HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-26-1990 Council MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING
HELD MARCH 26, 1990
ATTENDANCE 7:00 P.M.
-The Council met on the above date with the following members
present: Mayor Grabek, Councilmembers Goetten, Callahan and
Peterson. Councilmember Nettles was absent. The following
represented the City staff: Acting City Administrator Gerhardson,
Assistant Planning and Zoning Administrator Gaffron, City
Attorney Barrett, City Engineer Cook, Police Chief Kilbo and City
Recorder Scheffler.
YEAR XVI C.D.B.G. FUNDS
PROPOSED USE
PUBLIC HEARING 7:00 P.M. TO 7:02 P.M.
The Affidavit of Publication was duly noted.
Acting City Administrator Gerhardson stated that the purpose
of this Public Hearing is to obtain citizen input. This year
Orono will receive approximately $23,000.00.
There were no public comments regarding this matter and the
public hearing was closed.
Councilmember Goetten informed those in attendance how the
funds are proposed to be disbursed. She said that in addition to
the $20,000.00 for housing redevelopment, the City will grant
• $1,000.00 each for Westonka Intervention, Westonka Community
Action and Interfaith Outreach.
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Peterson, to adopt Resolution #2783 allocating Year
XVI Community Development Block Grant funds as that Resolution
indicates. Gerhardson requested that the motion include that
those organizations proposed to receive funding submit a written
statement as to the intended use of the funds. Gerhardson said
that HUD requires the written statement as part of the approval
process. Goetten amended her motion to reflect Gerhardson's
request, Peterson seconded. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion
passed.
PARK DEDICATION FEE ORDINANCE
PUBLIC HEARING 7:10 P.M. TO 7:21 P.M.
The Affidavit of Publication was duly noted.
Gerhardson explained that the Park Commission has prepared
and is presenting an Ordinance to amend the Park Dedication fees
due to the fact that the existing fees collected are inadequate.
Park Commission Representative Flint listed the conclusions
the Park Commission had determined after two years of studying
the Park Dedication fee Ordinance:
. 1) The current Park Dedication fee schedule is woefully
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inadequate. •
2) The park program has immediate needs for funds that
would be generated from raising the fee. That would be to
undertake a comprehensive planning process and to build a
trail system.
3) There is a window of opportunity to raise the
appropriate funds by placing the new schedule in effect as
soon as possible because the development that is likely to
occur will occur within the next several years. If there is
any further delay the needed funds will not raised.
4) The fee schedule should be based on pre- development fair
market value of the land.
5) The Park Dedication Fee should be established at 8% of
the fair market value of the land.
Marla Meredith, 3685 Watertown Road, Linda Whitman, 3620
Eileen Street, and Scott Stein, 3575 Christine Drive, indicated
that they supported the Ordinance Amendment.
Councilmember Callahan asked the Park Commission why they
recommend that the Park fee be based on 8% of fair market value
rather than an established average that would be set for each of •
the various lot sizes within Orono.
Flint replied, "We favored the use of the fair market value
because it seems to be common among other cities. We have talked
with Orono's Assessor and he sees no problem in providing a fair
market value. Taking an average does not comply with the intent
of the Park fee which should be relative to the value of the
land. The use of that method would not be fair in that it would
not consider the variation for example in the cost of a 2-
acre lakeshore lot and a 2 -acre inland lot. The fair market
value method would automatically reflect the rate of inflation.
Mr. Tom Owens, an Attorney, expressed the concerns of his
client, Robert White who resides at 4245 Bayside Road. Mr. White
is in the process of gifting a portion of his property to his son
and will now be subjected to this increase in the Park Dedication
fee. Mr. Owens questioned whether there would be any further
public hearings or meetings prior to adoption of the amendment.
Gerhardson replied that this public hearing could be
continued if the Council chose to table this matter for this
evening.
Mr. Owens said, "The imposition of a mature community such
as Orono amending this Ordinance at this point, puts the burden
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of the park system on those with considerable acreage yet to be
subdivided."
There were no further comments from the public and Mayor
Grabek closed the public hearing.
In response to Mr. Owen's comments, Mayor Grabek said, "I
don't think that we should put aside all of the Park Commission's
hard work over the past two years because of one incident and
objection. We have not heard any opposition from other Orono
residents. The Park Commission has done an admirable job. We
have delayed action on this long enough."
Gaffron asked at what stage of development would a parcel of
land be assessed for Park Dedication fee. Gaffron also asked the
effective date of the Ordinance and how the Council will address
those applications for subdivision that have already been
received by the City.
Councilmember Callahan suggested that applications now in
the process of review by the City would not be affected by the
Ordinance Amendment. Callahan believed that an effective date of
May 1, 1990 to be appropriate and that the property value be
assessed as of the time that preliminary subdivision approval is
given.
• Councilmember Goetten stated that she agreed with
Councilmember Callahan. Goetten indicated that this is an
appropriate time to implement this change and that she felt
comfortable doing so.
Councilmember Peterson concurred with Callahan and Goetten
and had wished that this had been done long ago. Peterson
thanked the Park Commission for their efforts in researching and
preparing this Ordinance Amendment.
