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Home My WebLink AboutRe: correspondence between neighbors s��+� Zimbra: Re: survey � Page 1 of 2 Rnd•�_ � In Eneil hle�ges v '��j�� Advancjed version Manaae Aaount � �r�Help �Log Out i � aeaboR18000md�si.aom � Mali � Address Book � � Calendar j Prpferenoes � � � �ao.ee��i.xx,e y � � , I � � [� � i ---- -- � w�aa�s —�__�sadc oo Inbmc ��nei�e� rw�e oo... � a+rn�e I rMo�e Actloru.�;Go�C,'�r7ar+�an Reaa �t� 1 a 1 p�iP� � �c�u) � � �t :�Re:su�vey � Drafls(4� ❑ � 4 � ELQlR � � FoldarSim � lunk(27) Doug,I�olae to a�rveyor boday and faind out that they � T� E/ Troy Ehlers can chfsel an 7C I�o the boulder if... Inbox 51B Sep 27 � SenUYkll � Seard�es � � �m:TroY��-�> Fri,Sep 27,2013 01:05 PM � T� � j Sub�eCt:Re:survey To:seabolt1800�md�si.com I� �Y j� Re�Y AI��; Faward�t�ji Pnnt �f�i� Doug, I spoke to a surveyor today and found out that they can chisel an 'X' into the boulder if it's sitting directly on the corner marker. You miqht ask your surveyors not to mark the corner, but I plan to have the corner marked. If I had known you were goinq to put that boulder directly on the corner pin (which I suspect you did, but am not yet certain), I wouldn't have given you permission to place it there, but it may not be a surveying problem after all. So that alleviates one of my concerns and I'll continue to allow you to keep your boulder there for the time beinq. If I want you to move it later, I'll let you know. (I think it just becomes half mine after a while? I'll look into that), however I ask that you remove the cedar chips and bricks and stop planting mums or anything on my side of the property line (that can wait until after your survey, of course. You can remove the flowers and such at that time). After that, I will take care of decoratinq my side of the rock. Upon further consideration, I've decided it best if I were not to get involved with your survey, so I will not be reimbursing you for part of the survey costs or ask for copies of your suroey. My feelinq is that it's your responsibility to survey before you plant or construct anything. I will do my own survey in the spring if Z decide to plant lakeside. Doug, i believe your suroey will demonstrate that a substantial portion of your bricks have been on my property. i asked politely that you remove them. You did not. Rather than taking leqal action (ie suinq you for encroachment), it seemed the less hostile route to simply point out that bricks weren't allowed down there anyways. ' Every step of the way, I've tried to be the good neiqhbor and been forgiving when you break promises, and been accommodatinq when you ask for things (like the boulder placement) . For years I tolerated the bricks and allowed , you to leave them there and tend both sides. When our relationship deteriorated, I simply asked that you respect the property line. I've asked nothing else of you, other than that you respect the property line. When you continued to cross it, I tried to show you in photographs what w�s happening, and this only angered you. Even as late as yesterday, I tried to work with you and I thought you could be reasonable. I thought We were forgetting about the past and making up and we were going to work together. Then you tell me that right after we spoke you went to City Iiall to attempt retaliation for my reporting the bricks. Really? a line of a $100 worth of bricks that you just laid in the dirt (on my property) and you're just going to try to have them take away my entire patio? That speaks volumes to your character and mentality. We both aqreed that we didn't want any hostilities. However, I want nothing to do with a person who can say they don't want hostilities and in the same breath mention such a childish act. I see no need for us to make any aqreements about anything. Period. You do https://mail.mchsi.com/zimbraTh/search�j sessionid=jttrl gjdawfn?... 9/28/2013 . rage � or � ��r what you will on your property, I'll do what I will on mine. All we need to do is obey the law. Do not call me. Do not email me. Stop trespassing on my property. 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Dou9.Pm�rry you thlnk I'm"goirx�out of my 0 � Troy Ehiers vray tn make things difficul�'simply by Inbox 91B Sep 21 requesbng... ❑ Doug Seaboft Sent from my iPhone Inbox 258KB Sep 21 From:Troy Ehlers<troy�trayehlers.aom> Sa4�p 21,201310:59 AM Subjed:Re:Re: To:seabolti�md�sf.com � R�a�� '��r� ��I� �m '`�j�: Doug, I'm sorry you think I'm "going out of my way to make things difficult" simTly by requesting that you leave my property alone. In my defense, I'ne never had to ask this of any other neighbor. As you should recall, when I first moned here we had a gentleman's agreement. You wanted to pull out the hedge and replace it with a row of hostas. I didn't want a row of hostas there, but I said how nice it would be if we were to have nothing but grass there. We would look out our windows and see not2�ing but lake and lawn. It would be like living on a golf course, nothinq but natural, undisturbed beauty of qreen and water. We only had a verbal contract, which in business Z know better than to enter into, but being a new neighbor, I chose to take you at your word. I didn't get anything in writing. This set the tone early for our relationship. Sure enouqh, the moment you had pulled out all of the hedges, you suddenly decided somethinq needed to separate our properties. You said that you "suddenly realized" there were weeds on my lawn and you needed to have a divider to protect yourself from the weeds. I was worried you'd plant a row of hostas after all, or put up some silly-looking wire fence like you have on the other property line, so