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Home My WebLink AboutRe: deck permit t , � , . , Christine Mattson From: Christine Mattson Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 4:11 PM To: 'Juan Cristiani' Cc: Jeremy Barnhart Subject: RE: Deck Permit for 3011 Sussex Road/#2015-00582 1uan, Since you are not proceeding with this project I will submit a request for the advance plan review fee you paid of $130.88 be refunded to you. Please note,all expenditures, including refunds require council approval. The next available council meeting is February 8th. Your check will be mailed following the meeting. Christine^' From:Juan Cristiani [mailto:juancristiani@gmail.com] Sent:Wednesday,January 20,201612:36 PM To:Christine Mattson<CMattson@ci.orono.mn.us> Subject: Re: Deck Permit for 3011 Sussex Road/#2015-00582 Christine, I haven't done anything with the project. The requirements that the city imposed are very costly and unreasonable. Thanks Juan Cristiani On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Christine Mattson<CMattson(a�ci.orono.mn.us>wrote: ``: Good Morning Juan, ;'; I am following up on the building permit application submitted on May 12, 2015 for a deck. Please provide us an ; update on where you are with this application. Thank you. i ; Christine^' { " From:Jeremy Barnhart :, Sent: Friday,June 26, 2015 8:58 AM To:Juancristiani@�mail.com i , • , , , '' Cc:Christine Mattson<CMattson@ci.orono.mn.us>; Melanie Curtis<MCurtis@ci.orono.mn.us> Subject: FW:Automatic reply: Deck Permit for 3011 Sussex Road i � ; ' Hi Juan, i I will try to provide the information you are requesting below. My answers to your questions are in bold. ! Hi Christine, I was following up on our phone conversation of last week regarding my request for a deck '��' building permit. You stated that I would need to delineate the wetland to proceed, I wanted to get a written :� response from the city in regards to what I need to do to gain a permit. Once I delineate the wetlands what are "` the next steps that I need to take?The wetland, once delineated will need to be approved by the watershed district. Do I have to also do a survey of the house, swimming pool,patios etc to get a permit? Yes. Most ';; projects require a survey. The Council understands your issue. In May of this year,the Council `` amended the survey requirements, listing a number of conditions,that, if inet,would exempt the °: requirement of a certified survey. (a plan would still be needed). If a project: Has an as built survey (we don't have), is outside the Shoreland Overlay district(it is), ; is not subject to the Stormwater Quality Overlay district(it isn't), i is greater than 2 acres (it is), � exceeds the required setbacks by 150% (it does,partially), and the project does not exceed 200 square feet in size(it does) A certified survey is not required. `` Since these standards are not satisfied,the survey is required. I need to know all of this in order to make a " decision to see I will invest further in this project. For the deck you propose,we require a survey. The �; information on the survey must show any wetlands. The survey we do have,from 1998,is F attached. Perhaps this will help with the costs. Specific questions I need answers to are as follow: � E '� Besides a survey to delineate the wetlands, what other surveys do I need to do for the city or wetland ; commission to provide a deck building permit? Is it just the house? Or does it need to include the pool and any `';.„ patios around the pool?Does it need to include the driveway on my house? The survey requirements are � listed on the attached sheet. It does need to include the house,the septic locations,the driveways, ; etc. Part of what we check is the amount of hard cover on the property. 3 ' What are the setbacks from wetland areas as far as building the deck? How far from the wetland can the deck i be built? The deck must be at least 35 feet from the delineated edge of the wetland. 2 Y . � � � `: What will the city require in terms of escrow to do this project? Escrow for a project that does not require ; grading has been established by the City Council at$700. The escrow is necessary to guarantee the � reimbursement of out of pocket costs associated with the review of the project, so taxpayers do not have ; to pay for the review of your project. ; � Once I delineate the wetland, will the water shed commission need to approve the project? The watershed will '°, approve the wetland delineation,they have no say in the design or construction of your deck other than '' its setback. Will the city work with the wetland commission to determine if the building of the deck can proceed or do I need to work this out with the wetland commission? We work closely with the watershed district on all of our projects. If there is a difference in opinion on the delineation,you'll Gkely have to work that out with them directly,we won't issue the permit until they approve the delineation. � 3 3 