendations
and modified with the removal of the paving blocks and combination of the parcels
• containing the dock and the principal structure. Jabbour seconded.
Vote: Ayes 3, Jabbour, Kelley, Callahan; Nays 2, Goetten, Hurr. Goetten said she was
for the application but would like to see all of the parcels combined.
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Hurr asked that Staff convey to applicant that since two lots must be combined that they
combine all of the lots. The Council did not want to hold up the application but
requested that a total combination be done.
The representative said he would convey the information but felt the combinatin
"muddied the waters" and only wished to correct a non - conformity. Jabbour responded
that the law prohibits a dock on any land without a principal structure, and no variance
could be granted without the combination performed.
Hurr noted that there was no cost involved in lot combinations.
( #13) #2073 WILLIAM AND SUSAN DUNKLEY, 2709 WALTERS PORT LANE -
VARIANCESICUP - RESOLUTION #3619
Gaffron noted the presence of the applicant's representatives.
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( #13 - #2073 William and Susan Dunkley - Continued) •
Gaffron reported that the application is for a request for a number of variances for three
projects on the Lakeshore property with a channel into Walters Port lagoon. The
application is for repair to the driveway, retaining walls, front stoop, as well as other
retaining walls. The wood retaining walls along the lakeshore would be replaced as well
as the retaining walls along the garage. The front entry is proposed to assist in alleviating
water problems. A IO'x33' three - season porch and 10'x16' deck is proposed on the
lakeside of the residence.
The Planning Commission reviewed the application and recommended partial approval
based on replacing the existing wooden retaining walls with modular block retaining
walls. The wood retaining walls would have to be removed per the Engineer's
recommendation. Gaffron said applicants had sent a letter requesting that a portion of
the wood walls be allowed to remain in place since removal would create a stability
problem. The front entry was noted to be intended to correct the water problem. The
Planning Commission denied the porch and deck as there was no hardship shown and
because of the location so near the Lakeshore within the 0 -75' zone. It was further
recommended that hardcover of rock with fabric and plastic be removed. There were a
few areas along the house and adjacent to the walkway which would remain.
Gaffron said Staff concurred with the Planning Commission recommendations. He noted
that the porch and deck would have increased the lot coverage by structures from 15.1% .
to over 16 %. While attempting to calculate the hardcover, it was found that some areas
were not defined. Staff recommended an as -built survey be completed to include the
driveway that was recently rebuilt. Based on the initial survey, the new driveway
apparently adds about 150 s.f of hardcover. The net would not change considerably with
the removal of the rock areas.
Goetten asked if the application was made before or after the project begun. Gaffron
said the driveway had been started. He told the entryway contractor it would be
inappropriate to pour the concrete until the Planning Commission could review the plan.
The concrete was poured without regard for this advisory.
Hun suggested that the as -built survey be completed prior to any permit being issued.
The applicant's landscaping representative commented that it was their attempt to save a
large amount of trees and have found it difficult to grow grass in the back corner area.
There is a large amount of hostas and other greens. The rock on the side of the house to
the lake will be replaced with grass. Hostas and other greenery will be placed on the
north side of the house as grass is difficult to grow in this area.
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( #13 - 42073 William and Susan Dunkley - Continued)
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The representative noted that there was no problem with removal of the wood retaining
walls on the back side but was concerned with the area where the brick pavers are
located. He believed once the top timbers are gone, the dirt would be disturbed and
would lose some soil. He was concerned with getting the patio block back into the same
place. He noted that the front entry addition would eliminate water pouring into the
basement.
Gaffron said the applicant, in a letter received on October 4, asked if no screened porch
was approved, if they could place a sunroom over the existing deck on the south end.
Gaffron said part of the problem was that the deck was located 6 -T from the side lot line
where 10' is required. It also is in the 0 -75' zone and would add to the bulk of structure
on the property. There would be no change in the hardcover. The deck is currently 34'
above grade with a railing.
Hurr asked if there was any condition to when the original deck was built that it not be
screened in. Gaffron said he was not aware of any. Goetten asked if this was to be part
of this proposal. Gaffron said it was an addition to it.
Jabbour asked if the project was to be done in the spring. The representative said the
applicant would like to complete the front entry this fall.
• It was noted that the property has a 3 -car garage.
Kelley moved, Hurr seconded, to approve Resolution #3619 per the Planning
Commission recommendation but allowing the wood retaining wall to be left in replace in
area designated.
It was noted that there was also a survey requirement in Staff s recommendation.
Jabbour said he was concerned with where the wood retaining walls would remain.
Kelley said he was in favor of the walls partially remaining if it met with the Engineer's
approval.
Condition 1 on page 4, exhibit A, stipulates where the wood retaining walls would
remain.
