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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br />Monday, September 12, 2011 <br />7:00 o'clock p.m. <br />(11. OLD CRYSTAL BAYROAD UPDATED COST ESTIMATES, Continued) <br />McMillan commented she does not have the CIP with her tonight but that there has been some discussion <br />about some work on the water tower and an additional well near city hall. <br />Franchot stated the Council was told that Old Crystal Bay Road was the most urgent. <br />Amundsen stated he highlighted the portion of the road that would be reconstructed on the northern end. <br />The northern most box does not affect any utilities. There is a small portion of the sewer and water that <br />would need to be replaced and could be replaced in conjunction with the road reconstruction. Amundsen <br />indicated he is in agreement from a logistics standpoint that this would decrease the amount of work that <br />needs to be done in one summer and could possibly work with the school's schedule better. <br />Rahn noted there is only one quarter of the road that does not have water and sewer. Rahn stated in his <br />view the City will gain from the mill and overlay since they could mill and overlay the road 11 and a half <br />times for the price that it would cost to reconstruct it. Rahn noted a reconstructed road is usually good for <br />40 years and that a mill and overlay would typically last five years. The City would have 55 years of road <br />by just mill and overlaying it every five years. Rahn commented he is not sure why the City would <br />replace infrastructure that shows no signs of disrepair and spend $1.7 million dollars. . Rahn noted the <br />City has not had to do any work to those pipes and that they do not need to be resized. <br />McMillan commented her concern was whether the mill and overlay would last. McMillan stated the <br />northern section of the road appears to be in pretty bad shape and asked what the soil borings <br />demonstrated on the sub base. ° <br />Amundsen stated there is quite a bit of information that is available on the sub base in that area. <br />Rahn stated the worst number is 69 percent of the $1.74 million that is required for a brand new 7 -ton <br />road. Rahn commented he would like to do a mill and overlay and see what the life expectancy would be. <br />Printup indicated he is in agreement with the mill and overlay. <br />Franchot asked what the cost estimate was to complete Option A with turn lanes. Franchot stated in his <br />view the cost to do the mill and overlay is $150,000 more expensive than any plan the City had before <br />since this would be the City's money and not MSA money. Franchot noted the mill and overlay would do <br />zero to address the traffic issues, which should still be taken into consideration. <br />Amundsen indicated it would be approximately $2.5 million for Option A. The majority of the cost is <br />$360,000 for storm sewer improvements. The $1.7 million also includes storm sewer. <br />Rahn stated he is not against looking at turn lanes when that time comes. <br />McMillan stated if the northern half is reconstructed, the City and school could possibly partner on <br />constructing a right turn into the middle school, which would solve some of the traffic problems. <br />McMillan stated she would like to get a more substantial sub base underneath the road at some point and <br />• that this would be a way to recoup some of the engineering costs already incurred. McMillan suggested <br />they present the project to MSA that we are going to reconstruct the northern end and wait on the <br />southern end and ask whether the mill and overlay could be reimbursed with state aid dollars. <br />Page 25 of 28 <br />
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