Who I can contact on the wetland commission? Can I get a name and phone number? Im sorry, but I don't ' have a name. The website where you can get general answers is httu://www.minnehahacreek.org/. Your `. delineator will submit the delineation to them for verification. i ! I want some feedback from the city in terms of the guidelines that will allow me to build the deck. It doesn't ''�! make any sense for me to invest on surveying the wetland if I won't get a permit to build the deck. There is i not a lot of discretion (choice) for the city in issuing building permits. If it meets the requirements � established by the city (setbacks) and the state (building construction)we have to issue it. That said, � sometimes, modificatiuons to a building project are necessary to meet these requirements. For egample, � based on the location of the wetland,you may need to adjust the deck design. i � ; I ' I hope you understand where I am coming from. We do. This information is requested not to be a burden, `` but to make sure the project you want to do can be built. The survey and all of the information we ':� request is necessary because it is much easier(and cheaper) to change a plan on paper than once ! construction has started. I have invested about$2000 on the deck design and structural review and permit ; and I believe it will be fair for the city to provide me some written information before I invest $3000 in more surveys. E i I appreciate your help and response to these questions in writing. I hope my answers have helped with your ? understanding of the requirements. Please let me know if you need anything else. Feel free to e mail at � juancristiani@�mail.com '.. I appreciate your help. I would like to finish this project this year and time is of the sense for me. 3 , , , . , ' Thanks " Juan Cristiani � 3011 Sussex Road ' Orono, Minnesota, 55356 ; Ce11 651 485 0326 r � ; On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Christine Mattson<CMattson(a�ci.orono.mn.us>wrote: ' Thank you for contacting the Planning &Zoning Department at the City of Orono. ; The office closes at 11:30 am on Fridays from May to August. ' Due to the volume of emails and calls received, inquiries will be returned using the FIFO (first in, first out) method. '!: Christine Mattson `.: Planning Assistant ( t 4 � oZ/l ��'�5 0�1o�6Yi - sy►o�� b� �wi�' ��cv�pf�l � ��^a,��n�� an��y ��ar''�'� �1° '�� tb1(� �� P��h� '��n � . �la� ,'.�°I^°�' ��.�'� �5d�f 7`� �� z°l �dr�o�s•�� ,c �^�� 5 B� Pa��U �1 �.n,� �.� � �ry, °�� l�r,�� r�a �'o�d ay Pa�a�ra � � .°� ,,t,,".,,� S,'� � ��a�1/s�,�y� �,�� n �a�j/1 � , s�/�.1� � . , Jeremy Barnhart From: Jeremy Barnhart Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 8:58 AM To: 'Juancristiani@gmail.com' Cc: Christine Mattson; Melanie Curtis Subject: FW: Automatic reply: Deck Permit for 3011 Sussex Road Attachments: Survey_Requirements_-_March_2014.pdf; SKM_C654e15062607530.pdf Hi Juan, I will try to provide the information you are requesting below. My answers to your questions are in bold. Hi Christine, I was following up on our phone conversation of last week regarding my request for a deck building permit. You stated that I would need to delineate the wetland to proceed, I wanted to get a written response from the city in regards to what I need to do to gain a permit. Once I delineate the wetlands what are the next steps that I need to take? The wetland, once delineated will need to be approved by the watershed district. Do I have to also do a survey of the house, swimming pool, patios etc to get a permit? Yes. Most projects require a survey. The Council understands your issue. In May of this year, the Council amended the survey requirements, listing a number of conditions, that, if inet,would exempt the requirement of a certified survey. (a plan would still be needed). If a project: Has an as built survey (we don't have), � is outside the Shoreland Overlay district(it is), is not subject to the Stormwater Quality Overlay district (it isn't), is greater than 2 acres (it is), exceeds the required setbacks by 150% (it does, partially), and the project does not exceed 200 square feet in size (it does) A certified survey is not required. Since these standards are not satisfied, the survey is required. I need to know all of this in order to make a decision to see I will invest further in this project. For the deck you propose,we require a survey. The information on the survey must show any wetlands. The survey we do have, from 1998, is attached. Perhaps this will help with the costs. Specific questions I need answers to are as follow: Besides a survey to delineate the wetlands, what other surveys do I need to do for the city or wetland commission to provide a deck building permit? Is it just the house? Or does it need to include the pool and any patios around the pool? Does it need to include the driveway on my house? The survey requirements are listed on the attached sheet. It does need to include the