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CITY OF ORONO <br /> PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING <br /> Monday,May 15,2017 <br /> 6:30 o'clock p.m. <br /> Schoenzeit commented he is the last one to say that the City should make someone spend money, but this <br /> particular activity is at an intensity level that requires engineering. Schoenzeit stated he cannot make a <br /> recommendation for them to go forward with it since it is against Staff's recommendations. <br /> Leskinen stated if they can find an engineer that will sign off on the plans as proposed, then that is one <br /> thing, but that she is not comfortable with it. <br /> Olson stated he is struggling with it since the property owner did not cause this problem. Olson stated he <br /> does not doubt the capability of the team but questioned whether the City is setting up a level of <br /> expectation that other applicants will also not require engineering. <br /> Schwingler noted it would be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. <br /> Thiesse questioned whether the future owner also has an expectation that it will hold. <br /> Schoenzeit stated the liability probably comes with a future property owner. <br /> Curtis noted conditional use permits are recorded against the title of the property so they would be <br /> accessible to a future owner. <br /> Thiesse stated in his mind it is more than a landscaping project and is remediation. <br /> Schwingler stated he is okay with it without the engineer signoff. Schwingler commented it is a tough <br /> case and that the property owners are trying to do the right thing. Schwingler stated he understands the <br /> importance of an engineer signoff, but instead of allowing the property owners to improve what exists,the <br /> City is now penalizing them and requiring them to get an engineer approval. Schwingler commented <br /> sometimes it comes down to a practicality. <br /> Schoenzeit commented he knows enough about engineering that he cannot say yes to this. <br /> Anderson stated they do have a slope stability analysis done. Anderson stated clay is amazingly structural <br /> and that the issue is that the filtration that has happened has to be removed. <br /> Schoenzeit asked if there is any hydraulic pressure coming from behind the house. <br /> Anderson indicated there is not and that they are not changing the existing drainage patterns. Anderson <br /> stated they could have an engineer look at the piping,the sizing, and the water volume and include that in <br /> their information. Anderson stated that way they will know it will handle the water volume. Anderson <br /> indicated they are just trying to stabilize the slope and not impede on the neighbors. <br /> Schoenzeit stated that might be an opportunity to get another opinion and another set of eyes to look at it, <br /> which would up the confidence. <br /> Leskinen stated regardless of what the Planning Commission recommends, they can still argue their case <br /> before the City Council. <br /> Thiesse indicated he would be okay with sending this forward to the City Council. <br /> Page 18 of 23 <br />