I said that if you really needed to put something there, do something small like a row of those bricks--it was the least obtrusive thinq I could think of off the top of my head. The problem is, every time I look out, and instead of seeing a nice green lawn and lake, I see this qoofy line of bricks (I call it "Douq's Great Wall of Tonka") . It doesn't matter that it's bricks, either. It could be lilies or hydrangeas or plastic or anything... What's UGLY about that wall is that it's a permanent marker of how you swindled me out of that hedge. You lied and didn't uphold your end of the bargain. I tried to look past that for years, but every time I look out and see that line--or even worse, I see you reaching across it... it's a reminder of how I let my neighbor con me. If you were a man of morals, that property line would be a mark of shame for you. A scarlet letter on your breast. But my guess is that you're proud of https://mail.mchsi.com/zimbra/h/search?su=1&si=11&so=50&sc... 9/28/2013 , ' Limbra: Re: Re: Page 2 of 3 � it, it's somethinq you "earned" by outsmarting your neiqhbor. ' I'm sick of haning a property barrier down there. Even aside from it being a physical manifestation of your trickery, it's not attractive to me and I don't understand why it is to you. And contrary to your beliefs, those bricks aren't what's keeping your yard free of creeping charlie. So what I wanted to do was to let the grass grow 2-3 inches higher along the bricks. The bricks become much less visible from my side that way. So if you'd 1 kindly refrain from tri�ning my side, and let the grass grow a little, that would be great. You'd be able to see the wall bright and glarinq from your side, and it would be closer to invisible from mine. Win-win. That's a friendly neighbor solution. My other thought was to plant a new hedge down there. This time I'll make sure it's on my property, not as close to the line as the rest of it. Maybe we need more of a divider between us, anyways. I'm starting to think a new hedqe would be better than even undisturbed lawn. In March I'm going to prune down the rest of the hedges on my property to 6 inches off the ground. Just like I did on the other side. if you look, you'll see that the lilacs over there are many hundreds of times more thick and lush than the were a couple years ago. The hedge is tired and old. It wants to be fresh, new growth from underneath. With the lilacs on the other side of my property, you used to be able to just walk through them, but now you can't even see through them! The reason i was so angry you'd pruned on my property a few weeks back (and why I reported it to the police before you got to the driveway pa=t) was because i'm letting them grow out this season so the root system is as healthy as possible. That will ensure the best qrowth in the spring, after they are pruned down to 6 inches while dormant. Naturally, I'll only prune that part of the hedge that's on my property. You may want to check after l do it, because I'm anticipating this (infrequent, but possible) problem: If a limb begins on your property, and crosses over onto mine at 3 feet hiqh, then I can only cut it where it crosses, at 3 feet high. That limb is more likely to die, unless it's cut down to 6-12 inches. (If it's cut to 6-12 inches of the ground, it will grow back strong and hardy, but if you cut at 3 feet, it's more likely to become dead wood. The plant can only send out new shooters/suckers and reinviqorate itself if it's low--or at least, it's got a better chance that way. So anyways, what i'm saying is that I'll get everything down to 6-12 inches on my property, but since I can't prune what's on your property, you might want to look for branches that Z've cut higher than that so you can prune them down to 6 inches on your side yourself. Thanks, Troy -----Original Message----- From: seabolt1800@mchsi.com ' Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:05 AM To: Troy Ehlers Subject: Re: Troy, As you may recall, a few years aqo i reset the brick line between our lawns approximately 2 to 3 inches in my direction so that the bricks were not directly on the line but on my property by 2 to 3 inches. At that time you asked me what I was doing and I gave you that explanation. So, I believe that when I run the trimmer on the top of the bricks that I am trimming my lawn on both sides of the bricks. I've never had a survey done, but this is my impression. If this is that im�portant to you, feel free to hane survey done at your expense and prove that I'm wrong. I'll move the bricks again. If at the end of the line, beyond the bricks, I trimmed too far over, please accept my humble apology. It won't happen again. Please know that in the years you have lived next door to us, I can say that I have never intentionally done anythinq to annoy you or damage your property. I(eep in mind, you on the other hand were unable to deny doinq the damage done to our ' property in the attaChed picture. My goal has always been to get along with my neighbors. You sure seem to go out of your way to make that difficult. Doug https://mail.mchsi.com/zimbra/h/search?su=1&si=11&so=50&sc... 9/28/2013 , �Limbra: Re: Re: Yage 3 of 3 ; �� ----- Original Message ----- From: Troy Ehlers <troy@troyehlers.com> To: seabolt1800@mchsi.com Sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:52:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Doug, I'd like to politely ask that you refrain from trimming, spraying, pruning, or in any other way interfering with any plants or grass on my property. I hope you can find some way to enjoy your own property without encroaching on mine. 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