The representative confirmed that hostas and other greenery could be used in the areas
where rock is eliminated.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
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( #14) GARY DESANTIS, SAILORS WORLD MARINA AND BOAT CLUB, 1955 •
SHORELINE DRIVE - LANDSCAPE PLAN DEADLINE
Mabusth reported that a letter was provided by DeSantis regarding why the landscaping
was not completed by the September 15 deadline. DeSantis was present to answer any
questions.
Hurr asked when the landscaping was initially set for completion. Mabusth said a year
was given from the time the permit was issued in 1992. The first expiration date was
1993. Hurr felt this was an excessive amount of extended time and did not recommend
any further extension. She noted she had read the letter.
DeSantis said he has been served a tremendous hardship with paying the $40,000 cost for
soil clean up and would have otherwise completed the landscaping. He noted the
neighbor's property has contributed to the contamination problem. He said there is now
documentation that the gas station would be mitigating the contamination. The
documentation confirms that the load moves in his direction and has more than likely
affected his property. The document is in a draft form at this time.
Hurr asked what would be a reasonable date for completion of the landscaping. DeSantis
said the report by the MCPA is being reviewed now and was told would take about 2
months to complete. If it was determined that there was no further leaking, the
landscaping could be installed. If monitoring wells were required, DeSantis said he •
would then need the funds to install both the wells and the landscaping
Goetten said she understood there were extenuating circumstances but could not
understand why the MPCA was not in contact with the other property owner. It was
noted that the property is in foreclosure. Jabbour said it was his understanding from the
owner that he was going to abandon the property. This would result in no one being
responsible for the contamination.
Hurr asked DeSantis if he was eligible for super fund reimbursement. DeSantis said there
was a possibility of up to 90% reimbursement.
Hurr asked if the contamination problem was present in 1993. DeSantis said he was
unsure of the order of the delay. It had been his plan to meet the last deadline of
September 15, 1995 and has been frustrated with the process and lack of assistance.
DeSantis was asked how the landscaping would be affected. He indicated the geoprobes
to monitor the soil could possibly disturb any landscaping. It was a 9 -point process with
3 by the road, 3 in the mid section, and 3 by the seawall. DeSantis said he could stagger
the landscaping and work around the probes but finds it to be a financial drain.
Callahan asked DeSantis if the delay now was due to cost or damage to landscaping.
DeSantis said it would be both. •
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( 414 - Gary DeSantis - Landscape Deadline - Continued)
Jabbour noted that DeSantis is responsible for supplying the data to the MPCA.
Kelley commended DeSantis on his willingness to assist the process. He noted the City
had a letter of credit on hand and could complete the landscaping but would create a
financial hardship. Kelley said he would request to give the applicant the benefit of
extending the deadline to spring of 1996. The situation could then be reviewed.
Goetten moved, Hun seconded, to extend the landscape deadline to May 15, 1996, when
a status report would be required. Ayes 4, Nays 0, Abstain 1, Jabbour.
MAYOR/COUNCIL REPORT
Callahan asked Moorse if the City had indicated the Council's discomfort with the
decision to install a semaphore at the intersection of Wayzata Boulevard and Highway
12. Moorse said a letter was sent to Mn/DOT. Callahan asked if the City would get an
official request from the City of Wayzata for the semaphore. Moorse said it was not his
impression that this would happen. Callahan said the mayor of Wayzata indicated he was
willing to discuss the issue with the Council. Callahan asked what stand the City of Long
Lake was taking regarding the semaphore. Moorse said they were staying neutral
regarding the issue. Callahan commented that the mayor of Long Lake had informed him
• he was opposed to the stoplight as it was a matter of safety.
Callahan asked Staff about a letter in the packet from Mr. Gustafson regarding erosion
and drainage on North Shore Drive near the channel. Gerhardson said Hennepin County
was responding to and working with Gustafson. Gerhardson said recent work being
done upstream in the area was being investigated to see if the work created changes to
the drainage. Gustafson is aware that the City is involved in investigating the matter as
well as the County.
Callahan asked if the information passed on regarding CoRd 15 at Orono Orchard and
Wayzata Boulevard was an action item. Moorse said information was received from the
County at the public information meeting regarding the Bracketts Point issue. It was
found that the proposed right -of -way acquisition costs, although still expensive, were
reduced significantly. Moorse asked the Council for their recommendation on the right -
of -way costs and whether the Council feels the County should move ahead with
additional plans. The County representative was asked for his feedback.