It was moved by Councilmember Callahan, seconded by
Councilmember Peterson, to adopt the Park Dedication fee
Ordinance amendment, with the clarification that it become
effective May 1, 1990, that applications for subdivision that
have been filed up to this point not be covered by the new
ordinance and that the assessed fair market value of a property
be based on its status as of the date of preliminary plat
approval. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
CONSENT AGENDA*
Councilmember Goetten requested that items #4 and #23 be
removed from the Consent Agenda.
It was requested by Acting City Administrator Gerhardson
that items #15 and #17 be removed from the Consent Agenda.
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It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember •
Peterson, to approve the Consent Agenda, with the exception of
items #4, #15, #17 and #23 which were removed and discussed in
the order appearing on the agenda. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0,
Motion passed.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilmember Goetten requested that the Minutes be amended
to reflect that she had hoped to have an opportunity to review
the Park Commission Minutes, rather than recommendation (last
sentence, page 2).
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Peterson, to approve the Minutes of the March 12,
1990 Regular Council Meeting. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion
passed.
PARR COMMISSION COMMENTS:
LITTLE LEAGUE /BEDERWOOD PARR
Mayor Grabek explained the procedure to be followed for
those who wished to make a presentation regarding this matter.
Mayor Grabek recognized Park Commission Chair, Phil Bradley.
Bradley explained that the 1980 Park Development Plan .
categorizes Bederwood Park as a neighborhood park designed to
serve more than the immediate neighborhood. A neighborhood park
calls for open fields and future ball diamonds. The next largest
neighborhood park is Hackberry which is classified to provide
open field soccer and play grounds. Bradley said that Hackberry
has two T -Ball fields that are heavily used. Casco Point Skating
Rink is the third largest neighborhood park. Bradley felt that
only Bederwood Park is available for general public activities.
Mr. Bradley stated that the Superintendent of Schools had
indicated that they could respond to a proposal from OBA to use
the undeveloped school property within 6 -12 months. The
Superintendent stated that they would actively pursue any
application made by OBA to use the existing site on the school
campus. Bradley said, "The Park Commission supports the idea of
organized sports as part of the Community picture. We support
the concept of neighborhood parks, but also have concern for
residential zoning and the potential to bring an incompatible use
into a neighborhood. This is the first time the Park Commission
has dealt with a controversy regarding the use of a park. We
urge the City to consider our request to give us an updated Park
Plan. In the interim, it would seem appropriate to consider a
short term usage of Bederwood Park for organized sports while
other options are pursued."
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Ms. Linda Whitman 3620 Eileen Street, representing the
neighborhood group known as Citizens for Park Planning, referred
to the documents that had been distributed to Council and staff.
Ms. Whitman stated that they have tried to work with the OBA to
reach a compromise on this issue. (Refer to the Citizens for
Park Planning presentation dated March 26, 1990) Ms. Whitman
noted that as of this evening they have raised $3,000 to assist
the OBA in developing the school site.
Mr. Rolland Berglund stated that he had been on the Park
Commission in 1974 when the negotiations were made to buy the
property which is now Bederwood Park. Mr. Berglund said that the
Larson family owned the property and refused to sell it due to
the impact that the park use would have on the neighborhood. Mr.
Berglund said that an agreement to buy the land was finally
reached based on a promise that there would be a quiet
neighborhood use of the park.
Mr. Clem Kroll, 60 South Stubbs Bay Road, has lived near
Bederwood Park over 20 years. Mr. Kroll said that there have
been significant demographic changes that have occurred to the
area. There are many new homes and young families with young
children. Mr. Kroll said, There is heavy usage of Bederwood Park
for many purposes. The additional use of Bederwood Park and the
Luce Line Trail has made parking space more necessary. We see 4-
• 10 cars parked in the lot from 4:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. If you add
the additional vehicles generated by softball games, the lot is
full and parking occurs on the west side of Stubbs Bay Road.
This is dangerous because there is a blind spot in that area and
there is a lot of traffic on Stubbs Bay Road."
Mr. Scott Stein, 3575 Christine Drive, provided the portion
of the presentation pertaining to the requirements a regulation
Little League baseball field must have. Mr. Stein asked for
clarification as to whether the concession building would be two
stories or one. He also asked if the field would be used for
tournament play.
Mr. Stein then provided a comparison of the various sites
available for Little League use. It is the recommendation of the
Citizens for Park Planning that the Orono School site would be
most suitable for this use. Mr. Stein stated that it would cost
$6,000.00 more to develop the School property and they have
already raised $3,000.00. Mr. Stein noted that they have
obtained a firm bid of $6,000.00 and if necessary they will work
to raise the additional $3,000.00. Mr. Stein said, "We all want
Little League, but we want it in the right part of the City."
Ms. Judy Brawn, 355 Stubbs Bay Road, indicated that
Bederwood Park should be maintained as a neighborhood park as it
• is classified. She too was concerned about the safety aspect of
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the additional park use and the traffic on Stubbs Bay Road. Ms. •
Brown was afraid that the OBA's use of Bederwood Park would not
be temporary.
Ms. Whitman presented the recommendations of the Citizens
for Park Planning which included a compromise should it not be
possible to develop the Orono School site in time for this
season.
