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MINUTES OF THE ' <br /> ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING • <br /> Monday,April 22,2013 <br /> 7:00 o'clock p.m. <br /> (S. Permit#2012-00424-JAYAND ALYSSA KANIVE, 950 WILLOW i�IEW DRIVE—APPEAL, <br /> Continued) <br /> Kanive indicated he is disappointed to see the Arrowhead delineation being referenced again. Kanive <br /> stated the Arrowhead delineation does not exist. Kanive stated they were told to obtain a wetland <br /> delineation, and since they did not know any better,they went out and contacted someone for the wetland <br /> delineation. A preliminary delineation was staked out. After that was completed, Catherine Bach walked <br /> us through the process. Kanive indicated once they understood the process,they disapproved of the <br /> wetland delineation that had been done and would have requested certain revisions be made. Since the <br /> Watershed District said they already have one that they rely on, Kanive stated they went ahead and <br /> cancelled it. The Watershed District did not approve this delineation and we, as the homeowners, do not <br /> approve it either. <br /> Kanive stated it was also a little frustrating to find out after that that the City already had a delineation <br /> when they were told they did not. Kanive indicated they spent$700 for something they did not need to <br /> do and also wasted months of time waiting for this to go through. <br /> Staff has implied that the delineation was needed to determine setbacks for the sport court. The code for <br /> Orono expressly states that no setback is required for sport court type structures. Section 78-1608(2)(a) <br /> of the code specifically states that sport court structures and in grade patios do not need to be set back <br /> from any wetland buffer. Clearly&om the location of the sport court, it was not anywhere close to the <br /> approved wetland buffer that the Watershed District approved in 1999. <br /> Kanive stated there is an incorrect distinction between disturbance and grading. You can disturb 5,000 <br /> square feet but that does not mean that you have graded it. You can move dirt, and then if you are not <br /> changing the gade,that does not count. There is over 12 cubic feet of what Staff is calling a disturbance, <br /> which is not grading and should not be included in the 50 cubic yard calculation. There was also a hint <br /> that there would be some cumulative effect over time and that that 12 cubic yards should not count. All <br /> of the houses in the neighborhood are graded since this was originally a flat wetland marsh. The <br /> developer took out an unnatural earthen berm or part of a turn and returned the grade of the property back <br /> to the original state rather than change the grading itself. Kanive stated by taking out that manmade hill, <br /> he would contend whether they hit the 50 cubic yards since they were returning the grade to its natural <br /> state and not performing new grading that adversely affects the wetland. <br /> As it relates to the future nonconformity, if Staff's logic is followed about preventing future <br /> nonconformities,the entire neighborhood and future houses would be a future nonconformity. The only <br /> test for a wetland is if vegetation exists and the soil is wet. This is a low lying neighborhood in general, <br /> so to continue to go back, according to the definitions of what is a wetland,you would just roll back and <br /> eventually the neighborhood is a future nonconformity. <br /> As it relates to the fire pit and patio,which are not part of this application,Kanive indicated they did ask <br /> the City if permits were required for both of those projects and were told none were required. As a matter <br /> of record, based on the verbal approval from the person in the City, Kanive stated he considers these <br /> structures approved by the City and he is not going to debate it further tonight. Kanive indicated the <br /> Watershed District knows that the back of the fire pit is in the buffer zone for the original buffer and they <br /> are more than willing to work with us on a resolution,which he has no problem with. <br /> Page 8 of 18 <br />
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