house, the septic locations, the driveways, etc. Part of what we check is the amount of hard cover on the property. What are the setbacks from wetland areas as far as building the deck? How far from the wetland can the deck be built? The deck must be at least 35 feet from the delineated edge of the wetland. What will the city require in terms of escrow to do this project? Escrow for a project that does not require grading has been established by the City Council at$700. The escrow is necessary to guarantee the reimbursement of out of pocket costs associated with the review of the project, so taxpayers do not have to pay for the review of your project. Once I delineate the wetland, will the water shed commission need to approve the project? The watershed will approve the wetland delineation,they have no say in the design or construction of your deck other than its setback. Will the city wark with the wetland commission to determine if the building of the deck can proceed or do I need to work this out with the wetland commission? We work closely with the watershed i district on all of our projects. If there is a difference in opinion on the delineation,you'll likely have to work that out with them directly,we won't issue the permit until they approve the delineation. Who I can contact on the wetland commission? Can I get a name and phone number? Im sorry, but I don't have a name. The website where you can get general answers is http://www.minnehahacreek.org/. Your delineator will submit the delineation to them for verification. I want some feedback from the city in terms of the guidelines that will allow me to build the deck. It doesn't make any sense far me to invest on surveying the wetland if I won't get a permit to build the deck. There is not a lot of discretion (choice) for the city in issuing building permits. If it meets the requirements established by the city (setbacks) and the state (building construction)we have to issue it. That said, sometimes, modificatiuons to a building project are necessary to meet these requirements. For example, based on the location of the wetland,you may need to adjust the deck design. I hope you understand where I am coming from. We do. This information is requested not to be a burden, but to make sure the project you want to do can be built. The survey and all of the information we request is necessary because it is much easier (and cheaper) to change a plan on paper than once construction has started. I have invested about $2000 on the deck design and structural review and permit and I believe it will be fair far the city to provide me some written information before I invest $3000 in more surveys. I appreciate your help and response to these questions in writing. I hope my answers have helped with your understanding of the requirements. Please let me know if you need anything else. Feel free to e mail at juancristiani@gmail.com I appreciate your help. I would like to finish this project this year and time is of the sense for me. Thanks Juan Cristiani 3011 Sussex Road Orono, Minnesota, 55356 Cell 651 485 0326 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Christine Mattson<CMattson(a�ci.orono.mn.us> wrote: Thank you for contacting the Planning &Zoning Department at the City of Orono. The office closes at 11:30 am on Fridays from May to August. Due to the volume of emails and calls received, inquiries will be returned using the FIFO (first in, first out) method. Christine Mattson Planning Assistant z ! � ORDINANCE NO. 146,THIltD SERIES CITY OF ORONO HENNEPIN COUNTY,MiNNESOTA AN ORDINANCE AMENDING AND ADDING NEW LANGUAGE TO CHAPTER 86, SECTION5 8b-66 AND 86-68 ORONO CTTY CODE REGARDING LANDSCAPE PERNIITS AND SURVEY REQUIREMENTS THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ORONO,MINNESOTA ORDAINS: SECTION 1. City Code Chapter 86, Section 86-66 regarding land alteration permits is hereby amended as follows: Sec. 86-66. —Required �Permits Rec�uired. It is unlawful for any person#o erect, construct, enlarge, alter, repair, move, improve, remove, convert, or demolish any building or structure, or any part or portion, including but not limited to the general constrvction, plumbing, wate��on-site sewage treatment system, wood stoves and fireplaces,ventilating, heating or air conditioning systems, or cause such worlc to be done, without firsf obtaining a separate buiiding, siqn, or general permit for each such building, structure or separate camponent from the city. �Zonin� Permit for Land Alteration. A land alteration and hardcover plan shall be submitted with the survey or site nlan and incQrporated as part of the buildina oermit approval�includin4 the name of the individual qertormina the woric. If no buildinq aermit is necessarv, a separate zoning AeRnit apalication for hardcover and/or land alteration shall be submitted bv the individual aerformina the work prior to conductinQ anv land alteration oc hardcover installations on a aronertv, includin�saradinp, patios