Mr. Michael Hilbelink, a Representative of the OBA,
explained the events that led to the OBA's request to use
Bederwood Park. Mr. Hilbelink said that it has been possible for
the OBA to prolong the building of a regulation field by using
the facilities in other communities. This is no longer possible.
Mr. Hilbelink proposed the construction of a Little League field
at Bederwood Park that would be similar to the other 35 fields
within District I. The proposal calls for a fence around the
field, dugouts, concession stand, bleachers and a scoreboard.
In regard to the fence, Mr. Hilbelink read a letter from the
District I Administrator, Mr. John Eccles, regarding the need for
a fence around the field from a safety aspect.
Mr. Hilbelink said that the dugouts are provided for bats
and balls and protect and shield the players from the weather.
The bleachers will provide comfort for the spectators. •
Hilbelink indicated that the concession building plays a
critical role in the funding of the program. The money from
concessions pays for the umpires and maintenance of the field. He
said that the concession stand would be open only during game
times and would be supervised and operated by the parents.
Hilbelink said the site proposed for this use at the Orono
School is the low point in that area. It receives the drainage
from the entire campus and a manhole has been provided for that
purpose. Mr. Hilbelink said that additional work would have to
be done beyond that covered by the $6,000.00 quote from Mr.
Bendickson.
Mr. Hilbelink noted that the Citizens for Park Planning had
not mentioned the option of the Church Property this evening. He
assumed that site was no longer a possibility.
Hilbelink said that the Orono Primary School property would
not be practical. In order to make one regulation Little League
field, it would be necessary to displace two existing fields.
Hilbelink said that Bederwood Park would be the most
suitable site. He stated that the use would be temporary until
the dream of using the Orono School property becomes reality.
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Mr. Hilbelink added that he had an estimate of $20,000.00 to
$30,000.00 to get that site properly prepared.
Mr. Gary McPhearson, representing OBA, submitted the
petitions that had been received by OBA with 408 names supporting
the use of Bederwood. Mr. McPhearson read several letters that
had been received from Orono citizens supporting the upgrade of
Bederwood. (The letters were from Sylvia Stroup, Douglas Nash,
and Dave & Sherry Guimond.)
Ms. Arlene Undlin, Minneapolis, said, "I am interested in
this because my grandparents were the Larsons that farmed that
piece of land. The park was intended to be used exactly as
Rolland Berglund indicated. At the time the park was to be
developed, none of the neighbors were in favor of it even though
it would raise the value of their homes. You are in a
residential area and the park use should remain as is."
Ms. Judy Brown, 355 Stubbs Bay Road, said, "One issue in
this matter is that the OBA is requiring the park 5 nights a
week. That is a prime time for the residents to use the park."
Councilmember Goetten asked Mr. Hilbelink if it is necessary
for them to have the park 5 nights a week from 2:00 p.m. to dark.
• Mr. Hilbelink replied that they will need the park 4 nights
a week this year and 5 nights a week next year. As to the time
of day needed, Hilbelink stated that 3:30 to dark would be
acceptable. Mr. Hilbelink noted that the Soccer_ League has used
Bederwood the last couple of years. There were twice as many
games and consequently people and cars, yet the Park Commission
received no complaints. Hilbelink said that after the first week
in July, Little League will end. The only possible use they may
have for the field after that point would be practices by one
team if they advance to the All Stars.
Mr. John Lehmeyer, 320 Crestview, asked how much money the
OBA intended to invest into Bederwood Park to make this upgrade.
Mr. Hilbelink replied, "Approximately $15,000.00."
Mr. Lehmeyer suggested that it would be more prudent to use
that money and the $6,000.00 that will be raised by the neighbors
to upgrade the School property.
Ms. Linda Fleming, 680 Minnetonka Highland Lane, said that
safety should come first. She felt that the concession stand,
dugouts, and bleachers were not necessary, especially if this is
a temporary arrangement. She agreed with Mr. Lehmeyer.
• Mr. Rich Anderson, 3205 Crystal Bay Road, suggested that
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providing more parking may address many of the expressed concerns is
regarding safety.
Mr. Rolland Bergland stated that there would be no park if
the promise had not been made to the Larsons that the park use
would not be disruptive to the neighborhood.
Mr. John Meredith, 3685 Watertown Road, said, "At a meeting
of our two sides, Gary Larson indicated that he would be very
happy with the site at the Orono School if we had the money up
front to guarantee that it could be developed. He could get by
this summer and wait an additional year to have that site. Is
there City money available, $5,000.00 or $10,000.00 to help
develop the School Campus site ?"
Mayor Grabek replied that there may be money in the budget
for such an expenditure. However, he did not feel it would be
wise for the Council to do that. Grabek said the Council would
be directly supporting Little League Baseball, which would be
unfair to other organized sports.
Mr. Ed Brown, 355 Stubbs Bay Road, stated that it would be
necessary to improve the parking situation at Bederwood. There
would be no such need at the Orono School property. Brown did
not think that adequate information has been provided to
determine the actual cost of upgrading Bederwood. He said that •
water collects on the present field whenever there is a rain
storm and that it may be necessary to expend engineering costs as
part of the upgrade.
