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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br />Monday, July 14, 2008 <br />7:00 o’clock a.m. <br />______________________________________________________________________________ <br />(10. CITY OF ORONO CODE AMENDMENT – REVISION OF CHAPTER 86 RELATING TO <br />BUILDING PERMIT SURVEYS, Continued) <br /> <br />Rahn stated in his opinion this ordinance is what the City has been looking for as it concerns <br />documentation on applications and that it really is just requiring verification of the survey rather than a <br />complete new survey. <br /> <br />Turner stated Staff expects the surveyor to double check the setbacks and the top of the block, and then <br />update the survey with that information. <br /> <br />Murphy asked how the City could ensure that residents are not hit with the costs for a full survey two or <br />three times. <br /> <br />Rahn stated in his opinion if the setbacks and top of the block numbers comply, the surveyor could simply <br />submit a letter stating that fact. <br /> <br />Turner stated given today’s technology, it is easier to update a survey rather than to do a complete new <br />survey and that there would be a revision date included on the survey. <br /> <br />Bremer stated there should be an option for the surveyor to submit an updated survey or a letter. <br /> <br />Kellogg stated there should be an option but that in his opinion the letter should be signed by a registered <br />land surveyor. <br /> <br />Bremer asked if other cities require this many surveys. <br /> <br />Kellogg indicated they do. Kellogg explained that the first survey would be a comprehensive survey of <br />the lot, which would include the topography of the lot and would constitute the majority of the expense. <br />The second time a surveyor would need to visit the site would be to shoot the setbacks, the elevation of <br />the top of the block and the grading. The third survey would show the final grading and drainage. <br />Kellogg indicated the final grading never exactly matches what was approved and that the third survey <br />would basically only show the area that was disturbed. <br /> <br />Murphy stated he is cognizant of the economy and the impact the additional costs could have on the <br />residents and that he would like it to be clear up front to the residents what is involved so they do not <br />incur any unnecessary costs. <br /> <br />Bremer asked whether this ordinance would apply to every building permit. <br /> <br />Turner stated the ordinance would apply to new houses and additions and that there is an exemption for <br />existing detached structures. Turner noted in a number of cases the foundation survey would be waived if <br />they are adding on to the structure. <br /> <br />Rahn recommended the language in B1, which states that every application for a building permit shall be <br />accompanied by, be revised to read, any application that expands the footprint of the structure or adds <br />structural coverage shall be accompanied by. <br /> <br />Turner concurred the language suggested by Rahn should be added in and that the ordinance should <br />probably be tabled to allow Staff to make the appropriate changes. <br /> <br />PAGE 7 of 11 <br />Item #02 - CC Agenda - 07/28/08 <br />Approval of Council Minutes 07/14/08 [Page 7 of 11]