and retainin�walls. The zonina permit shall be reviewed and apqroved bv the citv prior to issuance. SECTION 2. City Code Chapter 86, Section 86-68 regarding survey requirements is hereby amendad as follows: Sec. 86-68. - Permit app�ication; information required. (a} The application for a construction permit or land alteration permit shall include such information as may be requirBd by the city, which may vary between types of construc�iion projects. (b) Su►veys required: (1) lnitial survey or sife plan. Any building, zonin4 or general permit application for construction of a new structurel ef expansion of an existing structure or land alteration shall be accompanied by a certificate of survey or site plan drawn to scale �repared by a person reaistered bv the Minnesota Board of Architecture, En�ineerina, Land Survevina. Landscape Architecture. and Interior Desian. A certificate of survey or site r , I�an shali conform to the Cifir of Orono Survev and Site Plan Reauiremer�ts. s�a�ar�s a. The certification of the �lan bv a licensed arofessional mav be exempted bv the citv ensiineer if the t�roiect me�s afl of the followin�: 1) An existin�As-BuiEt survev exists for the nrouertv: 2) Praoertv is located outside the Shoreland Overlav District: 3) Propertv is not subied to the S#ormwater Qualitv Overlav District: , 4) Proqertv corrtains 2.0 acre�s or areater in area: 5) Proposed proi ct exceeds the rea�ired setback rec�uirement bv 1 • an 6) Proposed nroiect footarir�t daes not exceed 200 sauare feet. (2) Foundation survey. A foundation survey shall be submitted ta the city for review and a�roval, unless ex�n�ed by #he building ofiicial, upon completion of the foundation work for a!I buildings and all addfions to buildings. The foundation survey, prepered by a Minnesota Registered Land Surveyor, shatl certify the lot dimensions; front, side, rear, [akeshore, and wetland setbadcs; and founda�on elevation. A foundation survey must be submitted before proceedinfl with framing or further constructi�. IR lieu of a survey a letter prepared by a Mlnnesota Registered Lar� Surveyor containing the same information as a foundation survey may be submitted. (3) As-built survey. An as-built survey, prepared by a Minnesota Registered Land Surveyor, shafi be submitted to the city for review and approvai upon the cflmpletion of all buildings and all additions to buildings, unless exempted.by the Iwildir�g �aal. The as-buil# sUrvey shall oe�tify the flnal topography of the site; verify drainage pattems; and prav�de hardcaver calculations for lofis in #he Shoreland 4verlay Distriat. An as- buih sunrey must be approved before the issuanoe of a oe�tificate of occupancy. In the event that weather or a4her conditians pr�event the completlon of an as-built survey at the time the Certificate of Occupancy is requesfied, applicant shall provide a sufficient financial guarantee and establish an escrow agreement to ensure completion of the as- built survey. SEGTI�. Effective date. This ordinsnce shall be effective upon adoption and publication according to law. ADOPTED this l lth day of May, 2415 by the Orono City Council. A vote of 4 ayes and 1 nay. CITY OF ORONO �JG • Lili McMillan,Mayor ATTEST: �Q.� ' e Tiegs,City rk g-��o C ITY OF ORONO � � Street Address: Mailing Address: Telephone(952)249-4600 �, Gti 2750 Kelley Parkway I P.O.Box 66 I Fax (952)249-4616 l,q t�, Orono,MN 55356 Crystal Bay,MN 55323 www.ci.orono.mn.us kFsxo� June 24,2015 Juan Cristiani 3011 Sussex Road Long Lake, MN 55356 Re: Building Permit Application#2015-00582 We received a building permit application for deck. Staff conducted a preliminary review based on the information provided and recommends the following items be submitted or revised in order for your application to be considered complete and for the plan review to continue: 1. Certificate of Survey. • A site plan was submitted. The site plan does not show the septic line which appears to exit the house under the porch and potentially the deck. Please have the septic line and tanks shown on the site plan. • The site plan did not show the drainage easement on the property. Upon further review of our maps, it appears a wetland extends along the northwest line of your property. 2. Wetlands. Based on our available information, it appears there is a wetland within the subject property. This wetland appears to be located within 150 feet of the proposed project. Because Orono City Code requires a 35-foot setback from any wetland for structures or hardcover,the location of the wetland must be indicate n the survey. Setbacks must be verified with wetland delineation information. Leve12 Delineation is required. A Level 2 delineation shall include the exact surveved boundarv of the wetland shown on the certificate of survey. 