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CITY OF ORONO <br /> PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING <br /> Monday,May 15,2017 <br /> 6:30 o'clock p.m. <br /> Thiesse noted there are engineered options that will allow them to go to a 1:1 slope without any hard <br /> surface on the front. Thiesse commented this is a difficult situation but the City cannot just allow <br /> something to be done without a certified engineer signing off on it. Thiesse stated he understand Mr. <br /> Anderson has experience and is good at what he does,but that he cannot in good conscious approve it. <br /> Anderson commented the property owner should be able to landscape it. <br /> Thiesse noted the Planning Commission is just a recommending body. <br /> Schoenzeit stated he would not make the recommendation at the Planning Commission level and that <br /> perhaps the City Council would be willing to allow it. <br /> Roger Frommelt stated a person can go all the way around the lake and find five similar situations so in <br /> his view they will not be setting a precedent. Frommelt stated if they want things to look natural,that is <br /> what nature did to the slope. Frommelt stated in his view they can find a reasonable economic solution <br /> and that the proposed solution is better than what it is now and better than what it was before. <br /> Patty Baily noted her husband is an engineer and that his company has built a number of things all over <br /> the state of Minnesota and are used to the soils in this area. Bailey commented they are willing to live <br /> there with that slope with full confidence that it will be strong enough. <br /> Bailey stated she would love it if the Planning Commission would come see it. Bailey stated the situation <br /> in her view is very dangerous and that she worries every time someone is in the back yard. <br /> Schwingler stated he agrees with the homeowner. Schwingler stated with regards to setting a precedent, <br /> in his view it is landscaping and not structural. <br /> Thiesse stated the unfortunate part is that the Baileys have had several engineers out to the property and <br /> they have all proposed things that they do not want to do. Thiesse stated it may hold up but then again it <br /> might not. <br /> Leskinen asked how it would impact the City if it doesn't. <br /> Thiesse commented if it fails, the slope would be back in the lake. <br /> John Baily noted this is a residence and a lakeshore. Bailey pointed out there are still portions of the <br /> lakeshore that remain so they know it will hold. Bailey stated he wants to restore what washed out and <br /> that what they are proposing will make it as good or better than what held. Bailey stated this is a practical <br /> solution and it does not require an engineered solution like a road. Bailey reiterated it will be better than <br /> the adjoining ground and that it is not rocket science. Bailey stated if they look at it from a practical <br /> standpoint,they can see how this can be repaired rather than cutting everything back to make sure it <br /> meets engineering requirements. <br /> Thiesse noted they just required an engineering solution of a family on the north side of Long Lake. <br /> Schoenzeit stated as far as the Planning Commission is concerned,they cannot recommend a non- <br /> traditional solution. <br /> Page 16 of 23 <br />