Bruce Polaczyk, along with Jim Grube, were present. Polaczyk said since the last
meeting, he had met with the District State Aid Engineer regarding whether the rural
section could be downgraded to a suburban design to eliminate the need for some of the
right -of -way easements. Through a field review, it was decided that the area should be
maintained as a rural design as it laid in a marshy area not impacting surrounding
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(Mayor /Council Report - Continued)
k h also had a meeting with the Right-of-Way Manager and conducted a •
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field tour to revisit the right -of -way costs. The right -of -way cost estimate has been
reduced from $100,000 to approximately $65,000 to $70,000. This does not include any
credit for the pond The reduction is due to the segment along the railroad track, which
is felt to be able to be acquired thru a clear zone easement.
Callahan asked if the Council agreed upon the range for the right -of -way costs, what step
would be taken next. Moorse said it would be recommended to the County to do the
next step in the design work.
Polaczyk said the Council adopted the resolution for the layout in May of 1995. The
County would like the Council to endorse the right -of -way costs and direct the County to
move forward with a detailed design.
Callahan noted that the costs were two to three times the amount the City has budgeted
for the right -of -way easements.
Jabbour said the resolution regarding the road project was contingent on the right -of -way
costs not being excessive. The Council needs to determine if the projected costs are
excessive.
Kelley asked if the City would receive money for the pond area acquisition. Jabbour said •
the City would continue to own the property but it would be used as a pond and be a
mitigation area.
Polaczyk said he would meet with Gerhardson and the environmentalist to determine if
the area can be used for wetland mitigation. Any roadway affecting wetlands has to be
mitigated according to law. Polaczyk said he was unsure how much wetland would be
impacted, and it would be the next step to determine this.
Callahan asked if the Council agreed to a certain right -of -way cost ceiling, would the
County be comfortable with moving ahead. Polaczyk said he was not comfortable with
lowering the cost for right -of -way any further as it is felt the projected costs have already
been fine tuned.
Jabbour asked Polaczyk if the pond area was to be taken into consideration. Polaczyk
said he was not well versed on this, and another field tour would be required. It was
questioned how much of the land could be converted to wetland since it was marshy to
begin with. Kelley asked who would make the determination and would like to hold to
the $30,000 cost.
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(Mayor /Council Report - Continued)
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Jim Grube said $30,000 in the overall scheme of a 2 million dollar project is small but
understands it is a large amount for the City. He is not willing to give up the $30,000
from the City at this time. Grube said he believes the project is needed and the road is in
bad shape. He said it was reasonable to look at areas proposed for wetland mitigation.
Jabbour said he would like to pass a resolution tonight regarding the issue with a ceiling
on the dollar amount for the right -of -way easements. He noted the rise in the cost from
the initial projection to the final cost for the stoplight at Willow Drive and Hwy 12.
Grube said this was an important project. He would like to see what can be provided but
could not provide a ceiling price.
Callahan noted what was missing is a general range for the value of the pond from both
the City and the County. He inquired if the Council Members had a range in mind.
Hurr said it would be necessary to obtain the facts first.
Callahan asked the County to obtain the offsetting figure for the pond before agreeing
on the cost.
• Jabbour asked Polaczyk if he was comfortable with the $65,000- $70,000 range for the
right -of -way costs. Polaczyk said the cost was derived by the right -of -way manager, and
the correctness of the amount is based on his skill.
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Callahan asked that the information be provided for the next Council meeting.
ENGINEER REPORT
(" #15) REQUEST FOR PAYMENT #1 - WILLOW DRIVE STREET
IMPROVEMENTS
Jabbour moved, Goetten seconded, to approve payment 91 for the Willow Drive street
improvements to Buffalo Bituminous in the amount of $56,948.23. Ayes 5, Nays 0.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
( #16) APPOINTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER
Moorse reported that this request was to replace a Community Service Officer with the
hiring of a past intern who was familiar with the operations of the City. The new CSO
would be hired at a rate of $7.10 per hour, and the pay of the current CSO would be
increased to that rate also.
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( #16 - Appointment of Community Service Officer - Continued)
proposed new CSO would be replacing Chris •
Goetten asked if Coney Forniok, the eP g
Fisher, or if Fisher would continue to work in that capacity. Moorse clarified that the
City is in need of two CSOs, and Fisher would remain in his current position. Forniok
would be replacing another person.
Hurr asked how many people had applied. Moorse said he did not know the exact
number but confirmed that the position was advertised in both the Star Tribune and the
local paper. Hurr was also informed that Moorse was comfortable with the selection
process. Kelley had also voiced his concern with the process. Moorse said the selection
is a 2 -step interviewing process.
Callahan said he did not see the reason for the Council to be concerned with the hiring
and selection if the Staff was satisified with the results. Moorse said it was brought to
the Council as all hiring is approved by the Council per the City ordinance.