3. Escrow & Escrow Agreement. Permits involving grading and/or review by the City's engineer require submittal of an escrow and an escrow agreement. The purpose of the escrow is to guarantee reimbursement to the City for out-of-pocket costs incurred during the review of your plans. Additionally this escrow will guarantee conformance with City Code Chapter 79 relating to erosion control and stormwater. The required escrow amount for this project is $700. The escrow agreement is enclosed. The property owner must sign the escrow agreement and submit a check for$700. 4. Separate City Permits Required for: a. Zoning Permit. Prior to the commencement of � exterior/landscaping improvements, i.e. patios, grading, sidewalks, retaining walls, etc., not currently shown on the site plan/survey requires a Zoning Permit application be submitted and approved. June 24,2015 3011 Sussex Road Page 2 of 2 Your project may trigger the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District's (MCWD) permitting requirements; please contact the MCWD directly at 952-471-0590 regarding your project. Please note, the City of Orono will not issue a buiiding permit without a copy of MCWD permits or documentation from the MCWD stating the proposed project does not trigger any of their permitting requirements. The above information is required in order for the plan review to continue. Please feel free to contact me at 952.249.4620 or by email at cmattson@ci.orono.mn.us if you have any questions on the above requirements. Sincerely, CITY OF ORONO �Iw Christine Mattson Planning Assistant c Juan Cristiani via email Roger Peitso, Building Official enclosures MEMO To: Melanie Curtis, City of Orono, MN From: Loren Kohnen, Metro West Inspections Date: May 26, 2015 Item: Deck expansion at 3011 Sussex Road, Orono I reviewed the proposed plan for the deck expansion over the septic line. The main septic line must be located and marked. In addition,the footing locations must be staked. T'hen, ca11 and schedule a Site Inspection, so that we can consider approval of the proposed footings locations. After that, Roger Peitso can review the building plans. cc: file �"'a /ti(. c !i¢�v�r G'�R J`rs flofida�Inn � �. /� d 5fc�,3 T �e c. tE +�'�C �oh-'� �io.� ,t�a' .�dlt s�sst,�c �Qen..�, Oitovm ?� !� �v t�.�.r o.� ! �` 7"�'¢�✓ �o .e� �� cPce../4 €}��/1-w$'c o w �9��-� '7�� s c p�< < !� R- � �s�` �..��v S s`/J�`c �. .r. c `u vg � �,��,�w�t.0, 6� /o �.� ��,� �� J ��-z</�' �-.,�f � � s � �� F � �s.� ,� �'e 7�ti ��'!v:� 4�.�` !'w.r 9 j( <!.�,.d kJ � �.�. � ,L �� ►��7 �'o�.�t�►�r �-�� ,� 6� �o.�= �� .s �� . ��tr � ��5- . .. . :�, . .• :�� MEMORANDUM Date: May 21, 2015 To: Metro West From: Christine Mattson, Planning Assistant c Melanie Curtis, Planning & Zoning Coordinator RE: Building Permit Number 2015-00582 3011 Sussex Road Attached are a reduced set of the building plans and a copy of the partial survey submitted for a proposed deck at 3011 Sussex Road. Also attached is a copy of the City's septic information. Please review the attached information and provide comments by Thursday, May 28, 2015. Please contact me at cmattsons(a�ci.orono.mn.us or 952-249-4620 or Melanie at mcurtis�ci.orono.mn.us or 952-249-4627 if you need additional information or if you have any questions. Thank you. . . . • �� . 3�1 I �� , _ _�-- � . ; - , / � � � �I��l � � � � � � � � c � �;mu �� _ a�}- � �7:3 — — T�m �a'� `�`�� — — o b��' �� —. — T/�� D 63 , , y,��1� ��7 � �7 d Christine Mattson From: Adam Edwards Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 11:54 AM To: Christine Mattson Cc: Jeremy Barnhart; Melanie Curtis; Roger Peitso Subject: RE: 3011 Sussex Road/#2015-000582 Chris, Chris, I do not need an additional survey as there does not seem to be any significant changes to grade. There should be an as-built but it could be as simple as the plan. Adam From: Christine Mattson Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:23 PM To: Adam Edwards Cc: Jeremy Barnhart; Melanie Curtis; Roger Peitso Subject: 3011 Sussex Road/ #2015-000582 Adam, The property owner,Juan Cristiani, stopped in a couple of weeks ago and spoke to Jeremy and I about a proposed deck at the above address. Since there is not a recent survey in the file,we told him we were not sure if an updated survey prior to the project would be required or just an as-built. On 5-12-2015 Mr.Cristiani submitted an application. Loren from Metro West has some concerns about the septic line and the footings of the proposed deck. See Loren's memo. The septic sites are shown on the site plan, but not the pipe and tanks, see septic as-built. I am wondering if the site plan that was submitted will suffice? Or does it need additional detail? Will this project require an as-built survey? Thank you. Christine Mattson Planning Assistant City of Orono 2750 Kelley Parkway I Orono ( MN � 55356(physical addressJ PO Box 66 � Crystal Bay I MN { 55323-0066 (mailing addressJ "�" 952.249.4620 � 2, 952.249.4616 � cmattson@ci.orono.mn.us � � www.ci.orono.mn.us Summer Office Hours: (Monday, May 18 through Friday,August 28,2015) Monday-Thursday: 7:30 am to 5 pm Friday: 7:30 am to 11:30 am OUR OFFICE WILL BE CLOSED: Friday,July 3, 2015 i