Ms. Sherokee Ilse, 3630 Eileen Street, urged the Council to
stay consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and Park Plan. Ms.
Ilse also wished to clarify that the Citizens for Park Planning
are not against Little League. Ms. Ilse added that she had
talked with Mr. Bendickson and he had informed her that the Orono
School site would be less expensive to upgrade than the Bederwood
site. Ms. Ilse stated that Mr. Bendickson had mentioned the
possible need for drain tile for the Bederwood site.
Mr. Hilbelink stated that Mr. Bendickson's bid for the
School site did not include $5,000.00 for sod or $3,000.00 for ag
lime. He said that he had talked to one grading contractor who
indicated that it would cost between $10,000.00 and $20,000.00 to
grade the site. Hilbelink also stated that using Bederwood Park
for a Little League field was consistent with the Comprehensive
Plan.
Ms. Whitman stated that the City's involvement to increase
the parking for Bederwood could be considered as support for the
OBA. She felt that the City's money would be better spent if it
were used to upgrade the School site.
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Ms. Terry Wood, 480 Park Avenue, felt that the "frills" of
the Little League field were necessary. She said, "My son has
been in Little League for 5 years and it means a lot to him when
he plays on a regulation field with dugouts."
Mr. Neil Beaumont, 3535 Christine Drive, reiterated Mr.
Lehmeyer's point regarding spending the available funds at the
School site rather than Bederwood. Mr. Beaumont felt that
allowing the OBA to use Bederwood Park would prohibit a majority
of residents from enjoying the park.
Councilmember Callahan summarized his understanding of the
OBA's proposal for Little League use of Bederwood. Callahan said
that he did not understand how the Minor League use of the field
correlated to the Major League use.
Mr. Hilbelink replied that the OBA would like to see the
improved field available for Minor League, Girl's Softball, T-
Ball, or whatever else would come along. He said, "We don't know
what is going to happen with the School property. We hope that
by 1993 or 1994 there will be a complex that we can play on.
Nonetheless, there is a dramatic shortage of fields available for
all ages. We hope this field will be available for that. It has
been available in the past; we have reserved it, and there has
• not been a problem."
Mr. McPhearson added that there would be no games after the
first week in July.
Councilmember Peterson inquired about the type of scoreboard
that will be used.
An OBA Representative said, "There are companies that make
electric scoreboards and donate them if they are used for
advertising. Another type of scoreboard would simply be plywood
scoreboard with numbers that would be put on manually. We have
not yet decided on a style of scoreboard."
Councilmember Goetten asked how many people the bleachers
will seat and will it be portable.
Mr. Hilbelink replied that they would like bleachers that
would seat 25 -30 people.
Mr. McPhearson said that Holbrook Park has a set of
bleachers that are approximately 20 to 30 feet long. and 15 to 20
feet deep. He added that they would remain during the entire
season.
Councilmember Goetten asked what the OBA intends to do for
• bathroom facilities.
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Mr. Hilbelink replied that there are facilities already
there.
Councilmember Goetten said that safety and parking are
concerns and that she has talked with the Orono police regarding
Bederwood Park. The Police Officer indicated that there has
never been any accident report or problems in that area. Goetten
said that if this use is approved, there should be signage
prohibiting parking on Stubbs Bay Road. This would mean that the
parking area for the park would have to be enlarged. Goetten
suggested that with the increased use of the park and the Luce
Line Trail parking may need to be increased without the Little
League use. Goetten asked Gerhardson if in fact it would be
necessary to install drain tile at Bederwood Park.
Gerhardson replied that tiling would not be necessary.
Goetten said that she is not sure whether the concession
stand is necessary. She did believe that allowing the OBA to use
Bederwood Park 4 nights a week from 3:30 to 8:30 starting June
8th would be appropriate. Goetten stated that the program will
be monitored very carefully and that she would visit the Park
regularly to view the operation first hand. Goetten indicated
that it would be very difficult to deny this use of the Park when
there is a real need in this area for this kind of organized
play. Goetten understood that Bederwood has always been intended •
for Little League use and felt it was time Orono took
responsibility to provide for a use such as this. Goetten
indicated that if she does approve this request, approval must be
based on this use being temporary and that there be an annual
review of this use. Goetten said that she does not want any
lights, or PA system and that parking needs to be upgraded.
Councilmember Peterson asked Gerhardson if he knew the
number of parking spaces available at Holbrook Park.
Gerhardson said that he did not know, but estimated that
there were 20 spaces.
Mr. Hilbelink said that Gary Larson had measured the
Holbrook and Bederwood parking lots. The parking lot at Holbrook
is 20,000 s.f. and Bederwood is 23,000 s.f.
Gerhardson said that there is a problem with the shape of
the Bederwood parking lot. Gerhardson also noted that half of
the parking lot belonged to Orono and the other half belonged to
the DNR.
