HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-07-16 Email RE: Septic Compliance Monica Fadness
From: Roger Peitso
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 4:06 PM
To: Rick Kindseth; Monica Fadness
Cc: Judy Kindseth; Jeremy Barnhart; Christine Mattson
Subject: RE: 4380 6th Ave N, Orono, MN 55356 PID: 31-118-23-12-0018
Rick,
I have talked to many people about the property and the most information I can give you is that the existing septic
system is non-compliant and is required to be brought up to code at the point of sale.This is required by City of Orono
Code Sec. 58-77 (see below)
Sec. 58-77. - Property transaction standards for individual sewage treatment systems.
(a) No owner of a tract of land upon which a dwelling is located, or a tract of land upon which a structure which is required
to have an individual sewage treatment system is located, shall sell or transfer to another party said tract of land, unless
the following requirements are met:
(1) The seller of any property having an individual sewage treatment system shall have a state licensed inspector or
designer I complete the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency(MPCA) sewage system compliance inspection form
for existing sewage systems in accordance with this article and Minnesota Rules chapter 7080. The exception
would be a new septic system installed within the previous five years or a compliance inspection performed by a
licensed inspector or designer I within the previous three years.
(2) The seller must provide a copy of the completed sewage system disclosure form and the certificate of compliance
or notice of non-compliance to any person who signs a purchase agreement. The disclosure form and certificate
of compliance or notice of non-compliance inspection form must be provided to the buyer prior to signing the
purchase agreement.
(3) The licensed inspector or designer I must submit a copy of the certificate of compliance or notice of non-
compliance to the city within 30 days of the date of inspection.
(4) If the existing system is found to be out of compliance it must be brought into compliance prior to transfer of the
property. If the system is not brought into compliance prior to transfer, the seller shall provide the buyer sufficient
security in the form of an escrow agreement to assure the installation of a complying ISIS.
(5) If the seller fails to provide a certificate of compliance, the seller shall provide the buyer sufficient security in the
form of an escrow agreement to assure the installation of a complying ISIS.
(6) The security shall be placed in an escrow with a licensed real estate closer, licensed attorney-at-law or a federal
or state chartered financial institution. The amount escrowed shall be equal to 150 percent of a written estimate
to install a complying ISTS provided by a licensed and certified installer, or the amount shall be equal to 110
percent of the written contract price for the installation of a complying ISTS provided by a licensed and certified
installer. After a complying ISIS has been installed and a certificate of compliance issued, the City of Orono shall
provide the escrow agent a copy of the certificate of compliance.
(Ord. No. 38 3rd series, § 3, 9-24-2007)
As far as what can or cannot be installed on the this property is to be determined by a certified septic designer. I have
not seen any proposed designs to date so I do not know what are all of the difficulties to be encountered on this site.
First we want a ';standard"type system, a "Type I" system as described in Chapter 7080 of the Minnesota Septic Rule.
Due to existing soils conditions or lack of large enough areas on this property that meet the criteria for a Type I system,
we allow Type II or Type Ill systems instead.
There is a lot of technical jargon involved but the bottom line is Type II and Type Ill systems are excepted for use
as septic systems but they don't meet the criteria of a Type I.They usually cost more than a Type I system because there
is extra materials being used in the construction of the system to make up for what is lacking in the soils of the septic
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site chosen.There also needs to be monitoring of the system for a period of time to see if the system is performing as
designed. A plan is created ahead of time of what to do to mitigate situations if the system is not performing as
designed. The monitoring plan is normally 2 to 3 years, twice a year, and proof of a monitoring contract by a third party
is required at the time of permitting a Type II or Type III system. The Maintainer is required to send reports of the
testing and monitoring to the City of Orono throughout this process. If it performs well then the system is allowed to
revert to the normal maintenance the same a as Type I system.
A Type IV system is not allowed by ordinance, requires a variance, it is the last resort (other than holding tanks) and it
needs to be proven to the City that there is no other options available. A variance can be given administratively so there
is no need to petition the City Council for a variance.A Type IV system usually involves some form of technology to pre-
treat the effluent to make up for what is lacking in the soils or the site chosen.This can be costly because of the
technology being used will require monitoring and maintenance throughout the entire life of the septic system. A
contract for the maintenance and a mitigation plan is also required at the time of permitting. If the monitoring is not
maintained and any required ongoing maintenance is not completed as scheduled then the septic system becomes non-
compliant. It is also required if a Type IV system is installed that there is extra fees to cover the costs of using an
inspector certified to review and inspect Type IV systems.
If you have any other questions please call,
Sincerely,
Roger Peitso
Building Official
City of Orono
Phone: 952-249-4600
Direct: 952-249-4625
Email: rpeitso@ci.orono.mn.us
Fax: 952-249-4616
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From: Rick Kindseth [mailto:rkindseth@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 12:40 PM
To: Roger Peitso <rpeitso@ci.orono.mn.us>; Monica Fadness<MFadness@ci.orono.mn.us>
Cc:Judy Kindseth <judyk@judyk.com>
Subject:4380 6th Ave N,Orono, MN 55356 PID: 31-118-23-12-0018
We have this property listed for the bank and we have had a number of offers, but the septic system has become
an issue that the buyer's can't seem to resolve.
Our understanding is that there is insufficient space on this lot for an adequate septic system.
If possible, we would like to get clarification from the city as to what you require for a well and septic system
for this property, so that we can get this property sold.
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Thank you for your help.
Rick Kindseth
JudyK Team
RE/MAX Results
3351 Round Lake Blvd NW
Anoka, MN 55303
612-963-2923
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