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MINUTES OF THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:00 o’clock p.m. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Page 9 of 36 (7. #13-3631 LANDSOURCE, LLC (TODD HOLMERS), 3700 NORTHERN AVENUE, SUBDIVISION – PRELIMINARY PLAT – PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, Continued) Gaffron noted the Planning Commission is a recommending body and that the City Council does not need to follow their direction. Gaffron stated in his view it would be good if there was a consensus reached between the Planning Commission and City Council. Stickney noted Option 1 has less hardcover than Option 2. Stickney stated Staff has a number of examples that have worked in the City that are similar to this proposal. Stickney stated they are keeping the lots away from anyone who has a visible objection to the development and that in his view the discussion at the Planning Commission about the smiley face option was very good. Stickney stated the discussion tonight is somewhat of a shock. McMillan stated the City Council could table it and he could go back to the property owner and discuss the concerns that have been raised tonight Stickney stated in his view the plan with six lots is a great plan. Anderson moved, Bremer seconded, Application No. 13-3631, Landsource, LLC (Todd Holmers), 3700 Northern Avenue, to direct Staff to draft a resolution for preliminary plat approval subject to Staff recommendations. Printup stated the question he has is whether the idea of it being reduced to four or five lots has been discussed. Gaffron indicated it has not. Printup asked whether the concept of fewer lots should be considered by the Planning Commission. McMillan stated in her view it does not need to be sent back to the Planning Commission and that the City Council can review it. McMillan opened the meeting up to public comment at 7:50 p.m. Ralph Kempf, 3675 Togo Road, stated approximately 15 people were in attendance at the first meeting discussing this application. Kempf stated that this is a very special area. There is a wetland that covers the entire center of the property and it is the western side of the property that drains the entire area between Sunset and Shadywood, down to the Dakota Trail, and then all the way over to Lake Minnetonka and Lord Fletchers. Kempf noted all of the water in that drainage area drains down to Lake Minnetonka. Kempf stated the first proposal had driveways running all the way to the back of the site. When it rains, the runoff flows to the east and up to Lake Minnetonka. The first proposal had driveways going back to the rear portion of the site, which would result in all of the drainage going into culverts. Kempf stated in his view it makes more sense for the water to naturally filter and cleanse. There was also hardcover almost all the way around the pond. Kempf indicated the neighborhood was thrilled to see the houses pulled back to Northern Avenue. Item #02 - CC Agenda - 11/25/2013 Approval of Council Minutes 11/12/2013 [Page 9 of 36]