09-05-2017 Park Commission Minutes

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MINUTES OF THE ORONO PARK COMMISSION MEETING Tuesday, September 5,2017 6:30 o'clock p.m. Palmer stated he has lived here 19 years and that there was a little gravel road down there. Palmer indicated he uses that area to go swimming and that his dog and the Brady's dog get along and they play together down there. Palmer stated he believes the Bradys were the ones who sodded it over and started removing the trees. The police got involved at one point because the Bradys started to place their boat lift on the access, which forced some of the neighbors to go onto Brady's land or the land to the left with their snowmobiles. In addition,there was a big garden there and they did not want people driving over that. As a result, people were going over onto the Brady side of the 30-foot access. Palmer stated the neighbors did not have a choice since he had placed his boat lift on the access point and that the police informed the Bradys that they had to remove it or allow people to go over their land. In addition,there was no parking signage that was erected at one time. Palmer noted the Bradys knew when they bought the house that there would be a small amount of traffic going down there but since that time they have made it inconvenient for the neighbors to use. Natalye Chernerskaya, 2490 Casco Point Road, stated she has lived here since 2007, and that it is such a nice access to the lake. Chernerskaya stated they now have two kayaks and two paddle boats and use the access quite regularly. Chernerskaya indicated she does more paddle boating than kayaking since she can carry the paddle board down three houses and go down to the dock. Chernerskaya commented it is a great access for the neighborhood and that she has never had any problems with the Bradys. Chernerskaya noted there was a gravel road down there at one point and now it is grass. Chernerskaya stated it looks nicer but that in her view there should be some type of marking of the property lines. Peter Bluth, 2413 Carman Street, stated he attended a meeting in approximately 2014 when the City decided to pull the docks from the beaches. The City at that time also wanted to pull this dock and the neighbors showed up for that meeting. Bluth noted Carman Street was the only street that had representatives at that meeting and that they were able to convince the City to leave the dock as a day dock for boating and fishing. Bluth stated the nature of the Bradys' complaint is not valid. Mark Palmer, 2450 Carman Street, stated it is his understanding it is supposed to be a day dock and that he has never heard of the five minute limit. Palmer indicated he understood there was no overnight parking. Palmer stated he also is not sure if it is the City or who it is but the access point gets plowed up with snow several feet high in the front, which means the snowmobilers have to trespass to get around it. Michael Malik, 2469 Carman Street, stated the gravel road on the public access was actually part of a driveway for a tuck-under garage. Malik stated when the City would do its snowplowing, they would go eastbound on Frederick and stop and then they would go around the street and come down Carman. The snow would then get pushed down towards the lake. As it relates to the parking, there would occasionally be a car there but no one ever complained. Malik stated two cars cannot park next to each other on Carman Street or they would be completely blocking the street. Malik stated what he heard was when the Bradys had the house redone, part of the condition was that they had to sod the access point and take care of it because their house was too close to the public access. Malik stated he has had his issues with Tim Brady but the idea of having the dock taken out really ticks him off. Page 5 of 14