Hurr moved, Goetten seconded, to approve the hiring of Correy Forniok at $7.10 per
hour effective September 25, 1995, and the increase of pay for Chris Fisher from $6.44 to
$7.10 per hour effective September 25, 1995. Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
Callahan asked Moorse to review the need for the administrative detail to go through the
Council. •
( #17) BRACKETTS POINT CURVE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT
Callahan said the public was given the opportunity to comment on the proposed
improvements of Bracketts Point Curve at the public information meeting and would
reserve this item for discussion by Council only.
Hurr noted the memo from Moorse on the number of accidents that have occurred in this
location. Between 1990 and 1995, 18 accidents have occurred ranging from 2 to 5 per
year with one personal injury.
Goetten commented on the receipt of a letter from a former mayor, Mary Butler, on this
issue, who was not in attendance at the meeting. Callahan read the letter into the
minutes. The letter recognized the need for the curve on the road to be straightened out,
a need for a bigger buffer, a note of the higher traffic levels, and asked Council to
upgrade the road.
Callahan said he was unconvinced of the safety issue requiring the improvement.
Callahan noted that the parkway system causes traffic to slow down and remain slowed
down. He said the comments from the minutes from the information meeting and the
public meeting two years ago agree with his opinion. Callahan said he was opposed to
the improvement and approves the road being paved over only. •
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( #17 - Bracketts Point Curve Road Improvement - Continued)
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Huff moved, Jabbour seconded, to direct the County to proceed with the next stage of
project design, keeping the roadway within the right -of -way. The Indian Mounds and
tree preservation were to be taken into consideration. Callahan asked that costs be
developed for the temporary right -of -way easements. Vote: Ayes 3, Huff, Jabbour,
Goetten; Nays 2, Kelley, Callahan.
Susan Lenny, 1510 Green Trees asked what the next step would be in the process. She
was informed that the County would determine project costs and easements and present a
final design. The County would contact any property owners regarding temporary
construction easements. The City Attorney said if she and the County could not agree on
a price for the temporary easement, the property in question could be condemned.
Callahan noted that there would be another public hearing dealing with the final costs and
layouts, which will be within the current right -of -way.
Moorse said Lenny would be notified of the next time this item will be considered by the
City Council.
( #18) ESTABLISH DATE FOR ASSESSMENT HEARING FOR WILLOW
DRIVE Il"ROVEMENTS
0 The assessment hearing date was set for November 27, 1995, at 6:45 p.m..
The hearing was noted to affect two property owners. The date was set to enable time to
obtain final costs. It was further noted that 4 Council members would be needed to
attend. Goetten will be absent.
( #19) ICE RINK AT ANTOINE PLAYGROUND
Moorse reported that the Park Commission has been looking at the ice rink usage and
maintenance. Antoine and Hackberry Parks were identified as rinks with low usage.
Letters were sent to the neighbors asking if they agreed with the assessment made by the
Park Commission. A large number of the residents around Hackberry Park responded
and were in favor of maintaining the rink. A low response was received from the
neighbors of Antoine Park.
Moorse said the Park Commission has recommended that no rink be maintained at
Antoine. This would benefit Staff as no maintenance, flooding, or snow removal of the
rink would be needed.
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( #19 - Ice Rink at Antoine Playground - Continued)
Moorse questioned whether there was a need to send another letter to the neighborhood
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regarding the recommendation. Goetten asked what the initial letter said. Gerhardson
said the original letter informed the residents that the rink had been monitored and
appeared to be used infrequently. They were informed that the City was considering not
maintaining the rink. Gerhardson added that the City does not wish to see rinks on the
lake and is concerned with safety with lake rinks. Hurr said she was in attendance at the
Park Commission meeting and saw no reason to send another letter. Jabbour said he
knew a couple of the neighbors would be disappointed but noted the difficulty in
maintaining rinks.
Gerhardson said the quality of ice at the City rinks were concentrated on last year and
produced quality ice. It was found to require 110 hours per rink per year to maintain the
rinks.
Callahan moved, Hurr seconded, to approve the closure of the ice rink at Antoine Park.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
City Attorney Barrett had no report.
( * #20) LICENSES •
Jabbour moved, Goetten seconded, to approve the following licenses: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
Home Occupation License Charles and Ann Anderson
Annual Review 1295 Loma Linda Avenue
Home Occupation License John Hallson
Initial Review 120 Golden View Drive
( * #21) BILLS
Jabbour moved, Goetten seconded, to approve payment of the All Funds Account. Ayes
5, Nays 0.
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• ADJOURNMENT
Callahan moved, Jabbour seconded, to adjourn at 9:50 p.m. Ayes 5, Nays 0.
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ward J. Calla)xn, Jr., Mayor