Mayor Grabek stated that this was an opportunity to serve
all of the citizens of Orono. He said that he would be concerned
if this request involved exclusive use of all eight acres of the
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park. Grabek also felt that those persons involved with the OBA
who volunteered their time for the benefit of children deserved
the support of the Council. Grabek said I can't think of any
better way to use our park resources than for our children.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Callahan, to accept the proposal of the Park Commission with the
exclusion of voting against the concession stand. There should
be fencing, dugouts, bleachers and a concession stand that is
constructed with the input of the City staff so that it is
suitable for the Park. The Park will be inspected on a yearly
basis and the City maintains the right to cancel OBA's use of the
Park if there is just cause to do so. The OBA should be given a
three year term to use the Park. The removal of structures
constructed by the OBA shall occur if it is so deemed by the
Council. The scoreboards should be kept to a minimum visual
impact and there shall be no electric scoreboards, no PA system,
nor will any advertising be allowed anywhere on the premises.
The OBA will have use of the field one hour before game time, 4
nights a week. If the number of nights is to increase next year,
that should be part of the annual review. Security can be
provided to keep ATVs, etc. from damaging the field, but should
not prohibit anyone from using the field when it is not being
used by the OBA. Councilmember Goetten reiterated that this use
must be monitored carefully and be thoroughly reviewed in one
• year. Goetten also informed the OBA that this was their last
opportunity to present all of the information as to their plans
for the field. Goetten said that she would approve nothing
additional beyond what was proposed this evening. Mayor Grabek
further added that there should be one set of bleachers and that
there be no PA system. Councilmember Callahan thought that this
was a reasonable compromise with the matter being reviewed each
year. Callahan said that he is opposed to the long term use of
Bederwood Park for this purpose. Callahan said that he is
concerned about the concession stand becoming an attractive
nuisance and thought that it should be watched carefully.
Callahan said that as part of the annual review, he would like
the OBA to provide information showing what steps are being taken
toward the goal of moving to the School property. Councilmember
Callahan said that he had received numerous phone calls and
letters regarding this issue. Callahan was impressed by the
attitude of both sides and the way in which they presented the
pertinent facts to the Council. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion
passed.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS:
There were no public comments presented this evening.
MINUTES OF ORONO COUNCIL MEETING HELD MARCH 26, 1990
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
#1452 WALTER PEMBERTON
1720 SHADYWOOD ROAD
RESOLUTION
REQUEST TO TABLE*
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to table final adoption of a resolution granting
variances for a room addition in the 0 -75' zone for Walter and
Marilyn Pemberton, 1720 Shadywood Road, until such time that a
full five member City Council will be present. Motion, Ayes -4,
Nays -0, Motion passed.
#1468 GEORGE PILLSBURY
1300 BRACRETTS POINT ROAD
RRESOLUTION
REQUEST TO TABLE*
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to table final adoption of a resolution granting
variances and conditional use permit approval for a greenhouse
addition and grading /retaining wall work in the 0 -75' setback
zone for George and Sally Pillsbury, 1300 Bracketts Point Road,
until such time that a full five member City Council will be
present. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
#1489 F. JOHN HARDIN
1496 PARR DRIVE •
REQUEST TO TABLE*
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to table final adoption of a resolution approving
variances to construct an addition on an accessory structure
until such time that a full 5 member City Council is present.
Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
MAYOR /COUNCIL REPORT:
RESPONSE TO LONG LAKE ANNEXATION PETITION
RESOLUTION #2782
Mayor Grabek asked Gerhardson whether the City had received
a copy of the Petition.
Gerhardson replied, "No."
City Attorney Barrett stated that he had contacted the
Municipal Board and requested that a copy be sent as soon as they
receive it.
Councilmember Goetten asked whether the April 25, 1990 Court
date could be changed.
City Attorney Barrett said that he would see whether the
hearing could be postponed, and in the event that it cannot be
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put over, he would try to obtain information regarding the
agenda.
Councilmember Callahan did not believe that the Resolution
adequately expressed his opposition to the annexation. Callahan
suggested adding language to paragraph 12 that will reflect
Orono's belief that Long Lake is actively planning piecemeal
detachments and annexations. Callahan also suggested that
paragraph 8 be amended to state that the annexation would
adversely affect the economic value of surrounding properties.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Callahan, to adopt Resolution #2782 as amended and that City
Attorney Barrett be directed to keep the Council apprised of the
events surrounding this matter. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion
passed.
Councilmember Callahan suggested that this may be an ideal
opportunity for the Mayor to explain the history and events that
have occurred since this matter became an issue.
Mayor Grabek briefly explained the events that have lead to
the City of Long Lake filing a Petition for Annexation of the
Sewer Plant Property.
• HIGHWAY 12 CORRIDOR STUDY AND CITIZEN'S TASK FORCE
Mayor Grabek reported that the meeting has been scheduled
for March 28 and the information from that meeting will be
presented at the April 9 Council Meeting. Grabek indicated that
the City has received seven letters from people interested in
serving on the Citizen Task Force. Those letters can be reviewed
at the April 9 Council Meeting.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to accept the information presented by staff. Motion,
Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
STUBBS BAY SEWER
Acting City Administrator Gerhardson explained that
information was being presented that pertained to areas that
Council may wish to include or exclude with this project.
