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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY PLANNING COMMISSION <br />Monday, October 21, 2013 <br />6:30 o’clock p.m. <br />_____________________________________________________________________________________ <br />  <br />Page 8 of 42  <br />  <br />Landgraver commented that has been an area of focus in the past. <br /> <br />Leskinen noted she was not at the meeting the last time this application was discussed and that she does <br />not want to be redundant. Leskinen stated in her view the location of the proposed use and the proposed <br />conditions under which it will be operated or maintained is not detrimental to the public health and safety. <br /> <br />Landgraver asked if the saloon needs to be closed by 1:00. <br /> <br />Gaffron indicated that is correct <br /> <br />Landgraver asked when the music is supposed to stop. <br /> <br />Gaffron stated the music stops at 12:30. <br /> <br />Landgraver stated one of the issues the Planning Commission should consider is how late the patio should <br />be open. <br /> <br />Schoenzeit stated there should not be live music out on the patio. <br /> <br />McGrann stated if there is going to be more people outside, the City needs to be cognizant of the <br />neighbors but noted that there are already smokers outside and that has not been a problem. McGrann <br />indicated he does not have an issue with the patio area as long as people are being respectful. McGrann <br />asked how many people would be able to be out on the patio. <br /> <br />Gaffron indicated there is space for 25 near the saloon and 30 by the restaurant. <br /> <br />McGrann stated the question to ask is whether it is appropriate to have upwards of 50 people potentially <br />at 12:00 p.m. <br /> <br />Anderst stated if there is not a patio area, they will then use the front door and stand out there. <br /> <br />Leskinen asked whether the food service would quit earlier than the bar service. <br /> <br />Anderst indicated food service stops at 10:00 during the week and on the weekends it goes until 11:00. <br /> <br />Leskinen asked whether the patio should close at the same time the food service stops. <br /> <br />Anderst commented the smokers would then stand out in front. Anderst noted the patio is hidden. <br /> <br />McGrann stated it goes towards the noise question and that perhaps patio service could be stopped at <br />11:00 for meal service and only allow cigarette smoking. <br /> <br />Anderst stated if any complaints are received, they could readjust things. <br /> <br />Leskinen asked if the Planning Commission feels the proposed use is compatible with the surrounding <br />business district and residential neighborhoods. <br /> <br />McGrann stated in his view the proposal is an improvement. <br />Item #01 - PC Agenda - 11/18/2013 <br />Approval of Planning Commission Minutes 10/21/2013 <br />[Page 8 of 42]