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From:Steve Gerber[mailto:sw�.�erber@�mail.coml <br /> Sent:Tuesday, February 13,201811:38 AM <br /> To:Christine Mattson<CMattson@ci.orono.mn.us> <br /> Cc:Jeremy Barnhart<jbarnhart@ci.orono.mn.us>; Richard Crosby<rcrosbv@ci.orono.mn.us>; Denny Walsh <br /> <dwalsh2@ci.orono.mn.us> <br /> Subject: Re: 30 Orono Orchard Road N/permit#2016-00950 <br /> Hi Christine, <br /> I was quite surprised and confused by your recent email. In your email you said, "When the weather permits (after <br /> the snow melts) an inspector will visit the site to confirm the survey accurately depicts the conditions on the ground <br /> and that any disturbed areas have been established with vegetation." <br /> We talked last fall and you said you needed an as-built to verify what I understood was needed to complete the <br /> process and get my deposit back. Nothing was mentioned about an additional inspection of the property. If so, can <br /> you tell me why you did not have this inspection done before the snow was here? I was led to believe that the as- <br /> built was the last step. I paid a licensed professional to accuratQly depict the cq�ditions.�ow is it that I was _ <br /> required to have this done if it is not valid? U/� ���� vP��� 7 �j✓�w��` � ��t a�vr/afro-�+ <br /> Bear with me as I recap the arduous process I was required to go through and how I feel I was taken advantage of: <br /> 1. I applied for a simple permit to add a 26x30 detached garage on our three acre parcel. I provided a survey that <br /> demonstrated our entire property and the footprint of the proposed garage. � <br /> 2. I was told the survey was not good enough. Plus I was also told I needed to provide a plan for an altemate septic <br /> system. Given the circumstances, three acres, plenty of land, I asked why this was necessary. I was told everyone <br /> has to do it. ��pl, �'Po� J��rPc� �,�� -��p���l�c C�,��'S � H4�- �J� �ary� �".� 4��°�. �a��,,�y��'�S <br /> I'd like to challenge the city to consider each circumstance and only add these requirements if they make sense.�n <br /> my situation, it required a delay and a $750 additional expense. I think it's common knowledge that 90+ percent of <br /> failed septic systems including drain fields are repaired not abandoned. Plus with as much land as I have, if the . <br /> need ever does arise, this alternate site could have been dealt with at that time. Again, can the city implement some <br /> common sense into its requirements rather than blanket requirements? � �°��"3 <br /> 3. After getting the alternative septic system plan and permit application submitted, it took mont for me to get the <br /> approved permit. I understand the plan reviewer was on vacation for a week, but not multip eeks for your <br /> department to accept the plan. If you recall, after several unreturned emails, I finally came into city hall and told the <br /> ladies at the desk I was there to get my permit and that I would wait until it was completed. I was told someone <br /> would come out and talk to me. Unfortunately, there was a lack of courage by your department because after 15 <br /> minutes the ladies at the desk brought everything to me without explanation and without a visit from you. I signed <br /> the paperwork and on it, it said I would provide an as-built when the job was completed- per your request. I did not <br /> agree with this request but I signed it anyway because I did not have a choice. I was behind on my project starting, it <br /> was fall and I had work obligations that required me to leave town for an extended period. Shame on me for <br /> not arguing that my survey with the"penciled in"detached garage was enough. I just could not afford any more time <br /> fighting city hall. <br /> 4. After my final inspection, I came back to city hall and asked for my deposit. I received a phone call from you <br /> asking for the as-built. As we discussed, I had provided a survey and didn't know what else the as-built would <br /> provide. I was told my survey only had a hand drawn location of the garage on it. My response was why couldn't the <br /> city inspector who did the final inspection simply verify that the drawing location was correct. You reminded me I <br /> agreed to an as-built. So I acquiesced at the cost of another$566 expense for me. <br /> 5. Imagine my surprise when I get your recent email telling me that there is another hoop I have to jump through <br /> (another inspection). Based on this new additional requirement, the as-built drawing was a complete waste of' <br /> money and time (two months). Once again, where is the common sense?Why the change of requirements?Why do <br /> you not honor a certified surveyors document if you require it? <br /> I am requesting an immediate return of my deposit money. No further property inspections are appropriate. No one <br /> looked at the site before I put up the garage, how can anyone now determine the condition of the site?The <br /> inspection will be completely arbitrary. And forgive me for being skeptical, but now I am expecting the worst, I am <br /> expecting another delay/requirement to be asked of ine (after you send someone out in April/May. I am expecting no <br /> one will come until I remind you. And I am expecting that this process will cost me additional money. I shouldn't <br /> have to remind you that the deposit is my money, not the city's. <br /> I am requesting an explanation why a common sense review of a project cannot be done instead of enforcing <br /> blanket requirements on all projects regardless of the size and scope of the project. <br /> z <br />
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