City Engineer Cook stated that the City has received
requests to include Christine Drive, Oxford Road and property
east of Leaf Street. Cook said, "The properties on Christine and
Oxford were developed as two acre lots and were not included in
the original study because they had not yet been developed. The
rest of the area has less than two acre lots with the exception
40 of a few lots that are over 2 acres. I believe, however, that
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all of those properties (in the original study) should be
included in the information presented at the public hearing. We
are also recommending that the lots to the east of Leaf Street be
included because they are less than the 2 -acre minimum standard
for the area.
Mayor Grabek asked whether staff is recommending that Oxford
and Christine be included in the study.
Cook replied that those areas should not be included in the
study. Cook noted that the 5 lots east of Leaf Street have not
previously been included in the study and the property owners
have not been notified. Cook suggested that if this area is to
be included, that staff meet with the property owners prior to a
public hearing.
Mayor Grabek asked whether it would be possible for the
Christine Drive and Oxford Road properties to tie into the line
at a later date.
Cook replied that it would be possible for both areas to tie
in later.
Grabek asked how these properties would be charged if they
were to tie in later, and questioned whether it may be
appropriate to charge those properties now. •
Cook replied that staff is recommending a standard trunk
charge of $6,500.00 plus a lateral charge. The $6,500.00 would
be charged to anyone that wished to connect in the future, as
would the lateral charge to bring the line to an individual
property.
Gerhardson noted that an inflationary factor would be
considered and added to the $6,500.00.
Councilmember Goetten said that in 1975 the Comprehensive
Plan states that lots that are 2 acres or more should have the
capacity to facilitate a primary and alternate septic site.
Goetten said that it is difficult for the Council to now request
those properties to be sewered. With regard to the Oxford Road
properties, Goetten questioned whether it is the City's goal to
see that lakeshore properties are sewered.
Gaffron responded that the Comprehensive Plan does not set
that goal. Gaffron believed, however, that it should be a goal
of the City to sewer lakeshore lots.
Goetten asked, what kind of systems the Oxford properties
currently have.
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Gaffron replied that there are three lakeshore properties
with mound systems and three with trench systems. All systems
meet current standards and only one has had sporadic failure
problems because of high water use. Gaffron said that there is
no evidence of any seepage into the lake.
Cook indicated that the difficulty involved with sewering
those properties has not been fully determined, but the lift
stations would have the capacity to serve that area. Cook said
that it may be necessary to add some form of a pumping system to
get the sewage to the system now being installed. Cook said that
it may be necessary for the City to obtain easements along the
lakeshore of those properties if sewer is to go into that area.
Mayor Grabek asked if there were any facts indicating that
over a period of time septic systems near the lake will
contaminate the lake.
Gaffron replied that after a long period of time it might be
possible for phosphorus to enter the lake. Gaffron said that the
process of phosphorus movement toward the lake will occur more
rapidly in sandy soils and more slowly in clays. he noted that
it might be 75 years or more before phosphorus gets to the lake
from correctly functioning systems.
• Councilmember Callahan stated that there seemed to be a
reason to include Oxford Road in the project, especially the
lakeshore lots.
Councilmember Peterson asked Gaffron why three lots had been
excluded from the Oxford area.
Gaffron said that those properties probably could not be
easily served without obtaining an easement from the properties
abutting Oxford Road and extending extra laterals across the
road, since the houses on the west side of the road would likely
be best served by a pipe on the lake side of those houses.
Mr. Steve Whitman, 3620 Eileen Street, indicated that he was
speaking on behalf of his wife Linda and David and Sherokee Ilse.
Mr. Whitman referred to a letter that he had distributed to the
Council this evening requesting that his property and the Ilse
property be excluded from the project. (See the Whitman /Ilse
letter dated 3/26/90.)
Mayor Grabek asked if there were other properties within
that area that have functioning septic systems?
Gaffron replied that 175 Landmark Drive was recently
developed and has a conforming septic system and a tested
is alternate site. Mr. Harren, the owner of the property has
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requested to be excluded from this project. Gaffron stated that •
if the Council wished to exclude any properties, the Harren
property would be a candidate. Gaffron said that 185 Landmark
Drive has less acreage and an existing system that is probably
within the 75' setback area. Gaffron said that there are
possible, but not fully evaluated alternate sites.
Mayor Grabek asked if exclusion of properties was a normal
procedure with a sewer project.
Cook said that exclusion is normally not a feasible option
because it increases the burden of cost for those that must be
included.
Mayor Grabek asked City Attorney Barrett what legal grounds
the Council would have if they chose to exclude certain
properties, but not others.
Barrett replied, "In my opinion, you have the authority to
sewer those properties which you think ought to be sewered. As
long as you have a reasonable basis for sewering some and not
others, you would have a legal authority to do that."
Ms. Sherokee Ilse, 3630 Eileen Street, understood that the
Comprehensive Plan does not require 2 acre properties to be
sewered. She suggested that the Council make a decision prior to •
any public hearing as to whether they intend to include two acre
properties in this project. She said that they too have a fairly
new septic system and a tested alternate site. She did not
understand why they were being included in the project.
