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MINUTES OF THE <br /> ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING <br /> Monday,October 19,2009 <br /> 6:30 o'clock p.m. <br /> #09-3431 WAGENER PROPERTIES,CONTINUED <br /> Curtis suggested that the neighbors could meet with the City Engineer on what is being proposed for the <br /> property and possibly review topographical information on the adjoining properties to see how it will <br /> impact their lots. <br /> Johnson stated as it relates to the contact with the neighbors,he was unaware that they had attempted to <br /> contact him and he apologizes for that. The intention of the property owner was to get the process started <br /> shortly after purchasing the property but that a boundary dispute did arise and the property owners have <br /> been dealing with that. They are currently in the process of fine tuning the details of an agreement,which <br /> relates primarily to the lakeshore by the Mandel home, and they are not proposing any fill in that area. <br /> Johnson stated there currently are erosion issues and ponding water which needs to be addressed. The <br /> appearance of the fill is designed to continue the current look of the front of the property. The haul road <br /> w.ill be over the Wagener's existing property and not the common driveway. Before the Munsons were <br /> issued their permit to construct a home and bring in the fill over the North Shore Drive access, a <br /> maintenance agreement was required and was executed by the neighbors. T'here is a common driveway <br /> access easement out to North Shore and that the agreement requires that whoever damages the driveway <br /> must repair it. They are planning on utilizing the Bohns Point access, so that should not be an issue. <br /> Johnson stated the Mandel's driveway, as you enter from North Shore, does utilize a small corner to turn <br /> vehicles around,which is not an issue tonight. The fence is not a part of the application tonight. As <br /> outlined in the City Engineer's report,the Wagener property,which is the low property in the <br /> neighborhood,will continue to accept drainage from all adjoining property owners and convey it to the <br /> lake, not the neighboring properties. They will be using the Wagener property for the haul road. The <br /> City Engineer has requested that they identify best practices as part of their application,which has been <br /> submitted. Erosion control measures have also passed the City Engineer's inspection. <br /> Catherine Russin pointed out the location of their properly in comparison to the Wagener property. <br /> Currently there is a gully on the Wagener property and Russin asked what will happen with that gully and <br /> whether the dirt would be brought level with their property. <br /> Johnson indicated there will be a berm and a drainage swale created,which will handle the runofF from <br /> the Russin property down to the lake. <br /> Catherine Russin pointed out they have a number of plantings in that area and asked whether any work <br /> will be done on their property. <br /> Schoenzeit stated the applicant's plan does show the proposed grading and drainage and that drainage <br /> does not appear to be an issue for the Russin's property. <br /> Mike Russin asked how much dirt is being added next to the property line. <br /> Kang stated it appears that there needs to be better communication with the neighbors and that perhaps <br /> this application should be tabled. <br /> Berg asked whether this is the same plan that was approved previously. <br /> Page <br /> 13 <br />
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