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MINUTES OF THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:00 o’clock p.m. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Page 7 of 36 (7. #13-3631 LANDSOURCE, LLC (TODD HOLMERS), 3700 NORTHERN AVENUE, SUBDIVISION – PRELIMINARY PLAT – PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, Continued) Stickney stated Mark Gronberg created the plan. McMillan asked if there would need to be a homeowners association for the outlot. Levang stated to her understanding it is an option and that it could either be set up that each individual owner owns a portion of it or it could be a common area. Gaffron stated there will be maintenance issues with the outlot, and that without a homeowners association of some sort, there will be a question about ownership. Gaffron stated he does not see a simple way to have the outlot without it being owned by the group as a whole. Printup asked if Staff knows how many homeowners associations there are in the City. Gaffron stated the City does not keep track of individual homeowner associations but that they range from formal to informal. Gaffron indicated there are probably around 60 homeowners associations and that they correlate with the private roads. Levang asked how the trail was developed. Stickney stated that came about as a result of the meeting and his prior development experience. Levang stated she is not in favor of the trail. Gaffron stated in order for some of the lots to gain access to the back part of their property, it would be necessary for there to be a path. Gaffron stated it is likely the trail would need to be within the buffer, which would likely not be approved by the Watershed District. McMillan stated she has a difficult time creating more than four lots and that one of the purposes of cluster development is to preserve open spaces. McMillan stated the issue with clustering on this lot is that the southern portion of the site is maxed out. Stickney commented they could also construct a road back there which would not be ideal. Levang noted this is a piece of land that has not been developed previously. Stickney stated they are not proposing anything out of the ordinary as it relates to lot sizes. McMillan stated a lot of the lots around Lake Minnetonka were platted prior to the adoption of many of the City’s regulations. McMillan stated this is an opportunity to develop this piece of land to code and that there has to be some very strong reasons to cluster and add more density to this area. McMillan noted the City did approve cluster development at Creekside due to the topography. McMillan stated while this property does have a wetland, development is not overly difficult as it relates to the topography. Item #02 - CC Agenda - 11/25/2013 Approval of Council Minutes 11/12/2013 [Page 7 of 36]