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MINUTES OF THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Monday, July 11, 2016 7:00 o'clock p.m. 12. #16-3822 LAKEWEST, LLC, 3245 WAYZATA BOULEVARD WEST, PRELIMINARY PLAT REVIEW (continued) Gaffron stated at.the end of the cul-de-sac on Kelly Parkway, east of the main access to Stone Bay, the emergency access point consists of a grassy area with a grid underneath that allows fire trucks to drive over. Gaffron stated it would be possible to do something similar in this situation and that there would not be a need to erect posts or a barricade in that area. Walsh asked what would happen if something like that is not there and the fire chief says that is not going to work. Gaffron stated if there is no emergency access, he is not sure what the answer would be. Gaffron stated if Hennepin County is only going to allow the one access point, if something happens and those people cannot get out, they cannot get out, and that he does not know what the answer is. Gaffron stated it appears the County will not allow a second access until that other area is developed. The proposed cul- de-sac 3 and 2 road is between 600 to 800 in length. Gaffron noted the Stone Bay development has long cul-de-sacs with loops and that there are other long cul-de-sacs in the City where the same issue could happen. Gaffron noted this development will also have city sewer and water and that there will be fire hydrants located throughout the development. Printup asked whether the safety access, if built, could ever be turned into a permanent access. Gaffron stated it is not impossible but that a variety of changes might need to be done to address sightline issues. McMillan commented the residents that live near there would also likely not want the road to become a through road. McMillan asked what Outlot C is for. Gaffron stated one of the RPLJD requirements is that the developer donate 10 percent of its land area as a private park, which is what Outlot C is for. The developer will also be providing a trail that goes around the perimeter of the landfill on the high land. The Planning Commission and Park Commission felt that the trail was more than adequate and did not recommend a land donation in place of a park dedication fee. Gaffron stated if the City Council is comfortable with the .782 floor area ratio on average, that would be fine and that he would prefer not to have to determine the FAR for each individual lot. Walsh commented he is comfortable with the average. McMillan asked if the developer is held to a certain design. Gaffron stated he has a bit of a concern that there will be multiple builders. Gaffron stated if they get to the point where there are builders who want to do something different than the proposed plan, there will likely be issues. Gaffron stated he would like to avoid what happened with Stone Bay and the necessity of re-educating the different builders on what is required and critical. Page 14 of 25