Mr. Harren, 175 Landmark Drive, said that he had requested
permission from the City to put in a septic system without the
mound system because it would have saved him a significant amount
of money. Mr. Harren said that the City did not give him
permission to proceed in that manner because there was nothing in
the Code that allowed it. Mr. Harren said that the City proposed
the option of holding tanks, but due to the size of his family,
he did not think that was practical. Mr. Harren indicated that
it would be very costly to bring the sewer line to his property
and asked to be excluded. (See Mr. Harren's letter dated March
5, 1990.)
Mr. Terry Olson, 3640 Bayside Road, indicated that he had
the same objections to be included in the project as those
previously expressed. Mr. Olson said that he is an engineer and
disagrees with the earlier statements by staff regarding lake
contamination. Mr. Olson stated that as long as a septic system
is functioning properly, leeching will not occur. Mr. Olson
stated that he too had submitted a letter asking to be excluded
from this project. Mr. Olson expressed concern that the project
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would disturb trees existing along the lakeshore.
• Cook said that there is always that danger when undertaking
a project such as this.
Ms. Linda Whitman, 3620 Eileen Street, noted that their
property, and the Ilse and Harren properties as well, are set
back from the lake. Ms. Whitman referred to the information she
provided which states that they do have an alternate septic site.
She said that she would be willing to put in writing that they
would not do anything to their property that would disrupt that
site. Ms. Whitman asked that the Council make a determination
now that they are to be excluded before it becomes necessary to
become involved in a more costly debate about this issue.
Mayor Grabek said that he can understand the positions
indicated by those who wish to be exempt, but there is also the
problem of setting a form of precedent.
Ms. Ilse asked how many two+ acre, non - lakeshore sites exist
that have new septic systems and tested alternate sites.
Gaffron briefly summarized the status of the lots
recommended for inclusion in the project. There were only a few
lots that could be classified with the Harren property as being
in excess of two acres with tested primary and alternate sites.
Gaffron noted that Oxford Road and Christine Drive were being
considered only due to the request of residents that did not
• necessarily reside in either one of those locations. Gaffron
said that the residents were trying to decrease the cost /unit
factor by involving as many properties as possible.
Ms. Whitman said that she had talked with the City
Administrator and it had been determined that the exclusion of 4
or 5 properties would have a negligible effect on the cost of the
project. Ms. Whitman also noted that the Comprehensive Plan more
or less sets forth some criteria as to what lots should and
should not be included in the project. Ms. Whitman added that
the boundary lines for the project seem to be quite arbitrary.
Mayor Grabek said that he would prefer to have staff provide
more information regarding properties that they feel should be
included or that could be excluded.
Councilmember Goetten agreed with Mayor Grabek that the
Council does not have the expertise to plan for sewer projects.
Goetten did not think that Council had been provided with enough
criteria for making a decision as to what to include or exclude.
Goetten also noted that lawsuits increase the cost of the
project.
Gaffron asked,for direction from Council as to what specific
information they would like staff to provide. Gaffron stated
• that staff has made a recommendation as to which properties to
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include. He suggested that if Council wishes to exclude
properties from that area that it be done with a rational basis
using the physical characteristics of the various properties to
be excluded.
Cook added that when considering septic systems, one is not
dealing with an exact science when estimating the life of a
system. Cook said that when an area is considered, it should be
considered as a whole, because there are many subjective factors
to otherwise consider.
Councilmember Callahan asked Cook what is logical about the
area that has been recommended?
Cook replied, "It is contiguous to the County Road which is
the location we are proposing to place the trunk. We can
conveniently, by topography, serve the property within that
area."
Callahan stated that such criteria could apply to any
property abutting a County Road. He asked Cook what further
factors were considered when planning this project.
Cook said, "We began looking at Stubbs Bay Northwest and
Stubbs Bay Northeast because that is an area with small lots and
existing problems. From that determination we looked at the •
corridor along which the trunk line was established between the
two ties."
Gaffron depicted the area that the Comprehensive Plan
describes to be sewered. Gaffron said that there are obvious
boundaries with the Luce Line on the north, Leaf Street on the
east, Bayside Road to the south. Gaffron said that the City has
been talking about sewering this area for 15 years.
Cook said that anytime a project is considered, the
feasibility of doing the project must be also be considered.
They cannot make the project work if there are not enough
properties involved to keep costs within reason.
Callahan asked if there were compelling reasons to sewer
Stubbs Bay Northwest and Northeast?
Gaffron replied that yes, from soils and system condition
standpoints there is reason to sewer the area. Gaffron said that
not every system is failing, but there are a number of systems
that are too close to the lake and on small lots that have
seepage occurring. Gaffron stated that there are 6 -8 systems
that are using holding tanks and around the lake in particular,
that is a big concern.
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Mr. Olson said that it is obvious that there are properties
that are in need of sewer. He said that the City is asking the
larger, newly developed properties to support the smaller
properties that actually need the project.
The Council agreed that they were in need of more time to
review all of the aspects of this project.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Goetten, to table this matter until the April 9, 1990 Council
Meeting. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
CIGARETTE VENDING MACHINE
ORDINANCE 81, SECOND SERIES
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Callahan, to adopt Ordinance 81, Second Series, amending Section
5.24 so as to totally ban cigarette vending machines within the
City of Orono, effective May 1, 1990. Motion, Ayes -3,
Councilmember Peterson, Nay.
JOINT COUNCIL /PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Goetten, to hold a joint Council /Planning Commission Meeting for
Saturday, April 7, 1990 at 8:30 a.m. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays-
• 0, Motion passed.
REQUEST TO HAVE AUTO AUCTION*
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to establish April 28, 1990, at 10:00 a.m. at Martins
66 as the time and place for an auction of unclaimed vehicles
subsequent to published notice in the official newspaper and
notification being sent to registered owners. Motion, Ayes -
4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
•
SECRETARY POSITION RESIGNATION - EMPLOYMENT
Acting City Administrator Gerhardson requested that this
item be removed from consideration.
SALARY REVIEW - ASST. FINANCE DIRECTOR*
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to adjust Assistant Finance Director Linda Walters'
hourly wage rate from Level 5, Step II ($11.073) to Level 5, Step
III ($11.688) effective April 2, 1990. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -
0, Motion passed.
TERMINATION OF EMPLOYMENT PROBATIONARY POLICE OFFICER AND
PERMISSION TO EMPLOY FULL TIME POLICE OFFICER
Chief Kilbo requested permission to hire Mr. Jay Dembouski
as a full time officer to replace Jeff Larson who has been
terminated.
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It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to accept the termination of employment of a
probationary employee and authorize the employment of Mr. Jay
Dembouski at $10.558 per hour effective after April 2, 1990,
subject to his passing the necessary background investigation,
psychological and physical. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion
passed.
TERMINATION OF EMPLOYMENT PART -TIME OFFICER
PERMISSION TO HIRE PART -TIME OFFICER
Chief Kilbo requested that the resignation of Thomas Palkki
be accepted and that Council approve the hiring of Mr. Richard
Karnitz.
Councilmember Peterson asked how much money was expended on
the two Officers that have terminated.
Kilbo replied that nothing was spent for uniforms, but the
costs for the tests of these officers was lost.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Goetten, to accept the resignation of the part -time officer and
authorize the employment of Mr. Richard Karnitz at $9.285 per
hour effective April 2, 1990, subject to his passing the
necessary background investigation, psychological and physical.
Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed. •
TEMPORARY EMPLOYMENT - GOLF COURSE*
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to approve employing the following persons as counter
help and greenskeeper helper at the Orono Golf Course for the
1990 golfing season effective March 3, 1990:
Betty Stevens Counter Helper @ $5.50 /hour
Walter Mills Counter Helper @ $5.00 /hour
Robert Brown Counter Helper @ $4.75 /hour
Don Yeager Counter Helper @ $5.25 /hour
Dave Lindstrom Counter Helper @ $4.75 /hour
Fred Abrahamson Counter Helper @ $4.75 /hour
Doug Erickson Greenskeeper Helper @ $4.75 /hour
Dan Oas Greenskeeper Helper @ $5.25 /hour
Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
YARD WASTE COMPOSTING - 1990*
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to establish a leaf and grass drop -off program as
outlined above and to fund the cost of the program from the
recycling program. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
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• C.D.B.G. YEAR XVI
RESOLUTION #2783*
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to adopt Resolution #2783, approving the disbursement
of C.D.B.G. Year XVI funds as Resolution #2783 sets forth.
Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
SPRING CLEAN -UP DAYS*
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to designate May 5 and May 12, 1990 as Orono Spring
Clean -up Days. Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
ADMINISTRATOR'S INFORMATION*
It was moved by Mayor
Peterson, to accept the
regarding: Fire Coverage
Officer -Part Time, Police
Trapping, Planning Commissio
and Orono Interceptor /MWCC.
passed.
Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
City Administrator's Information
Zones, Well Drilling /Test, Police
Vehicle Replacement Plan, Beaver
z and Park Commission Appointments,
Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT:
City Attorney Barrett indicated that he had no report.
LICENSES
Councilmember Goetten noted that Lakeview Golf had submitted
• an application for a license to sell cigarettes from a vending
machine.
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Gerhardson asked if Council would approve the application if
that request is an error on behalf of Lakeview Golf and they are
asking to sell cigarettes over - the - counter. Councilmember Goetten
indicated that she would not object.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to approve the following license(s):
Home Occupation Initial Review:
Home Occupation Annual Review:
Cigarette:
On -Sale Non - Intoxicating Malt Liquor:
Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
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Maryanne Ebert
1680 North Farm Road
Marmet Services
130 Cygnet Place
Lakeview Golf (as amended)
405 North Arm Drive
Lakeview Golf
405 North Arm Drive
Rosemary Scheuer noted that over -the- counter cigarette
licenses would expire May 1, 1990 and asked whether they will
need to be relicensed?
Mayor Grabek asked City Staff to provide Ms. Scheuer with •
the information she requested.
Mayor Grabek also asked staff to provide Council with
information concerning the LOGO contest.
BILLS*
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to approve payment of the All Funds Account. Motion,
Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
ADJOURNMENT 10:10 P.M.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to adjourn the Regular Council Meeting at 10:10 p.m.
Motion, Ayes -4, Nays -0, Motion passed.
Jame R. Grabek-,- -Mayor
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